Quotations (how to do)

[WyomingGrizFan]

Just a small question here, but how does one quote from another members previous posting? I used to be able to 'cut and paste' but that doesn't really contain the quoted statement in a box that I've seen others accomplishing. Thanks.

[dan]

Just a small question here, but how does one quote from another members previous posting? I used to be able to 'cut and paste' but that doesn't really contain the quoted statement in a box that I've seen others accomplishing. Thanks.

Just start your post by clicking on the Quote button inside the post you wish to quote from. You can then trim the quoted section in your post.

[RadioactiveMan]

You can also quote multiple people by pressing the "Multi - off" button on each post that you want to quote. They will all be quoted next time you click "Post Reply"

[rcs]

I must admit, I've learned more about PCs, software, and even the occasional website capabilities that exist out there. All thanks to this site. We have a wealth of experts here. I don't know how to run a site, but that's Brad's job.:p

[WyomingGrizFan]

Well, my first attempt at quoting according to the above directions seems to have came out all right. A lot easier than I thought it would be prior to my question. Thanks again. Really helped me out.

[marik]

NP! were here to help! everyone! :)

[Uméesha]

yeah, as RCS said that we have learned a lot from this forum! yeah he is right... btw this forum is user friendly and its very easy to control over it!
we are here to help the newbie's so any questions?:)

[marik]

Well, my first attempt at quoting according to the above directions seems to have came out all right. A lot easier than I thought it would be prior to my question. Thanks again. Really helped me out.

now why dont you try what you have learn? ;)to this site?
like quoting this post and reply! :)

[WyomingGrizFan]

now why dont you try what you have learn? ;)to this site?
like quoting this post and reply! :)


That's O.K. I'am still here. Still researching the accentuation procedures as well: ALT+XXXX as such. I can't understand that with the four-digit up to number nine yielding some 9,999 designations that they haven't progressed with the ASC-II system any further than they have. Like, why not have with the same system different alphabets like the Russian/Ukrainian, Arabic, Hindustani, etc. Seems like a perfectly easy format to utilize.

[marik]

That's O.K. I'am still here. Still researching the accentuation procedures as well: ALT+XXXX as such. I can't understand that with the four-digit up to number nine yielding some 9,999 designations that they haven't progressed with the ASC-II system any further than they have. Like, why not have with the same system different alphabets like the Russian/Ukrainian, Arabic, Hindustani, etc. Seems like a perfectly easy format to utilize.

ohh! like some letter éτΦτ9♀ }▐á4ÿ¡Σ∙6 like that?

[WyomingGrizFan]

Something like that, 'marik.' The Greek alphabet is somewhat covered, but I'll have to further review that. I think it's ALT+XXX and a series of numbers for it (what XXX stands for). Θ , or ALT+233 for the Greek letter 'theta' as such; Ω, or ALT+234 for 'omega;' δ, ALT+235 for lower-case 'delta;' σ, or ALT+229 for lower-case 'sigma,' if I remember correctly; etc., etc., etc.

I've just discovered this little technicality, contrivance or whatever, so I'll just have to continue on and see what else they have in store for me.

There is that difference though I've noticed. 'é' would be ALT+0233 while 'Θ' is a three digit variety ALT+233. Interesting.

[marik]

Something like that, 'marik.' The Greek alphabet is somewhat covered, but I'll have to further review that. I think it's ALT+XXX and a series of numbers for it (what XXX stands for). Θ , or ALT+233 for the Greek letter 'theta' as such; Ω, or ALT+234 for 'omega;' δ, ALT+235 for lower-case 'delta;' σ, or ALT+229 for lower-case 'omega,' if I remember correctly; etc., etc., etc.

I've just discovered this little technicality, contrivance or whatever, so I'll just have to continue on and see what else they have in store for me.

There is that difference though I've noticed. 'é' would be ALT+0233 while 'Θ' is a three digit variety ALT+233. Interesting.

i have some interesting keys i have learn for you! thanks! :) ΦT♥◘=ëíÄ}ì`§╚╩`┼╩◄╙ΦD}ïB&j⌠ hey is that good? its only a guess Alt+XXX or more! hehe! :)

[Rocket]

One thing I've found since I've been a member...I'm never without friends who can help me with a computer problem. :)

[Uméesha]

One thing I've found since I've been a member...I'm never without friends who can help me with a computer problem. :)

am there to help you rocket!:) what do u want, not only me ther are many experts in computer in this forum, they too will help you. we are fans of alizee, so you are a good friend to me:D

[WyomingGrizFan]

I think I like ALT+259 better.♥
I don't know if my old Astronomy teacher would appreciate incorporating it in any of the equational computations for charting a flight to Mars or Mercury...but maybe to Venus?
I am assuming that is what most of some of the Greek letterings are for but the lines: ╔╩╦╬╧╦ , etc. as made and put together look like something an architect would use. Whatever.

[Uméesha]

I think I like ALT+259 better.♥
I don't know if my old Astronomy teacher would appreciate incorporating it in any of the equational computations for charting a flight to Mars or Mercury...but maybe to Venus?
I am assuming that is what most of some of the Greek letterings are for but the lines: ╔╩╦╬╧╦ , etc. as made and put together look like something an architect would use. Whatever.

good exploration wyomingGrizfan,try out all the key by sticking up with Alt+(number 1 to 255).

[marik]

why dont you try this?

look and see :)


À = alt + 0192
Á = alt + 0193
 = alt + 0194
à = alt + 0195
Ä = alt + 0196
Å = alt + 0197
Æ = alt + 0198
Ç = alt + 0199
È = alt + 0200
É = alt + 0201
Ê = alt + 0202
Ë = alt + 0203
Ì = alt + 0204
Í = alt + 0205
Î = alt + 0206
Ï = alt + 0207
Ð = alt + 0208
Ñ = alt + 0209
Ò = alt + 0210
Ó = alt + 0211
Ô = alt + 0212
Õ = alt + 0213
Ö = alt + 0214
Ù = alt + 0217
Ú = alt + 0218
Û = alt + 0219
Ü = alt + 0220
Ý = alt + 0221
ß = alt + 0223
à = alt + 0224
á = alt + 0225
â = alt + 0226
ã = alt + 0227
ä = alt + 0228
å = alt + 0229
æ = alt + 0230
ç = alt + 0231
è = alt + 0232
é = alt + 0233
ê = alt + 0234
ë = alt + 0235
ì = alt + 0236
í = alt + 0237
î = alt + 0238
ï = alt + 0239
ñ = alt + 0241
ò = alt + 0242
ó = alt + 0243
ô = alt + 0244
õ = alt + 0245
ö = alt + 0246
ù = alt + 0249
ú = alt + 0250
û = alt + 0251
ü = alt + 0252
ý = alt + 0253

[WyomingGrizFan]

Now, if only I can memorize it all. Some of the codings help me on my Turkish, but not all of the letters are covered. I'am going to have to conduct further research it seems. Not much help on my Ukrainian either, darn, though the French and Spanish accentuation is there; one can always type a double 'l' for 'll' I guess.

'Via con dios.'

[marik]

Now, if only I can memorize it all. Some of the codings help me on my Turkish, but not all of the letters are covered. I'am going to have to conduct further research it seems. Not much help on my Ukrainian either, darn, though the French and Spanish accentuation is there; one can always type a double 'l' for 'll' I guess.

'Via con dios.'

ohh ok! sorry cant help anymore now:( since im not Ukrain or Turkish :(

[Edcognito]

You can also quote multiple people by pressing the "Multi - off" button on each post that you want to quote. They will all be quoted next time you click "Post Reply"

zomg - THANKS man - i've been wondering how to do that!

(shit, did i just thank ram? I must be slipping! :) ))


Ed:cool:

[SilentFox]

why dont you try this?

look and see :)


À = alt + 0192
Á = alt + 0193
 = alt + 0194
à = alt + 0195
Ä = alt + 0196
Å = alt + 0197
Æ = alt + 0198
Ç = alt + 0199
È = alt + 0200
É = alt + 0201
Ê = alt + 0202
Ë = alt + 0203
Ì = alt + 0204
Í = alt + 0205
Î = alt + 0206
Ï = alt + 0207
Ð = alt + 0208
Ñ = alt + 0209
Ò = alt + 0210
Ó = alt + 0211
Ô = alt + 0212
Õ = alt + 0213
Ö = alt + 0214
Ù = alt + 0217
Ú = alt + 0218
Û = alt + 0219
Ü = alt + 0220
Ý = alt + 0221
ß = alt + 0223
à = alt + 0224
á = alt + 0225
â = alt + 0226
ã = alt + 0227
ä = alt + 0228
å = alt + 0229
æ = alt + 0230
ç = alt + 0231
è = alt + 0232
é = alt + 0233
ê = alt + 0234
ë = alt + 0235
ì = alt + 0236
í = alt + 0237
î = alt + 0238
ï = alt + 0239
ñ = alt + 0241
ò = alt + 0242
ó = alt + 0243
ô = alt + 0244
õ = alt + 0245
ö = alt + 0246
ù = alt + 0249
ú = alt + 0250
û = alt + 0251
ü = alt + 0252
ý = alt + 0253

hey thanks marik theres a few letters that i dont know but now do thxs

[marik]

hey thanks marik theres a few letters that i dont know but now do thxs

np! you must thanks also Afrenchie! i got it in her post!

[Sir Wood]

This site has also been mentioned regarding the use of the ALT+ number combo: http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm.

As stated in the link, you use ALT+numberkeypad (meaning keep your NUM-LOCK on). ;)

[marik]

here's the Alt+4 digits
<table style="height: 509px; width: 692px;" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="119"><tt>¤ Alt+0164</tt>
<tt>† Alt+0134</tt>
<tt>× Alt+0215</tt>
<tt>÷ Alt+0247</tt>
<tt>¶ Alt+0182</tt>
<tt>‡ Alt+0135</tt>
<tt>± Alt+0177</tt>
<tt>— Alt+0151</tt>
<tt>– Alt+0150</tt>
<tt>§ Alt+0167</tt>
<tt>ˆ Alt+0136</tt>
<tt>˜ Alt+0152</tt>
<tt>« Alt+0171</tt>
<tt>» Alt+0187</tt>
<tt>¦ Alt+0166</tt>
<tt>‰ Alt+0137</tt>
<tt>© Alt+0169</tt>
<tt>® Alt+0174</tt>
<tt>™ Alt+0153</tt>
<hr size="5" width="90%">
<tt>á Alt+0225</tt>
<tt>à Alt+0224</tt>
<tt>â Alt+0226
</tt><tt>ä Alt+0228</tt>
<tt>å Alt+0229</tt>
<tt>Á Alt+0193</tt>
<tt>Ã Alt+0195</tt>

</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 119px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><tt>Ä Alt+0196</tt>
<tt>Å Alt+0197</tt>
<tt>À Alt+0192</tt>
<tt>Â Alt+0194</tt>
<tt>æ Alt+0230</tt>
<tt>Æ Alt+0198</tt>
<tt>ç Alt+0231</tt>
<tt>Ç Alt+0199</tt>
<tt>ê Alt+0234</tt>
<tt>é Alt+0233</tt>
<tt>ë Alt+0235</tt>
<tt>è Alt+0232</tt>
<tt>Ê Alt+0202</tt>
<tt>Ë Alt+0203</tt>
<tt>É Alt+0201</tt>
<tt>È Alt+0200</tt>
<tt>ï Alt+0239
</tt><tt>í Alt+0237</tt>
<tt>î Alt+0238</tt>
<tt>ì Alt+0236</tt>
<tt>Í Alt+0205</tt>
<tt>Ì Alt+0204</tt>
<tt>Î Alt+0206</tt>
<tt>Ï Alt+0207</tt>
<tt>ñ Alt+0241</tt>
<tt>Ñ Alt+0209</tt>
<tt>œ Alt+0156</tt>
<tt>ΠAlt+0140</tt>
</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="119"><tt>ô Alt+0244</tt>
<tt>ö Alt+0246</tt>
<tt>ò Alt+0242</tt>
<tt>õ Alt+0245</tt>
<tt>ó Alt+0243</tt>
<tt>ø Alt+0248</tt>
<tt>Ó Alt+0211</tt>
<tt>Ô Alt+0212</tt>
<tt>Õ Alt+0213</tt>
<tt>Ø Alt+0216</tt>
<tt>Ö Alt+0214
</tt><tt>Ò Alt+</tt>
<tt>š Alt+0154</tt>
<tt>Š Alt+0138</tt>
<tt>ú Alt+0250</tt>
<tt>ü Alt+0252</tt>
<tt>û Alt+0251</tt>
<tt>ù Alt+0249</tt>
<tt>Ù Alt+0217</tt>
<tt>Ú Alt+0218</tt>
<tt>Ü Alt+0220</tt>
<tt>Û Alt+0219</tt>
<tt>ÿ Alt+0255</tt>
<tt>Ÿ Alt+0159</tt>
<tt>ý Alt+0253</tt>
<tt>Ý Alt+0221</tt>
<tt>ž Alt+0158</tt>
<tt>Ž Alt+0142</tt> </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="119"><tt><big>ª</big> Alt+0170</tt> </td></tr></tbody></table>
and here's the Alt+3 digits!

<table style="width: 630px; height: 228px;" border="0" cols="3"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;"><tt>128 Ç </tt>
<tt>129 ü </tt>
<tt>130 é </tt>
<tt>131 â </tt>
<tt>132 ä </tt>
<tt>133 à </tt>
<tt>134 å</tt>
<tt>135 ç </tt>
<tt>136 ê </tt>
<tt>137 ë </tt>
<tt>138 è </tt>
<tt>139 ï </tt>
<tt>140 î
</tt></td> <td valign="top"> <tt>141 ì </tt>
<tt>142 Ä </tt>
<tt>143 Å </tt>
<tt>144 É </tt>
<tt>145 æ </tt>
<tt>146 Æ </tt>
<tt>147 ô </tt>
<tt>148 ö </tt>
<tt>149 ò </tt>
<tt>150 û </tt> <tt>(Greek letters and
math symbols are
between 224 and 247)</tt>
</td> <td valign="top"><tt>151 ù </tt>
<tt>152 ÿ </tt>
<tt>153 Ö </tt>
<tt>154 Ü </tt>
<tt>160 á </tt>
<tt>161 í </tt>
<tt>162 ó </tt>
<tt>163 ú </tt>
<tt>164 ñ </tt>
<tt>165 Ñ </tt>
<tt>167 º </tt>
<tt>168 ¿</tt>
<tt>248 °</tt>
<tt>250 · (smaller bullet)</tt></td></tr></tbody></table>

[marik]

<table style="height: 456px; width: 651px;" border="0" cols="4"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; height: 450px; width: 200px;"><tt style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">FRENCH</tt> <tt>133 à (0224) </tt>
<tt>131 â (0226) </tt>
<tt>135 ç (0231) </tt>
<tt>130 é (0233) </tt>
<tt>138 è (0232) </tt>
<tt>136 ê (0234) </tt>
<tt>137 ë (0235) </tt>
<tt>140 î (0238) </tt>
<tt>139 ï (0239) </tt>
<tt>oe ligature (0156) </tt>
<tt>147 ô (0244) </tt>
<tt>151 ù (0249) </tt>
<tt>150 û (0251) </tt>
<tt>183 À (0192) </tt>
<tt>182 Â (0194) </tt>
<tt>128 Ç (0199) </tt>
<tt>212 È (0200) </tt>
<tt>144 É (0201) </tt>
<tt>210 Ê (0202) </tt>
<tt>211 Ë (0203) </tt>
<tt>215 Î (0206) </tt>
<tt>216 Ï (0207) </tt>
<tt>OE ligature (0140)
</tt>


<tt>there! enjoy!
</tt>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; height: 450px; width: 170px;"><tt>SPANISH</tt> <tt>160 á (0225) </tt>
<tt>130 é (0233) </tt>
<tt>161 í (0237) </tt>
<tt>164 ñ (0241) </tt>
<tt>162 ó (0243) </tt>
<tt>163 ú (0250) </tt>
<tt>129 ü (0252) </tt>
<tt> Á (0193) </tt>
<tt>144 É (0201) </tt>
<tt> Í (0205) </tt>
<tt>165 Ñ (0209) </tt>
<tt> Ó (0211) </tt>
<tt> Ú (0218) </tt>
<tt>154 Ü (0220) </tt>
<tt>168 ¿ (0191) </tt>
<tt>173 ¡ (0161) </tt>
French Continued
<tt>226 Ô (0212) </tt>
<tt>235 Ù (0217) </tt>
<tt>234 Û (0219) </tt>
<tt>174 « (0171) </tt>
<tt>175 » (0187)</tt>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; height: 450px; width: 150px;"><tt>ITALIAN</tt> <tt>133 à (0224) </tt>
<tt>138 è (0232) </tt>
<tt>141 ì (0236) </tt>
<tt>149 ò (0242) </tt>
<tt>151 ù (0249) </tt>
<tt>183 À (0192) </tt>
<tt>212 È (0200) </tt>
<tt>Ì (0204) </tt>
<tt>Ò (0210) </tt>
<tt>Ù (0217)</tt>
<tt>PORTUGUESE</tt> <tt> ã (0227) </tt>
<tt> Ã (0195) </tt>
<tt>135 ç (0231) </tt>
<tt>128 Ç (0199)</tt>
<tt>149 ò (0242) </tt>
<tt> Ò (0210)</tt>
<tt>162 ó (0243) </tt>
<tt> Ó (0211) </tt>
<tt> õ (0245)</tt>
<tt> Õ (0213)</tt>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; height: 450px; width: 175px;">Polish (http://www.starr.net/is/type/imgt/polish-chart.gif)
<tt>
GERMAN/SCANDINAVIAN</tt> <tt>132 ä (0228) </tt>
<tt>134 å (0229) </tt>
<tt>145 æ (0230) </tt>
<tt> ð (0240) </tt>
<tt>137 ë (0235) </tt>
<tt>148 ö (0246) </tt>
<tt>155 ø (0248) </tt>
<tt>225 ß (0223) </tt>
<tt> þ (0254) </tt>
<tt>129 ü (0252) </tt>
<tt>152 ÿ (0255) </tt>
<tt>142 Ä (0196) </tt>
<tt>143 Å (0197) </tt>
<tt>146 Æ (0198) </tt>
<tt> Ð (0208) </tt>
<tt> Ë (0203) </tt>
<tt>153 Ö (0214) </tt>
<tt>157 Ø (0216) </tt>
<tt> Þ (0222) </tt>
<tt>154 Ü (0220)
</tt>
T (http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm#top)
</td></tr></tbody></table>

[rcs]

Marik, what is all this gibberish:blink:

These look like launch codes or something.

These are all quotation tips? JW bro. I do attempt to do only a fraction of these PC tips. I give everything the "5 sec try." If I can't figure it out in 5 sec, I leave it alone. LOLs, :o Please excuse my illiteracy. I really need to take some courses. Stay on this site Marik, I need you.:)

[marik]

Marik, what is all this gibberish:blink:

These look like launch codes or something.

These are all quotation tips? JW bro. I do attempt to do only a fraction of these PC tips. I give everything the "5 sec try." If I can't figure it out in 5 sec, I leave it alone. LOLs, :o Please excuse my illiteracy. I really need to take some courses. Stay on this site Marik, I need you.:)
that was all of the ALT+combo's rcs and @ this Stay on this site Marik, yeah ill stay here why ill leave this site? lol :) if you have questions were here to help ya :)

[rwd716]

Is there any way to do this on a laptop. Meaning--if you don't happen to have a num-pad handy :p

[marik]

Is there any way to do this on a laptop. Meaning--if you don't happen to have a num-pad handy :p

yes! it is! you can do it freely! :)

[rwd716]

Well I can't seem to do it on this laptop :(

[marik]

Well I can't seem to do it on this laptop :(

its the ALT+XXXX
like ALT+0233 = é
try it now!

[SilentFox]

np! you must thanks also Afrenchie! i got it in her post!

srry late on this to but thxs Afrenchie as well! :cool:

[rwd716]

its the ALT+XXXX
like ALT+0233 = é
try it now!


Uhh, that's a negative Ghost Rider. When I start typing the numbers after I hold alt it just sort of tabs around at the top. I think I'm left w/ copy/paste till my norm comp is up n runnin.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Is there any way to do this on a laptop. Meaning--if you don't happen to have a num-pad handy :p


Don't all keyboards for key strokes have a number pad immediately to the right?

Like in...

7-8-9
4-5-6
1-2-3
0

As long as I have those I find it quite easy to press ALT+XXXX, keeping the ALT key pressed down simultanously while applying the number code for the desired accentuation, sign, etc.

[heyamigo]

RWD, if you use the function key i think, most laptops have designated buttons that are numpad #s. it's usually a key next to Ctrl.

[WyomingGrizFan]

What boggles my mind is that they have a combination (ALT+0184) for a cedilla (¸) and I can't place it under a letter 'S' to make a cedilla-s like in the Turkish language similar to what can be resourced like the cedilla-c: ALT+0199 = Ç).

Why do they have a cedilla all by its little lonesome? It's not like I can use it for anything. I can't type a letter 'S' and then type a combination for the cedilla; it just doesn't work that way. At least, not as far as I know.

[rwd716]

RWD, if you use the function key i think, most laptops have designated buttons that are numpad #s. it's usually a key next to Ctrl.

WoW, attack of the killer brain fart! I've played around with using the arrows, but was too f'n retarded to see the numbers right beside em :( GG!

[marik]

well i dont much fammiliar with laptops! sometimes i use laptops but not anymore now because that laptop is from my father so my father was on Kuwait now :( i cant tell anymore about this topic :(

[Roman]

I have the pages from a table like http://asciiset.com/ taped to my wall. It's a little easier because there's only 3 numbers to type for each code. I'm not sure which is more universally accepted. Also, not sure if there is actually any difference between the two code sets. Someday, everything will process one unicode standard in a normalized manner and we'll have no more of this BS of é being changed into 3 weird characters or some programs not handling those characters at all ... yeah right!

[marik]

<b>
<big><big>ASCII characters 0 to 127</big></big></b>

Code 0 to 31 ( and # 127 ) are non-printing, mostly obsolete control characters
that affect how text is processed. There is 95 printable characters.

To print one, press the ALT key ( hold it down ) and type the decimal number. http://asciiset.com/asciitable.gif



<b><big><big>Extended ASCII</big></big></b>

There is many version of the extended ASCII set, this is the most popular one.

http://asciiset.com/extended.gif

there that should be understand now!

[Steven0022]

That really helps, thanks there marik. YOU'RE THE MAN!!!

[marik]

That really helps, thanks there marik. YOU'RE THE MAN!!!

hehe np! man!

[WyomingGrizFan]

"1234567890*-
qwertyuıopğü
asdfghjklşi
zxcvbnmöç.

Above is the keyboard for Turkish "Q" keyboard. Do not ask me how I did it either. Has something to do with a conversion factor that I am going to have to go over and try to explain to myself just how I did that. That may take a while since I do not know what I just did!!! Besides which it starts from first utilizing the "Start" then going over that panel that shows up. Whatever. Onwards and upwards.

But anyways there is a way!!!

There is a program that converts some of the keystrokes as one types them in. This from English into Turkish as shown above. Very similar except for about six letters as one may notice. Have to get used to it. No commas and instead of a slash-question mark I get a "." Instead of a semi-colon I get a "ş."

I thought I would try something simple. Hence the Turkish alphabet. Next stop I think I will try the Ukrainian with a completely dıfferent alphabet. Hope I do not get lost!!!

[WyomingGrizFan]

ASSDFFGGassddfghj!!'^+%+%&/!!'^^++é'^^++%%

[marik]

ASSDFFGGassddfghj!!'^+%+%&/!!'^^++é'^^++%%

how to use that Wyoming?

:blink:

[WyomingGrizFan]

Ooops!!! I did not mean that really I did not. I do not know what got into me.

Actually, I was using this space provided in order to test something that went wrong on some of my entries on another site. Had to almost throw the computer out the window on that one!!!... in order to get it running again!!! Like in, my inadvertently holding the Shift Key down for over five seconds and a tiny little box shows up saying I blew it. I guess I made an entry without knowing it, sorry about that. Still trying to work out the bugs as such: still can not work without an apostrophe too well it seems. Boy, I better work on this!!!

Best regards.

P.S. - Something took place that prevented me from typing in numbers and capital letters but I finally got it worked out. Thanks again.

[marik]

Ooops!!! I did not mean that really I did not. I do not know what got into me.

Actually, I was using this space provided in order to test something that went wrong on some of my entries on another site. Had to almost throw the computer out the window on that one!!!... in order to get it running again!!! Like in, my inadvertently holding the Shift Key down for over five seconds and a tiny little box shows up saying I blew it. I guess I made an entry without knowing it, sorry about that. Still trying to work out the bugs as such: still can not work without an apostrophe too well it seems. Boy, I better work on this!!!

Best regards.

P.S. - Something took place that prevented me from typing in numbers and capital letters but I finally got it worked out. Thanks again.

i think its the sticky something i forgot what was called it but it has a sticky name on it! when you hold or press the shift 5 times

[WyomingGrizFan]

I think you are correct on that assessment there "marik." I guess I was taking too long on looking over my actual keyboard and checking out what letter it was supposed to have been since I had converted to the Turkish "Q" keyboard. Trying to find what key stroke would deliver an "ş" so to speak from a printed sheet. Took too much time evidently and the darn thing blew up on me!!!! I feel like a mad scientist in a laboratory!!!!

Oh well. Got it back to working again and that is the main thing I guess. I am definitely going to have to get better on this if I plan on converting to an Ukrainian keyboard!!! Just have to remind myself to convert back to the English keyboard otherwise I would get ç and ı and ğ and ü and ö. And I always get a ç when I tab for an English period. Amazing what people can come up with for a toy, this computer stuff.

[WyomingGrizFan]

I suppose it would have been a lot easier if I had just scanned the Forum and found the thread that 'Supakrupa' started back in March. A lot of good postings therein that helped me out on the ALT+XXX and the links provided as well as the present one.

I came across this site:
http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/keyboards/winkey.html

...and used it, along with asking a few questions with some people I know that have a vocational career in Computer Science and combining the information together I subsequently was able to convert my key stroke to the Turkish 'Q' Keyboard. Like in doing so I had to...

1.a.) Go to that little green box in the left hand corner and tab 'start' → whatever that panel is officially called and tab 'Control Panel' → 1.b.)Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options → 1.c.)(under Control Panel Icon) tab 'Regional and Language Options; box should show up titled 'Regional and Language Options) wherein I have discovered about 116 different languages/dialects ranging from English to six types of French, Greek, Indonesian, Northern Sotho (?), Russian, 19 types of Spanish, Turkish, Ukrainian & Welsh to choose from; pick the one I want then tab 'Languages' above then another box shows up called 'Regional and Language Options' and I tab the box with the word 'Details' within it.
→ if I haven't missed anything up to this point all well and good I guess, then 1.d.) another box shows up entitled 'Text Services and Input Languages' wherein I tab the word 'Add' that lurks in another little box somewhere → 1.e.)...another box entitled 'Add Input Language' shows up & I tab O.K. & then something like tab the 'Language Bar...'→ 1.f.) then another O.K. in a box under the title of 'Text Services and Input Languages' → then I just tab O.K. whenever it shows up I guess → back to box 'Text Services and Input Languages' for another tab on an O.K. → 1.g.) box entitled 'Regional and Language Options' for another O.K. That should do it!!!
2.a.) The coup d'état is then to 'shut down' and re-boot the computer afterwards. Then turn the computer back on and then I'am supposedly in business using the desired language keyboard previously selected, as I previously did with the Turkish 'Q' keyboard. [I just have to 'google' the keyboard layout, print a copy so I don't get too confused and go from there]. Interesting.

If anyone tries to follow those above directions I wish ya luck!!!! I triple-checked it out but I still more than likely missed something; or otherwise, someone's computer system might be different. Gawd if I know what I'am using.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Just my luck. I must have missed something. Now I'am back to English, at least I got that part correct, tried to switch to the Ukrainian keyboard but I can't duplicate the procedure somehow. Oh well, back to the drawing board I guess.

I think I'll go back and read the instructions. If all else fails etc. etc. etc.

[WyomingGrizFan]

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[WyomingGrizFan]

Don't ask me how I did that!!!! But I'am back to English again. This is worse than a jig-saw puzzle!!!

P.S.- All that information on the ALT+XXX really helped once I was on the Ukrainian keyboard. Couldn't quite key stroke 'Alizée' in the Ukrainian letters and have it come up as 'Alizée' I guess. Had to go to 'Google' and type in the ALT+XXX sequence for her name (ALT+065, +108, +105, +122, +101, +101 again since the ALT+0233 didn't work for the 'é' somehow); then I got onto this site and typed in the keyboard of the Ukrainian letters above.
Well, it is an interesting discovery none the less. If one wishes to pursue this there is a 'somehow or another' procedure I miss but others may probably find it easier as they work on it. Something I miss on the language selection and its proper inclusion in the required sequence of 'Add's' and 'O.K.'s' I've seemed to miss at times.

Whew!!! That's enough discovering for this night time. I'am off to watch some videos.

[marik]

i think WyomingGrizFan! that all helps a lot! thankyou! preety good! you do good work! scanning a forum sometimes is just something you are finding a piece of cake lol

hehe!

[WyomingGrizFan]

On the Ukrainian keyboard I find this:...when I use

ALT + XXXX

+ 0387 = ѓ
+ 0388 = „
+ 0389 = …
+ 0391 = ‡
+ 0392 = €
+ 0393 = ‰
+ 0394 = Љ
+ 0395 = ‹
+ 0396 = Њ
+ 0397 = Ќ
+ 0398 = Ћ
+ 0399 = Џ
+ 0400 = ђ
+ 0410 = љ
+ 0421 = Ґ
+ 0424 = Ё
+ 0426 = Є
+ 0431 = Ї
+ 0436 = ґ
+ 0447 = ї
+ 0449 = Б
+ 0451 = Г
+ 0452 = Д
+ 0454 = Ж
+ 0455 = З
+ 0456 = И
+ 0457 = Й
+ 0458 = К
+ 0468 = Ф
+ 0470 = Ц
+ 0502 = ц

...interesting.

[marik]

hey! instersting Wyoming! that great! i wonder how the s in ukrain is...
ike an s in french :)

thanks for shring that! :)

[SilentFox]

Ya thats pretty cool there WyomingGrizFan!

[WyomingGrizFan]

As far as I know there is no 's' per se in the Ukrainian language, not shaped like the English/Spanish/French letter graphically. The letter 'c' serves that function as it is pronounced similar to the English 's' though. There is a letter in the Russian, I think, though not absolutely certain, but it is shaped like a backwards English letter 's,' but I don't know how it would be pronounced.

[WyomingGrizFan]

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ALT+XXX
+321 = A
+332 = L
+340 = T

ALT+321 = A
+108 = l
+105 = i
+122 = z
+101 = e
+101 = e

+0445 = Ѕ
+0446 = ѕ
+0475 =Ы
+0477 = Э

+0387 = ѓ
+0388 = „
+0389 = …
+0391 = ‡
+0392 = €
+0393 = ‰
+0394 = Љ
+0395 = ‹
+0396 = Њ
+0906 = Љ
+0908 = Њ
+0447 = ї
+0441 = №
+0435 = і
+0434 = І
+0426 = Є
+420 = ñ
+421 = Ñ
+422 = ª
+423 = º
+424 = ¿
+430 = «
+431 = »
+480 = α
+481 = ß
+490 = Ω
+485 = σ
+488 = Φ
+491 = δ
+503 = ≈
+502 = ÷
+515 = ♥
+523 = ♂
+524 = ♀
+577 = A
+578 = B
+579 = C
+586 = J
+419 = ú
+418 = ó
+416 = á
+415 = ƒ
+414 = ₧
+413 = ¥
+412 = £
+411 = ¢
+410 = Ü
+408 = ÿ
+404 = ö
+402 = Æ
+400 = É
+399 = Å
+395 = ï
+394 = è
+391 = ç
+390 = å
+386 = é
+387 = â
+385 = ü
+378 = z
+377 = y
+376 = x
+353 = a
+354 = b
+355 = c
+427 = ½
+428 = ¼
+0509 = э
+0510 = ю
+0548 = $

[WyomingGrizFan]

Interestingly, when I use the ALT+XXX & ALT+XXXX system on the Russian keyboard I can type in English, both upper and lower case letters, and also utilize the Spanish, Scandinavian and French accentuations with pronunciation marks, but I can't on my English keyboard access the Russian alphabet.

[SilentFox]

Thats pretty cool knowing that you can type English on a Russian keyboard there WyomingGrizFan

[fsquared]

You're on XP, right WyomingGrizFan?
Once you set up multiple languages, you shouldn't have to reboot to switch. In fact, you should be able to put a "Language Bar" on your toolbar, which has a little box with 2-letter codes for each language that you have installed, and it will default to "EN", and then you can click on it and select whatever language you want. This is done on a window-by-window basis (and is sometimes a little bit flakey but if you have the window you want to change on top, then you select the language, then it changes for just that window).

Now, one big help for figuring out where the keys are is the "On-Screen Keyboard" under Start Menu->Accessories->Accessibility. It pops up and tells you exactly what each key does. Note that it takes on the language of whatever window is in focus, so you need to focus on a different window, change the language there, and then click on the On-Screen Keyboard.


BTW there's no backwards "s" in Cyrillic, but there is something that looks like a backwards "R" and it is pronounced "ya".

[WyomingGrizFan]

I think I am on, what you say, 'XP.' At least, the 'Microsoft Windows 'XP' Professional,' if I am reading that correctly. I've never had any scholastic training per se upon any of this so most, if not all, is a lot of trial by error. I did have a fellow worker helping me out, taking photos and making an avatar, etc., who worked over in Moscow back in the nineties as an engineer when the American Embassy was found to have been 'bugged' somewhat, but he transferred to Arizona. And you're right, at first I thought it required a reboot, but now I know all I have to do is shut down then log on again when I change to a different language; like in what I've being doing with the Turkish, Ukrainian and the Russian.

I am going to have to look for that "On-screen Keyboard" since you mentioned it. Up to now what I've done is scour google for a format and printed a copy, which works well enough, but added info helps, especially if I ever find myself on a computer without a printer. Also have noticed that the Bulgarian alphabet is very similar to the Ukrainian/Russian, though there are some subtle differences; an 'i' in the Ukrainian but not in the Russian, etc. I have a couple textbooks that I have been studying, both in the Turkish and the Ukrainian; the hand written Ukrainian is another story as well, compared to the block sans-serif as such. I don't know if I'll ever visit that region but I wouldn't mind a couple weeks of attending some rock concerts in Istanbul; they have some excellent musicians and singers.

[fsquared]

Yeah, you're on XP. Here's a Microsoft link.
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/xpintlsupp.mspx#E4
About 2/3 of the way down, it talks about the language bar and how to switch languages. You don't even have to log out; you just have to select a different language (on a per-window basis).
The On-Screen Keyboard should be installed by default in the location that I indicated in my previous message.
Yes, the various incarnations of Cyrillic have been tweaked for the different languages. And yes, handwritten Cyrillic is another thing to get used to (I find the "t"s particularly difficult because they look just like "m"s).

Turkish music is indeed very interesting. I've spent a lot of time listening to Bulgarian pop-folk, a lot of which is derived from Turkish music.

[WyomingGrizFan]

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That helps a lot, 'fsquared.' I tried it with the Greek alphabet for a change, somewhat familiar with it alphabetically though not too much on the vocabulary, but I still find I have to 'log off' in order to implement the 'language bar.' Interestingly, the Greek keyboard had an 'EL' on the systems tray.

With the information & links you've given me I shouldn't have too much trouble switching keyboards. It's the learning the languages that'll take a little bit more time I think.

I noticed also, like in the Ukrainian, their letter in Cyrillic that in transcription is a 'd' is in the cursive as a 'g' (like your 't' to an 'm'). Learning the block letters, actually, the non-sans-serif, I guess, is one thing, but the handwritten threw me at first. On my first CDs by Ani Lorak I thought they were misprints. Now I know better.

Thanks again.

[fsquared]

That helps a lot, 'fsquared.' I tried it with the Greek alphabet for a change, somewhat familiar with it alphabetically though not too much on the vocabulary, but I still find I have to 'log off' in order to implement the 'language bar.' Interestingly, the Greek keyboard had an 'EL' on the systems tray.

With the information & links you've given me I shouldn't have too much trouble switching keyboards. It's the learning the languages that'll take a little bit more time I think.

I noticed also, like in the Ukrainian, their letter in Cyrillic that in transcription is a 'd' is in the cursive as a 'g' (like your 't' to an 'm'). Learning the block letters, actually, the non-sans-serif, I guess, is one thing, but the handwritten threw me at first. On my first CDs by Ani Lorak I thought they were misprints. Now I know better.

Thanks again.
You really shouldn't have to log out to use the little language toolbar. When you click on it, it should give you choices (English, Turkish, etc.) and you should be able to select on and change the language right there. You have to have a window open and up front when doing that, and it changes the language for just that window (e.g., your browser, or Word, or etc.)

I presume "EL" is for something like "Ellenika" (the Greek word for Greek).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language

Yeah, that d-g one is a little tricky too...I guess it's because we're so programmed with English cursive that it's hard to break out. Also the Cyrillic cursive "t" and the "sh" are so close that people have to draw a line below for "sh" and above for "t" to tell them apart.

[marik]

well Wyoming GrizFan and fsquared! your knowledge is good for Computers! thanks to all of this info's!

[WyomingGrizFan]

Well, if any of it is useful for your future endeavors, all well and good. I've learned quite a lot the last couple weeks myself.

[marik]

Well, if any of it is useful for your future endeavors, all well and good. I've learned quite a lot the last couple weeks myself.

well your knowledge in Computers shortcut keys is preety awesome! so i am verythankfull to you!

[SilentFox]

Well, if any of it is useful for your future endeavors, all well and good. I've learned quite a lot the last couple weeks myself.

Well if i need any help with new alt keys il go to you first

[marik]

Well if i need any help with new alt keys il go to you first

well me too:) as you said:):P