News from 8th of july! [Archive] - Alizée America Forum

RadioactiveMan

07-08-2006, 09:28 PM

Though I'm certainly no expert either, but what I gathered from the first part was that a small note from Alizée confirms that she has left Mylene Farmer and Polydor. Then again, I don't trust my knowledge of French farther than I can throw it (I'm not sure how far I can throw it. That's why I'm not sure if I interpreted it correctly :) ). Especially since it could easily explain that this is not the case in any of the parts that I'm not able to read.

trofast

07-08-2006, 09:42 PM

Hmm, so now there's now way of contacting her? Hehe, but I can't say that I've been that much in contact with her before this "breakup" either. :p

Ben

07-09-2006, 12:54 AM

The news reads:

A small note about Alizée and the third album can be found in the new Platine [a French magazine]:

Scoop! It's confirmed! Alizée has left Mylene Farmer and with her the Polydor record label. On the other hand, contrary to what was annoucned a few months ago, in the end she will not work with Nicola Sirkis (Indochine). The father of her child, Jeremy Chatelain, is reported to write the music for her new album, with Jean Fauque (Bashung, Romane Serda, Jeremy Chatelain) providing the lyrics for six or seven songs. The first single will be released in September, and the album at the end of the year. It would seem that for Universal, Jeremy's last album is already dead and buried.

The second news item is about the completion of a project by Homer and the Spanish members of alizee-forum.com, started in October 2003, to write a 1,000 verse poem for Alizée!

The news from yesterday is about a small TV report with much the same information as the Platine article.

Gatchaman

07-09-2006, 05:27 AM

Wow, her first single in September! Hope it's true. I also hope that the music doesn't suck due to the fact that her husband Jeremy is writing most of her songs.

Jeremy writing her songs worries me a bit. :(

cybersoil

07-09-2006, 06:17 AM

Jeremy writing her songs worries me a bit. :(

Worries me a lot!:eek:

Shep

07-09-2006, 06:24 AM

Worries me a lot!:eek:

mmhmm.

I hope it will be as good as she has been in the past.

cybersoil

07-09-2006, 06:40 AM

Different team.... Mylene (Lyrics) / Laurent (Melody) / Alizee (The Star) were the perfect team. Alizee is still the perfect star, but with 2/3 of a proven top-of-the-line team fired she's going to need a lot of luck.

I've heard only a few of Jeremy's songs but think they suck! I know it was probably him who convinced Alizee to do her own thing. I only hope that he writes much better songs for her than he does for himself, otherwise this will probably be Alizee's last album. I hope it's not because she's got everything a star could ever need, including talent in abundance.

-Cybersoil

Shep

07-09-2006, 06:43 AM

If it doesn't work, we can only hope Alizée will leave Jeremy (musically) and return to Mylene.

aditya8617

07-09-2006, 08:51 AM

Why leave the people who made a star out of her, she is till young. I have a feeling her husband is going to ruin this album( I hope I am wrong).

Shep

07-09-2006, 08:53 AM

I could only imagine what they would do to Alizée as a whole.

Keep her in your prayers (or thoughts, if praying isn't your thing).

mando

07-09-2006, 09:13 AM

great news in my opinion. i'm just glad she is gonna be back :)

edit: and it's so much sooner than i expected

trofast

07-09-2006, 11:25 AM

Yeah, it's great that she's coming back! :)
But, I can't help being somewhat concerned with the fact that her hubby is so much involved in her career. Ok, I don't know him, or know of him, haven't heard any of his music, etc. Hehe, but you guys seem to know, and when you're worried, I'm worried. I don't really pray that often, and I tend to think way too much. But I hope that when she comes back, it will be as herself, in an (if possible!) improved image, not the image created by Jeremy. The phrase "If it ain't broke, why try to fix it?" comes to mind.

PS: Big thanx to Snatcher42 for translating it! :)

Gatchaman

07-09-2006, 11:42 AM

This Jeremy guy seems to be a "jack of all trades" but master of none. He tries to writes music, sings, is a fashion designer, etc. He's never been really successful in anything, and now he's going to basically write songs for one of the most successful singers in recent French history.

I have a feeling that it was Jeremy who convinced Alizee to leave Mylene. You guys all saw the interviews and heard Alizee express how much she enjoyed working with Mylene, and how she hoped that they could continue to work together. All of a sudden she meets a "American Idol" type of singer at Eurobest, then quickly goes to Las Vegas to marry him. Now shes done with the team that helped make her what she is now, and puts her career and future in the hands of her young and unproven hubby.

I truly hope that the Alizee and Jeremy combo is successful. Otherwise, we can all blame him for her demise. :mad:

Anyways, I still am happy and looking forward to her return! :)

RadioactiveMan

07-09-2006, 12:33 PM

I think that the next album will be good. I listened to two of Jeremy's songs the other day and I thought that they were okay. I couldn't see the album being anything other than great. I think that if there is any change in style or sound will end up being better, not worse.

brad

07-09-2006, 04:09 PM

thanks for the translation snatcher.

personally, i wouldn't care if she sang the happy birthday song over and over again .. i just want to see her release some new stuff :)

brad

07-09-2006, 04:17 PM

I have a feeling that it was Jeremy who convinced Alizee to leave Mylene. You guys all saw the interviews and heard Alizee express how much she enjoyed working with Mylene, and how she hoped that they could continue to work together.

i think that may be part of it, but i really think that if the truth was known .. it would turn out to be as much Mylene losing interest in Alizee than the other way around. So much of what Mylene Farmer does is about 'the image' .. I wouldn't be suprised if she (Mylene) got discouraged by the fact that Alizee got married / had a child ..

I bet it was more along the lines of Alizee wanting to release new record soon, and Mylene not showing a lot of interest in any new projects (plus she is trying to release some new stuff on her own).

just my opinion though ...

Ben

07-09-2006, 04:39 PM

Why leave the people who made a star out of her, she is till young.
After the botched job of marketing the second album and concerts, I doubt any of them wanted to stay together. I don't think it was Jérémy's idea... and I have both his albums, he's not a bad songwriters. But he is still young and inexperienced in handling a big project like this, so I expect (and hope) there are a few more colaborators we haven't heard about yet.

But yeah, Jérémy can write some good songs. Here's one of my favorites, something he did for another French singer:
http://rapidshare.de/files/25394836/Jonatan_Cerrada_-_La_preuve_du_contraire_-_12_-_Ruban_Noir.mp3.html

Kamakzie

07-09-2006, 04:41 PM

Let's hope Jeremy doesn't blow this opportunity. Because if he does it could hurt his marriage as well Alizee's career. I don't understand French at all so as long as the tune is catchy everything will be okay for me.

rcs

07-09-2006, 05:35 PM

Cool anyway. I've got something to look forward to in September. Eagerly awaiting the new album at the end of the year too.

mando

07-09-2006, 05:40 PM

After the botched job of marketing the second album and concerts, I doubt any of them wanted to stay together. I don't think it was Jérémy's idea... and I have both his albums, he's not a bad songwriters. But he is still young and inexperienced in handling a big project like this, so I expect (and hope) there are a few more colaborators we haven't heard about yet.

But yeah, Jérémy can write some good songs. Here's one of my favorites, something he did for another French singer:
http://rapidshare.de/files/25394836/Jonatan_Cerrada_-_La_preuve_du_contraire_-_12_-_Ruban_Noir.mp3.html

thx for sharing. that's the first song of his that i've heard. not my style at all =/

trofast

07-09-2006, 06:19 PM

Hehe, is it just me, or do we all seem way too eager to blame her husband for... something we yet have to see? Of course, I'd kick his ass, just for being the one who has her, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, maybe they make a great team. She must see something (good) in him, cause she married him and had a child with him. Yeah yeah, I know, it hurts even just writing those words. :p But, let's all just agree on one thing: The only important thing is that she's happy! I'm not saying that I couldn't make her happier than him, hehe, but... :rolleyes:

Shep

07-09-2006, 07:05 PM

I think most of the fans want Alizée to be happy but equally they want to be happy WITH her. Jeremy just made himself a target. He's probably a great guy, Alizée sure thought enough of him.

But I think the worry the fans have over her next album are rational. We've loved her up to this point and we're nervous about the direction she'll be going next. We don't know enough about the guy to trust him to take Mylene's place.

Shep

07-09-2006, 07:22 PM

I should add, I'd like to see where she goes if she just did everything herself, writing and all and not have some one influence her.

I'm also nervous that Jeremy might take her away from the clean image I have enjoyed from her thus far.

Ben

07-09-2006, 10:36 PM

I'm also nervous that Jeremy might take her away from the clean image I have enjoyed from her thus far.
Or he could do the opposite. After all, would you want boys drooling over your wife? And remember, it was Mylene who created the Lolita image for Alizée. That was pretty risqué, and maybe Lili wasn't totally comfortable with it.

I agree with trofast that we'll just have to wait and see. :)

Andrick

07-10-2006, 12:07 AM

Yeah let the time goes on and wait what happens next, I think that Alizee, despite marring at young age was her childhood dream, doesn´t let it meddle in her career, I really hope that she could mantain that awsome team with farmer boutonant, cuz if you notice most of the music today it´s just rock and ear breakin music something that doesn´t happen with her music, as a musician I enjoy listening to alizee´s music cuz of the mix up of the instruments it´s really marvelous. Well then I´m also agree with trofast n' snatcher, let´s wait (hope it wouldnt take too long:) )

scameter

07-10-2006, 01:38 AM

It worries me too. I think she is only doing it because she is married to him. This may seem obvious, but I think it is quite unfortunate. She may admire his work, but perhaps his talents do not suit her own style. I liked the previous trio, and I can only hope that she chose Jeremy from more than the fact of her being married to him.

acer

07-10-2006, 06:53 PM

You can get some clips of jeremy's songs here
http://jeremychatelain.artistes.universalmusic.fr/

e.e...well, can't say i'm insanely impressed

JNoel1234

07-10-2006, 08:31 PM

Or he could do the opposite. After all, would you want boys drooling over your wife? And remember, it was Mylene who created the Lolita image for Alizée. That was pretty risqué, and maybe Lili wasn't totally comfortable with it.

I agree with trofast that we'll just have to wait and see. :)

I think she was quite comfortable considering that in one of her interviews, which you can see here on this site, she said that she wouldn't mind doing nude pictures or clips.

trofast

07-10-2006, 08:37 PM

I think she was quite comfortable considering that in one of her interviews, which you can see here on this site, she said that she wouldn't mind doing nude pictures or clips.

Hehe, I must have missed that part, in what interview was that?

Edit: If it's in the "48 Hueres Interview - March 30, 2003", then I know why I've missed it; Haven't even seen that interview. :p

JNoel1234

07-10-2006, 08:56 PM

brad

07-10-2006, 09:05 PM

Yea, it's in that video (48 Hueres Interview - March 30, 2003 - http://moi-alizee.us/play/?v=10 ). At 10:36 she says, "I am not against nudity in the clips or in photograhps, as long as it is not vulgar and it stays natural and pure".

I think in that particular case, she is talking about the videos she already made. Maybe 'nudity' isn't the right word for there, maybe something more like 'showing skin'. I could be wrong though.

Ben

07-10-2006, 09:08 PM

I think in that particular case, she is talking about the videos she already made. Maybe 'nudity' isn't the right word for there, maybe something more like 'showing skin'. I could be wrong though.
Or she might just be talking in general and for other people (Mylene is famous for appearing nude in her videos). I doubt Alizée herself intends to ever do it.

Besides, nudity itself isn't always the most racy thing... the meaning behind a song or image can be far more provocative (as is the case with ML).

pineapplejello

07-11-2006, 12:19 AM

Ive been following ALZIEE since day one. I smelled a RAT when this puke Jeremy got his claws into her. Leaving Mylenne and Universal are the nails in the coffin for ALIZEE. I doubt this puke Jeremy will be able to fulfull her career with his shallow songwriting. No one likes him, for one. No one likes what he's done to her, at such a young age. He's brainwashed her into doing what JEREMY wants for his little trophy.
He's no Mylenne, trust me. I can't blame Alizee totally, as at her tender age it is easy to be coaxed by a puke, offering her something different and promising her things that will never happen. In my opinion she was just too vunerable at the time and wanted a change.
You just don't leave a huge record label like UNIVERSAL and dump your mentor afer she made her career into what it is now, or was.
I have no hope for this new album or music , as long as puke Jeremy has anything to do with it.
I do feel ALIZEE will wake up someday soon, realize what she has done, and come to hers senses. Hopefully, this won't be before she has lost her entire fan base of loyal followers that would have laid down and died for her at one time.
Rich

Matrix

07-11-2006, 05:37 AM

Mylene Farmer created an image for Alizee, and I think we have seen the last of that "image". The new album will be different no doubt, including Alizee herself.

Alizee is an artist, let her fly and do what she wants to, let her explore. Every artist wants to prove they can do it themselves. We will always have Gourmandises and Mes Courants Electriques and Alizee en Concert DVD to listen to forever.

Alizee knows what she wants, and she is doing what she wants. Don't get hung up on this "image" of Alizee that Mylene Farmer created, its not the real Alizee.

Fans make that mistake all the time, confusing the "image" with the true nature of the celebrity.

cybersoil

07-11-2006, 09:13 AM

Mylene Farmer created an image for Alizee, and I think we have seen the last of that "image". The new album will be different no doubt, including Alizee herself.

Alizee knows what she wants, and she is doing what she wants. Don't get hung up on this "image" of Alizee that Mylene Farmer created, its not the real Alizee.

Fans make that mistake all the time, confusing the "image" with the true nature of the celebrity.

Don't know about you but I love the image she now has. And that's what will keep her popular.

Letting her do what she wants? Hmmm. you mean like when Ginger Spice left the spice girls? What ever happend to them after that anyway? or when Farrah Fawcett left "Charlies Angels?" What ever happened to her after that? or when Chrissy left "Three's company?" How long did that show last after that? or.... or .... life is full of crash and burn stories, although there are a few successes. But the Crash add Burns out number the successes many times over. The music industry is peppered with failures after successful groups or teams have split.

I hope that Alizee can make a change for the better but she has to realize that she was born to be a sexy popstar, not a rocker. She only 21 years old and probably just doesn't realize it yet. But I do hope that everything works out the best for her. If not, she's made a few million and can retire in comfort. We fans can always drewl over her videos where she'll never age and always be the most beautiful and sexy woman who ever lived!

-Cybersoil

mando

07-11-2006, 11:45 AM

You just don't leave a huge record label like UNIVERSAL and dump your mentor afer she made her career into what it is now, or was.
I have no hope for this new album or music , as long as puke Jeremy has anything to do with it.

Rich

i guess most of us can't help but to speculate that it's all Jeremy's fault etc. I'm not saying he had nothing to do with it but also take into consideration what someone else said: Maybe Mylene is the one who "lost interest" in Alizee.

Matrix

07-11-2006, 03:36 PM

Uh, cybersoil.. then WHY does Madonna continually change her image? Because she KNOWS that you must continually evolve to keep the fans happy, and not the least of which the actual artist wants to change too.

You think Alizee wants to keep the same image forever? No, hardly. Rather, she wants to branch out and explore other possibilities. We are human, its what we do, we constantly explore and learn.

Alizee is aging too, she is not staying forever a LOLITA, as we age we learn more about the world around us and we form our own opinions. She is an artist and she is artistically expressing herself and we shall see that in her next album.. i can't wait

Alizee you have given us two beautiful extraordinary albums. We are faithful and look forward to your next adventure! :)

cybersoil

07-11-2006, 04:02 PM

I talked about Madonna and her changes back in an earlier posting.

Although Madonna has changed her look over the years, her music has pretty much stayed the same. Alizee would shift radically from her beautiful pop to probably some sucky rock.

Of course, she can't remain the Lolita forever, but she only 21 years old right now so she's got a few good years left. I just want her to remain sexy, the image that everyone likes. Seeing her in some slobbingly dressed outfit beltching out some cacophony is not how I see her. But it's her choice! If she needs to do this to be happy then so be it.

Except for 2 songs that she sang, "Veni, Vidi, Vici" and another one, I loved, not just liked, all of her songs. I just hope that her new hubby songwriter is up to par. Let's all wish her luck. But luck really has nothing to do with it.

-Cybersoil

C-4

07-12-2006, 01:23 PM

Much of what has been speculated in this thread is interesting to ponder.
My thoughts are that if the album does not do well, she may go in a different direction, or maybe back towards the first two albums in style.

Not everything Madonna has done has been a wild success either. Everyone has peaks and valleys in their career.

Look at the Rolling Stones. They just keep going and going. I would buy any Alizee album that she came out with just to show support for her. I am not a fair-weather fan who might drop her just because an album was not totally up to my personal expectations. Sure I might be disappointed, but by supporting her, there is always the chance that the next album would be more in line with my liking. If I stopped supporting her work, and if enough people also felt that way, she might not decide to do another album, then we all lose her.

Whether Jeremy is right, wrong, involved, not as involved as we are speculating, whatever, I am still excited to hear the next album and continue my support for her. If the next album is not so good, she will realize this, I am sure and change her direction. But at least she is giving her husband a chance. If he screws up, Alizee is not so dumb as to continue allowing a failing team to produce for her, I am sure.