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alizeebrother
07-23-2006, 08:02 AM
IF alizee's age in 30, what will she do? still she will sing ?

aditya8617
07-23-2006, 10:16 AM
Let's hope she still sings at 30! But she might choose to concentrate on Anny-Lee. whatever choice hse makes we woold have to accept it!

Matrix
07-23-2006, 05:44 PM
I think by age 30.. lemme see.. i think Alizee will have had three children by then, have made 5 albums total including a christmas album, and....

she will be prime minister of France, Chirac make room for Alizee! :p

Ben
07-23-2006, 05:52 PM
have made 5 albums total including a christmas album, and...
At the rate of one album every three years, that's actually probably true... though she'd have some explaining to do to her husband about an x-mas album (he's Jewish). :eek:

Pirate515
07-23-2006, 09:29 PM
...though she'd have some explaining to do to her husband about an x-mas album (he's Jewish). :eek:Technically, Jeremy is half-Jewish, but going by Jewish traditions/religion, he can be considered fully Jewish (since his mom was a Jew).

Alizee may also be partly Jewish as well. Thanks to the HQ version of her JPVA performance @ Tour De France, I've noticed that she was wearing this tiny band around her arm, which many Jews wear to keep evil spirits away. Also, Alizee (like most of Corsicans) is extremely superstitious, so that could be another explanation of this arm band. Also, I'm not sure if this video was shot before or after Alizee met Jeremy, if it is the later, then the arm band could also be his influence.

But in any case, if Alizee and Jeremy come from different backgrounds/religions, I'm sure that they are very tolerant of each other when it comes to cultural/religious things. Who knows, maybe they celebrate Christmukkah? :)

Ben
07-24-2006, 12:14 AM
Also, I'm not sure if this video was shot before or after Alizee met Jeremy, if it is the later, then the arm band could also be his influence.
After, but she's been wearing them all her life as far as we can tell (you can see them in videos as early as 2001). I don't think it has anything to do with religion, just superstition like you said. Alizée has said she's a "non-practicing Catholic". Though she was wearing a Hamesh hand (another Jewish/Islamic symbol) in the most recent pic of her with Anny-Lee.

I've read that Jérémy's mother (RIP) was Jewish, but then I've also been told via word of mouth that his father is as well. Have you heard otherwise?

But in any case, if Alizee and Jeremy come from different backgrounds/religions, I'm sure that they are very tolerant of each other when it comes to cultural/religious things.
Yes, I'm sure. All the more reason there won't be an x-mas album or anything religiously connected from them, though.

FanDeAliFee
01-23-2010, 05:20 AM
At the rate of one album every three years, that's actually probably true... though she'd have some explaining to do to her husband about an x-mas album (he's Jewish). :eek:

I thought it would broaden people's horizons to read an article on the Interfaith Family's Web site called The Jews Who Wrote Christmas Songs (http://www.interfaithfamily.com/arts_and_entertainment/popular_culture/The_Jews_Who_Wrote_Christmas_Songs_Prn.shtml). It writes in part:

Every year, in early December, the American Society of Composers and Publishers (ASCAP) compiles a list of the 25 most popular holiday songs as determined by radio air play... As you will see, 12 out of the 25 most popular songs were written or co-written by "verified" Jewish composers. I've followed this with a brief essay offering my theory on why so many holiday songs are written by Jewish composers.

It is also interesting to read what the Roman Catholic Church writes about Christmas (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm) in the official Catholic Encyclopedia.
Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their lists of feasts; Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday; Arnobius (VII, 32 in P.L., V, 1264) can still ridicule the "birthdays" of the gods...

The well-known solar feast, however, of Natalis Invicti, celebrated on 25 December, has a strong claim on the responsibility for our December date. For the history of the solar cult, its position in the Roman Empire...

The New England settlers we call the "Puritans" objected to Christmas for the theological reasons cited above. They viewed its celebration as a mark of dreaded "Papism" and they treated it as an ordinary day. Of course, that hardly stops Old Sturbridge Village (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Sturbridge_Village#OSV_today) from its new practice of staging an anachronistic Christmas celebration.

I don't find it surprising that many traditional cultures would want to mark the annual diminution or minimum of daily sunlight. And why not celebrate with some merriment to counter the depressive effects of reduced light? Indian Diwali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwali) always falls closer to the autumnal equinox than the winter solstice, but guess how it goes?
Diwali ... is a significant 5-day festival in Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism... The word literally translates as a row of lamps in Sanskrit. It is traditional for adherents of Diwali-celebrating faiths to light small clay lamps filled with oil to signify the triumph of good over evil within an individual...

Celebrations: Decorating homes with lights, Fireworks, distributing sweets and gifts...

Gosh, give or take a few days and maybe a dreidel, and you're coming darn close to Chanukah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah)!

I'll close with musician Michael Feinstein's recent Op-Ed (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/opinion/18feinstein.html) in The New York Times.

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It would be appropriate to mention here that the most famous modern entertainer from Corsica was Ajaccio-born <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tino_Rossi">Tino Rossi</a>, (1907–1983), who as a singer, made hundreds of records. After World War II, he was prosecuted for collaborating with the Nazis, but escaped serious punishment. By 1982, of all things, would be named a Commander of the Legion of Honor by President François Mitterrand, for his contribution to French culture. In 1946 Rossi sang a new Christmas song called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petit_Papa_No%C3%ABl"><i>Petit Papa Noël</i></a>, today the best-selling single of all time in France, with roughly 6 million units sold - also about the number of Jews murdered by his pals in <i>Das Dritte Reich</i>. One can listen to this song in the video immediately below.

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wildfire
01-23-2010, 07:36 AM
I think she will get into producing and limit her performances, if any...

When you consider how rapidly she grew into this business and her life (both producing albums and children before the age of 25), and a big factor that she is not a public person and naturally shy, i can see her taking a back seat and perhaps producing other artist as Mylene did with her.

She is a child of the Internet age, she knows where music is going and she's not interesting in placing being a zillionaire as her priority. So I think there is a logic there to my guess. Plus her involvement in Les Enfiores (sp?) shows her desires as a performer, i.e. in an ensemble and also for a purpose. Not just herself to make bucks.

personally I'd luv to see her in a film... Like a film that has the charm of Amelie and the song and fun spectacle of Moulin Rouge. I think a plain ole Romantic Comedy is a waste. I think what Alizée excels in is in allowing her natural charm and charisma to ground an audience in a fantasy environment. I think in many of her performances (Moi lolita, parler tout bas, Contre-Courant,J'Ai Pas Vingt Ans, J'En Ai Marre, Mademouselle Juliette) have her distinct personality in them: independent, sentimental, mischief, stubborn, curious, etc. I'd like to see that composite of a character. Someone flawed but who likes to do right. Play in the tinker-belle thing with perhaps a butterfly or something that kind of "accompanies" her on her journey.. nice allegories to her real life beliefs and superstitions. I think something with that sincerity and ernest suits er well.

Människöpesten
01-23-2010, 10:48 AM
she'll be the sole dictator of the planet, and several of Jupiter's moons...

Karlalizee
01-23-2010, 11:53 AM
about the being jewish and xmas album thing...niel diamond and barbara streisand made xmas albums and both are devote jews. why did they do it? one reason cha-ching$$$.

Deepwaters
01-23-2010, 12:04 PM
Ahem: http://alizeeamerica.com/play/?v=121

I think that answers that question.

Why in the world would she stop singing at 30? Good grief, one is still very young at 30. Mylène Farmer is a lot older than 30, and she's still going strong.

OGRE
01-23-2010, 12:07 PM
She will be three years shy of my optimal mistress age:

A = B/2 + 7

where:

A = Optimal mistress age.
B = My age

Damn, seven more years is a long time to wait.
:blink:

Merci Alizée
01-23-2010, 02:13 PM
In 2014, Alizée will certainly be making an awesome album and I will be in the studio watching her singing the song. Lol that's my daydream.

user472884
01-23-2010, 10:02 PM
she'll be the sole dictator of the planet, and several of Jupiter's moons...

you sir, are incorrect on that one.

She'll be the dictator of the planet, ALL of Jupiter's moons, and the emperor of the galactic empire.

paintballpdh19
01-23-2010, 11:17 PM
In 2014, Alizée will certainly be making an awesome album and I will be in the studio watching her singing the song. Lol that's my daydream.

yeah hopefully she has another album out in 2014! :)

FanDeAliFee
01-24-2010, 12:38 AM
personally I'd luv to see her in a film... Like a film that has the charm of Amelie and the song and fun spectacle of Moulin Rouge. I think a plain ole Romantic Comedy is a waste. I think what Alizée excels in is in allowing her natural charm and charisma to ground an audience in a fantasy environment. I think in many of her performances (Moi lolita, parler tout bas, Contre-Courant,J'Ai Pas Vingt Ans, J'En Ai Marre, Mademouselle Juliette) have her distinct personality in them: independent, sentimental, mischief, stubborn, curious, etc. I'd like to see that composite of a character. Someone flawed but who likes to do right. Play in the tinker-belle thing with perhaps a butterfly or something that kind of "accompanies" her on her journey.. nice allegories to her real life beliefs and superstitions. I think something with that sincerity and ernest suits er well.

I don't know if this will do it for you, but I verbally storyboarded a rewritten cover of a music video to star Alizée. It's a lot cheaper to make than a feature film. Alizée gets to fly, meets Amelie's Audrey Tautou in a pivotal cameo role, and constantly bumps into the icons of many of her old songs. Check out Alizée sings Saint Teresa (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/2009May.htm).

The original song artist, Joan Osborne, even makes Brooklyn her base, so she and Tahiti Boy could discuss his old haunts. Osborne originally wanted to be a film-maker, but stumbled into singing. She is about Mylène's age, yet all the same has a single child almost the same age as Annily.

lilly
01-24-2010, 12:56 AM
She will be three years shy of my optimal mistress age:

A = B/2 + 7

where:

A = Optimal mistress age.
B = My age

Damn, seven more years is a long time to wait.
:blink:

But but Alizée is like calculus, every equation has a discontinuity(exception), so your equation is invalid with lili! :D
There I just solved your problem, that will be $99.95.

Merci Alizée
01-24-2010, 10:35 AM
But but Alizée is like calculus, every equation has a discontinuity(exception), so your equation is invalid with lili! :D
There I just solved your problem, that will be $99.95.

Then solve the eqn in the region where it is continuous.

Ruroshen
01-24-2010, 12:35 PM
Then solve the eqn in the region where it is continuous.

My cat's breath smells like cat food!

OGRE
01-24-2010, 01:43 PM
Then solve the eqn in the region where it is continuous.

Aye, the continuous Lilly curves integrate into profound areas.
:D

user472884
01-24-2010, 02:05 PM
I like how in less then 20 posts this thread completely deviated from it's original intention.

FanDeAliFee
01-25-2010, 06:45 AM
I like how in less then 20 posts this thread completely deviated from it's original intention.

That is not always bad. The thread originator always has the option of digesting what he feels are relevant replies to his original post, amalgamating them into a coherent entity, and editing his original post to include them as an appendix, all as a service to future readers interested in an on-topic discussion.

Getting (sorta) back on topic:
If in her 30's Alizée hit REALLY hard on those Gummy Bears she loves and landed up in 2024 at age 40 looking just like Lolita's "Mom," would you love her any less? (Caution: Getting hit with wet laundry really hurts!)

User22
01-25-2010, 01:19 PM
That is not always bad. The thread originator always has the option of digesting what he feels are relevant replies to his original post, amalgamating them into a coherent entity, and editing his original post to include them as an appendix, all as a service to future readers interested in an on-topic discussion.

Getting (sorta) back on topic:
If in her 30's Alizée hit REALLY hard on those Gummy Bears she loves and landed up in 2024 at age 40 looking just like Lolita's "Mom," would you love her any less? (Caution: Getting hit with wet laundry really hurts!)

Dude Madonna is 40 and she still looks great and sounds great....that's how Alizee will turn out....after all she is trying to be like Madonna(not really though, she just really likes her haha)

Alizee Mid-West
01-25-2010, 02:08 PM
She will be three years shy of my optimal mistress age:


Nice Ogre. Dream big. I like your style.

Actually in 2014, Alizee will be in the 3rd year of her total domination of the world. Lord High Queen Alizee will rule the world and I will be her personal valet and servant.

User22
01-25-2010, 02:40 PM
Actually in 2014, Alizee will be in the 3rd year of her total domination of the world. Lord High Queen Alizee will rule the world and I will be her personal valet and servant.

Yah and pigs will fly....jk man. But yah man I'll be her secretary(the one she goes to for advice;)haha

Alizee Mid-West
01-25-2010, 03:39 PM
Yah and pigs will fly....jk man. But yah man I'll be her secretary(the one she goes to for advice;)haha

Advise her all you want. I just want her body.

User22
01-25-2010, 04:17 PM
Advise her all you want. I just want her body.

I meant "I'll be her secretary and give her advice." If ya know what i mean;)

Future Raptor Ace
01-25-2010, 04:26 PM
IF alizee's age in 30, what will she do? still she will sing ?

God only knows if we will still be around by then so my answer to you is you are thinking too far ahead. I don't think Alizee herself knows what she is doing next yr 2011 so let's just see how this album goes and take it one step at a time from there

Alizee Mid-West
01-25-2010, 04:46 PM
I meant "I'll be her secretary and give her advice." If ya know what i mean;)

Ah. You mean "Advice".

User22
01-25-2010, 04:47 PM
God only knows if we will still be around by then so my answer to you is you are thinking too far ahead. I don't think Alizee herself knows what she is doing next yr 2011 so let's just see how this album goes and take it one step at a time from there

yah....lets live with what we have(and what we're soon to have(UEDS!!!))

FanDeAliFee
03-16-2011, 06:31 AM
Alizée... was wearing a Hamesh hand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamsa) (another Jewish/Islamic symbol) in the most recent pic of her with Anny-Lee.

Alizee may also be partly Jewish as well. ...Alizee and Jeremy ...maybe they celebrate Christmukkah? :)

Those who believe Alizée is secretly a Merovingian royal named Princess Salomé (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150366&postcount=10) corroborate your theory! ;)

http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/AlizeePR.jpg (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150366&postcount=10)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs603.snc3/31741_1363048610223_1651848604_31292359_3301760_n. jpg (http://www.visit-corsica.fr/en/infotour/pcu/id/160/indice/26/page/3)

<hr size="5" width="90%" color="black">

In my essay Oi vey! Few things are more Jewish than US Christmas songs? (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=149635&postcount=7), I reported that
12 out of the 25 most popular [US Christmas] songs were written or co-written by "verified" Jewish composersWell, now I read here (http://institubes.tumblr.com/post/540656312/tahiti-blood-jamaicaremix) that Tahiti Boy (David Sztanke - more properly called Pannonia Boy, LOL?) is aka The Ashkenasi Yoda (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=152001&postcount=37) in some circles. I interpret this to mean that while David writes US-style Christmas songs, long enough ago back in Hungary his family used two sets of plates (http://www.ehow.com/how_5925941_serve-kosher-food.html)! ;)

Människöpesten
03-16-2011, 08:05 AM
Those who believe Alizée is secretly a Merovingian royal named Princess Salomé (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150366&postcount=10) corroborate your theory! ;)

http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/AlizeePR.jpg (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150366&postcount=10)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs603.snc3/31741_1363048610223_1651848604_31292359_3301760_n. jpg (http://www.visit-corsica.fr/en/infotour/pcu/id/160/indice/26/page/3)

<hr size="5" width="90%" color="black">

In my essay Oi vey! Few things are more Jewish than US Christmas songs? (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=149635&postcount=7), I reported that
12 out of the 25 most popular [US Christmas] songs were written or co-written by "verified" Jewish composersWell, now I read here (http://institubes.tumblr.com/post/540656312/tahiti-blood-jamaicaremix) that Tahiti Boy (David Sztanke - more properly called Pannonia Boy, LOL?) is aka The Ashkenasi Yoda (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=152001&postcount=37) in some circles. I interpret this to mean that while David writes US-style Christmas songs, long enough ago back in Hungary his family used two sets of plates (http://www.ehow.com/how_5925941_serve-kosher-food.html)! ;)

cool story bro?

Fall
12-31-2013, 10:39 PM
IF alizee's age in 30, what will she do? still she will sing ?

Well, that was posted some time ago!! But 2014 is almost here, and already is here elsewhere. I've been thinking about this thread for a while, waiting til today to give it a "bump."

Thanks to DALS and the extraordinary effort she put into it, and (it's worth mentioning) to the many performances and appearances throughout the year, now at the beginning of 2014 she is probably in the best place career-wise since she left MF/LB. I'm not gonna talk about whether she was better off with them or not, don't worry. But with the right choices, and using today's technological advantages (vs 10 years ago) she could go even further. All of that is basic no-brainer stuff, but what do you guys think will happen in 2014?

lefty12357
01-01-2014, 09:56 AM
The thing that impressed me the most about Alizée's participation in DALS is that I don't think I have ever seen her work so hard before. I've always said that I thought she was not that "industrious", but DALS was another story. I guess it's obvious that her first love really is dance, and she will put every ounce of effort she has into it. We also saw her competitive side really shine through. I can't make any predictions for 2014, but my wish would be that she put forth the same effort on her singing career and really work on her live vocal performances. It would be nice to see her find a vocal coach that would do for her singing what Grégoire helped her do with her dancing.

Scruffydog777
01-01-2014, 11:07 AM
I think Lefty is right about her, at times, not being that industrious. She needs someone or something to drive her. In the case of DALS, I think what drove her was not only her love for dance but it was because she wanted that trophy for Annily.

As far as the future, quite frankly I'm not optimistic. They are supposed to be coming out with a new album soon to captialize on this new success. If they couldn't put together a good one in over a year, what makes them think they can put togehter one in a few months? Sony provided her with 100 songs and they couldn't find one hit in that group? Who ever chose those songs, though some were "good", should be fired (Hang her .............oops!............maybe it was a him from the highest yardarm!).

Another big mistake Sony made was not including any dancing in her video unless you want to count that brief octopus dance or what ever it was as a dance. Do you think now they might realize her incredible dancing abilities?

As Lefty said, she should have been taking vocal lessons over the years. I have no doubt that she still has an incredibly beautiful voice. She's obviously a great dancer and she's still incredibly beautiful. But what I doubt very strongly is she'll be able to find someone such as a manager, who can bring out all those best features in an album and any related videos. I thought she would have that with Sony and I was very optimistic about 5, but I was so incredibly disappointed with the mistakes they made.

Maybe she should become a professional dancer? I'm sure she'd do well or maybe she should branch out into other areas such as being a judge on DALS?

I'm not sure what Psych did for her financialy, but since then, I'm sure all she's done is lose money. I'm sure her recent success, especialy with the DALS tour will provide her the financial security that will set her for life. She is on top now. I think now might be the time for her to open up a dance school or go into partnership with dancerman 1. If this new album to come out doesn't sell, call it a career, singing wise. Leave while you are on top.

There is of course one wild card in this whole equation and that is the two songs written for her by JJG. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him for what he's achieved and also for what he's done for the Les Enfoires show. I really enjoy this show and that includes many of the songs that Alizee has not participated in and I'm sure a lot of that enjoyment is due to his guidance.

So could those two songs have turned 5 into a success and now could they have an influence on this next album if they are included? I don't know. Alizee walked away from 2 incredibly talented artists before and what did it get her? Will she walk away from JJG?

Ray4AJ
01-01-2014, 07:12 PM
She doesn't have too many options.

I don't think she could become a professional dancer. Age isn't on her side for the physical demands. She seems to be a bit injury prone as well. I have been watching her DALS dances a lot over the last few days making a compilation of the clips, and while she does a great job with the routines, it's pretty obvious that she's not quite at the level of the pros from the show. Much of the time Gregoire was behind her watching and coordinating himself with her, and giving her cues occasionally. The pros moves were all crisp and precise all of the time. Maybe she could get to that level, maybe not. What's in it for her? She does seem to pick up the choreography easily and always seems to move well with music.

Perhaps in the future she could teach at Pierantione's studio, or maybe with Gregoire though that would probably require moving from Corsica.

She has become more accepted by the French now, though I'm not sure for what skill-set. She is often mentioned in gossip pages now, and is on TV almost every Saturday evening. Most importantly, all of this new recognition is in France. She really needs to get a new album out quickly, but it has to be something that people will buy.

And in order for that to happen, I think she will need to take and follow advice from someone. So many of her new fans are young girls who discovered her in DALS and will probably give her a chance musically if she gives them something they like. I think her singing really shines when she sings songs that are chosen for her. At Enfoires someone else arranges the show. She sounds terrific at all the 'Samedi Soir..." shows. The Olly Murs and Tal duets work well. When she does covers and knows how they are 'supposed to sound' she does it. I don't usually like the way she sounds live singing her own songs. But I love all her songs because she chose them and they are important to her.

I have hopes for the Goldman songs as well. He's had a long career making hits and maybe he'll coach her so the songs sound the way he intended. Maybe she can get him to advise her on the whole album.

I don't think there will ever be a better time for her to make a big splash with an album as right now.

Edit - Article from Monday:

http://reviewer.lavoixdunord.fr/fr/tv/actualites/83442/danse-avec-les-stars-4-2013-alizee-a-repris-confiance-en-elle-grace-a-l-emission/

The winner of dancing with the stars 4 (2013) was not necessarily at the top of his career and his life when the show began. With average sales on these latest albums and difficult to live with Jeremy Chatelain separation, the pretty brunette has managed to bouncing back professionally and personally, thanks to dancing with the stars 4. And she is well aware:

"This program has made me much good. Physically, because I am very feignante and I prefer to eat go to gym in normal times. Mentally also, I have more confidence in me from the show. ", she said in an interview with TV Star.

And Alizée goes on to explain that, suddenly, she is delighted to continue the adventure with the tour dancing with the stars : "I couldn't stop dancing from one day to the next, I've taken a liking." And then, there are only two concerts per week spread over two months, so I can work alongside and even return in Corsica."

Fall
01-01-2014, 10:38 PM
The thing that impressed me the most about Alizée's participation in DALS is that I don't think I have ever seen her work so hard before. I've always said that I thought she was not that "industrious", but DALS was another story. I guess it's obvious that her first love really is dance, and she will put every ounce of effort she has into it. We also saw her competitive side really shine through. I can't make any predictions for 2014, but my wish would be that she put forth the same effort on her singing career and really work on her live vocal performances. It would be nice to see her find a vocal coach that would do for her singing what Grégoire helped her do with her dancing.

Amen! Somebody mentioned that she doesn't have the strongest voice, but it really doesn't have to be. Her voice isn't the "strong type" that's all. I don't think somebody like Susan Boyle (:p) could do Alizée's songs justice, her voice wouldn't fit, kinda like Alizée only sang part of Single Ladies, because that song fit Tal much better. If she can get a vocal coach and improves her singing, we'd all be as blown away as we were when we discovered her, no doubt about it. :no:

Un-rêve
01-02-2014, 07:25 PM
^^

Good points peeps.. well Alizée is always gonna be Al♪zée no matter what and you can't take that away from her. Her success last year was something I don't think anyone could've imagined and even if we wanted or believed she was always capable of such success, I'm sure none of us could've hoped for such success in 2013 of all years and hopefully 2014 will be her year too in many ways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZAyxUMfBvA

Rev
01-03-2014, 02:45 AM
She doesn't have too many options.

I don't think she could become a professional dancer. Age isn't on her side for the physical demands. She seems to be a bit injury prone as well. I have been watching her DALS dances a lot over the last few days making a compilation of the clips, and while she does a great job with the routines, it's pretty obvious that she's not quite at the level of the pros from the show. Much of the time Gregoire was behind her watching and coordinating himself with her, and giving her cues occasionally. The pros moves were all crisp and precise all of the time. Maybe she could get to that level, maybe not. What's in it for her? She does seem to pick up the choreography easily and always seems to move well with music.

Of course she is not at pro level. It probably takes 5,000 to 10,000 hours of work to really get to that level. Keep in mind how much growth we saw in the ~400 hours she put in during DALS. She does have the potential to hone her abilities to a professional level. Also, as you did say, she is a very quick study.

By the way, keep in mind that the pros on DALS are some of the best in the country. You are not seeing an average pro on DALS. You are seeing the elite.

I have no doubt that she could dance at the professional level if she chose to. However, as she is simply not made of as sturdy stock as those on DALS, she could incur repeated injuries if she tried to get to elite level. Therefore, I have to agree with you that her actually dancing at that elite level is probably not a realistic goal.

The question for her would be, if you can't get to elite level would you want to be a pro? I think for her, as she is used to being the star, the answer would be no.

So then, what makes sense for her?

I think she is now finally figured out what she is good at. SHE IS A PERFORMER, not a "singer." It is the total package that sets her apart, and does put her in the elite level of French performers.

I think the French have finally figured it out as well. They finally "get" who she is, and have granted her celebrity status for who she is today. :)



... I think her singing really shines when she sings songs that are chosen for her. At Enfoires someone else arranges the show. She sounds terrific at all the 'Samedi Soir..." shows. The Olly Murs and Tal duets work well. When she does covers and knows how they are 'supposed to sound' she does it....


She does seem to need to be managed, and seems happiest when she is managed well. She is very feminine. At heart, she wants to follow.

I agree that she needs the type of work on her voice that she just went through with her dancing. She needs to be driven over a long period to constantly exceed herself. This is how she can get her voice into the same shape as her dancing now is.

She also needs to have her manager do a better job of negotiating how the microphone is adjusted at some performances. She has a very quiet voice. She does not belt out songs. I have heard way to many of her performances where the amplification is not properly adjusted for her. They repeatedly underestimate how quiet her voice is. The result is often that either she is not heard for the first 2 sentences until someone turns up the mic, or that she tries to sing louder which often either pushes her slightly off-key or simply washes out some of the fine texture in her voice.

Also, her voice is a little picky. She cannot sing just any song. She does need to have both the range, and sometimes even the words (the syllable sounds), carefully selected to maximize what her voice is best at. So, for her, it is not so much "go sing such-and-such," as it is "go sing this song in this key because the combination of the words and range brings out the magic in your voice."


I have hopes for the Goldman songs as well. He's had a long career making hits and maybe he'll coach her so the songs sound the way he intended. Maybe she can get him to advise her on the whole album.

I don't think there will ever be a better time for her to make a big splash with an album as right now.

I am sure the Goldman songs will be on the next album. She had to explain too often why they were not on the last one. She really has no choice. I just hope they fit the criteria I described above. If they do, it could be magic. :)

lefty12357
01-03-2014, 08:51 AM
Rev, I think you summed up the situation really well and I totally agree with you. Working as a pro dancer probably has a much more demanding work schedule than what she would have in her current career, not to mention the physical demands on her body. I would think it would be difficult to maintain her residence in Corse if she was a pro dancer. Being a single mom, she'd probably prefer the time off she gets between albums. And potentially, she could make more money with less time investment as a pop artist. Hopefully DALS has helped to make that a possibility again. The key is coming out with a good album with songs that fit her voice, and to do it before the DALS magic fades away.

Ray4AJ
01-03-2014, 08:01 PM
I think she is now finally figured out what she is good at. SHE IS A PERFORMER, not a "singer." It is the total package that sets her apart, and does put her in the elite level of French performers.

Ah, I love this! Yes. She puts on a great show and has fun doing it. When she's doing a medley I've seen other performers watching her and then try to move the same way she does.

Back to the dancing... She does seem to really enjoy it I hope she can find a way to stay with it that works for her. But I think she also wants to be in Ajaccio most of the time and the singing career can accommodate that life. Perhaps she's evaluating her options for the future now just as we are.