Alizée concert back in 2000-2004

[Lindgren]

on Wikipedia it says that alizée did 43 concerts total back in 2000-2004 .. first i was like :O ?? 43concerts in 4 years? noway!, and i have had this on my mind for so long now :( .. but maybe wikipedia counts those one song performance ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM ) as a concert? .. its maybe nothing to start a thread about but .. :wub:

[INDUSTRIAL]

I do not think Wiki is that stupid. If they counted one song performances on TV as well, it would have been few hundreds.
To an international star, 43 in 4 years is not a large number, if not small. Many stars have dozens of large concerts in just one tour.

[Just a Guest]

She did them between aug. 26 2003 and jan. 17 2004.

[Lindgren]

true .. dont know why i got stuck on it though :(

[knight]

Industrial is right 43 is not a huge number. 4 yrs have 4*365=1460days making a concert per 34 days that is not a busy schedule.
After these hectic mathematical calculations i pass the verdict that industrial is 50+50=100% right.
You see how hard I had to work to post this reply in comparison to 43 concerts in 4 years.lolz

[Just a Guest]

Industrial is right 43 is not a huge number. 4 yrs have 4*365=1460days making a concert per 34 days that is not a busy schedule.
After these hectic mathematical calculations i pass the verdict that industrial is 50+50=100% right.
You see how hard I had to work to post this reply in comparison to 43 concerts in 4 years.lolz
This changes your mind...:eek:

Mardi 26 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mercredi 27 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Samedi 30 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Dimanche 31 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mardi 2 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mercredi 3 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Jeudi 4 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Vendredi 10 octobre 2003 Le Zénith ROUEN
Samedi 11 octobre 2003 Le Zénith Arena LILLE
Dimanche 12 octobre 2003 Forest National BRUXELLES
Mardi 14 octobre 2003 Galaxie AMNÉVILLE
Vendredi 17 Octobre 2003 Palais des Sports LIMOGES
Samedi 18 octobre 2003 Le Zénith PAU
Dimanche 19 octobre 2003 Le Zénith TOULOUSE
Mardi 21 octobre 2003 Le Dôme MARSEILLE
Vendredi 24 octobre 2003 Zénith Oméga TOULON
Samedi 25 octobre 2003 Palais Nikaia NICE
Dimanche 26 octobre 2003 Zénith Sud MONTPELLIER
Mardi 11 novembre 2003 Aréna GENÈVE
Vendredi 14 novembre 2003 Le Zénith CAEN
Samedi 15 novembre 2003 Antares LE MANS
Dimanche 16 novembre 203 Le Zénith ORLÉANS
Mardi 18 novembre 2003 Parc des Expositions TOURS
Vendredi 21 nov. 2003 Palais des Spectacles ST ETIENNE
Samedi 22 novembre 2003 Summum GRENOBLE
Dimanche 23 novembre 2003 Halle Tony Garnier LYON
Mardi 25 novembre 2003 Halle olympique ALBERTVILLE
Vendredi 28 novembre 2003 Micropolis BESANÇON
Samedi 29 novembre 2003 Rhénus STRASBOURG
Dimanche 30 novembre 2003 Parc des Expositions MULHOUSE
Mardi 2 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions DIJON
Vendredi 5 décembre 2003 Le Zénith NANCY-MAXEVILLE
Samedi 6 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions CHALON S/SAONE
Dimanche 7 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions CLERMONT-FERRAND
Mardi 9 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions PÉRIGUEUX
Vendredi 12 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LANGOLVAS-MORLAIX
Samedi 13 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LORIENT-LANESTER
Dimanche 14 décembre 2003 Docks Océane LE HAVRE
Mardi 16 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LA ROCHELLE
Vendredi 19 décembre 2003 Elispace BEAUVAIS
Samedi 20 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions REIMS
Samedi 17 janvier 2004 Le Zénith PARIS

[INDUSTRIAL]

This changes your mind...:eek:

Mardi 26 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mercredi 27 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Samedi 30 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Dimanche 31 août 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mardi 2 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Mercredi 3 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Jeudi 4 septembre 2003 OLYMPIA PARIS
Vendredi 10 octobre 2003 Le Zénith ROUEN
Samedi 11 octobre 2003 Le Zénith Arena LILLE
Dimanche 12 octobre 2003 Forest National BRUXELLES
Mardi 14 octobre 2003 Galaxie AMNÉVILLE
Vendredi 17 Octobre 2003 Palais des Sports LIMOGES
Samedi 18 octobre 2003 Le Zénith PAU
Dimanche 19 octobre 2003 Le Zénith TOULOUSE
Mardi 21 octobre 2003 Le Dôme MARSEILLE
Vendredi 24 octobre 2003 Zénith Oméga TOULON
Samedi 25 octobre 2003 Palais Nikaia NICE
Dimanche 26 octobre 2003 Zénith Sud MONTPELLIER
Mardi 11 novembre 2003 Aréna GENÈVE
Vendredi 14 novembre 2003 Le Zénith CAEN
Samedi 15 novembre 2003 Antares LE MANS
Dimanche 16 novembre 203 Le Zénith ORLÉANS
Mardi 18 novembre 2003 Parc des Expositions TOURS
Vendredi 21 nov. 2003 Palais des Spectacles ST ETIENNE
Samedi 22 novembre 2003 Summum GRENOBLE
Dimanche 23 novembre 2003 Halle Tony Garnier LYON
Mardi 25 novembre 2003 Halle olympique ALBERTVILLE
Vendredi 28 novembre 2003 Micropolis BESANÇON
Samedi 29 novembre 2003 Rhénus STRASBOURG
Dimanche 30 novembre 2003 Parc des Expositions MULHOUSE
Mardi 2 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions DIJON
Vendredi 5 décembre 2003 Le Zénith NANCY-MAXEVILLE
Samedi 6 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions CHALON S/SAONE
Dimanche 7 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions CLERMONT-FERRAND
Mardi 9 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions PÉRIGUEUX
Vendredi 12 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LANGOLVAS-MORLAIX
Samedi 13 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LORIENT-LANESTER
Dimanche 14 décembre 2003 Docks Océane LE HAVRE
Mardi 16 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions LA ROCHELLE
Vendredi 19 décembre 2003 Elispace BEAUVAIS
Samedi 20 décembre 2003 Parc des Expositions REIMS
Samedi 17 janvier 2004 Le Zénith PARIS

So what?
Some artists have several concerts on a day. Her concers were over a period of months. This is not a hectic schedule. Also, it is not her who does all the work. She just rehearses and sings. That is all.

[Just a Guest]

So what?
Some artists have several concerts on a day. Her concers were over a period of months. This is not a hectic schedule. Also, it is not her who does all the work. She just rehearses and sings. That is all.

You don't seem to have any idea what else she did in this period?

Besides of that; regarding to your first reaction 4 years is already reduced to
less than 5 months...

[INDUSTRIAL]

You don't seem to have any idea what else she did in this period?

Besides of that; regarding to your first reaction 4 years is already reduced to
less than 5 months...

http://www.iorr.org/tour05/index.htm
See this. Her schedule is not hectic at all. 43 concerts in one tour is not much and it was her only tour. Well, you do not seem to have any idea what a tour means and what an artist does during a tour. And so what do you want to say regarding my reaction? Please use complete sentence, not unintelligible pieces of writing.

[knight]

Sure she can sing. We love her because she is full of surprises. We might have to love "just a guest";). He can surprise too.
23 her age, 43 her concerts, 2003 year she performed, latest album released on 3rd December, she married in 2003, second album released in 2003, the glass cage was of 3 by 3 meters, the first single from Mademoiselle Juliette was released on 30th Sep.

Notice all those 3es they sure do point to something. This deserver a new thread.
I might have good future in mathematics.lolz

[INDUSTRIAL]

the glass cage was of 3 by 3 meters

Are you sure the glass cage was just 3 by 3 meters? I think it is larger than that.

[Killian]

http://www.iorr.org/tour05/index.htm
See this. Her schedule is not hectic at all. 43 concerts in one tour is not much and it was her only tour. Well, you do not seem to have any idea what a tour means and what an artist does during a tour. And so what do you want to say regarding my reaction? Please you complete sentence, not unintelligible pieces of writing.

Yes because it is perfectly fair to compare the tours of internationally renowned rockers, to that of a relatively unknown French pop star. :rolleyes:
She was 18/19 at the time, and it was, as you said, her first tour. When you take this into account, it would have been very hectic and nerve wracking for her, particularly October-December.

[INDUSTRIAL]

Sure she can sing. We love her because she is full of surprises. We might have to love "just a guest";). He can surprise too.
23 her age, 43 her concerts, 2003 year she performed, latest album released on 3rd December, she married in 2003, second album released in 2003, the glass cage was of 3 by 3 meters, the first single from Mademoiselle Juliette was released on 30th Sep.

Notice all those 3es they sure do point to something. This deserver a new thread.
I might have good future in mathematics.lolz

Well, I do not think the number 3 points at anyting. We can look at this way. She debuted in 2000, her second album came out in 2003, and her third album came out in 2007. Her daughter is 2 years old, and she is 23 years old. Befor going on to concerts, she released two albums which has 21 songs. She was born in August 21. Gourmandises sold 2 million copies world wide. Also, MJ was released by Virgin Megastore on September 23.
Well, does this mean 2 point at something? I do not think so. Likewise, 3 does not point at something

[INDUSTRIAL]

Yes because it is perfectly fair to compare the tours of internationally renowned rockers, to that of a relatively unknown French pop star. :rolleyes:
She was 18/19 at the time, and it was, as you said, her first tour. When you take this into account, it would have been very hectic and nerve wracking for her, particularly October-December.

Yes I know I am fair. Thanks.

Well, she was 19/20 to be exact. And she already had 4 years of experience. Maybe, her first concerts could have made her nervous yet I do not think it was nerve wracking. Just look at how many little performances she had. Did you see Alizee http://moi-alizee.us/play/?v=42? It was a year before she had the tour. Yet she seems confident in front of a large crowd.
From October to December could not have been a big problem, since she had performed some concerts.

[knight]

"A concert a day keeps the fans away":D.
This might be the reason she just have 43 concerts on her credit.43 I say is not a huge number. We should know the fact that Alizee is not the type of artist who performs live with ease. No she is not.

We should accept nobody is perfect. There will always be some performers singing live better then in studios but Alizee is not one of them. She is surely not natural at it. Is she?
This for me is the reason for for just 43 concerts. Sure we were discussing is 43 a huge number or not but I thought if I can just give the reason why she doesn't sing is concerts more often it will settle the matter that there might have been many more concerts to her credit then this 43. Therefore 43 is not huge.
Well for that 3 thing 21 songs=2+1=3,21st August=2+1=3, September 23 has a 3, and this 2000s 2 You cannot change it if you are born in this millennium. Alizee's millennium.
Well this debate of numbers can go on forever lets finish it, 2 OR 3 are nothing untill they are associated with Alizee. ARE THEY?

[Runner Simon]

43 concerts or not, I never got a chanse to see them anyway, so for me it does not matter.

[RadioactiveMan]

http://www.iorr.org/tour05/index.htm
See this. Her schedule is not hectic at all. 43 concerts in one tour is not much and it was her only tour. Well, you do not seem to have any idea what a tour means and what an artist does during a tour. And so what do you want to say regarding my reaction? Please use complete sentence, not unintelligible pieces of writing.

It is impossible to say what her schedule was like with absolutely no indication of what she was up to. It's also more than a little silly to compare a tour of Alizée to Rolling Stones tours.

[GianGian]

43 is actually a very small number. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Slavery_Tour

[knight]

Ok I give up on supporting Industrial.
43 is a HUGE number.

Now come on guys she is a professional. What is a busy schedule its her job. She can take a break of 3 years now this is not very cool. fans want something all the time. 43 concerts only, and still we can find people who think that it was very hard on her.
Well if she can't sing on regular basis she should take some other job.

[Martin]

Several concerts a day?? Who did that? I dont think its physically possible for an artist/band to perform more than one maybe max two full concerts per day. Except you are talking for a drum machine's solo concerts :D

43 concerts in a few months tour is a pretty decent number. Each concert isnt just "singing" but requires the artist to give his/her full potential and at the same time be in perfect form. Alizee's show especially wasnt the case of 35 minutes semi concerts of drunk rockers but something that was melticulesly prepared down to the last detail, with extended dance routines and a strict schedule. Above all she had to look fresh and sparkling and be full of energy, as her lolita role demanded. Plus all this was pretty much a one woman show. Quite a remarkable task for a 19yr old girl going on her FIRST ever tour. And judging from the DVD, she managed this extremely well.

[INDUSTRIAL]

Several concerts a day?? Who did that? I dont think its physically possible for an artist/band to perform more than one maybe max two full concerts per day. Except you are talking for a drum machine's solo concerts :D


Jay Z did.

[shu]

So what?
Some artists have several concerts on a day. Her concers were over a period of months. This is not a hectic schedule. Also, it is not her who does all the work. She just rehearses and sings. That is all.
your crazy which artists have two concerts a day

[GianGian]

your crazy which artists have two concerts a day

He said Jay Z had.

By the way, did he do two full shows really? and more than once?
I don't know of any other act to do it.

[INDUSTRIAL]

your crazy which artists have two concerts a day

Well, first thanks for calling me crazy. You seem to be an ignorant moron. I already said Jay Z did several concerts in one day. After finishing a world wide tour, Jay Z performed 8 concerts in just one day.

[INDUSTRIAL]

If you guys think I am being unfair by comparing Lili with Rolling Stones, will I be fair if I compare her with Britney Spears.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Baby_One_More_Time_Tour
Here is Britney's first tour. She was younger than Alizee when she performed her first tour. Also, she had more concerts than Alizee did.

[RadioactiveMan]

You seem to be an ignorant moron.

No need to be so rude. Except for Nurvonic, we're all friends here.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

No need to be so rude. Except for Nurvonic, we're all friends here.

and Raphael... oh and brad.. he is mean...
brad dont ban me please

[GianGian]

Well Britney's tour was very small too.
But actually, they are both decent tours if you consider that they cover only on or few countries. I think that the thing with Alizée is that she should promote herself worldwide. Maybe it's just a matter of time, until she gets a bit more fame in France and Europe in general. To begin with, she was a national investment, not a global one. Remember, most of us wouldn't know about her if it was not because of the internet. She has no idea, and neither have us, of how popular she is or is not, considering the illegal downloads and the impossibility to know how many people have her albums on their computers. Also, maybe the language is a barrier. I don't know about many artists that sing in french and are hugely popular in the US.

[INDUSTRIAL]

Well Britney's tour was very small too.
But actually, they are both decent tours if you consider that they cover only on or few countries. I think that the thing with Alizée is that she should promote herself worldwide. Maybe it's just a matter of time, until she gets a bit more fame in France and Europe in general. To begin with, she was a national investment, not a global one. Remember, most of us wouldn't know about her if it was not because of the internet. She has no idea, and neither have us, of how popular she is or is not, considering the illegal downloads and the impossibility to know how many people have her albums on their computers. Also, maybe the language is a barrier. I don't know about many artists that sing in french and are hugely popular in the US.

Totally agreed. She needs to keep learning English and make albums in all English. As for the national investment, I think she was bred not only for France and Europe, but for the world. Mylene made her to study English and made few songs in English. Also, she did some promotions in other countries, sometimes just a total failure and waste of money.

It is almost impossible for a foreign artist to be popular in N. America without making international albums.

American market is huge. Also, she cannot just ignore Asian markets. She needs English songs to conquer these markets.

[dreamer]

No, she doesn't. Her french songs are much better and she doesn't even want to be a global star. Besides, what do you know about her schedule or what it takes to give 43 concerts (even if that is a relatively small number)? You know nothing, please stop shooting your mouth off.

[mibir]

Totally agreed. She needs to keep learning English and make albums in all English. As for the national investment, I think she was bred not only for France and Europe, but for the world. Mylene made her to study English and made few songs in English. Also, she did some promotions in other countries, sometimes just a total failure and waste of money.

It is almost impossible for a foreign artist to be popular in N. America without making international albums.

American market is huge. Also, she cannot just ignore Asian markets. She needs English songs to conquer these markets.

Well I'm gonna disagree with the singing in English and conquering America considering from what she has said she has NO desire to do anything with America. Not to mention it seems most enjoy her French over her English songs, myself included.

As far as Jay Z doing multiple concerts in one day, this is certainly not the norm so it is a fairly moot point. Also I'm not sure why you insist on calling everyone who disagrees with you a moron. This is not the best way to get your opinion across.

[Rev]

No, she doesn't. Her french songs are much better and she doesn't even want to be a global star. Besides, what do you know about her schedule or what it takes to give 43 concerts (even if that is a relatively small number)? You know nothing, please stop shooting your mouth off.

Let's try to avoid the personal attacks. Everybody has a right to voice their opinion.


Although I recognize that she has indicated that she is not aiming at the English Language market, I, for one, hope she reconsiders.

[fsquared]

Jay-Z did that 7 in a day thing as a one-off promotional, and each concert was 30 minutes, and I'm sure he was plenty exhausted after that.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-11-19-jayz-tour_x.htm

Alizee's touring schedule those few months was clearly extremely hectic, and it sounds like she flamed out a bit at the end (having to cut her last show short from a gastrointestinal bug or something similar). Saying that it was is "just practicing and singing" is very puzzling, given the amount of effort that was clearly involved in giving each one of these (exhausting dance routines, costume changes, etc.)

[Vista]

Using Google trends search, Alizee (the business) coming to America may not be financially cost effective for her and her business partners. Using Google trends, Mexico may be the place for Alizee (the business) to visit... and, as I recall, Alizee mentioned that is a possibility in 2008. Alizee (the business) is professionally managed and I am sure market research is an important tool in that management. The following examples may illustrate one of the tools.

Google Trends
Http://www.google.com/trends

Search Trends: Alizée

Search Trends: Alizee (no accent mark over the first 'e'.)

Search Trends: Psychédélices

Search Trends: Psychedelices (no accent mark over the 'e's.)

Search Trends: Moi Lolita

[lefty12357]

Vista, that is very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Mexico indeed looks like a place for Alizée to be.

It would be nice if that interest would spread north to the US and Canada. Even a niche market in the US can produce sales of up to 100,000 CDs without Alizée even becoming a household word.

She needs to sell enough CDs to keep her career going and have the opportunity to do another album in the future. I'm not sure that sales in Europe alone can provide that the way things are right now. I don't think she has to sing in English and I don't think she needs to think in terms of conquering North America. If she can tap into the niche markets of a continent of half a billion people, her sales could be significant. She needs exposure to do it, though.