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HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 03:01 PM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4398/alizeevectorqo4.png

For those of you who have to clue what this is for, it is just removes alot of the detail, usually for sigs and bg's that are designed to be simple. BTW, I'm not very good at doing it :P

This one took about 3 hours.

PS. I hate drawing noses

riva2model64
09-22-2006, 03:16 PM
hey hiby

Alizee is cute, but
I'm afraid I don't get it

drawing, then vector?
I don't get it
whats vector

that's looks like the photoshop filter cutout does

brad
09-22-2006, 03:16 PM
very cool ... the best part about a vector is that once you get it right .. you can resize it to literally any size without any quality loss.

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 03:19 PM
that's looks like the photoshop filter cutout does

It's close, but the thing with this is that I could change the file size to 10 000' x 10 000' at a billion dpi with absolutley zero loss in quality.

Besides, the photoshop filter never cuts out the parts I want it to

heres one I did a few days ago, took about 6 hours - http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4310/trinitybloodvectortu8.png

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 03:26 PM
I don't get it
whats vector

hmm, hard to explain... I guess the best explanation is an image with very few colours, usually no gradients, and has clearly defined lines.

heres a very good example of a vector, it's probably the best I have ever seen (I did not make it, obviously) http://www.gamerenders.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=250957

Twitch
09-22-2006, 04:19 PM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4398/alizeevectorqo4.png
BTW, I'm not very good at doing it :P

Don't be so negative, you're quite good at it.:) If you're looking to create something closer to a photograph try using the Mesh radient tool, here's a link with examples.
http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/07/worlds-most-photorealistic-vector-art.html

And for those who care vector based images are a saved as a set mathematically determined shapes (coordinates and vectors) which are generated by the computer when opened. Scaling doesn't affect quality because they are defined by mathematical equations which need only to be modified (to enlarge the distance between coordinates is increased). Also vector based graphics do not support photographic images, although talented people can get quite close.

Raster images (JPEG, BMP, etc...) are based on a matrix of pixels. Higher quality means more pixels for each section of the matrix and larger files. Scaling affects quality because the computer can only guess at what pixels should be where in the matrix so when increasing file size quality is sacrificed for size, and generally not recommended.

RMJ
09-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Very nice, you have some skills on vector graphics.

But your explanation of vector graphics sucks. :p It is true that most of the vector graphics don't have gradients but nothing prevents using them either, since it's one basic feature of vector shape. The gradient is as scalable as anything else in the graphics. Also, countless of other fill styles exists. The "clearly defined lines" is not either property of vector graphics. It's just property of the drawing style you have chosen. Vector graphics can have fuzzy lines, like any other graphics. It's all about the drawing style.

What really separates vector graphics from raster graphics is the fact how the image is build. Raster graphics consists of pixels (or dots in lithography). Vector graphics is build using mathematical primitives (points, lines, curves, polygons). The math behind those primitives gives the vector graphic it's greatest property, scalability. If you want twice as big image, you just need to multiply all the primitives by two, and you have twice as big graphics with equal resolution. When raster is just a array of bits, vector is array of mathematical formulas.

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 04:30 PM
Very nice, you have some skills on vector graphics.

ty

The "clearly defined lines" is not either property of vector graphics. It's just property of the drawing style you have chosen.

There are many styles of vector art, and I was reffering to the style I was using - same with my comment on gradients.

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 04:47 PM
If you're looking to create something closer to a photograph try using the Mesh radient tool

where is this mesh radient tool you speak of, I only see a mesh tool - and I have no idea how to use it (Illustrator newbie at your service)

Twitch
09-22-2006, 05:26 PM
where is this mesh radient tool you speak of, I only see a mesh tool - and I have no idea how to use it (Illustrator newbie at your service)

Sorry I meant Mesh Gradient, that was a typo:o , but it is the mesh tool. It was called Gradient Mesh Tool in older versions of Illustrator. Basically it lets you create a flexible mesh where each point on it is a gradient. You can add or delete points and manipulate the mesh very much like you do the rest of the artwork in Illustrator. It takes a while to get used but. Your best bet is to just experiment with it and maybe try using an online tutorial.

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 05:47 PM
Yeah I got it now..

And I thought the pen tool was hard to learn how to use...

nurvonic
09-22-2006, 06:04 PM
wow that is one scary picture of alizee....but cute at the same time, cuz hey, its alizee!! good job Hippy:p

Twitch
09-22-2006, 06:06 PM
No kidding, I myself don't use Illustrator enough to know but the basics of gradient meshes but here are some larger jpegs of what can be done by those who do. And if you ever get the chance to get an original vector version of something this complicated it can be quite fun and helpful to dissect it all apart and see how it was all put together.

http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/9/e/Keira_Knightley_by_mftalon.jpg (http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/9/e/Keira_Knightley_by_mftalon.jpg)
http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/8/2/Mesh_in_Progress____by_mftalon.jpg

Ya I know to bad they aren't of Alizée right?

HibyPrime
09-22-2006, 06:32 PM
No kidding, I myself don't use Illustrator enough to know but the basics of gradient meshes but here are some larger jpegs of what can be done by those who do. And if you ever get the chance to get an original vector version of something this complicated it can be quite fun and helpful to dissect it all apart and see how it was all put together.

http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/9/e/Keira_Knightley_by_mftalon.jpg (http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/9/e/Keira_Knightley_by_mftalon.jpg)
http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/051/8/2/Mesh_in_Progress____by_mftalon.jpg

Ya I know to bad they aren't of Alizée right?

cant access those - "forbidden"

RMJ
09-22-2006, 06:49 PM
cant access those - "forbidden"

Open the page like you did earlier and then hit enter on it's address bar. It will load it again and this time it will work.

The forbidden text is to prevent hotlinking directly to the image. The file must be accessed from their server.

Urb4n
09-22-2006, 07:35 PM
heres one I did a few days ago, took about 6 hours - http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4310/trinitybloodvectortu8.png

Whaoh, thats one ugly Alizee drawing.

DJ_Greg
09-22-2006, 08:05 PM
Very interesting stuff in this thread.

General Patton
09-22-2006, 08:26 PM
Great job!
I have never been gooded at photoshop and all those programs...

Twitch
09-23-2006, 12:12 AM
Sorry about the links, this one is to the page, the second image containing the wireframe is linked in the artists comments. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/29374188/ Just in case the hotlinked ones stop working or anoy the admin at deviantART. Which also contains Alizée wallpapers and fan art. http://search.deviantart.com/?section=browse&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5&q=Alizee

riva2model64
09-23-2006, 11:00 AM
Great job!
I have never been gooded at photoshop and all those programs...

neither have I patton

I making an Alizée shirt, but I a feared to post it here
cause the more experienced ones will point and laugh at me

HibyPrime
09-23-2006, 11:24 AM
neither have I patton

I making an Alizée shirt, but I a feared to post it here
cause the more experienced ones will point and laugh at me

No we wont, we were all at that point once.

NANAKI
09-23-2006, 11:43 AM
No we wont, we were all at that point once.

yeah put up a picture we want to see and if Patton gives you trouble than we'll deal with it ;) :D

General Patton
09-23-2006, 12:22 PM
yeah put up a picture we want to see and if Patton gives you trouble than we'll deal with it ;) :D

LOL
What are you going to do to me Nanaki??

NANAKI
09-23-2006, 01:09 PM
LOL
What are you going to do to me Nanaki??

depends on what you do

General Patton
09-23-2006, 06:25 PM
depends on what you do
LOL!
Ok...I am soooooo scaried...

marik
07-03-2007, 04:12 AM
Don't be so negative, you're quite good at it.:) If you're looking to create something closer to a photograph try using the Mesh radient tool, here's a link with examples.
http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/07/worlds-most-photorealistic-vector-art.html

And for those who care vector based images are a saved as a set mathematically determined shapes (coordinates and vectors) which are generated by the computer when opened. Scaling doesn't affect quality because they are defined by mathematical equations which need only to be modified (to enlarge the distance between coordinates is increased). Also vector based graphics do not support photographic images, although talented people can get quite close.

Raster images (JPEG, BMP, etc...) are based on a matrix of pixels. Higher quality means more pixels for each section of the matrix and larger files. Scaling affects quality because the computer can only guess at what pixels should be where in the matrix so when increasing file size quality is sacrificed for size, and generally not recommended.

hey that link was a Filipino site! cool!