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davmuz
06-08-2007, 06:23 PM
Getting Varietes Francaises tommorow - it's maybe an old album - still THE NEW ONES COMING. Best to you guys this is a great website.
Speaking of Jeremy Chatelain, has anyone ever asked him, what it's like to be married to Alizee? Is that to personal to ask? If I had one question to ask him, this would be it....... ;)
Drake498
06-08-2007, 09:30 PM
As much as i'm curious :p I might think it to be too personal? maybe not... idk...
Edcognito
06-08-2007, 09:34 PM
As much as i'm curious :p I might think it to be too personal? maybe not... idk...
I bet he gets asked - I mean, it would almost have to be one of those questions a husband would have to get used to answering. Like asking whats your favorite color, whats your favorite music, whats it like being married to the most perfect woman on the planet?
I think he'd know how to handle it!
I don't think I'de know how to handle it! :)
Ed:cool:
Drake498
06-08-2007, 09:36 PM
^lol i'd just be like this the whole time --> :blink:
Getting Varietes Francaises tommorow - it's maybe an old album - still THE NEW ONES COMING. Best to you guys this is a great website.
It's not that old. :blink: It was released last year...
Speaking of Jeremy Chatelain, has anyone ever asked him, what it's like to be married to Alizee?
All the time.
heyamigo
06-09-2007, 06:46 AM
he's whipped. he promised lili not to reveal anything private. :)
Edcognito
06-09-2007, 07:40 AM
he's whipped. he promised lili not to reveal anything private. :)
And you wouldn't be, i suppose? :rolleyes:
I know I WOULD be! :wub: :eek: :wub: :eek: :wub:
Ed:cool:
Deepwaters
06-09-2007, 11:28 AM
Heh. Might not even be her instructions. Going by the comments on fan pages, half her fans want to beat him up, and the other half want to experience their relationship vicariously down to the pornographic details. :rolleyes: Well, except me. But I'm weird. And suck at being a fan.
If I were him, I might keep quiet out of sheer self-preservation. :eek:
While we're on the subject of M. Chatelaine, which incidentally may fit better on the "other music interests" forum than here, I was watching the video of the duet he did of "Ma Revolucion" with Jenifer the other day and I noticed something odd. There seemed to be a strange dynamic between the two of them. When he went to kiss her at the end, she seemed like she didn't want to. I almost expected her to slap him!
Am I imagining that, or does it look that way to anyone else?
Alizee_is_Scottish!
06-09-2007, 01:17 PM
Suppose it works both ways. I'm going to presume he's a good looking guy (not my specialist area :p ) - judging by his wife and the comments on his youtube clips.
Maybe Alizée will be getting asked about him a lot soon. Which is fine by me, because it means she is back!:)
Don't like his music much, but maybe the jealousy thing prevents me listening to it properly:confused:
here is an interview where he talks a little bit about Lili
>> Jeremy Interview (http://moi-alizee.us/wasp/wasp.swf?theFile=http://moi-alizee.us/media/Jeremy-2006-03-11-Interview-Tout-Le-Monde-En-Parle.flv&theVolume=50&startPlayingOnload=yes&popUpHelp=no&videoSmoothing=yes)
Sir Wood
06-09-2007, 08:18 PM
So, what is this "la DDASS" that they spoke of?
fsquared
06-09-2007, 08:29 PM
So, what is this "la DDASS" that they spoke of?
Based on
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDASS
I am going to guess that this means something like putting your child into foster care/social services. Seems like a pretty rude thing to say (and I think a woman who said "disgusting!" in response).
Sir Wood
06-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Based on
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDASS
I am going to guess that this means something like putting your child into foster care/social services. Seems like a pretty rude thing to say (and I think Jeremy said "disgusting!" in response).
Thanks, it does sound similar to Social Services here. JC's response to that was like, "WTF?"
Matrix
06-09-2007, 09:33 PM
here is an interview where he talks a little bit about Lili
>> Jeremy Interview (http://moi-alizee.us/wasp/wasp.swf?theFile=http://moi-alizee.us/media/Jeremy-2006-03-11-Interview-Tout-Le-Monde-En-Parle.flv&theVolume=50&startPlayingOnload=yes&popUpHelp=no&videoSmoothing=yes)
Well well well, isn't this an interesting video, thanks Brad. Jeremy confirmed he and Alizee flew to Vegas to get married... on a whim. The host said HE was responsible for wanting to produce Alizee. He said he called people and said we must produce Alizee at all costs. Then Mylene Farmer came in and "swish".. scooped her up and rest is history. And Jeremy confirmed his story and said Alizee knows this as well.
Man on panel: "Why aren't we gonna lay (pass) over Alizee?"
Jeremy: "Well it wouldn't please me too much, haha"
Ah.. Jeremy was sticking up for Alizee here, his wife. Good for you Jeremy
Host: "you play mother don't you?"
Jeremy: "Absolutely"
Host: "do you wake up at night and give her the baby bottle?"
Jeremy: "Well no, at her age, no"
Host: "that's not very rock n roll anyway"
Man on panel: "After one year you can already put her in la DDASS"
Jeremy: "haha..ha.. that's hard (cold) hhahaha. Meaning .. that"s messed up
Woman on panel: "that's disgusting"
So this man on the panel was tying to rip Jeremy by making a silly comment about la DDASS, which is some kind of hospital day care for socially challenged children or socially challenged parents???
I agree with Jeremy that comment by that guy on the panel was uncalled for , it was rude and Jeremy should have punched his lights out right there. You could see Jeremys expression, he didn't appreciate that comment.
Now the host finishes with this comment: "Jeremy I had prepared an interview that wasn't nice" and "finally I am not going to do it".
Very very interesting interview and to me it seemed like hositility was directed toward Jeremy to make him feel uneasy. What was this show about? Maybe the host is a french music critic
lefty12357
06-09-2007, 10:01 PM
Some previous discussion about it here:
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/showthread.php?t=713&highlight=DDASS
SpeedShift
06-10-2007, 01:40 AM
I was watching the video of the duet he did of "Ma Revolucion" with Jenifer the other day and I noticed something odd. There seemed to be a strange dynamic between the two of them. When he went to kiss her at the end, she seemed like she didn't want to. I almost expected her to slap him!
Hmmm, I can't seem to find that vid, is it on the internet?
About the interview, everybody seemed like they were out to get him. I have to say though, he handled it very well.
And from what I saw, I would say that Alizée hasn't made a bad choice for a husband (not that it matters what I think anyway...).
Very very interesting interview and to me it seemed like hositility was directed toward Jeremy to make him feel uneasy. What was this show about? Maybe the host is a french music critic
It's just the host's style. It's nothing personal against Jérémy nor his career. He is like that to all the people he interviews. Tries to get some reactions out of them, in which case he pretty much failed with Jérémy.
paleddy62
06-10-2007, 07:42 AM
Hmmm...haven't seen this vid, nor the one with JC and Jen....gotta start looking now. Anyways, thanks for the breakdown and translation of the vid. :)
lefty12357
06-10-2007, 02:31 PM
I think the vid you're looking for is here:
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/showthread.php?t=1702
Deus_Ex
06-13-2007, 07:24 PM
he's whipped. he promised lili not to reveal anything private. :)
lol, i wouldn't mind being whipped either.:D
(i mean literally, not metaphorically.)
On Jeremy's twitter on March 18th:
Jeremy Chatelain@JeremChatelainReply
J'suis un mélange entre Mère Thérésa et DSK , appelle moi Père Thérèska.
Translation:
I'm a cross between Mother Teresa and DSK, call me Father Thérèska.
I'm sorry, but that image is simply creepy. :noway:
Obviously he isn't handling his separation from Alizée too well.
Future Raptor Ace
03-23-2012, 10:59 PM
Obviously he isn't handling his separation from Alizée too well.
Where do you see that coloration from what Rev posted? :confused: Spell it out for me please; thank you!
User22
03-23-2012, 11:38 PM
Where do you see that coloration from what Rev posted? :confused: Spell it out for me please; thank you!
I second that haha.
pepelepew
03-24-2012, 01:20 AM
How can anyone make any since out of a statement held out of context from a whole series of responses is beyond me.:confused:
I'm a cross between Mother Teresa and DSK, call me Father Thérèska.
OK lets look at what he thinks of himself. He is a cross between Mother Teresa and DSK (Dominique Gaston André Strauss-Kahn) who's been accused by at least two women one an American immigrant and a French national for rape. Plus there are several French women who have come forward that he was a creepy old pervert who was constantly hitting on them.
So Jeremy thinks he's a cross between Mother Teresa, DSK all rolled into a Catholic Priest. :rolleyes:
Like I stated he's not handling it well and after that statement he's going over the edge. This type of strange behavior might be the reason for Alizée's moving to Ajaccio with Annili.
I was wondering when we would hear Jeremy's side of the split and wondered why he wasn't saying anything about the supposed problems with the marriage.
Future Raptor Ace
03-24-2012, 05:38 PM
OK lets look at what he thinks of himself. He is a cross between Mother Teresa and DSK (Dominique Gaston André Strauss-Kahn) who's been accused by at least two women one an American immigrant and a French national for rape. Plus there are several French women who have come forward that he was a creepy old pervert who was constantly hitting on them.
So Jeremy thinks he's a cross between Mother Teresa, DSK all rolled into a Catholic Priest. :rolleyes:
Like I stated he's not handling it well and after that statement he's going over the edge. This type of strange behavior might be the reason for Alizée's moving to Ajaccio with Annili.
I was wondering when we would hear Jeremy's side of the split and wondered why he wasn't saying anything about the supposed problems with the marriage.
Everything in RED that you said I follow. I still dont see how you made a correlation out of it; what is in red and what is in blue seem to be two entirely different things to me. I hardly consider making jokes on twitter to be strange behavior ... especially from a guy!
AND WE STILL DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE THEY HAVE SPLIT!
And how long has she and Annili been living with her parents in Ajaccio?
She flies up to Paris in the morning to meet with Sony / Jive records and flies back to Corsica that night. She doesn't seem to miss her 3,500-4,000 sqft house and her husband enough to spend the night at home. :13:
Two or three weeks on Corsica and back home I'd say it was a typical married couple minor fight. It is now turning into months away from her husband, and that isn't a little tiff, that is a major blow up and possible end to the marriage.
Plus all the pictures with the dance instructor isn't for us, it is to let Jeremy know she has someone else in her life.
Like I said before time will tell. The longer she stays on Corsica the higher the possibility is she is through with Jeremy.
Melle Katherine
02-04-2013, 07:56 AM
What do you think... are there any hope for them?
I mean, will they be together again once?
I think Jérémy still loves Alizée. Or am I wrong?
And what about Alizée? Does she love an other man? For example Pierre-Antoine? I don't know what to think about them... They're very good friends, maybe more.. (?) But once I readd that Pierre is gay. So what's up?
Melle Katherine, time will tell but I suspecting it is over with her moving out of her parents home and into her own apartment. If there was any hope of getting back with Jeremy I don't think Alizée would have made the move.
lapinschous
02-04-2013, 12:07 PM
here is an interview where he talks a little bit about Lili
>> Jeremy Interview (http://moi-alizee.us/wasp/wasp.swf?theFile=http://moi-alizee.us/media/Jeremy-2006-03-11-Interview-Tout-Le-Monde-En-Parle.flv&theVolume=50&startPlayingOnload=yes&popUpHelp=no&videoSmoothing=yes)
Link dead!! Can someone share a new link??? :fear:
DannyMac524
02-04-2013, 02:01 PM
All I can say is... shame on Jeremy for doing that to Lilly. Obviously he had what other men would die for, and did not know what he had. Thinking more of himself I expect than his wife and daughter.
Euphoria
02-04-2013, 02:10 PM
There's no way it could have *gasp* been HER? No way.
lapinschous
02-04-2013, 07:37 PM
Found the interview...:facepalm: http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/tout-le-monde-en-parle/video/I09231326/jeremy-chatelain-a-propos-d-alize.fr.html
:omg: I completely forgot about how stupid this guy is... no wonder everyone hates him here in france, and by everyone I mean EVERYONE. :PI: Thank god you don't understand what he's saying but he sounds soo retarded, even JB have more mature things to say sometimes. He's basically talking, laughing and approving everything the journalist says by repeating "yeah", yeah" with a huge grin on his face. It's no longer jealousy matters but i'm really trying to understand how the hell did the two end up together... anyway, it's none of our business i guess http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/sigh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862519
He's got no diploma whatsoever, got his momentary success from a stupid french tv reality show considered one of the lamest ever created by french channels ... okay i'm not saying that jérémy is mentally retarded but in this interview it sure as hell looks like it
I wish you could understand this video guys... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtozYuTw32s they basically expose what Jérémy truly is and he got slagged in ways you can't even conceive of.
oh god., look what i found .. he sounds stupid and gay in this one
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uft3_jeremy-chatelain-a-amneville_people#.URBR7h0qaSo
Okay people i'm not a hater, i'm just trying to raise awareness about the fact that Jérémy Chatelain, is arguably for Alizée the least suitable husband i could think of... http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/dead-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862498She would have made such a nice couple with someone like Mika , Emmanuel Moire (++) , Renan Luce or even Enrique Iglesias, but why Jeremy, why??? Alizée used to have the whole masculine world at her feet , yet she chose an autistic, undereducated, apathetic nobody.. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/depressed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862499
edit: wrong picture
http://s.plurielles.fr/mmdia/i/19/3/people-jeremy-chatelain-2501193_123.jpg?v=1
SpanishFan
02-04-2013, 07:49 PM
wow, very classy post...
The only thing I will say is that the guy on the left is not even J.C.
http://24.img.v4.skyrock.net/6980/11666980/pics/490745678_small.jpg
lapinschous
02-05-2013, 05:12 AM
Ok sorry for sounding rude or something but I just wanted to share the truth about this guy, he even said in an interview before marrying alizée that the good thing about dating famous people is that he gets to use their fame and money to pump up his own ... I'll try to find the newspaper but I remember it as if it was yesterday.
This dude might not even love Alizée for what she is but merely used her to give credit to his own career... And I don't think he's much taking care of Annily since Alizée says she's always have to think of solutions to take care of her when she's working, and probably cancelled her latest concert with Alain Chamfort because her daughter was sick.
Jérémy isn't that much of a nice guy, try to learn more about his life and you'll understand my point.
Quinetiam
02-05-2013, 05:45 AM
OK, there is a solution to this Guy:
Make it look like an accident, say a skydiving mishap... better yet... he'll whack his head while skateboarding and get run over by a FedEx truck.
Then a concerted campaign to wipe all info from all electronic and paper mediums in the world.
Then a prolonged intensive gene therapy for the little girl and possibly Stem-cell implants from mama.
AJ herself will have to be micro-biotic-ally purified and most likely have membranes stripped and regenerated throughout her reproductive system.
Shall we proceed?
lapinschous
02-05-2013, 05:56 AM
lol , interesting, but it's less about eradicating the dumbass than to understand why did Alizée chose such a loser that we should focus on ... There's so many great guys out there, and she had to choose an imbecile alcoholic stoner..
Melle Katherine
02-05-2013, 07:39 AM
I can't understand why you dislike Jérémy... I don't have any problem with him. Who cares how's his behavior in the shows? Only one thing matters: how did he doing with Alizée and Annily. Anyway I love him because I think he's handsome enough and talented too. I love the clothes he created (Sir Sid) and the music he composed (for example Psychédélices album for Alizée!) And... we don't know the real Jérémy... so don't judge him. Alizée loved him for something...
lalorocks
02-05-2013, 09:34 AM
For me, Jeremy and Alizée were a nice couple. Obviously they had problems and probably, they won't be together anymore. I met him in Mexico, he was talking with the musicians and he looked a funny guy.
Scruffydog777
02-05-2013, 09:07 PM
OK, there is a solution to this Guy:
Make it look like an accident, say a skydiving mishap... better yet... he'll whack his head while skateboarding and get run over by a FedEx truck.
Then a concerted campaign to wipe all info from all electronic and paper mediums in the world.
Then a prolonged intensive gene therapy for the little girl and possibly Stem-cell implants from mama.
AJ herself will have to be micro-biotic-ally purified and most likely have membranes stripped and regenerated throughout her reproductive system.
Shall we proceed?
Maybe we could say he was attacked by a rabid scruffy dog?
melovelily
02-05-2013, 10:21 PM
I payed 3 guys to do the job :cool:
Sierra hotel india echo ... Don't spoil it texasguy :D
lapinschous
02-09-2013, 05:15 PM
I can't understand why you dislike Jérémy... I don't have any problem with him. Who cares how's his behavior in the shows? Only one thing matters: how did he doing with Alizée and Annily. Anyway I love him because I think he's handsome enough and talented too. I love the clothes he created (Sir Sid) and the music he composed (for example Psychédélices album for Alizée!) And... we don't know the real Jérémy... so don't judge him. Alizée loved him for something...
I'm not the only one Katherine... this guy is retarded, i've gathered some posts from archives of this forum...
08-05-2006, 05:21 PM
The very few I've seen him interviewed on TV, he really sounds like a moron. And I really mean it! :(
08-06-2006, 07:58 AM
From what I've heard, he did sound and act like a complete moron before he met Alizee, but has been talking and acting smarter (or at least has been trying to) since they started going out.
What Alizée needs to do is loose everything about her own image that has any connection to that clown named Jeremy, and bring back the reason why people liked Alizée, wich is ALIZEE. Not Lolita, but Alizée. The woman in the pictures from the Paris shoot. Take away the comercial image that Jeremy laid upon her, and get back to the timeless style of natural beauty and romance .
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-193.html
Melle Katherine
02-09-2013, 05:30 PM
I know you're not the only one and many fans dislike him.
But can't know him... And Alizée loved him for something. She saw something important in him. Btw I would be curious what was that...
melovelily
02-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Can someone tell me how to spell his last name ?
Chata-lain ? Chat-lain ?? Chateee-lain ??? Chat-zée-lain ????
Karin
02-09-2013, 05:34 PM
well... most people dont like him, cause...
1) many boys were in love, and he destroyed it :D
2) after she met him, she started doing "crazy" things from clothing to making decission
3) and many people thing, he was one of reason why she ended with MF and LB
Edit:
I know you're not the only one and many fans dislike him.
But can't know him... And Alizée loved him for something. She saw something important in him. Btw I would be curious what was that...
well... every girl see something in her boy... but personally my opinion, cause they went into marriage so quickly... I think after time, the something special just disappear and maybe were showen not the best sides of Jeremy
Future Raptor Ace
02-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Im sorry but maybe Jeremy isnt the sharpest knife in the draw but to make Alizee out to be some "intellectual" is just foolish. She is just a singer and that is it! Jeremy on the other hand writes, sings, and has his own business as well as various other things that we are just starting to learn about.
lapinschous
02-09-2013, 05:43 PM
She saw something important in him. Btw I would be curious what was that...
Important I don't know... but the thing is that
-they both got their fame from popular Tv shows... well graines de star was at least a bit less idiotic than Star academy from which Jeremy came from.
- they both were the same age
- they both were away from they family and friends,
which meant that when they met at Eurobest 2003 , they were the only two french people of the same age and.. well they got to know each other. And alizée said that she was open to any kind of guy as long as he his gentle with her... so yeah , Jérémy is a kind guy... but that's all , i don't see many other qualities he might have except being "kind" ...
Im sorry but maybe Jeremy isnt the sharpest knife in the draw but to make Alizee out to be some "intellectual" is just foolish. She is just a singer and that is it! Jeremy on the other hand writes, sings, and has his own business as well as various other things that we are just starting to learn about.
lol ... jérémy cannot write songs without the help of Jean Fauque , his voice is monotone and is now reduced to being an underpaid dj in cultural events , just check his tweets, he keeps going from club to club, where i remember he has never been known for soberness... (have a look at his post concert videos )
here's the latest video where he appears, if you still find enough charisma in that to fit alizée.. well then alizée must have sunk pretty deep then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL5Vxakttrk&feature=player_embedded
0:52
http://b1.img.v4.skyrock.net/8017/59268017/pics/3087223949_1_9_DNXoBQUK.jpg
Future Raptor Ace
02-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Jérémy isn't that much of a nice guy, try to learn more about his life and you'll understand my point.
And alizée said that she was open to any kind of guy as long as he his gentle with her... so yeah , Jérémy is a kind guy... but that's all , i don't see many other qualities he might have except being "kind" ...
You have me confused?
Euphoria
02-09-2013, 05:52 PM
Except writing his own music, playing multiple instruments, owning a business, designing his own clothing line and even making the clothes himself...Sounds pretty talented to me. A lot of people that used to be hot singers are now producers for other artists. He's successful without the spotlight on him. I think you guys that hate him are just jealous. How the hell can you put the failure of their marriage solely on him? Gurl was sucking him dry, and not in the good way. From what I heard, she was out of control with his money.
Future Raptor Ace
02-09-2013, 05:54 PM
Except writing his own music, playing multiple instruments, owning a business, designing his own clothing line and even making the clothes himself...Sounds pretty talented to me. A lot of people that used to be hot singers are now producers for other artists. He's successful without the spotlight on him. I think you guys that hate him are just jealous. How the hell can you put the failure of their marriage solely on him? Gurl was sucking him dry, and not in the good way. From what I heard, she was out of control with his money.
Where's the like button on your post Euphoria?
Karin
02-09-2013, 05:56 PM
From what I heard, she was out of control with his money.
and you wouldnt be? :D :p
lapinschous
02-09-2013, 06:26 PM
You have me confused?
Just trying to please jérémy's supporters by trying to admit a quality that i doubt he has, but that's not the point .
Jérémy has never been able to write any good song on his own, and the more he contributes to it the shittier it becomes. (Oh btw, his clothing brand never met true success, it is totally unknown in france, ask anyone here )
Just try translating this song, and tell me how much sense it makes and how interesting it is.. http://musique.ados.fr/Jeremy-Chatelain/Je-M-En-Fous-t33348.html
I'm not a hater, I just seriously believe that Jérémy should have ended up with the girl he had a crush on, a girl way more like him , Emma Daumas, who came from the same tv show, and adopted the same style has him.
http://www.name-list.net/img/images.php/Daumas_5.jpg
Future Raptor Ace
02-09-2013, 06:34 PM
Just trying to please jérémy's supporters by trying to admit a quality that i doubt he has, but that's not the point .
Jérémy has never been able to write any good song on his own, and the more he contributes to it the shittier it becomes. (Oh btw, his clothing brand never met true success, it is totally unknown in france, ask anyone here )
Just try translating this song, and tell me how much sense it makes and how interesting it is.. http://musique.ados.fr/Jeremy-Chatelain/Je-M-En-Fous-t33348.html
I'm not a hater, I just seriously believe that Jérémy should have ended up with the girl he had a crush on, a girl way more like him , Emma Daumas, who came from the same tv show, and adopted the same style has him.
http://www.name-list.net/img/images.php/Daumas_5.jpg
Whoa whoa whao, I am NOT a Jeremy supporter lol :D
But say what you want about Jeremy, he has accomplished much more than Alizee in my opinion.
All the divorces I've seen where it has come down to who was at fault, its running 50/50 between the husband and the wife. To blame one or the other in this case isn't fair to either side since not one of us is privy to that actual reasons for the split.
The only thing that is making me look at Jeremy as the problem, is Alizée's actions of moving her and Annili back to Corsica into her parents home.
She moved into her own apartment even though she spent the first nine to ten month with mom and dad.
She has also said that she wanted Annili to get her education in Ajaccio not in Paris.
Maybe Alizée is one of those types that isn't marriage friendly. Too independent of a woman and likes it that way.
Lili4ever
02-10-2013, 06:25 AM
Whoa whoa whao, I am NOT a Jeremy supporter lol :D
But say what you want about Jeremy, he has accomplished much more than Alizee in my opinion.
Really? What has he done, Alizee hasn't done ? I see he has only 2 albums and the last one was like 7 years ago. Both of them would be considered a huge failure for Alizee.
melovelily
02-10-2013, 06:32 AM
I think FRA meant accomplished as in " did more different stuff in the biz " like what euphoria mentioned way above
But if he meant it as in success then LOOOOOOOOOL not even close
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 02:10 PM
I think FRA meant accomplished as in " did more different stuff in the biz " like what euphoria mentioned way above
But if he meant it as in success then LOOOOOOOOOL not even close
Well this is where we venture into was is arbitrary and compricious. We agree that he accomplished more however how does one define success? I honestly don't view Alizee as a success, I view her as an artist currently fighting to make it.
melovelily
02-10-2013, 02:44 PM
I'm not talking about right now i mean the overall or more specifically their " highest point "
when you compare them back in 2000-2004 in term of popularity/sales/marketing which ( while i don't fully agree with it ) defined/defines success then jeremy is no where near zée's level
Eh even currently he isn't on her level ... Well popularity wise at least
But i don't really give a shit :-p know that much about how he did and is doing in his career so i might be wrong
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 04:43 PM
I'm not talking about right now i mean the overall or more specifically their " highest point "
when you compare them back in 2000-2004 in term of popularity/sales/marketing which ( while i don't fully agree with it ) defined/defines success then jeremy is no where near zée's level
Eh even currently he isn't on her level ... Well popularity wise at least
But i don't really give a shit :-p know that much about how he did and is doing in his career so i might be wrong
See but you're talking about in terms of selling records which is only one of Jeremy's attributes. Jeremy does other things other than make music. ALL ALIZEE DOES IS SING, so in terms of success JEREMY IS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL! He sings, he composes, he writes, he is a clothing designer, etc.
It would be like saying, Micheal Phelps lost the butterfly (or was it the 4 x 4 rely, i forgot) last Olympics so he isn't as successful as the other swimmer who won the event. However if you look at the (I think it was 4) other events Micheal Phelps won you can definitely say Michael Phelps was the more successful swimmer.
melovelily
02-10-2013, 05:02 PM
so in terms of success JEREMY IS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL! He sings, he composes, he writes, he is a clothing designer, etc.
I'd call this interests or multi-talents not success
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 05:06 PM
I'd call this interests or multi-talents not success
So making tons of money from one's "interests" and or "multi-talents" is not success? :fear:
Euphoria
02-10-2013, 05:17 PM
Jeremy is successful. He makes a lot of money writing music for other people. Just because he's not in the limelight anymore doesn't mean he's not successful. You can hardly call Alizee successful at this point considering she hasn't had any hits in a decade.
melovelily
02-10-2013, 05:37 PM
What am trying to say is that Jeremy IS successful ON HIS OWN ( b4 i get anyone confused ) BUT remember we are COMPARING him to alizée's success and he simply never made it as big as her ,get it ;)
I'm talking about how FRA said that he is more successful than alizée and he isn't , more talented ? Yes but never made an impact like her
He never had a hit like moi lolita , and he never was at the top like alizée
Again ON HIS OWN he is successful but when compared to zée his star never shined as much as hers did :o
You guys are talking about their current status but i'm talking about their whole career
I'd say they're on the same level right now ( except in mexico of course :D )
Scruffydog777
02-10-2013, 05:49 PM
I talk to people in other forums and people outside the forums and I hear all kinds of things about Jeremy and I was talking to someone recently who has been a fan for years, who was lucky enoughy go to one of the En Concert shows at the Zenith and he is someone who I got the impression, knew what they were talking about and what he said about Jeremy was after his last album, he got more into the song writing and managerial part of the business and he said he has not faired well and so he went back to being involved with the family business. A business the family did well with. It had to do with something along the lines of managing properties or renting properties. But until someone comes up with some hard cold facts, I guess each of us has to choose what they want to believe.
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 06:20 PM
What am trying to say is that Jeremy IS successful ON HIS OWN ( b4 i get anyone confused ) BUT remember we are COMPARING him to alizée's success and he simply never made it as big as her ,get it ;)
I'm talking about how FRA said that he is more successful than alizée and he isn't , more talented ? Yes but never made an impact like her
He never had a hit like moi lolita , and he never was at the top like alizée
Again ON HIS OWN he is successful but when compared to zée his star never shined as much as hers did :o
You guys are talking about their current status but i'm talking about their whole career
I'd say they're on the same level right now ( except in mexico of course :D )
I think the problem is we are both defining two different definitions of success, which is ok, since the definition is very misconstrued since it is really up to ones interpretation.
melovelily
02-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Yep that summed it up :o
mzracing76
02-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Alizee sings to make people happy, not necessarily to become rich or have sucess, alot of singers are like this. I can name a few
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Alizee sings to make people happy, not necessarily to become rich or have sucess, alot of singers are like this. I can name a few
I dont agree with that, I think as humans our main goal is to be successful and be the best at whatever it is we have a passion for.
Euphoria
02-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Really? I've always thought it was the opposite. It doesn't seem like she really enjoys it anymore.
Karin
02-10-2013, 07:34 PM
I dont agree with that, I think as humans our main goal is to be successful and be the best at whatever it is we have a passion for.
every coin has two sides... not everyone want that
Future Raptor Ace
02-10-2013, 07:43 PM
every coin has two sides... not everyone want that
Well not to get off topic but no, everyone wants success and the best but few are aware or willing to admit it. Otherwise why do you go to school, in school why is there ranking and grades, why do you get a job, what type of job do you want, what type of pay do you want, what type of people does the job want to hire, what do you want your ideal mate to be, what quality possessions do you want, what do you want for your kids, what do you want for your family, what do you want to eat? The answer to all these questions is the very best ... aka human nature! Magnitude of willing to settle is what defines this "best", but the want is always there, it is in our nature. Darwinism survival of the fittest and that is how humans have evolved whether one likes it or not~! Alizee is a human therefore she is no different.
Gotta love circular logic :p
Karin
02-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Well not to get off topic but no, everyone wants success and the best but few are aware or willing to admit it. Otherwise why do you go to school, in school why is there ranking and grades, why do you get a job, what type of job do you want, what type of pay do you want, what type of people does the job want to hire, what do you want your ideal mate to be, what quality possessions do you want, what do you want for your kids, what do you want for your family, what do you want to eat? The answer to all these questions is the very best ... aka human nature! Magnitude of willing to settle is was defines us, but the want is always there, it is in our nature. Darwinism survival of the fittest and that is how humans have evolved whether one likes it or not~! Alizee is a human therefore she is no different.
Gotta love circular logic :p
we go to school cause we must, we learn so much only just to forgot in future, we work just cause thats the rule of life... but how many of the people who make all this can tell they get succes? really not much... and succesful less or much, on death bed it wouldnt help you.
I dont blame, that Jeremy is maybe succesful, but really in something what is not visible
Un-rêve
02-10-2013, 09:31 PM
I wish them both the best.
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See but you're talking about in terms of selling records which is only one of Jeremy's attributes. Jeremy does other things other than make music. ALL ALIZEE DOES IS SING, so in terms of success JEREMY IS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL! He sings, he composes, he writes, he is a clothing designer, etc.
Yes, he has done more things than she has, but I don't see how that makes him more successful than her. Unless he has sung, composed, written, or designed something that was a hit. As far as I know, (and well honestly I know little, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) none of his other endeavors have been any more successful than Alizée's efforts since she left MF/LB. And also, it's just me being nitpicky, but Alizée also does the DJ thing apart from singing/performing. :p So getting mediocre results from many endeavors doesn't mean he's more successful than Alizée just because so far all we know she's real good at (and she IS real good at and has earned success from -) is singing.
Jeremy is successful. He makes a lot of money writing music for other people. Just because he's not in the limelight anymore doesn't mean he's not successful. You can hardly call Alizee successful at this point considering she hasn't had any hits in a decade.
Has he written any hits for other people then? Because Pyschédélices was released during that decade, and that was a group effort by Zée and the J-man. Now don't get me wrong, Psych is my favorite album of hers, but as so many would say, it wasn't successful. So despite his (I'm sure) best efforts on his wife's album, it didn't match her earlier works in sales at least. And if all Alizée does is sing, you can't say it was her fault. So again I genuinely ask, what/where are his successes?
he said about Jeremy was after his last album, he got more into the song writing and managerial part of the business and he said he has not faired well and so he went back to being involved with the family business. A business the family did well with. It had to do with something along the lines of managing properties or renting properties. But until someone comes up with some hard cold facts, I guess each of us has to choose what they want to believe.
I agree, I'd like to see hard cold facts about his accomplishments before I say that he is more successful. As for his family's business, if it was doing well before him and it still is, then kudos to the J-man.
melovelily
02-11-2013, 06:57 AM
Fall sees it the same way as i do :)
Also ...
Psych is my favorite album of hers, but as so many would say, it wasn't successful. So despite his (I'm sure) best efforts on his wife's album
it didn't match her earlier works in sales at least
that's true
it wasn't successful in france
Fixed
I think i read not along time ago on alizée-forum that the album made 300k in less than a year and by now it made even more probably so it did good globally
lapinschous
03-25-2013, 04:03 PM
Now we know who Jérémy Chatelain truly was, an immature party animal bad at parenting smoking weed and playing video games with his friends all day in a two rooms flat with Alizée taking care of Annily ... 10 ans , says it all.
Future Raptor Ace
03-25-2013, 04:08 PM
Now we know who Jérémy Chatelain truly was, an immature party animal bad at parenting smoking weed and playing video games with his friends all day in a two rooms flat with Alizée taking care of Annily ... 10 ans , says it all.
link, source, rationale on how you came to that......???
Never mind found it. You should really post a link to your post in the other thread http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7380
BrianO1
03-25-2013, 05:52 PM
Now we know who Jérémy Chatelain truly was, an immature party animal bad at parenting smoking weed and playing video games with his friends all day in a two rooms flat with Alizée taking care of Annily ... 10 ans , says it all.
Yeah so....where exactly did you get all of that information?
Rocket
03-25-2013, 06:45 PM
I say we nail Jérémy Chatelain balls to a stump and push him over. :mad:
lapinschous
03-25-2013, 07:30 PM
Yeah so....where exactly did you get all of that information?
Immature => Lili said it and his interviews confirm it
Party animal => Lili said it and his twitter confirms it
Weed smoker => Fans have reportedly seen him smoking suspicious joints in the backstage after one concert during his 2004 tour, the lyrics of his song Vivre ça kinda supports the theory.
Video games addict => Lili said it.
Euphoria
03-25-2013, 07:37 PM
Yeah, but where? You always say she's said things but never post where it's from or a translation.
Future Raptor Ace
03-25-2013, 08:59 PM
Agreed, lapinschous you cant just say things like that without posting the source. It is not that we dont believe what you are saying but you just saying things out of context with no background story so it is hard for me (I cant speak for everyone else) to follow.
I say we nail Jérémy Chatelain balls to a stump and push him over. :mad:
Ooouch lol! Well boys we all just learned to not piss off Rocket huh ....
Rocket
03-25-2013, 09:33 PM
Ooouch lol! Well boys we all just learned to not piss off Rocket huh ....
You got that right Ace! :cool: ;)
Ooouch lol! Well boys we all just learned to not piss off Rocket huh .....
She's just getting warmed up, :p
JoeNY
03-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Screw Mr. Alizee. His claim to fame is marrying one of the hottest women in the world. Alizee is the reason we love French women so much and 'Jerry' is the reason we hate French dudes so much. ;) BTW, try picturing Alizee standing in front of the TV in lingerie and Jerry telling her to move so he can finish the level on his video game. WTF are you smoking, boy?! Oh yeah, weed.
User22
03-25-2013, 09:57 PM
Immature => Lili said it and his interviews confirm it
Party animal => Lili said it and his twitter confirms it
Weed smoker => Fans have reportedly seen him smoking suspicious joints in the backstage after one concert during his 2004 tour, the lyrics of his song Vivre ça kinda supports the theory.
Video games addict => Lili said it.
I know at least one source that confirms the video games and immature claims: http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite/interview-49503.html#utm_source=viewer&utm_medium=viewer&utm_campaign=ALIZ?
Just came out today so I think thats why Lapin assumed everyone knew since, I dunno bout you guys, but I read everything as soon as it comes out :)) too much time on my hands. That article is a great read!!!
Rocket
03-26-2013, 12:17 AM
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She's just getting warmed up, :p
lol you guys know me so well. :p
Euphoria
03-26-2013, 01:21 AM
Jeremy must be a trainwreck because Alizee is quite immature herself.
Araz77
03-26-2013, 06:12 AM
Aaronius, I cant find Alizée stating that he is immature and a video game addict, I dislike Jeremy as much as the next guy but I need some clear evidence to support these theories/statements.
Tiwaz
03-26-2013, 03:20 PM
Jeremy must be a trainwreck because Alizee is quite immature herself.
Yea, but it's a difference between being into childish things like cartoons n shit. and being an irresponsible pot smoking prick.
Un-rêve
03-27-2013, 12:37 AM
Jeremy must be a trainwreck because Alizee is quite immature herself.
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Euphoria
04-08-2013, 08:16 PM
Yea, but it's a difference between being into childish things like cartoons n shit. and being an irresponsible pot smoking prick.
How is smoking pot irresponsible? There are lawyers, doctors, CEOs, etc that smoke pot.
Future Raptor Ace
04-08-2013, 08:25 PM
How is smoking pot irresponsible? There are lawyers, doctors, CEOs, etc that smoke pot.
Yea and they are looked down upon and frowned upon by their respected peers. I have no respect for anyone who does weed; they are lazy, obnoxious, loud, and just really annoying to deal with.
lapinschous
04-08-2013, 08:29 PM
^agreed. I've tried it many times because it's so damn cheap over here, but seriously , no one should and it's eveb proven to decrease IQ on the long term..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-107618/Cannabis-lowers-IQ-levels.html
I've seen too many people over the years screw up their lives with recreational drugs and alcohol. Sure there are some people that have done them occasionally and got away with it but most watch their lives disintegrate around them.
One of my friends had a great career ahead of him in the Pennsylvania State Police. His addiction to Cocaine and alcohol ended what could have been a great future. He lost his beautiful wife and son when she walked out when he wouldn't admit he had a problem. I don't think the guy has ever held a job paying more than $12 an hour.
My best friend in High School watched one of his college friends end his career days before graduation from Carnegie Mellon University.
His friend had a few days free between finishing his final exams and graduation, so this guy decides he is going to do some LSD. He figured this is probably the last chance he'll have since he had a great job lined up after graduation. Being he was not savvy on drug use, the dealer he bought from told him to take three hits when he handed him three baggies with three pills each. Problem was this guy didn't realize that the three pills in each of the baggies was the three hits. This young man instead of taking three pills ended up taking all nine pills. He screwed up his mind and was never right after that drug trip. A degree in electrical engineering from one of the top Universities in the United States and his future was over before he even walked up to accept his diploma.
It is all fun and games in your teens and twenties but when you head into your thirties you will start to count the number of people around you who have fallen prey to drugs and alcohol.
Euphoria
04-08-2013, 10:32 PM
Well that escalated quickly. MJ ain't LSD. You're comparing apples to oranges.
sumi1
04-08-2013, 10:39 PM
Well that escalated quickly. MJ ain't LSD. You're comparing apples to oranges.
MJ may not be LSD but that doesn't make it a good thing. I have friends who have this dependence on pot and have screwed up their lives.
User22
04-09-2013, 02:15 AM
MJ may not be LSD but that doesn't make it a good thing. I have friends who have this dependence on pot and have screwed up their lives.
Yeah I hate when people say MJ is okay since its not addicting which is quite the contrary. Yes, its not physically addicting, but it definitely is mentally addicting because since people say its a good feeling they keep wanting to do more and more, therefore making it addicting.
How is smoking pot irresponsible? There are lawyers, doctors, CEOs, etc that smoke pot.
Well that escalated quickly. MJ ain't LSD. You're comparing apples to oranges.
lol, caught the weed smoker
nah jk :p
Euphoria
04-09-2013, 09:34 AM
I've never even smoked a cigarette. It's convenient that people always have a story of a friend of a friend that had their life ruined by weed. ;)
Personally never had anyone around me screw up their lives on weed. They started with weed and then progressed to harder drugs. Most of the crime in this country is due to people robbing others to finance their drug habits. Gang bangers are not killing each other over a pack of cigarettes they're killing each other over the massive amount of money that is being made off illegal drugs.
Future Raptor Ace
04-09-2013, 11:58 AM
Im from NYC, everyone around me when im home smokes weed. My kitchen *stinks* of weed because my asshole neighbors smoke it in their yard. I cant stand these people ... they just sit home all day w**king off smoking weed to the early hours of the morning blasting music and not caring who cant sleep as a result of their behavior! Needless to say im happy my university is 6 hours away in Buffalo and I dont have to be in that shithole. However college kids are no better ... its just at least im not forced to see them! I look at these people as "kids" children who never grew up and just want to party and do nothing all day. They are dead beats and might fool a few people and achieve success but in reality they'll have never amounted to anything other than getting higher than ever thought possible. I love seeing them bitch and cry when they get caught too; its just always the same scenario and its too funny! Its even better when they yell at the officer like its their fault ... how dare you catch me and the officer will be like "well you're a stupid moron that puts a bong in plain sight why wouldn't I search you you moron!" I cant stand pots smokers seriously; if you want me not to have respect for you just start smoking weed in front of me.
Tiwaz
04-09-2013, 03:12 PM
How is smoking pot irresponsible? There are lawyers, doctors, CEOs, etc that smoke pot.
Well, it depends. Some people can handle their shit. The description of Mr Chatelain suggest he can't. People are free to do what they want and I wouldn't have cared if it wasn't for the fact that he's a father and was married to one of my idols. I'm sure you, the doctors and lawyers can handle a joint now and then.
Corsaire
04-09-2013, 04:21 PM
Marijuana and alcohol are not as bad as some people make them out to be, **if** used in moderation. You can mess up your life as badly with unhealthy compulsion for food, sex, money... It’s all about being responsible and knowing how to respect your mind and body. I know a person who basically wasted his life because he let a bad relationship ruin his existence. Should people stop entering into relationships? I know someone who is morbidly obese and physically, she cannot leave the house, let alone find a potential husband or get a job. Should people avoid eating?
Of all the people I know, some of the nicest, cleverest, happiest and leaving the most fulfilling lives have consumed their share of drugs in their days and some are still using them for recreational purposes. They are also caring, respectful of others and a pleasure to interact with. On the other hand, I know quite a few assholes who have never smoked a joint nor drank a glass of alcohol.
sumi1
04-09-2013, 05:41 PM
Marijuana and alcohol are not as bad as some people make them out to be, **if** used in moderation.
Just because something is not as bad doesn't make it good. I agree that everyone who has smoked weed once or twice is not a bad person. Also not everyone who doesn't smoke is an angel.
The issue is drugs/alcohol etc. have the potential of messing up one's life very bad. Unfortunately, often the users end up allowing drugs take control of their lives.
WhiteFeather
04-10-2013, 07:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFNGH9jHyM
Euphoria
04-10-2013, 09:53 AM
I don't consider weed to be a drug. Heroin is a drug.
Future Raptor Ace
04-10-2013, 12:59 PM
I don't consider weed to be a drug. Heroin is a drug.
Well that's kool, but whether or not you consider it one the medical community as well as the country you live in still considered it one and that is why it is deemed illegal in 48 states.
Euphoria
04-10-2013, 01:04 PM
Alcohol is just as bad, if not worse. I guess people are just pansies nowadays. ;) Prohibition didn't work out too well.
DrSmith
04-10-2013, 01:32 PM
Well that's kool, but whether or not you consider it one the medical community as well as the country you live in still considered it one and that is why it is deemed illegal in 48 states.
That's not why it's illegal. THC is in the same drug category as caffeine, which I believe is legal (or I'm breaking the law every day.) Calling something a "drug" doesn't make it illegal, and it doesn't mean it's bad. There are plenty of legal drugs, including medicine as well as recreational drugs. And last I checked, pot is legal in 18 of God's Own United States.
Im pretty sure it's known i have a big love affair with mary jane. I smoke the finest herb from the wellness center. When it comes to kush and the many ways you do it smoke/vape/edibles/etc it is up to you. There are healthy safer ways to reduce the harmful parts of smoking weed. I prefer weed over alcohol, but thats me. I smoke everyday atleast 5-10times a day. Actually smoking a bowl as I write this up. When it comes to party drugs thats when things can take a turn if you have addiction problems. Stuff like coke is easier to find and cheaper than weed when you buy more and more in bulk. I've played with coke here and there when at clubs or a party and actually, but have actually turned it down more than I've done it. It's one of those right people, right moment things for me... never gone looking for it. If it happens to present it self then its a simple yes or no. For some its not that easy and the self control issues amung other things probably are major factors for addicts opposed to a recreational user who can stop and go no problem. I will say if you do mess around with enough of them such as ACID it can change you. Psychedelics are things I've never done, but my buddy took 13 hits of cid and hasn't been the same dude since.
Future Raptor Ace
04-10-2013, 09:51 PM
That's not why it's illegal. THC is in the same drug category as caffeine, which I believe is legal (or I'm breaking the law every day.) Calling something a "drug" doesn't make it illegal, and it doesn't mean it's bad. There are plenty of legal drugs, including medicine as well as recreational drugs. And last I checked, pot is legal in 18 of God's Own United States.
I was obviously talking about recreational use which is 48 not medical use but nice to see you can be a wise guy ;)
There is a big difference between medical drugs and caffeine versus other drugs and I feel sorry for you if you can not see or understand that NON SUBTLE difference because even idiot law makers can!
I've noticed caffeine is a drug of some sort.. why else would you be able to buy large amounts on the black market such as The Silk Road.
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lapinschous
04-21-2013, 03:36 PM
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3740/jeremy1x.jpg
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