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neoteny
09-12-2006, 12:43 PM
gimme somethin to draw people. i like doing portraits, especially her's. can't find anything here or anywhere. sil vous plait. just make sure the portraits are big enough for me so i can see every detail and i'll promise ill finish them completely with beer... and cancer sticks. find some for me rocket. c'mon greg, spartan. brad gimme a challenge. dont be shy. gimme a crap load of portraits. respond. pleez :o

post script: nurvs an ass and i love alizee. this is for you baby no one else

brad
09-12-2006, 01:33 PM
how about this one :)

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1615&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

probably tough to do that one .. she might come out looking like a demon. lol

riva2model64
09-12-2006, 01:37 PM
and its got a photographic effect,

noise/graininess

I don't draw but would imagine it would be hard to reproduce that
by hand

it's alright though she'd make one cute demon!
one I'd like to cuddle. . .

RMJ
09-12-2006, 01:55 PM
Why would he even want to draw grains ? It's the girl in the photo who he is about to draw.

riva2model64
09-12-2006, 02:43 PM
ye you raise a point there RMJ

and I know neoteny, I know you want to do portraits,
but she looks so got danged cute here (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2390&g2_serialNumber=1)

ye she's rally young there. . .15 or 16 yrs.?

if anyone has that photo in high detail, so neoteny can draw, they need not be shy!

aditya8617
09-12-2006, 02:55 PM
how about this one :)

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1615&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

probably tough to do that one .. she might come out looking like a demon. lol

:D you had to choose this pic, haha. But even Alizee demon would do.

brad
09-12-2006, 02:58 PM
i love that picture .. lol

i may have to ban bt_bird just so i can steal his avatar ..

RMJ
09-12-2006, 03:01 PM
ye you raise a point there RMJ

and I know neoteny, I know you want to do portraits,
but she looks so got danged cute here (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2390&g2_serialNumber=1)

ye she's rally young there. . .15 or 16 yrs.?

if anyone has that photo in high detail, so neoteny can draw, they need not be shy!



The photo is taken November 24, 2000, so she's 16 years, 3 months and 3 days old in it.

4523x3035 pixels version of it exists, but I have not seen it leaked out. So the one linked is the best quality photo that we have.

Bob
09-12-2006, 06:19 PM
The photo is taken November 24, 2000, so she's 16 years, 3 months and 3 days old in it.

lol you be so precise... and brad, i agree that pic would look good in a drawing =)

riva2model64
09-12-2006, 06:33 PM
The photo is taken November 24, 2000, so she's 16 years, 3 months and 3 days old in it.

4523x3035 pixels version of it exists, but I have not seen it leaked out. So the one linked is the best quality photo that we have.

ye thanks RMJ
but, I suppose that photo was taken by a film camera. . .how do they get it on digital, do they just scan it? (must be a freakin' good scanner)


I know is a stupid question, but I just want to know the little details

nurvonic
09-12-2006, 06:58 PM
post script: nurvs an ass

neoteny is a dick, so i better stay away from him:eek:

newalizeefan
09-12-2006, 07:10 PM
how about this one :)

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1615&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

probably tough to do that one .. she might come out looking like a demon. lol

i love this pic... shes adorable when shes mad.

nurvonic
09-12-2006, 07:12 PM
and oh ive been wanting you to draw this picture forever

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=1756

aditya8617
09-12-2006, 07:15 PM
Now Neo might find his hand full with so mant requests, haha.

cane17
09-12-2006, 07:32 PM
I like this one


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/cane17/G87976_b.jpg

NANAKI
09-12-2006, 07:46 PM
I like this one


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/cane17/G87976_b.jpg

yeah nice pic that is a great one

RMJ
09-13-2006, 04:25 PM
ye thanks RMJ
but, I suppose that photo was taken by a film camera. . .how do they get it on digital, do they just scan it? (must be a freakin' good scanner)


I know is a stupid question, but I just want to know the little details
Yes, it's taken with film SLR camera. And scanned (directly from film or from photo in some cases ) later in photo agency.

And as you guess, they have good scanners. These photo agencies provides photos to all the news papers, magazines and other media that needs them. So the quality must be as good as possible.

Rocket
09-13-2006, 05:52 PM
You can do one of me if you'd like. I'll even send you a pic.

NANAKI
09-13-2006, 07:02 PM
You can do one of me if you'd like. I'll even send you a pic.

woah wasn't expecting that

Bob
09-13-2006, 07:22 PM
woah wasn't expecting that

lol nanaki... what were you expecting.. people to send you alizee pics?

RadioactiveMan
09-13-2006, 07:29 PM
I'll do a sketch of you, Rocket. It'd be a nice change of pace from my usual drawing which usually involve Green Day stick men being hacked up by badly drawn axes.

NANAKI
09-13-2006, 07:39 PM
I'll do a sketch of you, Rocket. It'd be a nice change of pace from my usual drawing which usually involve Green Day stick men being hacked up by badly drawn axes.

then what is she going to look like :eek:

RadioactiveMan
09-13-2006, 07:45 PM
I really don't know. If you saw the pictures that I drew detailing my cake-baking adventures, you'd understand. ;)

aditya8617
09-13-2006, 07:47 PM
I really don't know. If you saw the pictures that I drew detailing my cake-baking adventures, you'd understand. ;)

then post them, I would certainly like to have an idea how Rocket's pic is finally going to look.

NANAKI
09-13-2006, 08:27 PM
then post them, I would certainly like to have an idea how Rocket's pic is finally going to look.

yeah you definately need to post those in order to give us an idea since some of us know what she looks like.

neoteny
09-13-2006, 10:47 PM
You can do one of me if you'd like. I'll even send you a pic.

sure send me a portrait. that is...if ur not too shy or feel just a tad insecure

nurvonic
09-14-2006, 05:04 PM
heres a preview of brads drawing
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2527

hes almost done with it. he just has to tweek it a lil bit

brad
09-14-2006, 05:06 PM
heres a preview of brads drawing
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2527

hahaha .. that is looking great man! very nice

aditya8617
09-14-2006, 05:21 PM
heres a preview of brads drawing
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2527

hes almost done with it. he just has to tweek it a lil bit

great dude, that was a nice drawing, you captured her expression perfectly. She looks more terrifying in the drawing.

General Patton
09-14-2006, 06:15 PM
heres a preview of brads drawing
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2527

hes almost done with it. he just has to tweek it a lil bit
That's great drawing but its a horrible picture to draw. It is one of the worst picture of her.

NANAKI
09-14-2006, 07:35 PM
That's great drawing but its a horrible picture to draw. It is one of the worst picture of her.

I would have to agree

Bob
09-14-2006, 08:56 PM
That's great drawing but its a horrible picture to draw. It is one of the worst picture of her.

um alizee doesn't have a "worst picture of her" and brad is very good at drawing

NANAKI
09-14-2006, 09:02 PM
um alizee doesn't have a "worst picture of her" and brad is very good at drawing

true but it isn't one of the better ones

Bob
09-14-2006, 09:05 PM
true but it isn't one of the better ones

true nanaki....see patton? nanaki has the vocab of a true winner, no negativity, i wish you could be more like him patton...

NANAKI
09-14-2006, 09:09 PM
true nanaki....see patton? nanaki has the vocab of a true winner, no negativity, i wish you could be more like him patton...

what can I say I am a pretty good orator

aditya8617
09-14-2006, 10:22 PM
Nanaki, Bob is playing good politics, trying to turn nanaki on his side against Patton. Watchout Nanaki.

btw looks like you are going to reach 150 by the end of the day.

NANAKI
09-14-2006, 10:28 PM
Nanaki, Bob is playing good politics, trying to turn nanaki on his side against Patton. Watchout Nanaki.

btw looks like you are going to reach 150 by the end of the day.

I never pick sides I am on both sides when the other is right I'm, more of an opportunitist

riva2model64
09-14-2006, 11:18 PM
hahaha .. that is looking great man! very nice


huh? I thought you drew that brad?
well it's an awesome drawing
whoever drew it, is a great artist

brad
09-14-2006, 11:22 PM
nooo .. i didn't draw that. neoteny did

General Patton
09-14-2006, 11:27 PM
um alizee doesn't have a "worst picture of her" and brad is very good at drawing
Shut up Bob we all can see right though it!

RadioactiveMan
09-14-2006, 11:45 PM
nooo .. i didn't draw that. neoteny did

You're just being modest.

riva2model64
09-15-2006, 12:52 AM
come on brad!
that's an amazing piece!
why to be shy?

it appears as if we have 1 member(s) and 1 admin(s) that draw very well
I'm sure we have more, but they're just too got danged shy!

well I suppose it's a good trait because the big lady herself has admitted shyness

neoteny
09-15-2006, 11:29 AM
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a monster i have created by my hands. brad come here...lemme slap you.

O Rly
09-15-2006, 11:57 AM
Nice! Good job:D !

aditya8617
09-15-2006, 12:19 PM
Ok, who draw which? I don't care they are good and would say good drwaing!

O Rly
09-15-2006, 12:40 PM
It's the same picture, both are Neoteny's. Or did i get something wrong?

nurvonic
09-15-2006, 01:39 PM
ok, whos the idiot who thought brad drew it. maybe i should rephrase that...when i said "heres brads drawing", i meant the picture that he wanted neoteny to draw, so i guess its my fault. anyway, good drawing bro!!

riva2model64
09-15-2006, 02:49 PM
it appears as if I the idiot. . .

regardless,
amazing work neoteny!!
that's an incredible piece omg


way to go!!

neoteny
09-15-2006, 03:02 PM
Gee Tanks!!

aditya8617
09-15-2006, 03:05 PM
Ok finally the issue is settled, great drawing Neo, you are super!

neoteny
09-15-2006, 03:09 PM
Ok finally the issue is settled, great drawing Neo, you are super!

to tell u the truth... i dont actually like this drawing in particular. everythings out of proportion...if u look hard enuff. so phuck

riva2model64
09-15-2006, 03:17 PM
to tell u the truth... i dont actually like this drawing in particular. everythings out of proportion...if u look hard enuff. so phuck


well, it's a sketch not a photo
every artist has got to leave his/her signature (or else I won't be able to tell neoteny's sketches from brad's)

if you look at several earlier works by Van Gogh, they are very much out of proportion, but some of those works are highly praised, because they catch other elements. take a peek at potato eaters, one of Van Gogh's better known early works. (http://thales.cica.es/rd/Recursos/rd98/Historia/02/potato_eaters.jpg) instead of being Canon 1ds mkII precise, he brought about the emotion of the people and setting

here, you have captured Alizée's fervor (and beauty)
and because of this it is a great work, it doesn't have to be precise
in order for me to appreciate it

neoteny
09-15-2006, 04:00 PM
i love you...

O Rly
09-15-2006, 04:05 PM
awwwwwww, cute

aditya8617
09-15-2006, 04:14 PM
to tell u the truth... i dont actually like this drawing in particular. everythings out of proportion...if u look hard enuff. so phuck

All the people here are not professional artist people so we are not going to notice small errors you make. Also, I have done about 3 years of drawing and I think I can't draw anything like that, that was awasome!

brad
09-15-2006, 08:08 PM
man .. this is by far your best one yet ... it is probably a bad picture to draw though, must have been hard as hell.

excellent job, i wish I could do that kind of thing ... i bet it is a lot of fun.

neoteny
09-15-2006, 08:20 PM
merci brad. there's a new comic for all of you to feast your eyes on. not much. have a look see in the gallie. and ill post up the new portrait in a few days. until then... mr. sandman, bring me a dream...of Alizee of course

General Patton
09-16-2006, 12:31 AM
Very nice drwaing neoteny wow you are good.

Nitro
09-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Wow neoteny, each drawing is better than the last. Can't wait to see the next one.

General Patton
09-17-2006, 03:29 PM
But pick a better picture, or wait Brad picked that one....

neoteny
09-17-2006, 10:27 PM
dont quit on me. if you gotta "new" big enough picture, post it. ill save it and i WILL draw it. finished nurvs pic already. wonder what's next, ive already started on someone elses. ive got nothin but time on my hands this week. works been easy on me. keep'em comin'. oh my...look at all the booze.

neoteny
09-18-2006, 09:34 AM
fine...i'll fine some myself. thanks anyway

O Rly
09-18-2006, 10:37 AM
Try this one

aditya8617
09-18-2006, 11:29 AM
Try this one

yea, it has a potential to be a nice sketch, draw it neo!

neoteny
09-19-2006, 03:02 PM
here's the next one...not done with it yet

nurvonic
09-19-2006, 03:15 PM
here's the next one...not done with it yet

lol wow THATS your best one yet!

RadioactiveMan
09-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Impressive!

aditya8617
09-19-2006, 03:40 PM
here's the next one...not done with it yet

:D :D Even that looked little bit like Alizee especially the smile.

General Patton
09-19-2006, 05:22 PM
Wow! Great drawing neoteny!

neoteny
09-20-2006, 12:30 PM
seriously. i'll post the portraits up in a few weeks. i wantem to be superb. they gotta look like her for the most part

Rocket
09-20-2006, 12:49 PM
I put up a few in the gallery of me neo.

nurvonic
09-20-2006, 02:39 PM
wow Rocket, your best friend can draw! for all you lazies out there....

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2686

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2690

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2688

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2692

aditya8617
09-20-2006, 04:14 PM
wow Rocket, your best friend can draw! for all you lazies out there....

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2686

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2690

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2688

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2692

thanks nuro, I am one of the lazy ones:).

General Patton
09-20-2006, 07:38 PM
wow Rocket, your best friend can draw! for all you lazies out there....

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2686

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2690

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2688

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2692

Thanks I'm lazy...

Bob
09-20-2006, 08:49 PM
haha thanks nurv, i am also one of the lazies, annd rocket, whats your obsession with batwoman and spiderman?

nurvonic
09-20-2006, 08:57 PM
rocket, whats your obsession with batwoman and spiderman?

she didnt draw the pictures, her best friend did....maybe i should of posted this one too since you guys are so frekkin lazy:p ....read the description above the picture

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2684

neoteny
10-21-2006, 05:00 AM
here's the first of many. this is by far my favorite. hope you guys like this one. i know its late. thanks Rly. i'll post the next one whenever

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Rocket
10-21-2006, 07:44 AM
Who is it? hehehe

riva2model64
10-21-2006, 09:36 AM
it's awesome, I like it alot
great work neoteny:)

DJ_Greg
10-21-2006, 03:48 PM
Very nice!

neoteny
10-21-2006, 07:09 PM
thank you..

riva2model64
10-21-2006, 08:04 PM
neoteny, I really liked your old avatar

I miss it

RMJ
10-21-2006, 09:37 PM
Very nnice neoteny !

The nose looks funny. :)

neoteny
10-21-2006, 09:58 PM
Very nnice neoteny !

The nose looks funny. :)

i said i would try to perfect drawing her, i never said the sketches themselves would be perfect, but that's not the point. i do it cuz im fond of her. thanks anyway.

here's a comparison

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RMJ
10-21-2006, 10:35 PM
i said i would try to perfect drawing her, i never said the sketches themselves would be perfect, but that's not the point. i do it cuz im fond of her. thanks anyway.

There's nothing wrong in your picture !

I didn't mention that nose because I didn't like it ! I just think it's funny looking. Don't you think ? It looks kinda misshaped. And it is so even in the original ! The shading in grayscale image just makes it more visible.

I know exactly why you like to draw her. And you have no idea how much I respect people who devotes their time to draw her, write poems of her, or anything !

brad
10-21-2006, 10:49 PM
i wish i could draw half as good as you neoteny, i bet it is a very rewarding hobby ..

Twitch
10-21-2006, 10:53 PM
It might just that the shadow on the left side of the nose in the drawing is darker accentuating it more in the drawing than in the photograph. Try lightening the shadow a little bit, but overall quite nice neoteny. :)

nurvonic
10-21-2006, 11:11 PM
i think i can draw better with my ass...nice try bro...LOL

jk i think thats a superb drawing:D

neoteny
10-22-2006, 08:56 AM
i think i can draw better with my ass...nice try bro...LOL

jk i think thats a superb drawing:D

you're a bitch:D

Amelie
10-22-2006, 01:28 PM
neoteny, your drawing is..incredible! i adore, how you drew that hat! looks very real...

Luc
10-22-2006, 01:34 PM
Hi neoteny, I agree with Amelie. Your drawing is really great.
You and Amelie have different styles, I think that's interesting ;)

Amelie
10-22-2006, 01:38 PM
Hi neoteny, I agree with Amelie. Your drawing is really great.
You and Amelie have different styles, I think that's interesting ;)

yes! i see, that Neoteny likes to draw just with grey pencil and his drawings are very very particular! and i better choose colours and a bit of fantasy :o

O Rly
10-22-2006, 03:22 PM
That drawing is awesome, gj! I liked the way you did the hat.
I was away for a while so i couldn't respond earlier...

neoteny
10-23-2006, 01:25 PM
Who is it? hehehe

you're next...

neoteny
10-25-2006, 01:15 PM
yet another post of my "almost" identical sketch of venus. this has been up for a few days. some of yous guys have probably already viewed it in the gally. voila...
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Amelie
10-25-2006, 01:33 PM
yet another post of my "almost" identical sketch of venus. this has been up for a few days. some of yous guys have probably already viewed it in the gally. voila...
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WOW! very, really VERY beautiful drawing! you're an artist, neoteny, really, i am so so so low in comparison with you, neoteny! :(

Twitch
10-25-2006, 01:38 PM
I wouldn't say that Amelie, neoteny captures the details of the photographs but I find in alot of yours you capture the emotions instead. It's hard to explain except in some of yours you just feel has if you've captured the spirit of the person you've drawn, sometimes more than the photographs themselves.

neoteny
10-25-2006, 01:47 PM
thank you Amelie!! and just to let you know, im not trying to "out do" you by any means. it's hard trying to get her face exactly as it is in the photo. i dont think any professional artist would have problems. i prefer your work from mine. jus like twitch said. anyway lemme see some more of your paintings...i love 'em. in fact i save them.

you think more 'artist' will join this site? cuz im thinkin if we were to get enough of them, brad could add on another feature to this site called the Alizee fan Art. thinkin way ahead of myself

Amelie
10-25-2006, 01:59 PM
thank you Amelie!! and just to let you know, im not trying to "out do" you by any means. it's hard trying to get her face exactly as it is in the photo. i dont think any professional artist would have problems. i prefer your work to mine. jus like twitch said. anyway lemme see some more of your paintings...i love 'em. in fact i save them.

you think more 'artist' will join this site? cuz im thinkin if we were to get enough of them, brad could add on another feature to this site called the Alizee fan Art. thinkin way ahead of myself

well, thanks, but i don't think, that i ever could draw just like that..so real... my paintings are made with more fantasy, i like to change things, for example, lips color, eyes shades, clothes colors, body stance and etc.

neoteny
10-25-2006, 02:11 PM
maybe i should use color in my sketches just this once...see how it turns out....take a little inspiration from you.

nurvonic
10-26-2006, 03:17 PM
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hey,so you finally put this drawing up. its my favorite one so far. good job :)

riva2model64
10-26-2006, 03:32 PM
I like your avatar neoteny

and that new drawing you put up is just through the roof with detail

neoteny
10-30-2006, 10:17 AM
and another one.
rocket's giving me a hard time. her picture i mean...ROCKET YOU'RE NEXT. hope you like it

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atra201
10-30-2006, 10:28 AM
and another one.
rocket's giving me a hard time. her picture i mean...ROCKET YOU'RE NEXT. hope you like it

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did u draw that ?
and if yes by hand?

neoteny
10-30-2006, 10:32 AM
oui. oui by hand.

more beer..............

Amelie
10-30-2006, 10:34 AM
neoteny, how much time you have to draw a drawing?

neoteny
10-30-2006, 10:42 AM
neoteny, how much time you have to draw a drawing?


each sketch of her takes somewhere between 3 to 6 hours. this one took 5. i sketch mostly on my days off

Amelie
10-30-2006, 10:51 AM
each sketch of her takes somewhere between 3 to 6 hours. this one took 5. i sketch mostly on my days off

omg! how long!... i paint a painting or drawing just...a half hour or one hour... but of course, your drawings are very sophisticated, i think.

neoteny
10-30-2006, 10:55 AM
nah...why dont you talk to me in the cat room...lol

Amelie
10-30-2006, 10:57 AM
nah...why dont you talk to me in the cat room...lol

???? :D :D :D

neoteny
10-30-2006, 10:58 AM
the cHat room. sorry...

nevermind.

atra201
10-30-2006, 11:02 AM
oui. oui by hand.

more beer..............

wow very talented good painting you should sell it for brofit.

neoteny
10-30-2006, 11:04 AM
maybe i'll sell it for a brofit later in life...until then, its just sentimental value

atra201
10-30-2006, 11:07 AM
maybe i'll sell it for a brofit later in life...until then, its just sentimental value

ok when you do let's split the money 50/50

and a gain very beautiful painting.

Amelie
10-30-2006, 11:07 AM
the cHat room. sorry...

nevermind.

don't worry, really, nevermind. chatroom? maybe i have to try it!

atra201
10-30-2006, 11:09 AM
chatroom? maybe i have to try it!

what u have not yet? :confused:
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

neoteny
10-30-2006, 11:12 AM
ok when you do let's split the money 50/50

and a gain very beautiful painting.


you're so cute...


don't worry, really, nevermind. chatroom? maybe i have to try it!

you should...at night...

brad
10-30-2006, 11:14 AM
lmao neoteny ... you are one funny SOB. I'm not sure if you are trying to be or not a lot of the time.

neoteny
10-30-2006, 11:16 AM
lmao neoteny ... you are one funny SOB. I'm not sure if you are trying to be or not a lot of the time.


i guess it comes naturally...:o

RMJ
10-30-2006, 11:18 AM
Very nice drawing again. :)

atra201
10-30-2006, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=neoteny;14378]you're so cute...

huh that's a laugh;)

spysmasher
10-30-2006, 01:21 PM
Excellent drawings, Neoteny! You do great work!

neoteny
10-30-2006, 01:22 PM
give yourself some credit my dear. umm...are you a guy?

neoteny
10-30-2006, 01:22 PM
Excellent drawings, Neoteny! You do great work!

thanks masher...wanna hug me?

spysmasher
10-30-2006, 01:25 PM
thanks masher...wanna hug me?

Wrong thread ... but, okay ... *hugs neoteny*

atra201
10-30-2006, 01:32 PM
Wrong thread ... but, okay ... *hugs neoteny*

hah hah hah:D

Luc
10-30-2006, 01:33 PM
and another one.
rocket's giving me a hard time. her picture i mean...ROCKET YOU'RE NEXT. hope you like it

Beautiful drawing neoteny, my compliments !!

Don't understand about Rocket :confused: did I overlook something ?

neoteny
10-30-2006, 01:39 PM
oh skywalker...now ur gonna have to gimme a hug too. put away ur lightsabver though...

nurvonic
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
lmao neoteny ... you are one funny SOB. I'm not sure if you are trying to be or not a lot of the time.

you should see him when hes hammered...and trying to dance to youpidoo

DJ_Greg
10-30-2006, 02:40 PM
Beautiful drawing neoteny, my compliments !!

Don't understand about Rocket :confused: did I overlook something ?

He's gonna draw her at some point. Except all I see is a lot of talking and not a lot of drawing. :p

Amelie
11-02-2006, 01:45 PM
He's gonna draw her at some point. Except all I see is a lot of talking and not a lot of drawing. :p

maybe he is lazy :D

neoteny
11-10-2006, 01:17 PM
youre right, i am lazy...when im at home. here's rocket...
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i did the best i could with what i had so... sorry if you dont like it

Amelie
11-10-2006, 01:30 PM
she is pretty girl :o and you did it very good neoteny :o

Luc
11-10-2006, 01:48 PM
Very nice drawing neoteny !
I can't judge whether the resemblance of the drawing is good or not because I haven't seen a picture of Rocket. If it's good then I agree with Amelie she's a pretty girl :o

Ben
11-10-2006, 01:53 PM
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A bit late, but... wow!

neoteny
11-10-2006, 05:33 PM
yeah well i hate it. but she is beautiful isnt she..

took me only a half hour to do her picture

neoteny
11-11-2006, 05:34 AM
arite...im goin' on hiatus. as if you guys care. :) hats off to everyone for the appreciation. maybe i'll post another in the far off future...

aFrenchie
11-11-2006, 07:24 AM
A bit late, but... wow!
Im late too! This Alizée drawing rules! :eek:

http://www.moi-alizee.us/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108&d=1162221428

neoteny
11-27-2006, 02:52 PM
hiatus over
fingers still hurt
but thats not gonna stop me, well...maybe at the work place
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phew...

thanks in advance...all of you...and Lili

Luc
11-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Great work neoteny ! You and Amelie are the artists of this forum ;)

rwd716
11-27-2006, 09:11 PM
nice job :)

riva2model64
11-27-2006, 09:21 PM
neoteny, you are awesome

your drawings are amazing

and you too amelie you rock,
your work is fantastic

Amelie
11-28-2006, 03:13 AM
neoteny, your last working is unbelievable! it's the most beautiful drawing of Alizee i have ever seen! honestly. and thanks guys for your nice words ^^

aFrenchie
11-28-2006, 07:31 AM
http://www.moi-alizee.us/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=154&d=1164656351
:eek:
Neoteny, your drawings get better and better and better and better and better :)

brad
11-28-2006, 08:37 AM
very nice neoteny!! that looks amazing .. :D

O Rly
11-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Awesome work, neoteny!

zemasterzzz
11-28-2006, 04:21 PM
very niace.... I LIKE

DJ_Greg
11-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Hawt!!

I take back all those horrible things I said about you. Wait, what? Where did THAT come from? Uh...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

nurvonic
11-28-2006, 04:26 PM
the funny thing is, i saw him draw that from the start, and he was drunk the whole time...lol

good job drunken master drawer:cool:

atra201
11-28-2006, 11:56 PM
hiatus over
fingers still hurt
but thats not gonna stop me, well...maybe at the work place
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phew...

thanks in advance...all of you...and Lili
very beautifull
hey would you paint me?
the funny thing is, i saw him draw that from the start, and he was drunk the whole time...lol

good job drunken master drawer:cool:
really, drunk ppl can draw? :confused: huh
500posts

neoteny
11-29-2006, 02:05 PM
this guys called control. his drawings are "incomparable" to my own. in terms of extreme detail and grey scale. read the first few lines from his comment. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21529479/?qo=3&q=by%3Acontrol&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

Luc
11-29-2006, 02:45 PM
I think this guy is an excellent draftsman. And he says Alizée is incomparable which I fully agree with :)
But I don't understand, why didn't he draw Alizée :confused: He says the drawing was done to the music of Alizée, and especially that one performance of J'En Ai Marre. Ok, Alizée is very inspiring but why did he draw someone else, and he doesn't even know who that person is ?

rwd716
11-29-2006, 09:28 PM
He knows who Lili is. I think he's saying that the drawing wasn't necessarily Lili, but it resembled her in JEAM.

O yeah, great drawing. The eye was gorgeous!

DJ_Greg
11-30-2006, 01:10 AM
control's Dave Grohl (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25298114/?qo=1&q=by%3Acontrol&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps)

Lots of other good ones in his gallery. The guy has talent, that's for sure.

Amelie
11-30-2006, 02:59 AM
that guy has a real talent. the paintings are so realistic, seem like i am looking to a photo...sad, that he didn't paint Alizee...

Twitch
11-30-2006, 01:06 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about so control can copy a photograph, good for him he is an excellent draftsman, but I never saw the point in creating a drawing that looks like a photograph, you have cameras to do that. Yes you should be able to draw your subject accurately but allow yourself some freedom to be creative. There is more to creating a good portrait than the ability of creating a photographic likeness, I liked leaving unimportant areas open for the imagination to work with. But I shouldn't really comment since I haven't drawn anything in years (after studying photography I found copying photographs tedious preferring to draw from life, and haven't had a muse that inspired me to draw anything in a while. The closest I have right now would be Alizée but I would be stuck copying someone else's photograph).

PS: I love watching these flash animations by Pat McMichael of his drawing process. Animated Slideshows (http://www.patmcmichael.com/quicktimepage.html). They show how he builds his drawings up to the final version, hours of work reduced down to seconds. For the finished drawings check out his Graphite Gallery (http://www.patmcmichael.com/). And his deviantArt page (http://pat-mcmichael.deviantart.com/). But again why spend hours copying a photograph, I find it really tedious myself.

neoteny
11-30-2006, 01:58 PM
you know twitch...you really make good points about alot of things. from an artists perspective, drawing anything from people to something as simple as fruit can can be described nothing more as just a hobby or a passion. to me its both. copying a photograph is tedious, but i dont necessarily think it that way. no... in this case i like to think Alizee is standing right in front me, posing. looking gorgeous! sort of like as if i were copying still life that being grapes in a bowl in my kitchen. i love the photographic likeness of those beautiful drawings from Pat. espically the ones of Zelda and Link. i think they're great!

oi...
(sigh)

neoteny
12-02-2006, 10:23 AM
heres a build up. inspiration from Pat. thanks again ladies and gentlemen.

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neoteny
12-02-2006, 10:24 AM
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neoteny
12-02-2006, 10:25 AM
........................
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neoteny
12-02-2006, 10:26 AM
...................
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neoteny
12-02-2006, 10:27 AM
final.....(to me)

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DJ_Greg
12-02-2006, 11:15 AM
Wow, great drawing!

neoteny
12-02-2006, 12:19 PM
gee, THANKS GREG!

Luc
12-02-2006, 12:46 PM
Yes it's very beautiful. Thanks for the drawing neoteny :)

Amelie
12-02-2006, 02:33 PM
wow, how beautiful! well, now i really don't know, which painting of Alizee drawn by you is my favourite.

rwd716
12-02-2006, 07:17 PM
The first pic I thought was a good drawing, but not necessarilly a great drawing of Alizée. Then, as you darkened the eyes and lips, I could see the Lili I know come out--nice job.

DJ_Greg
12-02-2006, 07:21 PM
gee, THANKS GREG!

The "gee" makes me think you're being sarcastic. :confused:

nurvonic
12-02-2006, 08:09 PM
i wouldnt think too much into it greg

anyway, great drawing!

Sir Wood
12-04-2006, 01:31 AM
Neoteny, you should make your "build ups" into an animated .gif and see what that would look like. (Then again, that's not to many frames to work with.)

Needless to say I enjoy your work!

Amelie
12-11-2006, 12:32 PM
neoteny, your latest drawings are awsome, i don't have words to describe them, very, very beautiful, they're going better and better...

neoteny
12-11-2006, 01:02 PM
thank you Amelie. the latest ones took only a half hour. thats why they look so rough...work is killing me this holiday! so i need to hustle to get some sleep :) mwa!

neoteny
12-11-2006, 01:55 PM
rest are in the gallery. good night. see you guys in the new year.

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Luc
12-11-2006, 02:38 PM
This drawing is absolutely magnificent, awesome !!

nurvonic
12-11-2006, 05:12 PM
very outstanding Dotty

i get to see the live show..haha:D

Sir Wood
12-13-2006, 02:41 AM
The GIF is pretty big (360Kb), but it fades eerily from image to image. Each individual key frame (each original image) required it's own custom distortion matrix to overlay well from key to key.

Be patient with slower connections ... it'll be there ! The animation stops briefly at the finished artwork image, then re-cycles to the start.

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4515&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=0bc27bdc5d029fd954fbb452e048b043
OMG DOM! That's fantastic, you made the pic come to life! This ranks up there with some of Matrix's. Thank you and Neoteny for the work!

BTW Neo, #14 looks great!

neoteny
12-18-2006, 11:14 AM
The GIF is pretty big (360Kb), but it fades eerily from image to image. Each individual key frame (each original image) required it's own custom distortion matrix to overlay well from key to key. http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4515&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=0bc27bdc5d029fd954fbb452e048b043


whoa...thats pretty sweet...lol thanks dotty.

neoteny
12-18-2006, 11:19 AM
anyway...number 15 is in the box. go and have a look see

or...to save you the trouble of having to go through such tedious a process... just look here...

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:rolleyes:

SupaKrupa
12-19-2006, 05:54 AM
Why hello there, beautiful...

RMJ
12-19-2006, 06:37 AM
Very nice neoteny ! You really have some skills. :)

Some of the drawings are bit blurry, tho. Any chance of taking new photo of them ? I know your camera can do better focus. :) Try using macro shoot mode when taking the photo, it works pretty well in cases like this.

CFHollister
12-19-2006, 06:39 AM
That is fantastic:eek: . Imay be particularly biased because this one is based one one of my favorite photos of Alizee. Very Nice.

aFrenchie
12-19-2006, 07:49 AM
Very nice neoteny! :)

DJ_Greg
12-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Neo, I think that might be your best one yet. Good stuff!

Amelie
12-19-2006, 01:10 PM
just amazing...

neoteny
12-21-2006, 02:06 PM
Some of the drawings are bit blurry, tho. Any chance of taking new photo of them ? I know your camera can do better focus. :) Try using macro shoot mode when taking the photo, it works pretty well in cases like this.

thanks REM. i'll try that. to tell you the truth, id much rather have a scanner. i will get that scanner! i want all of you to see every detail when i draw Alizee. im tired of holding my breath for a shot. i have to take several shots just to get the clarity the way i want it. and dont get me started on the lighting.

RMJ
12-21-2006, 03:10 PM
Yea, scanner of course would be better for the job but sometimes it's not an option. :)

And it's usually much quicker to take photo than scan. :)

I use both ways myself. Depends on what I need.

neoteny
12-21-2006, 03:56 PM
look at this...there's people out who know Alizee exists. here's his portrait of Alizee...its very nice...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44971763/

RMJ
12-21-2006, 04:02 PM
look at this...there's people out who know Alizee exists. here's his portrait of Alizee...its very nice...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44971763/

He is member of Alizee-Forum actually.

Here you can see his drawing in process:
http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,714623.html#714623
http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,714732.html#714732
http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,714930.html#714930
http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,715023.html#715023
And many other posts after that...

And yea... His drawing skills are insane ! The best drawing I have ever seen. :eek: (no offense neotony. :) Your drawings are amazing, too. :) )

brad
12-21-2006, 04:05 PM
that is amazing .. the details are so perfect .. wow

neoteny
12-21-2006, 04:05 PM
that is unbelievable...i envy his skills...not entirely though...:o

nurvonic
12-21-2006, 04:05 PM
^^^^

neoteny, i think you have some competition buddy..lol

get to drawing!!

neoteny
12-21-2006, 04:06 PM
why dont you come over here and gimme a beer and i'll get started?

nurvonic
12-21-2006, 04:10 PM
I'm sorry, we're out. i think you drank my entire apartment..lol

neoteny
12-21-2006, 04:15 PM
go buy some more...

nurvonic
12-21-2006, 04:18 PM
gimme your credit card...

neoteny
12-21-2006, 04:18 PM
:mad: Eat Me.....!!!

nurvonic
12-21-2006, 04:21 PM
no thanks, thats your wife's job....oh thats right...nevermind

neoteny
12-21-2006, 04:24 PM
im gonna kick your ass.

Rocket
12-21-2006, 05:48 PM
you better pack a lunch neo, there's a lot of ass to kick. HAHAHAHA I am soooo sorry but I couldn't let that go by.

Sir Wood
12-21-2006, 07:28 PM
look at this...there's people out who know Alizee exists. here's his portrait of Alizee...its very nice...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44971763/
That's amazing. Although it looks like she has blonde hair. :blink:

rwd716
12-22-2006, 12:37 AM
This guy is so sick w/ his drawings! Please no blonde Lili, haha. Keep it real, girl, lol.

Twitch
12-23-2006, 03:41 PM
That's amazing. Although it looks like she has blonde hair. :blink:
Well Neo linked WIP 9 (WIP = work in progress, check out his deviant gallery you'll see why, that one was in his scraps section :)) but here is WIP 10. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/45161567/ but there was a problem with the scan, hopefully it will be replaced with a better scan.

Luc
12-23-2006, 05:44 PM
Well Neo linked WIP 9 (WIP = work in progress, check out his deviant gallery you'll see why, that one was in his scraps section :)) but here is WIP 10. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/45161567/ but there was a problem with the scan, hopefully it will be replaced with a better scan.
Beautiful drawing except that her hair still looks too light. Could be due to the scan though. Anyway the drawing resembles her picture very well ;)

Cooney
12-23-2006, 08:35 PM
The hair is a bit light, though that looks a lot like the 16 year old version of her, when she had lighter highlights and/or sun-fading that made her hair lighter colored. A very nice drawing, either way :-)

neoteny
12-27-2006, 09:56 AM
guess who....

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neoteny
12-27-2006, 10:38 AM
how 'bout now?

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neoteny
12-27-2006, 10:40 AM
you're getting closer...

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neoteny
12-27-2006, 10:47 AM
good job. i knew you could do wit.

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TurinSZ
12-27-2006, 05:35 PM
its the french girl from the davinci code Audrey Tautou :)

Luc
12-27-2006, 06:48 PM
its the french girl from the davinci code Audrey Tautou :)
Yes it's her, great drawing neoteny !! I noticed your previous versions yesterday but I didn't recognize her then. Now I do, the mysterious dark eyes, her beautiful mouth, very nice :)
I hope Amelie will see it. Audrey Tautou is her favorite actress and she choose her name because of another famous movie in which Audrey Tautou had the leading role: Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain.

TurinSZ
12-27-2006, 06:51 PM
Do i get a prize neoteny lol

Rocket
12-27-2006, 11:21 PM
Very nice drawing neoteny !
I can't judge whether the resemblance of the drawing is good or not because I haven't seen a picture of Rocket. If it's good then I agree with Amelie she's a pretty girl :o

You can judge for yourself. I like it.

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=4809

Amelie
12-28-2006, 07:29 AM
wow, neoteny, very well done! but i think, i prefer your Alizee paintings
and Luc is right about my nick and that she is my favourite actress.

Luc
12-28-2006, 08:48 AM
You can judge for yourself. I like it.

http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=4809

Yes I had already seen the photo. About a month ago you lost several pictures and you created a thread about it. When you posted you had found them back, I remembered the drawing that neoteny made ;)

I'm happy you have the photos back. You are very pretty indeed :o
I remember the drawing that neoteny made of your Looking good picture, he posted it here:
http://www.moi-alizee.us/forums/showthread.php?p=15906#post15906

It's a nice drawing and the resemblance is really good. My compliments to neoteny again. But looking at the photos I see you are even more beautiful :o :)

neoteny
12-28-2006, 08:58 AM
i'd like to do Rocket's portrait again. if only shed gimme a bigger picture of herself everything would be dandy. anyway Audrey's almost done. gimme another day or two for my attempt to 'perfect' and i'll post it up. side shot face of Alizee from La Isla Bonita is coming right after...

i think all of you will like that one. you should see it... my cameras not working :( SHITe

aFrenchie
12-28-2006, 09:18 AM
wow, neoteny, very well done! but i think, i prefer your Alizee paintings
His Audrey drawing is still awesome! :eek: Congrats neoteny :)

Amelie
12-28-2006, 11:40 AM
neoteny, PAINT MYLENE!!!!!!!!

jeroh
12-28-2006, 04:37 PM
cmn! u heard her!

Amelie
12-28-2006, 04:41 PM
i have to repeat or you heard neoteny?

neoteny
12-29-2006, 09:13 AM
yes i heard you. no need to repeat. ;) i'll get started...

Amelie
12-29-2006, 09:29 AM
yes i heard you. no need to repeat. ;) i'll get started...

you're awesome

neoteny
12-29-2006, 09:29 AM
no im not...

you're awesome

Amelie
12-29-2006, 09:34 AM
no, i'm not! you are awesome! just paint, paint!!

neoteny
12-29-2006, 09:41 AM
can i relax first...i just got back from the work place. :wub: oh that reminds me, i gotta call mark and ask him to bring home the goods. :cool:

RMJ
12-29-2006, 05:45 PM
Looks like KLSADAKO finished his drawing during the vacation... and it's fucking amazing ! Here's snatcher's summary post of the "evolution" of the drawing ! Look at that last drawing !! :eek:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,721168.html#721168

brad
12-29-2006, 05:48 PM
that is damn amazing ..

riva2model64
12-29-2006, 05:49 PM
final.....(to me)

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sry if I'm a bit late but I had
to say this is totally awesome. .:eek:

HibyPrime
12-29-2006, 05:58 PM
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2b or not 2b :D

I only wish I came up with that myself haha

neoteny
12-29-2006, 07:13 PM
i feel zealous. thats wrong. the drawings flawless. yikes.

neoteny
12-29-2006, 07:15 PM
2b or not 2b :D

I only wish I came up with that myself haha

what do you mean? im not done with it yet. i swear...

HibyPrime
12-29-2006, 07:46 PM
what do you mean? im not done with it yet. i swear...

2b, as in, one of these things

http://guineapig.article7.co.uk/imager/pencil.jpg

neoteny
12-29-2006, 07:47 PM
oh. how could i miss that. im losing it.

Sir Wood
12-29-2006, 09:13 PM
Looks like KLSADAKO finished his drawing during the vacation... and it's fucking amazing ! Here's snatcher's summary post of the "evolution" of the drawing ! Look at that last drawing !! :eek:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,721168.html#721168
Yup, the final is absolutely magnificent! I liked how they did an overlay of the drawing and the original for comparison.

O Rly
12-30-2006, 03:36 AM
Looks like KLSADAKO finished his drawing during the vacation... and it's fucking amazing ! Here's snatcher's summary post of the "evolution" of the drawing ! Look at that last drawing !! :eek:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,721168.html#721168

Wow, that's amazing! :eek:

rwd716
12-30-2006, 03:43 AM
2b, as in, one of these things

http://guineapig.article7.co.uk/imager/pencil.jpg

Lol, I didn't think of that either. I guess I'm too used to the "internet" typing.

neoteny
01-03-2007, 05:15 PM
i thought it would be nice to let you guys see this particular drawing in one of its earlier stages. i've only been drawing it for 6 hours now. yeah. only six hours and this is how far i've gotten. as for your request for me to draw your favorite singer Amelie, im workin on it. just give me a few years. and Alizee's side shot from La Isla Bonita's comin too. the first few drawings of 2007 are on its way and more afterwards. ooh Amelie, you gotta see Mylene, she's lookin' good! and Audrey too for that matter.

can't wait for you all to see them.

preview
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Sir Wood
01-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Wow, you use a mechanical pencil to do your drawings?

You're alot better than I thought! (j/k) ;)

General Patton
01-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Dam neoteny you got talent. My art...well its hard to tell whether or not its art...

SupaKrupa
01-04-2007, 09:31 AM
As long as you express yourself, it's considered art :) . So when I type this, it's probably art.

Art is anything to be honest... Apparently England universities have a course called "Bachelor of Arts" there and it's a business course... (unless someone corrects me). They consider business an art.

Great drawing once again, neoteny! THAT is art, learning business is not :p

neoteny
01-04-2007, 11:07 AM
Wow, you use a mechanical pencil to do your drawings?


yeah. i still use the traditional pencil, but a mechanical pencil maintains a fine point. and for me, thats a dream come true. :o

Amelie
01-04-2007, 11:15 AM
very beautiful, neoteny, but i think, it's not the best one you have. and i used to use mechanical pencil too, but when i broke (oops) it i started to use tradicional pencil again. and i love traditional pencil anyway...

neoteny
01-04-2007, 11:17 AM
im not finished with it yet silly.

neoteny
01-06-2007, 10:26 PM
just so you guys know i've scanned some of the drawings. i pointed them out so you all wouldn't have to play the guessing game. i gotta say they look pretty damn good. just dont look at them in their original size! even though it isnt their original size. they look horrible that way. looks like im i may need switch from sketch paper to something smoother. thanks for lookin'.

post script: yes i finally have a scanner!

brad
01-06-2007, 10:31 PM
just so you guys know i've scanned some of the drawings. i pointed them out so you all wouldn't have to play the guessing game. i gotta say they look pretty damn good. just dont look at them in their original size! even though it isnt their original size. they look horrible that way. looks like im i may need switch from sketch paper to something smoother. thanks for lookin'.

post script: yes i finally have a scanner!

here is a link for the lazy (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=1460) ... those are really good neotney :D

i like this one (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4468&g2_imageViewsIndex=1&g2_GALLERYSID=9cc65fab1eda81f1988456f0f845805d) especially

neoteny
01-06-2007, 10:48 PM
thanks admin. i'll scan that eventually. but i dont know if i wanna do that...:o

oh yeah, im almost done. can ya feel the excitement...im sure you all can. :rolleyes:

DJ_Greg
01-07-2007, 01:57 AM
just so you guys know i've scanned some of the drawings. i pointed them out so you all wouldn't have to play the guessing game. i gotta say they look pretty damn good. just dont look at them in their original size! even though it isnt their original size. they look horrible that way. looks like im i may need switch from sketch paper to something smoother. thanks for lookin'.

post script: yes i finally have a scanner!


How were you getting them onto the computer before? Digital camera?

Congrats on the scanner, by the way. The scans look great! (Especially this one (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=5121), which is probably my favorite).

nurvonic
01-07-2007, 02:28 AM
How were you getting them onto the computer before? Digital camera?

Congrats on the scanner, by the way. The scans look great! (Especially this one (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=5121), which is probably my favorite).

yeah he used a digital cam

this (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=5131) one is my favorite:)

Sir Wood
01-07-2007, 07:35 PM
Where are your scan pics at? I'm too lazy to look. (j/k)


I like this one (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=4464). :)

RMJ
01-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Merci pour les scans neoteny !

Ils sont très beau !

neoteny
04-06-2007, 12:35 PM
psst. hi Alizee fans. i miss all of you. im an ass. im sorry, but can you blame me for all the troubles i go through in life? no you cannot. for some of you that care i've been away for several reasons... and those reasons are.............. for me and me alone! anyway... i thought i might try something different with these drawings or this drawing in particular. i know you guys know i can draw pretty well (at least i hope some of you guys do) so i thought i might try something different with this scanner. so here it is. along with what it originally looks like. and Amelie...i have to be honest with you, you are just incredible. youre gorgeous, talented and all that jazz. i've seen all your new portraits and i lov'em them all. and i sure as hell love your song. i've been going through some tough times here and i never have any spare time for myself. hope you guys can understand that. your drawing of Mylene isnt done. i know i know...you can yell at me. i deserve. i'll see you guys around soon. really soon. and for those i didnt say happy birthday to, well...HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

-LOVE KNEEOTKNEe


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