What happened ?

[ALS]

I just for fun ran a Google Search on Alizée. Our little girl dropped to 670,000 page hits. :eek:
I did this back in November 2007 and got around 4.2 million page hits.

[Youpidou1]

What page was this on? You mean that only 670,000 people searched for Lili today and 4.2 million in November? Something is wrong I think she has alot more fans now than she did back then. Time helps.

[dreamer]

I only get 613,000 hits.:confused: Maybe Google cleaned out their search index?

[Extra251]

Thats sad:( i hope that now when shes back that wil be better it muss be better, because if she stopt singing i die from sadden. But she won't stop to sing i know that:p

[Bigdan]

if you want to know the progression of her popularity, try this :

http://google.com/trends

( enter "Alizee")

[-MihaiL-]

if you want to know the progression of her popularity, try this :

http://google.com/trends

( enter "Alizee")

haha, I never expected to see that, Mexico? I agree they are numerous, nevertheless I never knew they are that! crazy about Alizee. Good for them! :)

[ed2010]

And the USA doesn't have enough data to even register on Google trends...

And people wonder why we aren't on Alizée's concert plans.

:(

[Deepwaters]

And the USA doesn't have enough data to even register on Google trends...

And people wonder why we aren't on Alizée's concert plans.

:(

THAT I don't wonder. What I wonder is why she has never been marketed here, why Americans have never been exposed to her except via YouTube and sites like this forum.

Until there are enough people interested in her in this country, a concert tour would make no sense.

Until enough people have been exposed to her here, there will not be enough people interested in her.

Step 1 has not been taken. That's the mystery. That Step 2 hasn't been taken is no mystery at all, because Step 1 is a prerequisite.

[Amigo!]

haha, I never expected to see that, Mexico? I agree they are numerous, nevertheless I never knew they are that! crazy about Alizee. Good for them! :)

hey, I'm just as crazy as they are... :p :wub: :D

As a matter of fact, I think we all are :rolleyes:

[Solaris]

If you type in Alizee then Mexico is number one, but if you actually enter her real name Alizée then France is number one..

[Cooney]

Solaris beat me to it :-P The inclusion of the accent mark changes it completely. Spelled correctly, Mexico is third to France and Belgium. Spelled with no accent, Mexico is waaaay in the lead.


Also, on an amusing note, Paris is not even on the top 10 list of French cities for searches on "Alizée," but is the only French city to show up on "Alizee." Lot of foreigners in Paris misspelling it, or is it local custom to drop accents?

[ALS]

Put in the é and you get 854,000 page hits on Google. The é is worth another 184K page hits over just e.

[Urb4n]

I honestly thought she had more American fans than that 0.o

[Runner Simon]

When searcing for "Alizee" Sweden shows up at ninth place ::D

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

Thats because we are lazy here in Mexico...
so its easier and faster for us to just type Alizee... besides we write what we listen.

[espire]

The number of results that you get from Google largely depends on the datacenter that you hit. They all have the most important result, but one server cluster might not have the 300,00th listing that another does.

[ajaccio corsica]

hi
believe me or not but many americans have problems with spelling :D
for example the capital of louisiana spelled baton rouge :eek:
of course we all know it's Bâton Rouge
new orleans is also a non sense, correct spelling is La Nouvelle Orléans
Los Angeles isn't called The Angels ;)
San Francsico isn't called Saint Francis, it would be completely stupid :)
cheers

[Youpidou1]

Of course she has many more fans. There are many more fans that aren't from here who either don't know about the site or don't have time. The 1,500 on this site aren't only Americans that know her in the USA. But daily we gain more fans. And that is one more step to promote Alizée here in the USA.

[Edcognito]

Jenifer Bartoli and Alizée -

Linky: http://google.com/trends?q=jenifer+bartoli%2C+alizee&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0


Interesting - anyone know of any currently popular French artists (and the correct spelling of their names) to compare to?

Just wondering how things stack up - although i do wish they gave some kind of idea of the scale of the graphs....


Ed:cool:

[Ben]

Jenifer Bartoli and Alizée
Problem with this one is most people don't use Jeni's last name.

[mal]

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[Vista]

For Alizee in the USA, regions, subregions and cities are compared. Since no vertical data are given on any Google trend graph, only relative comparisons are possible. Note that Spanish and French are the dominant languages. The top three cities in the number of searchs are essentially the same... I found it interesting that San Francisco is among those top three.

Based on USA population density for Alizee popularity, optimized return on Alizee resource expenditures and proximity to Mexico, the Los Angeles area would be my logical choice for an Alizee appearance in the USA (should one occur) during the time of her March 2008 tour.


http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj41/EbearGrosso/Alizee-GoogleTrendsJan19-2008.jpg

[mal]

woot Austin in top three and no. 1 when I checked. Maybe shell do south by southwest.


I wish there were numbers there. Id like to know how many are searching.

In the end to answer the question: what happened?

nothing happened her searchs are near the same they were in 2004. This is quite amazing given her absence. People keep acting like shes on the out and its in their own heads. I have yet to see someone point to something actual which reflects this. Im living proof. Im an American and have only heard of her in 2007 and love her now. Anyone who heard her music from me has felt the same.

moreover if each bar line is stagnant than check out the search on rammstein!!! Alizee is near the same for Rammstein!

More importantly while under the first line for the US it is almost as high as world wide! shes even more popular than i would have guessed.

[SilentFox]

hmm..i wonder what Canada would be like...

[lefty12357]

I discovered Alizée on Youtube. I then searched Google to find info and fan sites. Since then I rarely use Google to do searches for Alizée. I wonder how this relates to the trend data. Do other fans do frequent searches on Google?

On average, how many searches equal a "won over" fan? Does the ratio vary by region?

[OGRE]

I wish there were numbers there. Id like to know how many are searching.


Yes, keep in mind these are "trend" charts, with magnitude absent on the Y-axis. The magnitude of support is not shown. We must be careful in the conclusions we draw.

For example, if the U.S. chart has a max magnitude of 10000 and the French chart has a max of 100000, then from a pure magnitude standpoint a trend-busting rise from nothing to 100% in the American trend would be equivalent to only a 10% rise in French trends. This is only an example. I suspect Google probably resets the Y-axis as trends reach the upper and lower margins.

In terms of magnitude of support, I'm not sure there is much to gain in cross comparisons between trend charts unless the we can establish the Y-axis values.

[espire]

Alizée doesn't have enough information for trends in Canada. However, removing the accent does. From searching for 'alizee,' we get Quebec in front, but other provinces follow it quite closely. Now, while the removal of the accent is unfair to Quebec, as magnitudes more people in Quebec would use it, it is still an excellent way of showing how Quebec really doesn't have such an edge over the rest of Canada when it comes to Alizée's popularity.

Of course, we'll have to wait until the album releases here to tell for sure.

[Rev]

Try this one:

http://google.com/trends?q=Myl%C3%A8ne+Farmer%2C+Aliz%C3%A9e&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Comparing: Mylène Farmer, Alizée

[SilentFox]

wow....thats pretty cool.

[fsquared]

hi
believe me or not but many americans have problems with spelling :D
for example the capital of louisiana spelled baton rouge :eek:
of course we all know it's Bâton Rouge
new orleans is also a non sense, correct spelling is La Nouvelle Orléans
Los Angeles isn't called The Angels ;)
San Francsico isn't called Saint Francis, it would be completely stupid :)
cheers

Well, each language ends up with its own name for a place. I mean, is it "Ajaccio" or "Aiacciu"? ;) And American English tends to do away with diacritics when it takes spellings imported from other languages (since we don't have, say, "â" or "é" in general use).

[Hylas1896]

In the US, Utah is the top subregion for Alizee searches? That's where I live. Where are all these people? Why? This is totally unexpected to me. :confused:

Hylas1896

[rcs]

WTH? Phoenix! :( We ain't doin' too good. Gotta work at that.

[heyamigo]

In the US, Utah is the top subregion for Alizee searches? That's where I live. Where are all these people? Why? This is totally unexpected to me. :confused:

Hylas1896

that's really odd, the population of utah is pretty small too. maybe she's huge among the mormons (lolita)? :p

[Youpidou1]

Wow, I never expected Utah. Sorry, I kind of thought New York/California/Florida would be next to the top on Alizée searches. Sorry for doubting. Wow I learned something today haha.

[OGRE]

In the US, Utah is the top subregion for Alizee searches? That's where I live. Where are all these people? Why? This is totally unexpected to me. :confused:

Hylas1896

Again, are we talking search MAGNITUDE or search DIFFERENCES (Trends)? A jump from one hit to two hits is a 100% difference but only amounts to an increase of only one person. Contrast with a jump from 1000 hits to 1500 hits..a 50% increase in hits but a 500 person increase in magnitude.

Utah could be ahead because they had virtually no hits until Hylas came along and started searching.....causing the trend to shoot up. Where are all these people? They could be you.:p

[shu]

that is crazy

[Paoli]

There is more than one Alizée out there - there is a junior tennis star and the current Miss Belgium, among others. This might skew the trends a bit.

As for touring the US, that will take a while.

[Youpidou1]

There is more than one Alizée out there - there is a junior tennis star and the current Miss Belgium, among others. This might skew the trends a bit.

As for touring the US, that will take a while.

Lets just get the CD released here first. Maybe a performance on a show or something. Start out small and work up.

[mal]

correction: San antonio woot is no. 1!!! and austin second

[ajaccio corsica]

hi
I bet she's famous in paoli pa or corsicana tx ;)
btw is your nick name linked to general paoli?
Au cours de la guerre d'indépendance des États-Unis, les insurgents de George Washington, lors d'une bataille contre les troupes anglaises, scandaient le nom de Paoli ( "Remember Paoli" ) au regard du courage des troupes corses en 1769 lors de la bataille de Ponte Novu.
cheers

[mal]

Shes popular. what is up with perception? as popular as her last album?? no way more popular than most?? yes

"The album peaked at number twenty-one in the main chart and number three in the international chart in early December. " wikipedia

no.3! wth do yall want?

[mal]

Good god world of fn sharks. Virgin releasd her album online a week before it was set to be released. Also her old record label released Alizee tout, a compilation of her old stuff, in Mexico. both of these actions Im sure hurt sales. More importantly what a bunch of sharks. This is why Alizee has backed off for three years. A person of character amongst soleless beings.

[mal]

her popularity is underestimated. she blows away alanis morisette and is equal with dido

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Dido

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vs. Alanis Morisette


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vs. cold play

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[FanDeAliFee]

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[user472884]

Doc, stop reviving old threads!

[wasabi622]

Doc, stop reviving old threads!

Dude, what's wrong with reviving old threads? I find it an acceptable behavior. :p

[mal]

What happened? I dont think she cares about being a mega star. There is nothing wrong with that. She has gained weight and her concerts arent star performances they are recitals. All of her idols put on big shows with dancing etc. She was trained as a dancer but shys away from it now probably b/c of her perceived exploitation by whats her name and maybe her husband is telling her she doesnt need to do that b/c he doesnt want her too (fear) But maybe shes happy with that.


Re reviving old threads - why not? I see that on so many forums and it makes no sense. If its relevant and someone wants to remark on it its there. Thats why its still there. No you cant look at the old zoo animals only the new ones.. wha?

[Ruroshen]

Dude, what's wrong with reviving old threads? I find it an acceptable behavior. :p

Re reviving old threads - why not? I see that on so many forums and it makes no sense. If its relevant and someone wants to remark on it its there. Thats why its still there. No you cant look at the old zoo animals only the new ones.. wha?

It all depends on the culture of the individual community, really. Some I've been part of have taken members to task for necromancing "dead" threads, while in others, people have been berated for starting a new thread without bothering to search for an existing one first. AAm has always been pretty relaxed either way, in that there's no real right or wrong to it...and even if a new thread gets started, it's usually not too long before somebody shows up and links to an older one, anyway. :p

Once the new album hits, though, and things start to get really crazy around here--and it'll happen, just you watch--I will be asking people to make use of the Search function before posting to avoid duplicate threads of the same topic within days/hours/minutes of each other. So it's a good habit to get into now, actually.

And personally, I think it's cool when old threads get dredged up by new fans. It's like having our own personal Wayback machine! It's neat to see what thoughts fans just like you had on the same subject back in 2006, and see just how much things have changed since then...and how much they've stayed the same. :cool: