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Bill Seals
12-15-2007, 04:25 PM
Does anyone have any knowledge on what our girl believes in?
I do recall remembering that she is very superstitious and believes in reincarnation. This has been on my mind as I had a dream last night of lili singing a hymnal in my church(the most beautiful thing ever sang, of course). Anyway, if anyone has any knowledge, I would be grateful.


Btw, I even got a kiss in this dream:wub::wub::wub:

ajaccio corsica
12-15-2007, 05:21 PM
hi
corsicans are very superstitious, they believe in charms and stuff
actually just like many mediterranean cultures
there's a book called contes et légendes de corse about those legends, I suppose it's also available in english
it's more or less like ireland, ppl are roman catholic but they believe in supernatural
cheers

Ange
12-15-2007, 05:33 PM
All I know is that she is supersitious and that I have become some what too. She never likes thinking about the future because she doesn't know what will happen but maybe someday she will speak of if she believes in a higher power.

Deepwaters
12-15-2007, 05:55 PM
There was an interview where she spoke about things like this, but it was years ago. Comparing my own thoughts at age 18 to those I held in my 20s, there was quite a lot of difference.

Some things don't change, though. If one is sensitive to magic, that endures, and so it is impossible to doubt its reality, one just becomes more sophisticated in how one thinks of it. That she recently referred to her Tinkerbell tattoo as her "guardian angel" says a lot to me, both in how she views the world, and how whimsical she can be about it. (I mean, fairies yes, but Tinkerbell? I love it!) :D

In terms of religion she's nominally a Catholic, but many of her ideas would probably not win the Pope's approval. Especially not this Pope. :rolleyes: I see her as pagan at heart.

ajaccio corsica
12-15-2007, 06:02 PM
hi
ppl never talk about the future, they don't say "happy new year" on new year's day, they say pace e saluta "peace and health"
it's linked to the history of the country, many wars, epidemies etc...
my grand mother, rip, was like that, always saying things like: "grazi'a Diu sè in piena forma oghje" or god bless you etc...
it's a mediterranean culture, just like arabs who say inch'allah all the time
locals end their sentences with "grazi' a diu" or "se diu vole", kinda it's up to god to decide if things shall be good or bad
they say this to feel protected against curses
cheers

lefty12357
12-15-2007, 06:43 PM
Thanks AC. I think from now on I'm going to close my comments on her myspace page with "Peace and Health".

DirtyACE
12-15-2007, 08:58 PM
Thanks for the interesting insight on Corsican culture AC. I think people of the older generations are especially this way.

Cooney
12-15-2007, 10:03 PM
Thanks for the tips AC.

The one interview I know of where she spoke about these things, she said she was a non-practicing Catholic, officially, like many French. She did Communion and Catechism, but doesn't go to church or actively believe the dogma. I think she said she believes in a higher power, though not necessarily any of the ones defined by a religion.

I'll see if I can dig out the article when I get home tonight, it was a blurb in some teen-zine called "do you believe?" and covered everything from gods to wrinkle creams.

Bill Seals
12-15-2007, 10:38 PM
Thanks for all the info guys. :D

Deepwaters
12-15-2007, 11:57 PM
I'll see if I can dig out the article when I get home tonight, it was a blurb in some teen-zine called "do you believe?" and covered everything from gods to wrinkle creams.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t7/briandrush/fande011wj5.jpg


As I said, it's several years old. She's older and may think differently about some of this.

I thought the séance story was amusing, with the cleaning lady bursting in on them and freaking out, and the glass they broke that was her friend's mother's wedding gift and very valuable. (Oops!)

I'd love to hear what the spirits told her that was so "incompréhensibles"! :D

OGRE
12-16-2007, 12:48 AM
hi
corsicans are very superstitious, they believe in charms


And that they should, considering the charm that hails from their midst.
:wub:

Cooney
12-16-2007, 12:59 AM
That's the one Deep, thanks. She's somewhere around her 19th birthday for this, though I'm not sure which side of it

Ok, running loosely without my dictionary:


Do you believe in extraterrestrials?

Yes, but I don't thin they're like ET. I don't see them as having a head and arms, like we always see in the movies or in cartoons. They've gotta look like Barbapoppa (a cartoon alien shaped like a blob). I think they're probably friendly. As far as their language, they'd speak in ultrasonic tones, like dolphins or like the aliens in the film "Mars Attacks." I'd love to meet extraterrestrials, but up til now, I never have met the third kind.


Do you believe in spirits?

I believe in spirits. I did a séance with my friends a couple years ago. We set ourselves up in a room. A spirit manifested itself and communicated with us through a glass that it would move about like letters of the alphabet. We'd ask it questions. It's responses were sometimes completely incomprehensible! When the cleaning lady came in, she freaked out. She immediately figured out with were invoking spirits. After the seance, we broke the glass we were using in a cemetary. Unfortunately, it was a wedding present given to my friend's mother! That in and of itself is a story, as it was quite valuable!


You weren't afraid?

A little bit, but I was reassured because my friends were with me.


Do you believe the stories in Voici?

No. I don't believe them. A Voici journalist wrote that I was dating Oliver, my manager, which is false! I imagine that what they write about other stars is just as bad.


Do you believe in astrology?

I've come to. I read my horoscope, but I don't really think about it. It doesn't influence my daily activities, even if it turns out completely accurate.


Do you believe in God?

Yes, I think there's a higher power, but I don't practice a religion. I did my communion, I went to catechism, but I don't say my prayers each night!


Do you believe in yourself?

No. Above all I'd say I still lack confidence in myself. After I come off stage from recording a TV program, I'm never happy with my performance, even if my entourage tells me it was good. I don't like seeing myself on TV, but I make myself do so to learn from it.


Do you believe you soon find a lover?

Yes, I hope so, because I don't always have one!


Do you believe in the end of the world?

Yes and no. I prefer not to think about it, really.


Do you believe in the power of anti-wrinkle creams?

Yes. Those creams don't get rid of wrinkles, but they slow their appearance.


Do you believe in reincarnation?

Yes. I don't know anything about my past lives, but I'd like to be reincarnated as a boy. I don't know why, but sometimes, I react like a guy.


Do you believe in a comeback for WhatFor?

Of course! We promise success and marvels to all reality-television participants, and many are disappointed. To be successful on TV isn't always a gauge of success. That said, I hope for their sake that they will succeed upon their return to the stage.


Do you believe in love at first site?

Yes, it happened to me a couple years ago at school. I'd crossed paths with a boy I really liked, but I never dared approach him. He also took note of me, it seems. One day, we ran into each other by chance, and swear, something just happened between us. Therefore, I believe in love at first site!


Do you believe in hypnosis?

No, not at all. I may try it out of curiosity, but right now, I don't believe in it.


Do you believe the proverb "money can't buy happiness?"

That depends, because with money, one can make many people happy. Even if one is in good health and your friends love you, life can be difficult without money. Because of that, it's hard to say money can't buy happiness. It does, a little bit!


Do you believe you are loved for who you are, or because you are famous?

Both. I found out for myself very fast that it's not always the same around others since I became famous, but it doesn't bother me too much.


Do you believe that Lorie and Billy Crawford will be married by the end of the year?

Within the year? They don't have much time left. No, I don't think so, maybe next year! Yes, I hope they'll get married in 2004. I wish it for them, in any case!


Do you believe Star Academy Season 3 will be a success?

Yes, why? I'll happily go sing upon their stage, but I don't see myself going there.

DirtyACE
12-16-2007, 01:23 AM
Thanks for the translation Cooney. Haven't seen that article. I'm kind of behind on some of the older stuff still.

lefty12357
12-16-2007, 01:30 AM
hi
ppl never talk about the future, they don't say "happy new year" on new year's day, they say pace e saluta "peace and health"


ajaccio corsica, I've seen "pace è salute" and "paci è saluta" on the internet. What is the difference between the two or do they mean the same thing?

Rev
12-16-2007, 01:34 AM
Thanks Deepwaters. And thanks Cooney for the translation. Very interesting reading.

Deepwaters
12-16-2007, 02:16 AM
Cooney, not bad, just a couple of corrections.

In the séance story, she said the things the spirits said were sometimes (parfois) incomprehensible.

Regarding reincarnation, she said, "I don't know why, but sometimes I respond like a guy."

OGRE
12-16-2007, 02:23 AM
Regarding reincarnation, she said, "I don't know why, but sometimes I respond like a guy."

Alizé, is that you?
:blink:

ajaccio corsica
12-16-2007, 03:27 AM
ajaccio corsica, I've seen "pace è salute" and "paci è saluta" on the internet. What is the difference between the two or do they mean the same thing?

hi
it's the same stuff, there are little differences between northern and southern languages
ppl write paci è saluta in the south
same for grandfather or grandmother: mamone and babbone in the north, missiau and minana in the south, kids say mina'
dog: north cane south ghjacaru, cheese: north formaghju south casgiu linked to latin caseus
some pronounciations are different, southerners say "dd" for "ll"
porti pollu is also written porti poddu
city of bastia: locals would pronounce bashtee'a southerners basstee'a
corsican is pretty easy to learn but difficult to write like many other old languages
cheers

Deepwaters
12-16-2007, 10:55 AM
Alizé, is that you?
:blink:

Dude, now you're really stretchin'.

LOL no. Sorry. ;)

Cooney
12-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Cooney, not bad, just a couple of corrections.

In the séance story, she said the things the spirits said were sometimes (parfois) incomprehensible.

Regarding reincarnation, she said, "I don't know why, but sometimes I respond like a guy."

Oops on the seane, missed "sometimes" for some reason :-P

On reincarnation, I'm actually getting "React" rather than "respond" for reagir. Definitely different than what I had though - fixed.

fsquared
12-16-2007, 04:42 PM
Oops on the seane, missed "sometimes" for some reason :-P

On reincarnation, I'm actually getting "React" rather than "respond" for reagir. Definitely different than what I had though - fixed.

As usual, one has to look at the spectrum of actions for which the word is applied. Clearly "react" and "respond" have a lot of overlap, but presumably are applied in slightly different ways....
I tried to generate a characterization of the connotation differences but I couldn't actually nail it down very well. The two axes I was thinking of were "the nature of what is being responded/reacted to" (e.g., whether it is an action directed toward the person, or just a situation) and "the nature of the reaction/response" (e.g., whether it is a conscious act vs. a reflex, and what kind it is, say written/verbal/physical).

But in any case, maybe "reagir" spans a certain subset in between the two.

Cooney
12-16-2007, 08:15 PM
As usual, one has to look at the spectrum of actions for which the word is applied. Clearly "react" and "respond" have a lot of overlap, but presumably are applied in slightly different ways....
I tried to generate a characterization of the connotation differences but I couldn't actually nail it down very well. The two axes I was thinking of were "the nature of what is being responded/reacted to" (e.g., whether it is an action directed toward the person, or just a situation) and "the nature of the reaction/response" (e.g., whether it is a conscious act vs. a reflex, and what kind it is, say written/verbal/physical).

But in any case, maybe "reagir" spans a certain subset in between the two.


Err... yeah, that's probably true. I was simply referring to what my verb book says:

Respond: Répondre
React: Réagir

I'll leave the rest to the philosophers :-P

Deepwaters
12-16-2007, 08:25 PM
I think "react" is a better choice of word there. I was simply pointing out that she said she responded/reacted like a guy sometimes, not that she wanted to be one.

espire
12-16-2007, 08:39 PM
Definitely not a matter of wanting to be a guy, that's out of the question. The real problem here is that both react and respond fit perfectly in that sentence. However, because reagir overlaps, we can't be sure of which one really fits.

Of course, mooting all that, I have to go with react as well, because a response is part of a reaction, while a reaction is not part of a response.

Cooney
12-16-2007, 09:40 PM
Thing is, she does (or at least, did) want to come back as a guy as well :-P

The sentence "mais j'aimerais bien me réincarner en garçon" is "I would really like to be reincarnated as a boy." The one we changed is the next one after that.

Roman
12-22-2007, 04:59 PM
Trippy. Thanks for the info guys. I'm sure there are tons of this sort of thing that I've never seen.
It's funny, the one thing she says she doesn't believe in is hypnotism. Someone once hypnotized me out of having the hiccups. That's what I call it anyway. It took about 15 seconds and instantly gone. Sounds funny, but after reading and hearing so many stories of all kinds of bizzare things, I must be skeptical; so, I have only my experience here to convince me.
That was also a good answer to the money doesn't buy happiness. I think people sometimes loose sight of the point of that saying. It's like saying that no matter how wealthy you are and no matter how much money you spend, you can still be unhappy. Certainly one needs money to be happy though. Going to see Alizée made me very happy at the time and continues to contribute to a sense of a fulfilled life. I could not have done that without plenty of money. Anyway, I'm belaboring the point. Good day.

heyamigo
12-22-2007, 05:28 PM
one thing to keep in mind is how people's views on things change especially in their teenage-young adult years. i don't think we should go back to interviews of years past and assume she still holds values and opinions on things like spirituality the same as she does now. i know i have changed so much from that age that i would probably laugh and not believe half the things i believed in back then. plus we'll never know with the old interviews how much of it was more answers fed by mylene to alizee since mylene had placed strict restrictions on all of alizee's interviews.