View Full Version : A Contre Courant...doh
lohssanami
08-21-2007, 10:58 PM
Ok...I had read somewhere in these forums that A Contre Courant was the favorite of one the members here. So last night on the way home I started listening to it, and I am stuck on it now.
Keep in mind, I have only had the Mes Courants Electriques for a few weeks, and I started listeneing to J'en ai marre and J'ai pas vingt ans. Then I started listening to Toc de Mac and L'e-mail a des ailes. Last weekend it was Moi...Lolita, and now it's A Contre Courant...doh. Is this going to keep happening everytime I start listening to a new song over and over?
You guys are getting me into Alizee overload!
Thanks...
Oh your screwd now, dude!! :eek: Those songs are gonna stick in your head - LiLi 24/7!
La Isla Bonita got me first, then Parler Tout Pas, ML, and ACC. IMO, i think A Contre Courant is her best song...though it never really hit the heights of Moi Lolita....
Joey_adore_Jung
08-21-2007, 11:18 PM
it with me would have to have been JPVA, then JEAM, A Quoi Rêve une Jeune Fille, Moi... Lolita, now i find myself listening to Veni Vedi Vici. we all now what your going through if not most of us.
garçoncanadien
08-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Alizée overload is good :p
yeah lol ... it gets real bad at times.
ive been hung up on Tempête (http://moi-alizee.us/play/?v=76) for a while now myself
Chommpers
08-21-2007, 11:39 PM
your no different from the rest of us lol ;) . You can never overload on Alizée anyway :p . As far as getting stuck on songs, I have that problem too. It was C'est trop tard a few week's ago, but I just got Ma Prière on mp3 a few day's ago (I know I should have had it forever ago) and I have been listening to it quite a bit.
Calisto
08-21-2007, 11:39 PM
I'm still stuck on Gourmandises myself. Lately I've also been stuck on Youpidou and C'est Trop Tard as well. ACC is Amazing as well as L'Alize...Ahhhhh I'm stuck on them all what am I saying! :D
theit77
08-21-2007, 11:39 PM
lohssanami,
I completely understand, and completely agree. All of her songs are catchy, and infectiously happy. If you're ever down, one minute of Alizée is all you need. As for listening to songs, I just got my drivers license and I've been blasting Alizée everywhere I drive, 'tis magnificent.
The problem with having a favorite Alizée song is that there isn't one that's head and shoulders above the rest - they're all head and shoulders above all other music. You'll come to realize that if you listen to any of her songs 3 or 4 times in a row, it will become your favorite, and therefore your favorite will switch around often.
garçoncanadien
08-21-2007, 11:41 PM
Indeed with the weird things I see as a medical student, I will need Alizée and Mylène now more than ever to help me keep perspective and focus :(
Calisto
08-21-2007, 11:50 PM
lohssanami,
The problem with having a favorite Alizée song is that there isn't one that's head and shoulders above the rest - they're all head and shoulders above all other music. You'll come to realize that if you listen to any of her songs 3 or 4 times in a row, it will become your favorite, and therefore your favorite will switch around often.
So very true. I'm still personally amazed at this "Lili Effect" myself. I mean this music is nothing at all like the music I used to love (I know others here are the same way) but yet I'm obsessed with all of these songs and love them all equally, I could play it non-stop and never get tired of it. (Heck I practically do anyway) :)
Get the En Concert CD or the DVD and rip the music to CD's. Your going to find there are some songs you like live and others the studio version is more to your liking. I like the live version of, Hey Amigo, Toc de Mac, Gourmandises, J.B.G., C'est trop tard, Youpidou.
I like both versions of L'Alize', J'ai pas vingt ans, and Parler tout bas.
The rest I like the studio versions better.
marik
08-22-2007, 12:24 AM
stuck in Amelie ma dit! ahhhh!
lohssanami
08-22-2007, 02:13 AM
HAHA...I see I'm not alone...good.
Funny thing happened when I went walking with some friends tonight, and one of them stumbled on a sidewalk crack. She turned and looked at us, and I said, "C'est pas ma faute!" My buddy just replied with a quick, "...dude...you gotta stop listening to that French chick!"
It's already spreading to my friends. Good stuff!
Right now you're infected. ;) Soon, you'll think her music is a must to rid you from daily stress.:blink: Then Alizee becomes your daily dose of vitamins...:D See, all better now (Give it 28 weeks):)
heyamigo
08-22-2007, 04:27 AM
in a few weeks we'll have much more songs to have "phases" with.
Killian
08-22-2007, 08:41 AM
I've never been able to just listen to one song, I seem to get stuck on an album. I find myself listening to an album the whole way through.
But if I only had time to listen to one song, it would probably be C'est Trop Tard or Veni Vidi Vici.
Uméesha
08-22-2007, 09:49 AM
all songs of alizee is pleasent to here and listen! its like honey in my mouth.... sweet voice in my ear, that i always care... she if fair:D beautiful! i love not only previous album but also the upcoming albums too!
HAHA...I see I'm not alone...good.
You are definitely not! I have some of her songs stuck in my head too, and I could listen to one of her songs over and over again and then move to a different song and listen to it over and over again too. It's what I called "Alizee/Lili effect".
chelsey
08-22-2007, 10:07 AM
Believe me these songs will stick with you for a LONG time:) you are going to be addicted:)
Dunno who that one member is...
But hell yeah ACC is the best ! It's the most lovliest of all Lili songs ever sang and will always be so. :wub:
It's impossible to get tired of it. Over four years I have listened it every single day, and usually several times a day, and still it's like brand new ! Every time you enjoy little bit more of it. Everytime you fall in love to it, again and again, deeper and deeper. It's not just a song, it's a whole universe. It's the very soul Alizée and everything she presents. She sounds absolutely amazing in it. It's perfect for her soft voice and pronouncing.
And she even looks absolutely amazing in it.
À Contre-Courant equals Lili equals life. :wub:
Zack -Alizee Lover-
08-22-2007, 11:11 AM
I see someone is happy now
Amelie
08-22-2007, 11:18 AM
Alizee prefers A contre-courant too. after Moi...Lolita :) my first one was Amelie M'a Dit. but now it is...Moi...Lolita...
If you refer to me... I'm in love... She's my passion and I talk of her from bottom of my heart.
But that doesn't change anything in my life. It's as crap as yesterday.
And no... I'm not happy... I will never be. There's only one thing that would make me happy and that is unreachable for me.
btw, thanks for removing that sig. It hurts to see people stealing it.
Amelie
08-22-2007, 11:27 AM
i could say many things now. but i won't.
Zack -Alizee Lover-
08-22-2007, 11:34 AM
btw, thanks for removing that sig. It hurts to see people stealing it.
Well, its urs anyway.. but i think i asked if i could use it.. or at least i think i did :blink:... you should check ur PM's on AF.
isabella
08-22-2007, 11:38 AM
When you listen all of the songs (L'Alizé, gourmandises, hey! amigo! etc.) you never want something else anymore!;)
Yess maybe I shuld. but I hve not have timee ti read all the messaages from the llast two months. But Ihave tried. And atlesst to repl y something.
Its ok now anywways. you are ok guy soo no harm doone. ANd sinnce you asked anywys. maybe I dint´'t see it or dont remember.
espire
08-22-2007, 03:52 PM
Heheh, RMJ's just an emo now? ;)
Well, at least you're not listening to simple plan :D.
i dont undrestaand-. WHaat plan youu talk aboutt?
Deus_Ex
08-22-2007, 04:20 PM
Indeed with the weird things I see as a medical student, I will need Alizée and Mylène now more than ever to help me keep perspective and focus :(
alizee is the best study music for me (especially when you have to memorize lots of stuff--aka in immunology). btw, are you a medical student in the US or canada?
Un-rêve
08-22-2007, 04:51 PM
I'm in love... She's my passion and I talk of her from bottom of my heart.
But that doesn't change anything in my life. It's as crap as yesterday.
And no... I'm not happy... I will never be. There's only one thing that would make me happy and that is unreachable for me.
Do you think you're the first person to have a rough time? Get a grip man and stop feeling sorry for yourself!
I understand you have deep feelings for Alizée but your thinking in a negative way and that's why you're depressed.
Don't be so selfish Alizée is married and has a daughter, be happy for her!
Alizée may well be perfect for you, but would you be good for her? That's a question I asked myself once and now I'm just happy for Alizée that she has someone to make her happy.
If you believe Alizée's your soulmate it won't get any easier but you could love someone else just not in the same way. The bond we fans have with Alizée is a special one, embrace it because we are blessed!
Just keep your head high, you will meet her oneday if you really want to. Maybe after a concert or something. You can't profess your undying love for her though because that would probably just freak her out lol.
You can show her love in other ways that she will appreciate though . Paying her a complement or two, thanking her for who she is and maybe even by giving her a special gift. I'm sure seeing her smile would mean the world to you.
Start thinking in a positive light because just meeting Alizée is a dream worth holding on to, just don't set your sights to high because you'll only be setting yourself up for dissapointment.;)
Youpidou is one that I get stuck in my head. I do that with most of her songs. I will be humming, and realize it is one of Lili's songs. I do it without even realizing it.:)
whatt do you knnow about my ptroblems? they are nott relateeed to Lili. except thee love part of courrse wich affectss my mood alot. .
TYes Ik now she is marrieed and hass child nd husband and that is not a problme for me. U'm happy for them alll. I knoww perfec tl y werll tha we don 't haave fujture. Annd i kno w Im nothing for hr, not perfect for herr.. if we arre meant to bee togtherr then it will happn somday but I dno't coun t on it.
bUt stiil. shE is everythibn g to me. Im nothihng wuthout her. good as dead.
she dont needd to nderstand anby of thiss. ALl i want is to thank her wht sh edid for me. She savved m y life once. GAve me reasson to live. oNly if she could take it awat tooo.
But neverr think im in this placec beacayse of her. Im inspite of her. Id be much wirse without her. she givves me litttle joy and abilityy to dream. Dream of worl d withoyt pain.
One dayy in near futuer I wiish to be abble to thank her. Thha t day gives me l.ittle hope.
theit77
08-22-2007, 05:24 PM
I've never been able to just listen to one song, I seem to get stuck on an album. I find myself listening to an album the whole way through.
But if I only had time to listen to one song, it would probably be C'est Trop Tard or Veni Vidi Vici.
Finally, someone else who's favorite (albeit barely better than the rest) is Veni Vedi Vici - it's got a good combination of the bright, happy tone of Moi... Lolita, and the harder, rock-ier tone of C'est Trop Tard.
neoific
08-22-2007, 05:32 PM
whatt do you knnow about my ptroblems? they are nott relateeed to Lili. except thee love part of courrse wich affectss my mood alot. .
TYes Ik now she is marrieed and hass child nd husband and that is not a problme for me. U'm happy for them alll. I knoww perfec tl y werll tha we don 't haave fujture. Annd i kno w Im nothing for hr, not perfect for herr.. if we arre meant to bee togtherr then it will happn somday but I dno't coun t on it.
bUt stiil. shE is everythibn g to me. Im nothihng wuthout her. good as dead.
she dont needd to nderstand anby of thiss. ALl i want is to thank her wht sh edid for me. She savved m y life once. GAve me reasson to live. oNly if she could take it awat tooo.
But neverr think im in this placec beacayse of her. Im inspite of her. Id be much wirse without her. she givves me litttle joy and abilityy to dream. Dream of worl d withoyt pain.
One dayy in near futuer I wiish to be abble to thank her. Thha t day gives me l.ittle hope.
Stop crediting your existance to her music, you are here because you choose to be. It is YOUR decision to be alive, not anyone elses. You don't know her personally, therefore you don't love her. You are infatuated Alizee, not Lili. Honestly, you need to grow up; you need to realize that life should be something beyond desire and lust. There is more to life than simply living, thats just the starting point. Also you seem to be intoxicated when you post most of your messages now, stop hiding behind drugs and things will come much easier.
I don't know what situation you're in, but I can guarantee you that I have been is worse. Far worse. You don't know what its like to goto federal court as a minor. Therefore my words have meaning behind it. Things will be OK. Just chill and enjoy the ride for what its worth.
Un-rêve
08-22-2007, 05:44 PM
whatt do you knnow about my ptroblems? they are nott relateeed to Lili. except thee love part of courrse wich affectss my mood alot. .
bUt stiil. shE is everythibn g to me. Im nothihng wuthout her. good as dead.
Well I was just replying to your last post and now reading this here it seems very much related to Lili. I can tell when someone is crying out for help and I can also tell that you've been drinking.
You obviously didn't take in all of my last post, I was just trying to help you see the " love part " from a different perspective that's all.
. ALl i want is to thank her wht sh edid for me. She savved m y life once. GAve me reasson to live.
{ Edit} Well it's good that Alizée has given you hope in the past, that's something special but now it's time for you to be strong.
Take care and all the best.
Deepwaters
08-22-2007, 05:57 PM
There's only one thing that would make me happy and that is unreachable for me.
You didn't say this, but I'm assuming you mean having Alizée for a lover/wife. Or if not that, at least a close friend.
If so, you're mistaken, RMJ. That would not make you happy. Take it from someone who has been through more failed relationships than anyone should have to. If you are dependent on your relationship with someone else for your happiness, if you don't have a core of happiness inside yourself, from which you can give that happiness to another, it won't work.
Alizée is a wonderful healer and has, in ways you recognize even if you don't believe in them, kept you alive for years, but all that does is give you a chance to address your real problems and pull yourself out of your emotional mire. And that's something YOU have to do. She can't do it for you.
RMJ, please take control of your situation. Like deepwaters said, you are the only one who can pull yourself out of this situation you are in.
Marrying Lili is not going to happen. I know this isn't something you like but it is just the way it is. Be happy that Lili has a beautiful family that she loves and that loves her. She is a mother and that is the greatest gift a woman can have. You should be happy that she has been given this gift.
Also, do you really think Lili would want you miserable like this? If she knew you she would probably be somewhat freaked out by your behavior. I am sure she doesn't want people obsessing over her like this.
I am not trying to be mean or accusing with this post, RMJ. I want you to get better, and be happier.
garçoncanadien
08-22-2007, 07:37 PM
RMJ we can all find our own Lili in our lives.
We would love to help you if you would just tell us what is bothering you. Until that time, only you can get out of your situation, it is only up to you RMJ. We can't help you if we don't know what to help you with.
RMJ its a fundamental truth that nobody wants to date anybody who is not fundamentally happy and cheerful themself (girls and boys included). Think about this: You can live in happiness by yourself. But you can live in better happiness with your soulmate.
Now tell us how we can help you RMJ. We sincerely want you to get better.
Calisto
08-22-2007, 07:57 PM
RMJ we can all find our own Lili in our lives.
We would love to help you if you would just tell us what is bothering you. Until that time, only you can get out of your situation, it is only up to you RMJ. We can't help you if we don't know what to help you with.
RMJ its a fundamental truth that nobody wants to date anybody who is not fundamentally happy and cheerful themself (girls and boys included). Think about this: You can live in happiness by yourself. But you can live in better happiness with your soulmate.
Now tell us how we can help you RMJ. We sincerely want you to get better.
First I'd like to second that and just agree that I would sincerely like to see you get happy and want to help as well. There was a point in the last few months of me being a big fan of Alizee, and watching every translated interview and reading everything I could, that I was just hit with a strong sense of sadness that lasted a good while.
It just hurt watching and studying this person who I just see as such an amazing person in so many more ways then just sheer beauty, and yet I will most likely never even have a chance to meet her. (Although the fact that she can completley melt me just by smiling didn't help either.)
But I came to realize on my own pretty much everything garçoncanadien said. There is a Lili out there for everyone.
Something else big I came to realize, I think a MAJOR reason why so many of us are so attracted to Alizee is just her absolute Love of Life itself and happiness that just comes through in every interview and song she does. It is actually kind of a rarity in this day and age. (At least for me and the girls I meet anyway) Everyone seems to just be down a lot and upset with something or another, But Lili is nothing but happiness. (At least thats all that we see of her for the most part)
RMJ I'm not suggesting this is even the problem you were having, it just kind of sounded similar so I wanted to throw my 2 cents in there :)
I'd also like to add, this is just an amazing site going on here. Very glad I found it. Just so much genuine kindness you rarely see on any forums...it's really a great community :o
I'd also like to add, this is just an amazing site going on here. Very glad I found it. Just so much genuine kindness you rarely see on any forums...it's really a great community :o
We are one big happy family who loves Lili. At least I view this community as a family. We offer each other advice, assistance, and good communication. I think we fit the description of a family quite well. I know we all don't always agree, but that is no different than any other family.
lohssanami
08-23-2007, 02:45 AM
Whoa...lot's of stuff since I last had a chance to check out the thread.
I know we see celebrities and have aspirations, dreams or hopes of meeting them, but I'll just say how I look at Alizee and what she has done for me.
Initially I saw her as this "hot babe" I saw in a video clip (J'en ai marre...short shorts...etc). I checked online to see if there were more clips, and I watched a few and thought, "...yeah...she is one hot French chick!" After watching enough of the clips, I thought that the music sounded pretty good so I wanted to know what she was saying.
I started looking for English lyrics to the songs, and I found some online that, of course, didn't do justice after the translation. This made me think more of wanting to learn French and revisit, not only the few classes I took in high school, but also the persistent desire I have had throughout my life to travel to France and experience a different culture then the one I have had for 37 years. I decided I needed to start studying French.
I thought getting some movies, music, books and study materials would help. After getting Rosetta Stone, I bought a few Monica Bellucci (the other most beautiful woman in the world) films and the Mes Courants Electriques CD and started listening to Alizee. Her music just seemed to keep me listening, and when I wasn't listening to one of my new 6 favorite songs, she made me want to read French online or browse through some literature. Watching her interviews on moi-alizee.us, and seeing her true zest for life just motivates me. Each day that I listen, I think that it is just a matter of time before I will be able speak French so well that it will be second nature. This has led me to start planning for a trip to France.
I have already made tentative plans to go to France in the summer of 2009, and three of my friends have already comfirmed that they are willing to make the commitment. All of us are excited at going overseas for the first time, and I am trying to figure out how many weeks I can plan on staying, in addition to realizing that I better get a strong grasp of the language so I can translate for them. I am on a mission to bring on more friends for some or all of my trip, and I am more determined to make this happen then I have been for anything else I have done up to now. The funny thing is none of my friends had ever heard of Alizee, and none of them has much interest in listening to her music, but they are truly excited about this trip.
My life, and the lives of my friends, has been affected by this young woman from Corsica, merely by the passion she has for her music and the emotions she conveys to her fans.
Do I think I will ever meet her? No!
Do I want to go to France to find her? No!
Would I like to thank her for getting me out of my doldrums, funk, depression or whatever it is that kept me stagnant? Sure. It's like the movie "Pay It Forward". She has done something for me just by singing her music, and now I want to positively effect someone else's life the same way she has effected mine.
We shouldn't put these celebrities (even lili) on a pedestal and hope that someday our lives will intertwine, but use the emotions they evoke from us to make a positive change in ourselves and others.
For RMJ, I don't know what is going on in your life, and I am not qualified to tell you how to fix your problems. I just think you should take all of the positive feelings you get from Alizee, and apply them to whatever is getting you down. Maybe it would help.
Just my 75 cents...
lohssanami
08-23-2007, 03:58 AM
Thanks Moe...
Topaz
08-23-2007, 04:02 AM
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*insert sad stuff here*
sorry RMJ, just come back when you feel better
-brad
Whoa...lot's of stuff since I last had a chance to check out the thread.
I know we see celebrities and have aspirations, dreams or hopes of meeting them, but I'll just say how I look at Alizee and what she has done for me.
Initially I saw her as this "hot babe" I saw in a video clip (J'en ai marre...short shorts...etc). I checked online to see if there were more clips, and I watched a few and thought, "...yeah...she is one hot French chick!" After watching enough of the clips, I thought that the music sounded pretty good so I wanted to know what she was saying.
I started looking for English lyrics to the songs, and I found some online that, of course, didn't do justice after the translation. This made me think more of wanting to learn French and revisit, not only the few classes I took in high school, but also the persistent desire I have had throughout my life to travel to France and experience a different culture then the one I have had for 37 years. I decided I needed to start studying French.
I thought getting some movies, music, books and study materials would help. After getting Rosetta Stone, I bought a few Monica Bellucci (the other most beautiful woman in the world) films and the Mes Courants Electriques CD and started listening to Alizee. Her music just seemed to keep me listening, and when I wasn't listening to one of my new 6 favorite songs, she made me want to read French online or browse through some literature. Watching her interviews on moi-alizee.us, and seeing her true zest for life just motivates me. Each day that I listen, I think that it is just a matter of time before I will be able speak French so well that it will be second nature. This has led me to start planning for a trip to France.
I have already made tentative plans to go to France in the summer of 2009, and three of my friends have already comfirmed that they are willing to make the commitment. All of us are excited at going overseas for the first time, and I am trying to figure out how many weeks I can plan on staying, in addition to realizing that I better get a strong grasp of the language so I can translate for them. I am on a mission to bring on more friends for some or all of my trip, and I am more determined to make this happen then I have been for anything else I have done up to now. The funny thing is none of my friends had ever heard of Alizee, and none of them has much interest in listening to her music, but they are truly excited about this trip.
My life, and the lives of my friends, has been affected by this young woman from Corsica, merely by the passion she has for her music and the emotions she conveys to her fans.
Do I think I will ever meet her? No!
Do I want to go to France to find her? No!
Would I like to thank her for getting me out of my doldrums, funk, depression or whatever it is that kept me stagnant? Sure. It's like the movie "Pay It Forward". She has done something for me just by singing her music, and now I want to positively effect someone else's life the same way she has effected mine.
We shouldn't put these celebrities (even lili) on a pedestal and hope that someday our lives will intertwine, but use the emotions they evoke from us to make a positive change in ourselves and others.
For RMJ, I don't know what is going on in your life, and I am not qualified to tell you how to fix your problems. I just think you should take all of the positive feelings you get from Alizee, and apply them to whatever is getting you down. Maybe it would help.
Just my 75 cents...
That was good story and advice.
I had never thought of her in the sense of a "pay it forward" idea. I know what you mean by it. Since I found Lili I have the desire to show people that the world isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be. That just because a culture is different does not make it bad. We have to view and judge cultures from the point of view of the people who live in that culture.
I was talking to a friend today about France, and this other kid walks up says "The french are gay". I stayed calm and asked him why he thought they are gay? He said because they act funny. That kind of thinking makes me so angry. I know he gets his oppinion of France from his dad (who thinks America is a perfect nation and that no other nation is as good as America), but that doesn't make it right for him to criticize a country's culture because it is different. I really want to show people how great other culture's are. This is my goal. I am moving to France so that I can experience another culture, and give my family a first hand account of what life outside of America is really like and not what the media portrays it as. I love the uniqueness of the different cultures of the world. It is something so speacial that people can get together and form something unique to call their own, and I don't like the mentality that everybody should be like America. That is taking the uniqueness out of the world.
I am glad that people like Lili are out there because even though she has done it unintentionaly she has changed people's lives and introduced them to a different culture. She has helped people when they are emotionally hurting and when they just need to smile. And because of that positive effect she has had on people she has given people the desire to experience more new things and help other people. Thank you Lili.:)
Boccob
08-23-2007, 05:39 PM
L'Alize is my favorite tune, and has been since the first time I heard it. I listen to her music when I'm in the car or at home. Helps me chill out when I'm frustrated about something or other. I also find I can get to sleep faster and easier by listening to some of her stuff.
SwedishFan
08-23-2007, 06:18 PM
L'Alize is my favorite tune, and has been since the first time I heard it. I listen to her music when I'm in the car or at home. Helps me chill out when I'm frustrated about something or other. I also find I can get to sleep faster and easier by listening to some of her stuff.
Yeah,,i know what you are talking about,,my favourites are Amélie,Toc de mac,,,well i love all of her songs.I listen to Alizée almost daily on my Mp3 player when i´m working,or in my car.She has a calming effect on me,so when i get really stressed out(witch happens constantly at work:mad: ) i always play some Alizée,take a deep breath,then i´m a happy camper again:).
Un-rêve
08-23-2007, 07:43 PM
sorry RMJ, just come back when you feel better
Go for a run/jog and clear your head, it used to work for me.
Steven0022
08-23-2007, 07:45 PM
Go for a run/jog and clear your head, it used to work for me.
I don't quite think thats going to work for our buddy RMJ, but it was a good thought :p
lohssanami
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
That was good story and advice.
I had never thought of her in the sense of a "pay it forward" idea. I know what you mean by it. Since I found Lili I have the desire to show people that the world isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be. That just because a culture is different does not make it bad. We have to view and judge cultures from the point of view of the people who live in that culture.
Thanks...and yes, we should reserve our judgements until we experience first hand. Good Luck with those around you!
AsianGuy
08-23-2007, 10:06 PM
just wait when the single of fifty/sixty come out everybody is going to be hooked on it and im just hooked on 21 second of it crazy right
Dunno about u guyz, but RMJ's 'saddness' is gettin to become a downer. I know ur down in the dumps, man, but....we can only help you to an extent. You don't seem to want our help....our 'words' of encouragement won't mean JACK if you, yourself, don't accept our help. If bringing us down makes you feel better....dunno what to say.
from what i can tell, its one thing to be a fan of Alizee.....but when it becomes an Unhealthy Obsession?....You keep saying ur current state isn't related to her..but when you say your happiness is unreachable because she's Married....its not hard to read between the lines.
CFHollister
08-24-2007, 02:23 AM
I think it's time to leave RMJ in peace.
'nuff said, IMO.
espire
08-24-2007, 02:48 AM
I agree entirely with CFHollister. Whatever concern we have with RMJ, we've expressed it enough. Repetition will do no more good.
Steven0022
08-24-2007, 02:54 AM
I think it's time to leave RMJ in peace.
'nuff said, IMO.
"QFE"!!!!!!!
rwd716
08-24-2007, 03:20 AM
RMJ, I can feel the vibes that are coming from what u are saying. And seeing that Brad's "correcting" what u said makes it all the more real. I won't come back at you with this "get over it" or "we all have probs so get over it" speach (as some have).
I can literally feel your saddness. I hear u when u say, "She saved my life," and you wish to thank her. We wil never know about your problems, but people throwing them aside with general comebacks doesn't help either. Basically, I just wanted to comment to say that I got a feeling for what you're feeling, bro. Hang in there. All of this Bullshit! can work itself out. Even at he bottom there are always more poor bastards below u, lol. Ehh, gimme a pm if ya wanna talk. I'll try to talk shit through w/ ya sannn!
but when you say your happiness is unreachable because she's Married....its not hard to read between the lines.
IF brad hadn't deleted my message, you would know very well that it isn't so. But no... he went and deleted the only post that tries to correct your wrong assumptions...
I have said and I will say again... LILI BEING MARRIED IS NON OF MY PROBLEM ! I'M HAPPY FOR HER BEING HAPPILY MARRIED !
Everyone understands it now ?
I still do am in love with her and always will be. But no, I'm not home breaker or anything else. I would NEVER hurt Lili. I have never tried to do anything to stop her marriage nor question it's rightfulness. I have never said bad thing against Jérémy. I have great respect for him. If Lili chose him, he must be one helluva guy. And they even decided to have a baby. So all my respect goes to him. They are in love and if that is what makes Lili happy, it makes me happy, too.
What comes to me and my problems, I have thanked everyone who has tried to help. But you just can't change a thing in my life. Your words do mean to me, but unfortunately, there's very little they can do in reality. They cannot alter the reality.
Great to hear from you RMJ.....
Un-rêve
08-24-2007, 03:45 PM
What comes to me and my problems, I have thanked everyone who has tried to help. But you just can't change a thing in my life. Your words do mean to me, but unfortunately, there's very little they can do in reality. They cannot alter the reality.
I feel you RMJ!
We might be your pals here but it's not the same as having a real friend you can talk to is it? Atleast you've got people here who care enough to give you advice though. I didn't have anyone care enough about me to help me through my tough time when I had a few problems, I guess that's why I wanted to help you in some way.
I've read your posts on other forums and I know your happy for Lili and what makes her happy is what's most important, that's how we all should feel and I hope we all do!
At the end of the day alot of us would give anything just to be Alizée's friend let alone her lover! Many of us here care more about Alizée than maybe some people in her own life actually do {I'm not talking about her family or friends just aquaintences} and we just want to show Alizée that love. True love is selfless love and I'm sure you can channel all of your positive feelings towards Lili in a good way.;)
RMJ, even though it may be uncomfortable, I wish you would open up about your problems, and tell us what is bothering you. We are all great listeners and we want think any less of you or make fun of you. I know you said our words can't help you, but that is because we don't know what exactly the problem is. If you don't want to to tell us what is troubling you then I completely understand, but just know that we are all willing to listen any time you feel like you need someone to talk to, or a shoulder to lean on. You don't have to walk this path alone, my friend.
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