[2010-01-05] Alizée in TECHNIKART Magazine

[Merci Alizée]

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Translation by Backinblack:
The summer of 2000, she entered into our homes. In winter 2010, she's entering into us.

Alizée: Like a Hurricane

Ten years ago was the Alizée tornado; more than two million "Moi... Lolita"s flew off the shelves of French supermarkets. The sizzling pop star is coming back with an album that'll set the trend for the 2010s: a creative and charming return to the mainstream.

It's cliché but true: unlike all the little hyped phonies, Alizée, a working-class artist, isn't the least bit snobby. We spent an entire afternoon photo shoot with her. The pop star turned out to be the nicest person in the room. Like an old classmate from our Jean Moulin high school; neither a prissy left-bank hip chick, nor a slutty showoff, Alizée symbolizes a current trend that gets talked about less and less in the media (which is too occupied with selling trash). Forced to tour Mexico with bodyguards, she gets hounded by paparazzi in France, has sold millions of records, but arrives ready to go and early for our meeting the following day, having just dropped off her daughter at a pre-school in the middle-class 13th arrondissement of Paris.

On paper, we weren't exactly fascinated with her new project, her fourth album, Une Enfant du siècle. A mainstream singer hiring a bunch of well-connected producers isn't that suprising anymore, but it could have been a slick move; she's buying credibility for cheap, and the clever little composers are plowing the postmodern terrain on a theme currently in vogue: the icons of Andy Warhol's Factory. Listening to the album brought smiles to our faces. Well, it doesn't have that bohemian or folk Habitat sound. The two parts are nicely harmonized. Chateau Marmont, Rob, and David Rubato, big-time composers and top-flight producers, carved out songs that are both modern and vintage, à la Kim Wilde or Valerie Dore; in other words, delicious, fresh, catchy, melancholic, spontaneous--sparkly on the outside, subtle on the inside. These days only Lily Allen, with her more beat-up look, sings similar-sounding jingles that are, paradoxically, more engaging rather than quickly forgotten. It's mainstream, as necessitated by Alizée's celebrity status. More than anything, though, it's pop.

It's snowing outside and it's freezing inside. Alizée's wrapped in her overcoat, but through this musical blind test, she turns out to be both easygoing and outgoing at the same time.

Madonna, "La Isla Bonita"
"I had the album cover of Like a Virgin in my room! My dad was a fan, and I grew up with her songs. I've liked her less since the Music album; she continues to work with the latest sound styles, which is great, but she's less authentic, and her sexy look is a little worn-out. I sang "La Isla Bonita" on a Madonna TV special on France 2, six years ago. I have a very active fan base on the Internet, and my performance was put on YouTube, and there were two million views, including from people in Mexico who went completely crazy over it. That's how I became a star in Mexico. My version of "La Isla Bonita" became number one on Mexican radio, and I performed in a huge stadium there. They have a more spontaneous entertainment culture, and I love to go there, but I need bodyguards with me."

Teki Latex & Lio, "Les Matins de Paris"
"Teki Latex, from the band Institubes. We were looking for remixers for the singles from my previous album, Psychédélices, and David Rubato sent me a version of "Fifty Sixty" that I just loved. So I met the manager of David's label, Jean-René Etienne. He told me that he could find composers for me for my next album. I listened to some samples from Chateau Marmont and Rob, and I was captivated. I'm not huge on electronica, but these musicians proposed some samples that I just loved. As for Lio, I like "Banana Split" and "Les brunes comptent pas pour des prunes." She's had a good career. Popular yet strong-willed. I don't know what I'll be like at her age. I'm a singer, so it'll depend on who I work with in the future."

Mylène Farmer, "Libertine"
"I owe her a lot, of course. It was a real opportunity to meet the two of them, her and Laurent Boutonnat. She was a well-known, established singer, who took me under my wing when I was 15, when they noticed me on M6, on the TV show Graines de star. She protected me a lot, until I separated from her when I was 19. Thanks to her, I've been able to experience some really incredible things and sell a lot of records. I learned a lot, artistically speaking, as well as in business matters--I'm now a producer on my albums. I didn't feel manipulated by the songs she wrote for me; I was 15, I liked the songs, the clothes I wore were fine... When I realized the double entendres in the songs, it didn't bother me, because the lyrics were very well-written. In the end, though, I did get the impression that I was a product, and so I started suggesting things that were more personal and less sexy, and that's where our differences began. We separated, however, on good terms."

Vanessa Paradis, "Joe Le Taxi"
"When you love pop music, you dream of a career like hers. She began even younger than me. Before "Moi... Lolita" exploded on the scene, I was warned: Vanessa got taken advantage of because of her young success. She had to clean up the mess, but I've been lucky that things have gone well for me. I didn't have a normal adolescence, but at least I had one. Despite my success, I still lived in Ajaccio. When I had to go to Paris, my mother came with me. I took classes by correspondence. But when I reached #1 in 22 countries with my first album, I had to stop my studies, while I was in 11th grade. You can still learn culture on your own, and in any case, even with a diploma, people still aren't finding jobs these days."

Julien Doré, "Moi... Lolita"
"A musician from La Nouvelle Star sent me a message one afternoon to tell me that he was going to do a remake of the song on the prime-time show that evening. When I watched him on TV, I didn't think he was making fun of me at all. I don't know if he was making fun, and I don't really care. I'm not a fan, and a lot of people thought he massacred the song. It got talked about a lot, and Mylène and Laurent must have made a lot more money. I sold two and half million copies of that single, the 29th-best selling French single of all time. I didn't touch any of that money until I turned 18. I even got to #9 in England and I did the Top of the Pops! In Japan, it was "J'en ai marre" that made the top of the charts. To release an album there, you have to do certain things, like associating the music to something else, so I did a TV commercial there for some Japanese cookies along with the song. That's how the song got big there, and people started listening to it in the streets of Tokyo."

Mika, "Relax (Take It Easy)"
"I sang this song at Les Enfoirés, with Christophe Maé, Patrick Fiori and Nolwenn Leroy. Les Enfoirés is very exclusive. I did it in 2001, when I was 16, and have done it four times since then. It's the exclusive club of French showbiz and French variété. A big change from Institubes. I want to make this big change, even though in France it can be complicated. Still, it's good to be interested in a bit of everything."

Bob Dylan, "Like a Rolling Stone"
"When I was little, I was sung to sleep by the Beatles, Aznavour, Joe Dassin, Simon & Garfunkel, but not Dylan. New folk, Carla Bruni? No. I listen to it, I mean, I bought Charlotte Gainsbourg, but I've done 15 years of dance, and I prefer music that really moves. I'm not so much into the bohemian culture. It moves a lot of people, but it's very French, very Parisian, and my culture is more pop, I'm from a more middle-class, provincial background. I lived in Corsica until I was 18. Dylan talks about Edie Sedgwick? Jean Fauque's the one who talked to me about her."

Bashung, "La nuit je mens"
"Here's one written by Jean Fauque. He wrote "Fifty Sixty" for me, inspired by the New Yorkers like Sedgwick, or Maripol, her stylist sister who rubbed shoulders with Jean-Michel Basquiat, Blondie, and also Madonna at the time. I met Maripol through Mylène, and she gave me some bracelets that Madonna used to wear. I then met Jean Fauque. It wasn't until much later that I learned that they were brother and sister! They came to dinner one evening at my place, where Jean told us some of his anecdotes, and I understood that "Fifty Sixty" was about these people from New York City. I liked the theme and the lyrics, so we said, why not make an album around Edie Sedgwick, from the Warholian universe? I'm not at all like them, with the drugs and everything, but it's still fascinating, not for their way of living, but for the excitement of that group of people and of New York City."

Taxi Girl, "Cherchez le garçon"
"This is one of the sounds that I love. Mirwais had worked with Madonna, and Daniel Darc worked with me. I met him at the Plan, the concert hall in Ris-Orangis (a suburb of Paris). I went to his concert because I liked his album Crèvecoeur, and I asked him to participate in the Psychédélices album with Fauque and Burgalat. So he wrote two songs for me, really dark ones, completely different from my own universe..."

Kim Wilde, "Cambodia"
"A big hit from before I was born. I don't think she had many hits? After the success of "Moi... Lolita," I was very afraid of disappearing from the music scene. I put my confidence in Mylène and Laurent, that they would write other hits for me, but when I left them, I was really worried; like Nena (whose song "99 Red Balloons" I sang in Mexico, by the way), being a one-hit wonder. So I'm trying to not do songs that are too complicated, but at the same time being ambitious artistically. Psychédélices was a disque d'or in France, but people had written it off as a failure. I was fortunate to be able to count on the Mexican music market, which was huge. I did a TV scene in a soap opera there, which was seen by 75 million people!

Lorie, "Play"
"when you make music for children, it's hard to disassociate yourself from that. I waited until 2003 to do my first real concerts, seven shows in a row at the Olympia. I didn't really know what my audience would look like, and I was even afraid that it would mainly be kids. But it was a very diverse crowd: kids, parents, gays, young people my age, 18-year-olds, everyone. My fans have grown up with me, whereas with Lorie, it's still pretty much young kids. I did see that she wanted to change, and that she's done some sexy photo shoots.

Chateau Marmont, "Diane"
Rob, "King Lover"
"I'm very glad to have escaped from the whole 90s showbiz scene with them, and the relationship I have with them is just great; it's a very human relationship. On "Coeur fendre," Chateau Marmont proposed several versions to me; some sounded very Nintendo-like, others sounded like Moroder. They have a large palette of music, and a very recognizable sound that I love. Like Rob, they are very good with melody, which is so important--that's what I love, and that's what the public gets hooked on. I don't understand why they don't sell very many records. Surely it's because they were slapped with a trendy label and not a bohemian one. It used to be, "the fewer records I sell, the more respect I'll get", so they got slapped with that label, when all they really wanted was to sell records, which they really deserved. I hope that with my album, people will get more interested in them. I'm proud that they are using me to reach a wider audience. As for me, I worked with them not to be trendier, but for the quality of their sounds and their melodies. If I become more trendy, that's fine, but I don't want to give up my mainstream status!"

Jeanette, "Porque te vas"
"One of Rob's favorite songs. He wrote "La candida" for me with this one in mind. I like to sing in Spanish, so if my Mexican fans like it..."

Lily Allen, "Fuck You"
"I was still listening to the album in the car on the way here! The sound could be a little better, but the songs are really good. Listening to her songs, I said to myself that that's something I could sing now; I see lots of things in common with my own tastes. And she's gotten a lot of exposure now, so it's a good comparison--even if she has a trashy side that I don't have, maybe because she's English. I've never taken drugs, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and at first, they wanted pass me off as a naughty girl, but no, I'm too modest for that. I don't know how these trashy people do it. That wasn't in my upbringing. Maybe it's holding back my image for now, but not for the long-term. I want to be here long-term."

This is Roman’s translation of the interview with “Rob” from the Technikart special magazine.

Wrapping it up with…
Rob, a composer of Alizée’s

In one hour, the 116 pages of this special edition goes to the printer. And Rob just send us a mail. Let’s include it in a retro-prospective report.

“I only compose hits. But, of another time it would seem.” (Brendan Benson, page 92)

Rob was 19 when he recorded, in 2001, “Don’t Kill”. “Satyred Love” was released the next year. Two admirable and ambitious albums inextricably entangled with the influences of major 70s composers: McCartney (II), Korgis, Alan Parsons, Kevin Ayers, Roger Hodgson... Result: flop. Mail from Rob: “I create, however, to speak to the world, to the greatest number. But, I choose the most sinuous roads, my personal works take an irregular form. I don’t expect to sell millions of them. I look to go to the heart of my sensibilities, not those of the radios.”

“To fully dominate, one must always be fighting.” (Phœnix, page 72)

After these two commercial failures, Rob became the keyboardist for Phoenix on tour. He sent us his message while he was in the United States with them. “Show business is a filthy beast. I’m am in the middle of learning the workings of the American system at the moment and the music doesn’t make much difference there, it’s much more about politics. The general level of music is not very satisfactory, it is very rare to be moved by our contemporaries, but the indie advances into the mainstream are a good thing. I am delighted to see my friends from Phoenix pierce the membrane.”

“Once an artist becomes publicized, he passes into the mainstream category.” (Valli, page 91)

In 2007, Rob found himself working on a Melissa Mars album with… Pascal Obispo. Only the latter is squatting on the tv.

“The quality of a work is judged according to it’s influence in the long run.” (Julian Casablancas, page 97)

Rob is recording until next June “The Dodecalogue”, which will be a collection of the maxis (dedicated to the twelve apostles) which he releases each month. Sébastien Tellier is participating in “Volume IV”.

“Reaching the mainstream produces collateral damage.” (Peter Hook, page 30)

There was a time when the image of mainstream was to scary, certain artists preferred to go “misunderstood”, with an altitude of sales that approached that of the sea. As a composer connected with the in crowd, Rob, have you had the impression of putting your credibility in peril by working with Alizée? “On the contrary, I don’t see any risk as long as the music is good…” [Alizée seemed to have a similar fear, a fear that she could not handle trying to enter the American market. I’m not sure that she no longer has that fear. Valli said, once one is publicized they are mainstream. I think I get that idea. It’s like, the display of desire to be considered mainstream may be enough to give a person the chance to participate in popular events and get their music played. If it gets played in the usual places, unless it’s really out there, I guess it can be called mainstream in a very shallow analysis. I think the public will be the ones to decide. Well, either that or the question is more about what they as producers have to deal with than what we as audience experience. Obviously, as is being pointed out, the benefit to having a mainstream status is that people don’t just dismiss the music and artist off-hand as not being mainstream and thus not being worth the time for someone who is dedicated to working in the mainstream. We were quite ready to say that Alizée had stepped out of the mainstream, maybe because of these hors-courant people she is working with and because she seemed to be changing or darkening her image contrary to greater popularity, (though opinions may differ). Funny, so it’s more the other way around now?]

“Still, it was something” (“Just an update” from Jackie Quartz, page 65)

“I come from the generation “moved” by the work of Mylène Farmer, but I prefer by far the videos to the songs… I continue to be fascinated by the video for “Pourvu qu’elles soient douces” ("Provided they are sweet”, Rob writes us. “Moi… Lolita”, it’s a theme that works so well, it’s proven, I thought “what nerve!”

“I thought the era to be over, I decided that I would write for others.” (Alain Chamfort, page 10)

“I love putting myself in the service of a singer, with Alizée I have the impression of not having to adapt my manner of working. She simply says “no” when she doesn’t like something. She is very sure of her tastes. I tried to make the most beautiful songs in the world, just thinking about her.” [He he, now he sounds like an Alizée fan. Mouahahaha!]

“I try to make ambitious songs. I want to last.” (Alizée, page 35)

Rob composed three bits on « Une enfant du siècle » (A child of the century). “She is at an enormous turning point in her career, in the middle of reconstruction. I think her image is going to change tremendously. So, the pressure is more artistic than commercial. The idea is that of a symbolic rebirth of an artist. Basically, to work with a mainstream singer is neither a dream nor a nightmare, it’s just good to work with people who are “habités” (talented or know what they are doing?). Alizée is that.

collected by Benoît Sabatier


Interview with the interviewer
From le post: http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html
Translation by Roman:
Alizée as Madonna on the cover of Technikart: why her?

It's a cover that has causes a lot of gossip in the last 24 hours on Twitter: the singer Alizée choose the journal Technikart to make her media return for the occasion of the release of her new album, "Une Enfant du Siècle".

If the very presence of the discrete singer immortalized as Madonna creates an event, the choice of Alizée to represent a special issue of Technikart - the height of hype in print - has what it takes to surprise.

On Le Post, Benoît Sabatier, editor in chief of this issue, recounts his meeting with Alizée and the backstage of a frank interview.

We really didn't expect to see Alizée on the cover of a Techikart music special, how did you come to make this choice?
"It's true that at Technikart we have an image of being pioneers, and in music we often give the privilege to new-comers like Koudlam or VV Brown... But, what interests us in the first place is decrypting pop-culture, it's impact on our lives, on society.

Ten years ago, we had miss Britney Spears on the cover when I met her in Miami. Our cover has also welcomed big artists like Christophe, Justin Timberlake and Madonna, with long in-depth interviews!

Today, the choice of Alizée is not particularly incongruent, all the more so because 1) she produced her album with artists whom I have always particularly liked, Chateau Marmont and Rob, and 2) she corresponds ideally to the general theme that I chose for this music special edition: the mainstream." (note: the mainstream traditionally denotes the current dominant musical genres: rock, hip-hop and variety (variétés--it's a French thing).)

Alizée is an artist rarely in the media: did she accept easily?
"All throughout 2009, I regularly wrote about the connection between music of the "general public", mainstream, and artists top in their segment, confidential [underground?], noting that the border had become more and more porous throughout the 2000s.

Every year, in January, I run a music special edition. For this January 2010 issue, I decided to play this angle in 116 pages: there is an exciting development to analyze and I have a real devotion to popular music.

We needed an idea to cover. I immediately thought of Alizée, as I had known that she was in the process of working with the connected label Institubes on a new album.

I contacted the record company in November, not knowing if 1) they would accept 2) if the timing would correspond. The responses were positive to these two questions: straightaway my request was accepted with enthusiasm!"

How did your meeting go? The selection of disks?
"I first met Alizée at the shoot for the cover. I wanted her, in order to push the mainstream angle, to pose in a reproduction of an album label that marked the history of pop.

We sent some proposals, the choice stopped at "Like a Virgin" from Madonna. She lent herself to the shoot with pleasure, the atmosphere was very nice, and we agreed to do the interview the next morning, so that it would be a blind test, again to stay in the theme, with mainstream hits.

Blind, so she did not know the list, that I selected in a very professional manner, based on her life, based on what I wanted to know about her: a blind test is an excellent indirect method to gently bring up delicate questions and dig into the life of an artist."

Was there a response from Alizée that particularly surprised you?
"She lent herself to the game joyfully and had an answer for everything, speaking each time with enthusiasm and frankness with regard to the connection between the hit I played and her life: the anxiety of remaining a one hit wonder, the separation with Mylène Farmer, bad sales, the reprise of Julien Doré, being number 1 at 15 years of age, a star in Mexico, her connection with the elite, her coquettish image, her collaborations with Daniel Darc and the lyricist of Bashung... [note: to remind you, Jean Fauque also wrote for Bashung who is really big in France (see wikipedia)]

An hour and a half to listen to music and discuss in relaxation, joy and good humor."

Which other artists may one find in this special edition of Technikart?
"The special edition starts with 15 confidential [again, underground/unknown?] artists that we are defending (Hot Chip, Yeasayer, les Shades, These New Puritans…) who respond to a questionaire on the mainstream.

Some surveys follow, interviews, analyses and reports on the evolution of the general public music [note: I don't know how they can separate that from mainstream, to me they are synonymous], that goes from an article on Elton John's cocain years to a report with Camélia Jordana in studio in the process of recording her album while considering: the mainstream, the charts were yesterday, today are the niches (people, bobo, trash, cool, ado[lescents]...)...

The issue finished with this question posed to our guests: "Which hit marked a powerful moment in your life", responding to that question were: Frédéric Taddéi, Gaspar Noé, Jean-Charles de Castelbajac, Mathieu Kassovitz, Jonathan Frazen, Thierry Ardisson, Bertrand Burgalat, Moustic, etc…"


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l'interview prévue pour le magazine a été faite ! En attente du nom du magasine et de la date de sortie de celui-ci. + Description du site officiel qui annonce "discographie, biographie, photos et téléchargements"

The scheduled interview for the magazine was made! Waiting for the name and date alongwith official announcement of site Description "discography, biography, photos and downloads"

This is what I found from Psychalizee.net.
I didn't knew that she has been interviewed. Anybody know about this.

Please help in better translation of this.

[Maquis]

Yeah.

We're waiting on the magazine name and the date of release, and then we run to the store and go nuts.

[Merci Alizée]

Do you have any idea about this interview?

[Ben]

Do you have any idea about this interview?
Just that it's supposedly for a pretty major magazine. Will move this back into news when we have more details like name, date, etc.

Btw, the second part is just talking about the description of her official site on google...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4167/offp.png

[edgar93]

Do you have any idea about this interview?

yes, thanks to Jenny :

interview for the magazin is done! Waiting for the name and the release date. Description of the official site announces "discography, biography, photos and downloads".

---> The last means the google description of her website has changed


http://i50.tinypic.com/2iks10z.jpg

[wasabi622]

Anybody know which magazine? and more importantly, anyone here going to be getting said magazine?

[User22]

Anybody know which magazine? and more importantly, anyone here going to be getting said magazine?

and i know this is prob like super copyright infringement(i dunno), but will there be an online version of it or can someone type up the text once it comes out?swt thx

[Roman]

Usually someone puts up a scan. If you like what's inside, you might be able to buy it from Journaux.fr or some other web site. Magazines quickly go out of circulation though. You may need to buy within a week or month to get it.
It's a collector's thing to do, well and sometimes there are nice pictures and just having the magazine printout can be worth it if you're that into Alizée. (some people are)

[wildfire]

Yeah.

We're waiting on the magazine name and the date of release, and then we run to the store and go nuts.

I think I already started with the "going nutz" part

[User22]

Usually someone puts up a scan. If you like what's inside, you might be able to buy it from Journaux.fr or some other web site. Magazines quickly go out of circulation though. You may need to buy within a week or month to get it.
It's a collector's thing to do, well and sometimes there are nice pictures and just having the magazine printout can be worth it if you're that into Alizée. (some people are)

Hey thx for the heads up Roman, I'll definitely look around for it.

[Ben]

Alizée prochainement dans TECHNIKART

Comme promis :)
Le magazine sort cette semaine en kiosque !
Alizée est en couverture ! il y'a trois photos inédites, vous allez être très surpris :)
je n'en dis pas plus !!

3 pages :) sans compter l'énorme photo qui occupe une page !
puis après Chateau Marmont parle d'elle : 1 page
et ensuite Rob = 1 page :)


Alizée in the next issue of TECHNIKART

As promised :)
The magazine comes out on newsstands this week! [Note: Later she says it's actually "next week"]
Alizée is on the cover! There are three previously unpublished photos, you'll be very surprised :)
I say no more!

3 pages :) Not to mention the huge picture that takes a page!
Then after, Chateau Marmont talks about her: 1 page
and then Rob = 1 page:)

Site: http://www.technikart.com/

[Merci Alizée]

Alizée in the next issue of TECHNIKART

As promised :)
The magazine comes out on newsstands this week! [Note: Later she says it's actually "next week"]
Alizée is on the cover! There are three previously unpublished photos, you'll be very surprised :)
I say no more!

3 pages :) Not to mention the huge picture that takes a page!
Then after, Chateau Marmont talks about her: 1 page
and then Rob = 1 page:)

Site: http://www.technikart.com/

Finally we have the name of the magazine too. From last few days we are having some news everyday. Slowly and slowly we are getting close to the bigger event: the new album.

[lefty12357]

First, the Christmas song, and now this bit of news. It's really nice to see something happening after a long wait.

[User22]

First, the Christmas song, and now this bit of news. It's really nice to see something happening after a long wait.

Yep, its so nice to see activity. But savor the feeling of anxiousness, because before you know it the album will be out and old and....o well CARPADIUM!!!!

[Maquis]

Alizée in the next issue of TECHNIKART

As promised :)
The magazine comes out on newsstands this week! [Note: Later she says it's actually "next week"]
Alizée is on the cover! There are three previously unpublished photos, you'll be very surprised :)
I say no more!

3 pages :) Not to mention the huge picture that takes a page!
Then after, Chateau Marmont talks about her: 1 page
and then Rob = 1 page:)

Site: http://www.technikart.com/


!!!

j'ai le magazine sous les yeux, il y'a marqué janvier 2010, comme je l'ai dit plus haut c'est un TECHNIKART HORS SERIE MUSIQUE.

I have the magazine in front of me, it's noted January 2010, like I said above it's a TECHNIKART MUSIC SPECIAL ISSUE.


En kiosque le 31 Décembre! youhouh!At the newsstand on the 31st of December! youhouh!

Tic tac tic tac... :D

I'm already prepared.

[User22]

Does anyone know of any sites the magazine article will be on??? the Technikart site probably???

[Ben]

Journaux.fr usually carries these things. Here's the current issue:
http://www.journaux.fr/revue.php?id=113106

[User22]

Journaux.fr usually carries these things. Here's the current issue:
http://www.journaux.fr/revue.php?id=113106

Thanks Ben, but i guess if i was to buy it to see it on a site i would have to have a french CC, and im only 16 so I dont even have an American CC:( o well, I
guess i'll just look at the pics from the magazine, thanks anyways:)

[Ben]

im only 16 so I dont even have an American CC:(
Well I can't help you there, but American cards do work, I've ordered from them a lot. Ask mom or dad to help, and pull up an online translator. Make sure you buy the individual issue, and not subscribe to the whole magazine. ;)

[edgar93]

From Justalizee:

The title that accompanies alizée on the cover is "Who's the girl?".

Pour vous faire patienter jusqu'à la sortie Jeudi du magazine TECHNIKART, Justalizee.Com vous en livre quelques informations. On apprendra notamment dans l'interview que 4 titres ont été composés par Chateau-Marmont pour Alizée. Par ailleurs, le titre qui accompagne Alizée en couverture est WHO'S THE GIRL ? Rendez-vous demain pour d'autres informations.

[Plaz]

Thanks Ben, but i guess if i was to buy it to see it on a site i would have to have a french CC, and im only 16 so I dont even have an American CC:( o well, I
guess i'll just look at the pics from the magazine, thanks anyways:)

i was once in your position... best bet is to do as ben said and ask your parents or just wait for the scans to come...

[User22]

Well I can't help you there, but American cards do work, I've ordered from them a lot. Ask mom or dad to help, and pull up an online translator. Make sure you buy the individual issue, and not subscribe to the whole magazine. ;)

Man I feel so out of place being one of the young ones. And m&d will be like "Why the poo would you need our card to look at a stupid french magazine about your french crush" haha. actually they would just say no, but I'll def just wait for the scans to come. Thanks guys:D

[Toc De Mac]

Dernière information avant la sortie demain du magazine TECHNIKART, les mots d'Alizée qui terminent le dossier lui étant consacré : « J'essaie de faire des chansons ambitieuses. Je veux durer. ». Le reste et les premières photos officielles, c'est à découvrir demain en kiosques!

Translation (correct if wrong):
Last news before tomorrow's release of the magazine TECHNIKART, Alizée speaks the final words of the report dedicated to her: "[I try/I'm trying] to make ambitious songs. I want to last." The rest of it and the first official photos are to be discovered tomorrow at magazine stands!

[Merci Alizée]

Translation (correct if wrong):

It's good to read that she wants to have a long career and I do believe that she would certainly have one. This was also there on justalizee:

D'autres infos concernant le contenu du numéro hors-série spécial musique du magazine TECHNIKART qui sortira demain avec Alizée en couverture. L'interview d'Alizée est faite sous la forme d'un blind test, composé de 14 titres. Les photos qui accompagneront l'interview, ainsi que celle de la couverture, sont de SEB&ENZO, avec qui Alizée a déjà travaillé pour des photos promotionnelles de Psychédélices.

Additional information regarding the contents of special issue special music magazine Technikart be released tomorrow with Alizée cover. The interview of Alizée is done as a blind test, consisting of 14 tracks. The photos that accompany the interview, as well as coverage, are SEB & ENZO, with which Alizée has already worked for promotional photos of psychedelices.

[Sir Wood]

Man I feel so out of place being one of the young ones. And m&d will be like "Why the poo would you need our card to look at a stupid french magazine about your french crush" haha. actually they would just say no, but I'll def just wait for the scans to come. Thanks guys:D

You might also want to keep checking Ebay.fr too & use Paypal. ;)

[Fenris]

It seems the mag is delayed, as it neither shows up at Technikart.com nor are the French able to buy it at the kiosk atm.

Looks like it's Saturday at the earliest..but maybe some scans will be leaked before...

[User22]

You might also want to keep checking Ebay.fr too & use Paypal. ;)

thanks then:)

[Merci Alizée]

Magazine was not released on 31st. It will be released today or Monday. Anybody knows about the exact date of release???

[Toc De Mac]

Jipé just posted this: http://lillytown.forumactif.net/actualite-f1/alizee-prochainement-dans-technikart-t523-390.htm#15937

Is this from the Technikart shooting?

[Plaz]

dont see any pics in your post but are you meaning these pics?

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9573/29898.jpg

http://psychalizee.forum-actif.net/users/1912/12/02/81/avatars/298-27.jpg

they are black and white... someone mentioned they were goint to be that way for the magazine... my guess is yes they are from it... someones probably got an issue already...



anyone think she looks stoned in those pics?

[IncliningPizza]

dont see any pics in your post but are you meaning these pics?

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9573/29898.jpg

http://psychalizee.forum-actif.net/users/1912/12/02/81/avatars/298-27.jpg

they are black and white... someone mentioned they were goint to be that way for the magazine... my guess is yes they are from it... someones probably got an issue already...



anyone think she looks stoned in those pics?

About time. Well, maybe she's trying to imitate Sedgiwick, or whatever her name is, no? I think she's trying to go for Joan Jett.

[Sitting by the bay]

Nice!

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[Jenny_HRO87]

Nice!

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that's more than just nice^^

by the way the pic is inspired by Madonna ;)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4973/madonnalikeavirgin01.jpg

But Lili looks better^^

[wasabi622]

Nice!

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Oh snap!

That's something new. I couldn't even tell if it was Alizée or not! It's hwat. :cool:

Could this maybe be the new look for the new album?

[UniCom]

I will Have to Say.... Une Telle Beauté Pourrait Seulement venir d'elle.

[Plaz]

looks like she just brought sexy back!

[Tiwaz]

That was interesting. Fun to see how she develop, doing new things.
Btw, what amateur writes a name without capital letter? ;/ (or is it supposed to be a copy of madonnas font? I consider it to be blaspheme either way:P)

[Alex]

Nice!

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Holly Shhhhii.......!! I can't believe it! She looks beautiful!

This photo surprises me alot. This is something very interesting, although we don't know the other pics, I say that she could had changed her mind from "reserved Alizee" to a bit more revealing than what we saw during the Psych. era. Also like Jenny said, this was inspired by Madonna's photoshoot aswell, so could this new album also be inspired musically and rythmically by Madonna's style??

Yet, this could just be a normal photoshoot and the real new album image will wait to see. However this develops I am more than excited to see the final result :D and this photo is absolutely lovely:wub:

A little look back in the past....
http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/files/images/coveralizeefhm.png
http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/files/images/m_35f7789d96554d9a9456e407ed5db4c5.jpg
http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/wnjtr.jpg
...she's back to buisiness ;)

[Plaz]

i never liked the FHM photoshoot.. that lingerie made her boobs looked like cones...

[Deepwaters]

There is so much going on here -- I'm really looking forward to reading that interview.

The photo obviously does mimic the Madonna photo for Like A Virgin (one of my least favorite of her songs btw). But the title, Who's That Girl?, although also from Madonna, is not matched with the photo. And so this says to me that it's a question meant to be asked about Alizée. Who is she now? Someone new. Qui est cette fille ?

We'll find out. ;)

I think that something rather catastrophic happened during the course of Psychédélices, cresting when she canceled the Paris concert. We may never know the details, or on the other hand she might talk about them in this interview. Who knows? (Who's that girl?) But because of this thing that happened and resulted in the concert being canceled, she has redefined herself, and we're beginning to see the result.

This is going to be fun. :)

[Fenris]

This will certainly bring her attention, finally she seems to do things right!

And she looks wayyy better than Madonna ;)

Can't wait to learn how the french will react to this....but i can imagine that Lili had tons of fun posing this way! :)

[Deepwaters]

Ah -- I just noticed the "Boy Toy" on the belt. This is definitely Alizée playing a role, not a "new look" for her. (I think -- she's too young to be having a midlife crisis yet. :D)

[Roman]

Ah -- I just noticed the "Boy Toy" on the belt. This is definitely Alizée playing a role, not a "new look" for her. (I think -- she's too young to be having a midlife crisis yet. :D)

I think it is a way for Alizée to dress up really sexy and have an excuse since it's copying Madonna. Hey, use whatever excuse you need girl!! :D

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

I think she pulled it off much better than Madonna

[lefty12357]

Alizée looks absolutely beautiful ! As Alex was saying, this may be much like the FHM photoshoot and possibly not related to what we will see for the album cover and promo itself. I sure think this cover should create some buzz.

I can't wait to see what she does for the album. :)

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

Me neither lefty what look will she go for this year

[Plaz]

I sure think this cover should create some buzz.

according to Jérémy, their doing it right this time...

[Fenris]

I agree, this is just a Hommage to her Idol and not her new look...anyway, shows again what a stunner and amazing beauty this woman is.
Merci Lilly!

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

still i would love to hear at least a sampler of her comming up songs

[Deepwaters]

Yeah, if this were a new look, bear in mind who had that look to begin with and the behavior that went with it.

I mean, can you imagine Alizée in her 40s, cruising around Paris in an expensive limousine, casually inviting young men who meet her roving eye into the car for good times? Madonna has been known to do that in New York.

Like I said, she's too young to be having a midlife crisis yet. ;)

[lefty12357]

Yeah, it wouldn't serve Alizée's goals very well to come out with a new album and simply copy another artist's previous look. While this is a great cover photo for a magazine and it pays homage to an artist she has always been a fan of, it is not very original. I would bet she will present us with something more unique to define the "Alizée look" for the new album.

As I said, I'm looking forward to it. I hope it won't be too long before we get the first single. And I have to say it again, she looks absolutely beautiful !

[Ben]

Yeah, it wouldn't serve Alizée's goals very well to come out with a new album and simply copy another artist's previous look. While this is a great cover photo for a magazine and it pays homage to an artist she has always been a fan of, it is not very original.
Yes, to be honest I'm not too enthused by the image for this reason. I mean yeah she looks great, but there's not much reading into it. Like the "boy toy" belt that Deep pointed out doesn't mean much because it's just copying Madonna. I wonder what the inside images will be like. More Madonna copies? Totally original? Homages to different artists? The later would be interesting, the fact that she's someone else in every photo having it's own meaning.

[Plaz]

according to this its out tomorrow?

Quelques twit’ de monsieur earlybird2001 m’ont mis la puce à l’oreille dans la journée. Ce petit teasing me laissait présagé un truc atypique, mais je dois dire que je ne m’attendais pas à voir Alizée déguisée en Madonna version eighties en couverture du Hors-Serie Musique. Apparemment il sortirait demain en kiosques, on en reparle après.
http://mytrendspotting.tumblr.com/post/316585127/le-mainstream-est-hype-alizee-en-couverture-de

- edit -


english translation thanks to roman
A few [tweets?] from mister earlybird2001 put a bug in my ear [during the course of the day?]. This little teasing foreshadowed something unusual, but I must say that I did not expect to see Alizée disguised as an eighties version of Madonna on the cover of Hors-Serie Musique. Apparently, it should come out tomorrow in the kiosks, we'll talk more about that afterward.

[IncliningPizza]

Dude, this is genius. I agree, that she does pull it off a whole lot better than Madonna does. It's such a tease.

I want to dance around to Vogue, now.

And I want some scans, STAT. XD

[johnkim2222003]

It is provocative.


Nice!

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[Toc De Mac]

It has begun!

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

shes so pretty... im gonna buy that magizine just to say i have one

[Deepwaters]

Like the "boy toy" belt that Deep pointed out doesn't mean much because it's just copying Madonna.

I think I might disagree here. I think she's doing more than copying Madonna. I think this might convey a number of subtle messages.

First, as I said, the title. Madonna wrote a song called "Who's That Girl?" in 1986. It appeared on the soundtrack of the movie with the same name. BUT -- this picture was not for that song. It was for a different Madonna song, "Like A Virgin." Why the mix and match of photo and title? I think Alizée is saying: don't assume you know me, just because you know my past. Who's that girl? Wait and see.

Second, the general tone of the picture, complete with "Boy Toy" belt -- very sexy, even a bit sluttish. If there is one thing about her image in the Psychédélices era that lagged, it was the (apparently deliberate) dampening of sex appeal. But then, the Mylène years saw Alizée perhaps overplaying that aspect (under Mylène's tutelage), complete with hints of pederasty. (In both Moi . . . Lolita and Gourmandises. Less so with the second album, but still pronounced sexuality.)

So with Psych she went full-throttle the other direction. Now this teaser, which seems to suggest that she is well aware of what a hot little number she is, and is not ashamed of it. But this is a Madonna mock-up, not an original Alizée. And Madonna, of course, is famous for scorching sexuality in performance and photos. So here she's saying, "Yes, I can do this, too. But in the end, I will have my own style. So don't necessarily expect this kind of thing, which is not that different from what I did for JEAM in its suggestiveness. This shows you that I won't hide my sexiness or run from it. But who's that girl? Again, don't assume you already know!" This because it IS a Madonna mock-up, not an original Alizée. Not real -- yet suggesting what the reality might be.

I realize that's a lot to take away from one photo, but I do see all of that suggested in it. I imagine the interview will clarify a lot of things.

[LL Cool B]

Nice!

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I know this will rile up the purists, but man alive, one word and one word only decribes this picture. MILF! Jeez Us H, I'm speechless

Now before you start throwing tomato's, I gotta say in my defense, since she started her family and during the whole Psych era, I really never saw any pics or video that screamed MILF, nor did I want to see her that way. I respect that fact that she is a wife and a mom. But this pic....man I'm sorry. (proceeds to duck)

-B

[Deepwaters]

Nobody can be a MILF at age 25 even if she is a mom. She can't be that until she's in her 30s at least. :p

[Ben]

Why the mix and match of photo and title? I think Alizée is saying: don't assume you know me, just because you know my past. Who's that girl? Wait and see.
The magazine editors may be saying that, I doubt Alizée chose the text. If she's saying anything with it, it's only by proxy via the content of the interview. I'm not sure about the sexiness either. The FHM cover was pretty hot too, and was even a lads mag. Seems to be a common first move. As I said, a lot will depend on what's inside, both the text and other pictures. For now all I can say is this whole "copying Madonna" thing of the cover doesn't do much for me.

[Deepwaters]

The magazine editors may be saying that, I doubt Alizée chose the text.


Ye of little faith. I'm SURE she did. If she didn't come up with it herself, she approved it. She posed for that photo shot. Nobody forced her. She agreed to do the interview. She didn't have to. If it wasn't conveying the message she wanted it to, she wouldn't have done it.


I'm not sure about the sexiness either. The FHM cover was pretty hot too, and was even a lads mag. Seems to be a common first move.


That cover was pretty hot, but didn't have the same connotations. Nor would this, if it weren't for that question: "Who's that girl?" I think the interview will try to answer that question. Certainly it will point up the fact that it is a question which needs asking, and that too few ask, because they think they know.


As I said, a lot will depend on what's inside, both the text and other pictures.


I agree. I'm really looking forward to reading this interview.


For now all I can say is this whole "copying Madonna" thing of the cover doesn't do much for me.

Ah -- well, like Alizée herself, I've been a Madonna fan from way back. So probably my take on it is different than yours.

[Sir Wood]

I think everyone is looking into it way too deep. Simply Lili idolizes Madonna. Her new team may just be taking a spin off of this and what better way than to grab folks attention with such a cover? When approached with the idea, she is probably thinking "hey, how fun!" Not to mention the choosing of the title well defines a lot of the fans (or soon to be), and a nod towards her fans in Mexico, via the song's lyrics. Genius if I'm allowed to say so... :cool:

Lyrics:
Who's that girl, who's that girl

When you see her, say a prayer and kiss your heart goodbye
She's trouble, in a word get closer to the fire
Run faster, her laughter burns you up inside
You're spinning round and round
You can't get up, you try but you can't

Chorus:

Quien es esa niña, who's that girl
Señorita mas fina, who's that girl
Quien es esa niña, who's that girl
Señorita mas fina, who's that girl

You try to avoid her, fate is in your hands
She's smiling, an invitation to the dance
Her heart is on the street, tu corazon es suyo
Now you're falling at her feet
You try to get away but you can't

(chorus)

Intermediate:

Light up my life, so blind I can't see
Light up my life, no one can help me now

Run faster, her laughter burns you up inside
He's spinning round and round
You can't get up, you try but you can't

(chorus)
(intermediate)

Who's that girl
Now, who's that girl
Now, who's that girl
Now, who's that girl

[Ben]

Ye of little faith. I'm SURE she did. If she didn't come up with it herself, she approved it. She posed for that photo shot. Nobody forced her. She agreed to do the interview. She didn't have to. If it wasn't conveying the message she wanted it to, she wouldn't have done it.
Approved, yes, but I'm sure the magazine designs it's own covers. Only they know everything inside. And if past features like FHM are anything to go by, the photos weren't done exclusively for Technikart either. I mean, I'm sure the text does reflect content, that's why the magazine chose it. I just don't think it along with the cover is some big message in-and-of-itself. "Alizée: Like a Virgin" wouldn't make much sense as an interview tagline anyway. They probably just thought they were being clever coming up with a more fitting Madonna song.

[IncliningPizza]

Approved, yes, but I'm sure the magazine designs it's own covers. Only they know everything inside. And if past features like FHM are anything to go by, the photos weren't done exclusively for Technikart either. I mean, I'm sure the text does reflect content, that's why the magazine chose it. I just don't think it along with the cover is some big message in-and-of-itself. "Alizée: Like a Virgin" wouldn't make much sense anyway. They probably just thought they were being clever coming up with a more fitting Madonna song.

Wait a minute, you're trying to say that when Madonna made Like a Virgin, that she was a virgin?

Oh, Ben... :P

Well, I don't know. I hope she goes for this sort of image this time around. I've been dying to see her like this for a while, and if she pursues a similar image, I'm down. :D

[Future Raptor Ace]

all i can say is she definitely is not afraid to go back to the old Lolita image

[ALS]

all i can say is she definitely is not afraid to go back to the old Lolita image

That isn't happening unless she is planning on getting rid of Jérémy before the Album is released.

Something is definitely up with the Madonna look. I made a point in the new album discussion a few weeks ago how she emphasized Madonna in this interview and her career. She was telegraphing her plans for the future.
Don't you hate it when I'm right. :p

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[User22]

So here she's saying, "Yes, I can do this, too. But in the end, I will have my own style. So don't necessarily expect this kind of thing, which is not that different from what I did for JEAM in its suggestiveness. This shows you that I won't hide my sexiness or run from it. But who's that girl? Again, don't assume you already know!" This because it IS a Madonna mock-up, not an original Alizée. Not real -- yet suggesting what the reality might be.

I realize that's a lot to take away from one photo, but I do see all of that suggested in it. I imagine the interview will clarify a lot of things.

1)This is the best explanation of this picture that I saw from you guys cuz yes she "idolizes" Madonna and hey alot of stars today have an idol. I mean if I liked singer while I was young and heard them all the time, then wouldnt I like to be somewhat like them???

2)This is just a picture guys. It says a thousand words but we will only know what it intended to mean once the text from the mag comes out.

3):DI like the picture haha

[Topaz]

this

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/alizee-snowhall.jpg

and this

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/54846495.jpg

is usually covered up by this. ;)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/veste.jpg

I would not read too much into it. Nice photo however. :)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/small-1-1-1.gif

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/54846495.jpg

WHA WHA WEE WHAA!! :eek: :cool:

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[Fall]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/54846495.jpg
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Random%20Stuff/4045004.jpg
I guess you could say I like the picture :D
Way to go Lilly!!

[Jeff]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/54846495.jpg
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Random%20Stuff/4045004.jpg
I guess you could say I like the picture :D
Way to go Lilly!!




no way that's her!!!?????? :eek::wub:

[pepelepew]

It is a beautiful picture, though a little perplexing. What needs to be said has already been said. I am with Ben that the copying of Madonna's image is a bit disturbing. I hope she is not selling out for the fame. It is the exact opposite of her real life. Although music is much of the time an image that sells the star. I am totally for her projecting her physical attributes in a classy way. I don't want to see her go the way of all the American pop sluts including Madonna. I also agree with Ben that this picture has little to say about Alizee's professional image or the rest of the interviews. We will soon know the answer to all the questions. One thing about it this picture will draw a crowd. Alizee is definitely one of the most beautiful women in the world if not the most beautiful. I hope it is a winning strategy for her.

[Ben]

I am with Ben that the copying of Madonna's image is a bit disturbing.
Mmm, I don't find it disturbing, just not all that interesting. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice pic, but I would have preferred something original. :)

[edgar93]

She really surprised me with that photo, honestly I never thought she would do this kind of photo after the Psych era, even if it is only a homage to Madonna.
And those are many suppositions made for only 1 photo. I guess that's what they're looking for with the cover and the title "who's that girl". As Ben said, a lot depends on what's inside.

Btw, looks like some of the Mexican Forums will be giving away some copies of January's issue :eek:!

[pepelepew]

Mmm, I don't find it disturbing, just not all that interesting. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice pic, but I would have preferred something original. :)That is the disturbing part. I guess I interjected my concerns for yours Ben. Her obcession with Madonna is tough enough to understand without her copying her look. She also kind of has that Sheena Easton look now that I think about it. Regardless it is a beautiful pic and Alizee gives an otherwise slutty visual just some sexy class. All just off the top of my head. I'm not going to project any further. I'm just glad to see some progress and new stuff from Alizee. Get er done Alizee!:)

[Future Raptor Ace]

She really surprised me with that photo, honestly I never thought she would do this kind of photo after the Psych era, even if it is only a homage to Madonna.
And those are many suppositions made for only 1 photo. I guess that's what they're looking for with the cover and the title "who's that girl". As Ben said, a lot depends on what's inside.

Btw, looks like some of the Mexican Forums will be giving away some copies of January's issue :eek:!
My question is...
Is Madonna the right role model for Alizee to be choosing? I mean her music is revolutionary, she still had it with "4 Minutes" but she doesn't exactly have the best public image if you catch my drift. That has always been my concern with Alizee's admiration.

edit: you beat me to it pepelepew (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/member.php?u=2254)

[pepelepew]

My question is...
Is Madonna the right role model for Alizee to be choosing? I mean her music is revolutionary, she still had it with "4 Minutes" but she doesn't exactly have the best public image if you catch my drift. That has always been my concern with Alizee's admiration.

edit: you beat me to it pepelepew (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/member.php?u=2254)Great minds think alike lol!:)

[Ben]

Hey guys guess what... the mag is out, you can buy it now, go go go:

http://www.journaux.fr/revue.php?id=116500

Serious question: Is there much interest in going in on a large joint order to save on shipping? To the US is 5.50 euros for 1 copy, 7.20 for two, etc.

[pepelepew]

Hey guys guess what... the mag is out, you can buy it now, go go go:

http://www.journaux.fr/revue.php?id=116500

Serious question: Is there much interest in going in on a large joint order to save on shipping? To the US is 5.50 euros for 1 copy, 7.20 for two, etc.Good plan.:)

[Ben]

Well I just ordered six copies. First five people who contact me can get one for $10, which is about $5 cheaper than ordering from Journaux. Of course you'll have to wait until the issues arrive. If there's more demand I may order a second batch. Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention this is for USA members only. International shipping would cost me more, so you're better off just ordering from journaux.fr anyway.

[Roman]

I think I might disagree here. I think she's doing more than copying Madonna. I think this might convey a number of subtle messages.

First, as I said, the title. Madonna wrote a song called "Who's That Girl?" in 1986. It appeared on the soundtrack of the movie with the same name. BUT -- this picture was not for that song. It was for a different Madonna song, "Like A Virgin." Why the mix and match of photo and title? I think Alizée is saying: don't assume you know me, just because you know my past. Who's that girl? Wait and see.

Second, the general tone of the picture, complete with "Boy Toy" belt -- very sexy, even a bit sluttish. If there is one thing about her image in the Psychédélices era that lagged, it was the (apparently deliberate) dampening of sex appeal. But then, the Mylène years saw Alizée perhaps overplaying that aspect (under Mylène's tutelage), complete with hints of pederasty. (In both Moi . . . Lolita and Gourmandises. Less so with the second album, but still pronounced sexuality.)

So with Psych she went full-throttle the other direction. Now this teaser, which seems to suggest that she is well aware of what a hot little number she is, and is not ashamed of it. But this is a Madonna mock-up, not an original Alizée. And Madonna, of course, is famous for scorching sexuality in performance and photos. So here she's saying, "Yes, I can do this, too. But in the end, I will have my own style. So don't necessarily expect this kind of thing, which is not that different from what I did for JEAM in its suggestiveness. This shows you that I won't hide my sexiness or run from it. But who's that girl? Again, don't assume you already know!" This because it IS a Madonna mock-up, not an original Alizée. Not real -- yet suggesting what the reality might be.

I realize that's a lot to take away from one photo, but I do see all of that suggested in it. I imagine the interview will clarify a lot of things.
Well, you know all of this only because you have observed Alizée closely for years. So yes, she said that again her album will be different and so I can buy your interpretation of that as a way to let the public know it. It's pretty simple. It's a provocative cover to get attention and once again Alizée will explain who she is in the interview; so, the text makes sense. I can't guess who had the idea to have her pose that way. Even in all this time, I can't say I know Alizée well enough to judge that.

It's a promo photo. If Alizée wears something that is not especially sexy, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's rebelling even though she was ultra-sexy in the past. It could be that she just felt like wearing that. I could understand that if she is married with child she doesn't have that natural desire to flirt as much anymore. But, it's not like Alizée only ever wore flannel shirts and slacks during her last promotion. She certainly had some fun and sexy outfits when she was on tv and in her video. But yes, she did make a point of saying she was not going to intentionally use her sexuality to drive interest (unfortunately ;) ) and maybe that was a bit of rebellion of the sort that says 'I want to be taken seriously as an artist, not just a sex symbol'. Whatever.

This is a rather overt photo, which coming from Madonna is right on par, though it was from the time when she was just sexy and appealing without having to turn to obvious shock treatment. Maybe it's the kind of thing that Alizée likes about Madonna. This is an image from when Alizée was young (when I was a kid actually). I don't think I ever noticed that "boy toy" before though. :p She said she doesn't like everything about Madonna, but as she said in ALS's video, she admires Madonna's ability to create her own universe and stay relevant. As she said, not everyone can do that. Mylène is another who has done a lot of that. Alizée would be lucky to be able to do that and make it through the work necessary to maintain popularity too. So, Alizée has good reason to find a high degree of energy and ability to manage one's career as impressive as any of us would find it, but she is in the position of having been challenged by the same thing; so, for her it's not even just a simple matter of whether or not she likes Madonna's style, but that she has some understanding of what Madonna's achievements mean. Alizée not quite giving up on that dream of working with Madonna yet? I don't know.

@Pizza, Ben was saying that the tag line wouldn't make sense, but that's the song this photo is associated with.

@ALS, not so sure about your conclusions, but thanks for posting the video. I had forgotten some of that or maybe never saw the translation. (watch, AC Mix probably sent me that edit as soon as he was done :p It was a long time ago!) Alizée's grandma had her mother when she was 17? Yikes. In these times, here, that would be pretty extreme. Though, I had a teacher once who's mother was like 13 when she had him. Oops.

@Ben, I think I know what you are saying. If it had been something akin to that which Alizée chose out of her own sense of wanting to be appealing and she liked it, that would be a different story.

So, I'd point out a difference. Madonna had/has the ability to appeal creatively, but she also eventually chose to do just anything that would get her attention, including plenty of vulgar "shock sensation". I remember when she came out with the big cone bra and we were like, what the heck is that about!? So, one could take that as a rather cheap trick that's more about being gutsy than appealing (though still creative I guess). Alizée on the other hand seems to do more of just whatever she feels like doing, often without any apparent purpose (apparent to me anyway). Which is better? That can only be answered from her point of view.

I still don't think Alizée is going to become Madonna. It's one photo! Though I'd agree with Ben that I'd like to see a persona/image just as appealing, but unique to Alizée and coming from her. For the image or persona to really "work", we have to believe that it defines something about her. That is what we believed about her persona when she was an adolescent and I think she believed it too, within her understanding of who was making what decisions and suggestions and I still believe that she simply was the girl we saw. Alizée and the demands of her image are more complicated now. Ah! Women! :p

[Ben]

First summary:

Je l'ai ! Eh ben il se sera fait désiré hein ! Chez moi, à Avignon, ils l'ont reçu ce matin.
Au niveau des photos, c'est excellent. Au niveau des compliments qu'elle reçoit, du magazine, des CM et de ROB, c'est aussi excellent. Par contre, petite déception, le contenu de l'article. Elle n'y parle pas vraiment de l'album.
Tout ce qu'on apprend c'est :
- sortie en mars
- il s'agit bien d'un album concept sur Edie et la Factory
- deux titres : Coeur fendre et La candida (la chanson en espagnol donc)
- La maison de disque n'a donné aucune directive et n'a rien contrôler, l'album a beaucoup plu quand Alizée leur à présenter
- 4 titres de Chateau-Marmont
Après elle repend des infos sur sa carrière. Rien de plus. Dommage. Mais ça fait quand même plaisir !

Nice photos, good interviews with Chateau-Marmont and Rob. Alizée's interview by contrast is a little thin on information. All we learn about the new album is that it will be released in March, and is indeed about Edie Sedgwick and the Factory. Two songs are "Coeur fendre" (cracked heart) and "La Candida" (the Spanish song). Alizée had complete creative control, the record label was not involved. Four songs by Chateau-Marmont.

And scans!

Voilà, je n'ai pas scanné les pages de Château Marmont et Rob par contre :
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http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3241/14184885.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9154/91689474.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/111/90718508.jpg

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[Scruffydog777]

Well I just woke up minutes ago, went to the forum and saw the picture on the magazine cover. What an eye opener! After believing for so long that she wanted to get away from that sexy image that MF had built for her, this was totally unexpected. I'm not crazy about it. I think she still has a lot of natural beauty which could have been shown in other ways, but I'm not condemming it either. It shows one thing that she now realizes appearence will play a role in her career. That's something she didn't seem to put that much effort into with psych. It shows she's trying hard, she wants to succeed.

This just throws another equation into the complex formula we all know as Alizée.

[Toc De Mac]

Don't forget perhaps the best photo:

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7396/21719496.jpg

Maybe this is the album cover? :D

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7396/21719496.th.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/21719496.jpg/)

[Roman]

SUMMER 2000 SHE TOOK OVER OUR VILLAGES. WINTER 2010, SHE TAKES OVER US.


Ten years ago, Alizée was a whirlwind : more than two million of “Moi… Lolita” snapped up in the megastores of France. The irresistable popstar returns with an album that lanches the trend of the “10” years (2010-2020) : back in the mainstream, creative and charming.

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Thanks Toc de Mac, yes, we can't overlook that page. I don't know about album cover, but with her bare neck like that it reminds me of Edie Sedgwick.
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An answer to the question of what La Candida might mean: " Is it Tony Orlando's or El Lebrijano's song? Anyway.... in the first it means a woman's name. Candida is a Spanish name for women meaning "Candid" or innocent. In the second it works as an adjective for Erendida, another woman's name. Hope it helps. " So, I guess that it's about an innocent type of woman. Where are our Mexicans? :p

[ALS]

Roman
I'm thinking she is letting us know that she is has no plans of putting out two albums with a similar sound. Like Madonna she intends to be innovative and constantly changing her style and sound, evolving and growing as a performer.

Based of the body language she is confident that the path she has chosen is the right one for her career.

[Ben]

Don't forget perhaps the best photo:

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7396/21719496.th.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/21719496.jpg/)
Indeed! Pure class. That got me way more psyched (pardon the pun) than the cover! :)

[User22]

Indeed! Pure class. That got me way more psyched (pardon the pun) than the cover! :)

that emblem would be the sickest cover man....haha nice pun

[Sitting by the bay]

Don't forget perhaps the best photo:

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7396/21719496.jpg

Maybe this is the album cover? :D

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7396/21719496.th.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/21719496.jpg/)

Did anyone else notice the new "A" in the upper right hand corner?

[Deepwaters]

I disagree with Myst-R. This -- interview? Or article written by Alizée? -- anyway, it was quite informative. Perhaps he was looking for explicit detail giveaways on the new album; that was not to be expected IMO. But she's given us more on why she separated from Mylène, where she wants to go, how she envisions herself as an artist, and what the formative influences on her are.

Perhaps the most amusing thing was what she said about Bob Dylan, that he was too French, even Parisian, and she was still a kid from the provinces. Yes, Alizée, you've just lived a perfectly normal life for a girl from Corsica who became a pop sensation at age 16. :D Apparently it was Jean Fauque who introduced her to the life of Edie Sedgwick. (Of course, Fauque could easily have been a Dylan fan himself back in the day.)

Her opinion on Madonna was interesting, too, about how her later work was less authentic and her sexuality became a little overdone or passé ("usé" is the word Alizée used).

As I've believed all along, what Alizée wants is to be herself artistically, and perform according to her own muse. Commercial success, although also desirable, is not the be-all for her.

This is in my opinion the best interview she's ever done. If she didn't tell us in detail what will be in the new album, hey, that's just her. She loves to surprise. Don't expect her to change in that respect. ;)

[edgar93]

La Candida, hmm, all I know is that the girl beside Alizee is called Candida (y'all know her) :p:

http://musikislife.net/08/07/alizeeenlastontasnovanalcielo.jpg
"Por que Te Vas?"
One of the favourite songs of Rob. He wrote La Candida in this regard (?). I love singing in Spanish, and it can please my Mexican fans."

That doesn't really say much.

Btw, press articles are starting to pop up (thanks to RondasX for the find):
http://www.rtlinfo.be/info/people/star/297912/alizee-est-de-retour-elle-se-la-joue-madonna

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/RondasX/rtl1.jpg

"Alizee is back. (ELLE SE LA JOUE MADONNA)?

It was thought that she was done, almost forgotten. The young and sexy singer who used to be Mylene Farmer's protegee, who became a mother almost 5 years ago, tries to come back with a new album. Thus, she's promoting herself with a sexy photoshoot for a magazine (Technikart). Alizee chose a topic: Madonna. As we can see in the picture, Alizée is in the very same background and costume that Madonna used for the cover of one her first hits: "Like a Virgin".

[Toc De Mac]

Did anyone else notice the new "A" in the upper right hand corner?

Indeed! :)

The wave in the eye of Alizée... :eek:

[Deepwaters]

Anyone want to translate this interview? It's pretty straightforward and easy, but I don't think I'll have the time before this weekend.

[User22]

As I've believed all along, what Alizée wants is to be herself artistically, and perform according to her own muse. Commercial success, although also desirable, is not the be-all for her.

This is in my opinion the best interview she's ever done. If she didn't tell us in detail what will be in the new album, hey, that's just her. She loves to surprise. Don't expect her to change in that respect. ;)

Prob the best way to put her new image and interview right there

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

http://i49.tinypic.com/i44hzt.jpg

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/borat%20nice" target="_blank"><img src="http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii168/LCA35/borat-2.png" border="0" alt="borat very nice!!! Pictures, Images and Photos"/></a>

[Alex]

Well just took a look at Alizee Latino and thanks to Clara she has made her best to translate it to Spanish. 87% its clear and undertabale, also she stated that she put question mark symbols (???) in areas where she couldn't well translate.

http://www.alizee-latino.com/foros/index.php?topic=4654.msg125906#msg125906

I must also agree this is one is one of the best interviews people have made to Alizee. The best part for me was that she clearly states the main reasons why she seperated from MF and LB. Also like always her replies towards her interviews are always wise, truthfull, and mature.

Merci a Clara du Alizee Latino

Still awaiting for an English Translation, but if some of you are anxious and can't wait, then I suggest copy parts of the translation and use a web translator to get an idea of the overall interview. :)
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EDIT: Decided to do a favor xD

Summer of 2000, it invaded our "shacks". Winter of 2010, they invaded us. Alizée as a hurricane has been 10 years, was the tornado Alizée: more than two million "Moi ... Lolita" are started in the "hypers" of France. The popstar great returns with an album that launched the trend of the years 10: Return to the mainstream creative and charming Moi ... Lolita has been 10 years, Alizée invaded like a hurricane. Three albums later, she returns with "Une enfant du siècle" a record where she throws the mainstream over the top.

It is "negative" and truth: contrary to all the little cocky of the "hype", Alizée, popular artist, not the account. We spent an afternoon tota photos with it: the popstar is revealed as the most sympathetic of de4 the board. As a former high school mate of our Moulinois: not cute "germanopatrine" or vulgar appearance, symbolizes a mainstream Alizée less and less relieved by the media (Too busy selling the "trashcool"). Forced to move to Mexico with bodyguards, she is captured by the paparazzi in France, has sold millions of records, but it comes available and early for our appointment tomorrow, just after leaving her daughter at the maternal-13 th District neighborhood environment.
On paper, frankly we were not fascinated by whether new project, their fourth album, Une enfant du siècle. A mainstream performer who hired a team of distinguished producers, the issue is simply amazing and he could prove shrewd: the singer is not purchasing the credibility to be expensive, and small field till astute composers postmodern fame on a theme - the ¿???? From the Factory. Listening to the album inspired us. Wow, does not sound crazy bohemian, folk habitat. The two sides are ideally harmonized. Chateau Marmont, and Rob Davis Rubato, high volume composers, classical producers have carved the star with songs both modern and as to the Kim Wilde ¿??????????, or Valerie Dore, say delicious, fresh, melancholic, spontaneous: shiny on the outside, subtle inside. Sola Lilly Allen, with the image broken up, sings such songs today, paradoxically more interesting than ephemeral. Not pretentious, but finally ambitious. Alizée Fame bound, is the mainstream. And especially in pop.
It snows outside is freezing cold at work. Alizée has kept his coat, but is discovered through a blind test easy and straightforward.

MADONNA "LA ISLA BONITA" "Her Like a Virgin box, had it in my room! My father was a fan, I grew up with his songs. I like less from Music: she continues to take the sound to fashion, is super, but it is less authentic, her sexy image is a little worn. The beautiful island I have sung for a Madonna special on France 2, is 6 years old. I have a very active fan-base online, my time has been posted on YouTube, has had two million views. Of the Mexicans who have completely "pop". This is how I have become star in Mexico. My version of La Isla Bonita has been number one on Mexican radio, I sang in a huge stadium there. They have a lot of entertainment culture very spontaneous, I love to go, but I lack security guards. "

LIKE A VIRGIN? Alizée bathed in Madonna from her earliest childhood: his father has always been his fan. The box of "Like a Virgin" has been particularly marked. That falls well: with Alizée, the mainstream is a virgin.

Teki Latex & Lio "Les Matins DE PARIS" "Teki Latex, the band Institubes. For my last album singles, psychedelic, searched remixes. David Rubato has sent a Fifty-Sixty version that I adored. Then I found the head of the seal where David, Jean-René Etienne. He told me he could get me to the train composers. I understand fragments of Chateau Marmont, Rob, I was seduced. I'm very thorough in mail, but these artists I have proposed fragments that have made me crack. Lio, Banana Split I like Les brunes comptent pas pour des prunes, she has a good race. People with a sacred feature. I do not know as I will be at her age. I'm a performer, it will depend on my future encounters. "

Mylene Farmer Libertine "I owe a lot nonetheless. It was a lucky find, Laurent Boutonnat and she, an artist confirmed, people who took me under his wing at age 15, when they have referenced me on M6 in Graine de star. She has protected me a lot, until I left her at age 19. I lived through it sacred things, sold many records. I have much appreciation, artistic and business: I am now producing my records. I'm not tampered with his writings, he was 15, I liked the title, wore clothing that was ... When it was realized double meanings, that does not upset me because it was very well-written texts. Yet finally I had the impression of a product, then proposed personal tricks, less sexy, less we understand each other: we separate on good terms. "

Vanessa Paradis "Joe Le Taxi". When we like the pop and variety, are dreaming of a beautiful journey like his. She has started even younger than me. Moi ... Lolita Before it exploded, had warned me: Harriet was spitting up because of their success. She had to suffer the brunt: I am lucky that it went super well for me. I have not had a normal adolescence, but I had one. Despite my success, I have lived in Ajaccio. When should come to Paris, my mother accompanied me. Continued correspondence courses. But when I was number one in 22 countries with my first album, I had to quit school, though she was in first. The culture, we can do ourselves, and anyway, even with degrees, we find no work. "

Julien Doré, "Moi ... Lolita". "A musician of the new star has sent me a message in the evening to warn that this would ¿????? During the afternoon. When I looked on TV, I have not seen him laughed a little. Do not know if it's a joke, while I goes. I am not a fan, and many find it a slaughter. We talked a lot, Mylène and Laurent even had to play a lot of money. This simple, has sold two million. Ranking 29th in the French top selling singles. I did not touch the money until age 18. Also I have been ranked ninth in England, and I made the Top of the Pops! In Japan, J'en ai marre which has been classified. To leave a disc there is special need synchros do associate the music to something, after the coup did an ad for Japanese biscuits, with the song, is how she has exploited, listened in the streets of Tokyo " .

MIKA "RELAX (TAKE IT EASY)", "I sang in Enfoirés them with Christophe Mae, Patrick Fiori et Nolwenn Leroy. Enfoirés is very closed, I did since 2001, at age 16. I restarted four times. It is the club's show-bussiness French variety. The great distance to Institubes. I want to make this big difference, though in France, is complicated. It is however good to interest everyone. "

BOB DYLAN, 2LIKE A ROLLING STONE. "" My childhood has been lulled by the Beatles, Aznavour, Joe Dassin, Simon & Garfunkel, but not Dylan. The new folk, Carla Bruni? No, listen, then I bought Charlotte Gainsbourg, but I have fifteen years of dance, I prefer music that moves. Do not see myself in the culture "bobo". She plays a lot of people now, but is very French, and Parisian, my culture is more pop, it's a popular medium, provincial. I lived until I was 18 Corsa. Dylan talks about Edie Sedgwick? Jean Fauque who told me about it. "

Bashung "La nuit je mens". "There is a text of Jean Fauque. I have written The Fifty-Sixty thinking or Maripol Yorkers as Sedgwick, who frequented his sister stylist Jean-Michel Basquiat, Blondie and Madonna at the time. She had met Maripol by Mylène, she had offered me Madonna wore armbands. Then I met Jean Fauque. Even later I learned that they were brother and sister! They have come to dinner one evening at the house, Jean told his stories, I realized that Fifty-Sixty talking about this New Yorker. I loved the theme, the lyrics, we said we do not do this album because about Edie Sedgwick, in this universe "Warholien. It is my objection, bilge, but it is fascinating. Not in the way of life, but for the excitement of this band and New York. "

TAXI GIRL, "Cherchez Le Garçon". "This is part of the sounds that I like. Mirwais has worked with Madonna and Daniel Darc me. I met him in the Plan, Ris-Orangis room, I have proposed to participate in psychedelic, with Fauque, Burgalat ... They have written to me after two titles. Really dark: even the opposite of my universe ... ".

KIM WILDE, "CAMBODIA". "A successful before I was born. I do not think she has recorded a lot? I've had a lot of fear, after the success of Moi ... Lolita, to disappear. I was confident Mylène and Laurent to write other hits, but when I left, it was a shame: like Nena (otherwise I sang 99 Red Balloons in Mexico), the singer look like simple one. Testing after one side of doing too complicated songs, but if artistically ambitious. Psychédélices other hand has been certified gold in France, although the crisis. I am fortunate to have the Mexican market, huge. I have come across in a soap-opera, it has been seen by 75 million people! ".

LORIE "PLAY". "When we make music for children, it is difficult to leave. I waited until 2003 before making my first real concert: Seven Olympia followed. I never knew my audience would be, was also afraid that this was especially children. But it was too long, children, parents, gays, young people my age, 18 years, everything. My audience has grown with me. Although Lorie, she is extremely young, but I saw that she wanted to change, it now makes very sexy photos ... ".

Chateau Marmont, "DIANE" ROB, "KING LOVER". "The show-bussiness in the way of the 90s, I'm happy to go out with them, the harmony is great, genuine sharing human. Chateau Marmont, on Coeur fendre, I have proposed many versions. They had one that sounded like Nintendo, another Moroder, has a long paddle and very recognizable sounds I love. And like Rob, are very strong at the level melody is so important, is what I love, and what about the public. I do not understand because they sell so few records. Probably because they have been locked in a side not "fool", but distinguished. At one time, was "less record sales, but I am respected," we've locked in there, but do not ask more than that. Sell records, they deserve both. I hope my album with people interested in them. Would be proud to serve on me for larger audiences. From my side, if I've made, not to be distinguished, is the quality of sound and melodies. If I become more distinguished, the better, but I do not want to leave my side mainstream! ".

JEANETTE, "PORQUE TE VAS". "One of Rob's favorite songs. I composed The candidate in this light. I love to sing in Spanish, and if that can please my fans Mexicans ....

LILLY ALLEN, "FUCK YOU". "I still hear the album in the car coming here! The sound could be more vain, but the songs are really super. I told myself that today is listening to what I can sing, I see a lot in common with my tastes. And now she is exposed at the top, is a good comparison - though it has one side "trash" that I have, may be because she is English. I've never taken drugs, not drink, do not smoke, and the beginning, we wanted to pass myself off as a sly, but no, I'm modest. I do not know as people "trash". Not in my education. This can be a hindrance to my image on the timing but not the duration, I want to last. "

"UNE ENFANT DU SIÈCLE" OUT IN MARCH (Institubes / JIVE)

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

That was a good read

[rcs]

Did anyone else notice the new "A" in the upper right hand corner?

Now that you mentioned it, kind of plain wouldn't you say?

[edgar93]

Just read the spanish translation, but it is hard to understand with so many mistakes. The interview is pretty interesting, looks like she was not cool with Julien Dore singing Moi...Lolita. She also said she performed at a huge Mexican Stadium ?? I guess she meant the Auditorio Nacional, after all, it is the biggest venue she has performed at.

So, Roman, are you willing to translate this for us :D?

[Ben]

She also said she performed at a huge Mexican Stadium ?? I guess she meant the Auditorio Nacional, after all, it is the biggest venue she has performed at.
Or Arena Monterrey? That was a bigger bigger venue, but less people.

[Alex]

Or Arena Monterrey? That was a bigger bigger venue, but less people.

Yeah but in Mexico El Auditorio Nacional is considered as one of the most important stages in the country. (10,000 seats) 2 shows

[Ben]

Not disputing that (was there ;) ), just saying Monterrey was actually a "stadium". Going by your translation of the Spanish of course. Thanks btw! :)

[rcs]

Where did Lili get all that hair? Normally, it is flat. So sexy to say the least. :wub:

[edgar93]

Or Arena Monterrey? That was a bigger bigger venue, but less people.

ah, right, Arena Monterrey has a capacity of 17,000. However, none of those venues are huge stadiums as she said.

[Alex]

ah, right, Arena Monterrey has a capacity of 17,000. However, none of those venues are huge stadiums as she said.

Its probably a small translation issue, but ww get the point dont we? ;)

[brad]

can't wait to see a proper translation of this. this may be the best interview yet!

[wasabi622]

Did anyone else notice the new "A" in the upper right hand corner?

Wow, you've got quite an eye! I didn't notice it!

Though.. meh, kind of a boring "A" if you ask me, nothing to it really other than the little flag sticking out on top.

But at the same time, I don't think that's the new Alizée "A" is it?

[edgar93]

Wow, you've got quite an eye! I didn't notice it!

Though.. meh, kind of a boring "A" if you ask me, nothing to it really other than the little flag sticking out on top.

But at the same time, I don't think that's the new Alizée "A" is it?

yeah, it is kind of boring and very simple, but it's got some class. And yes, it might be the new logo, I mean why would they put it in the pic that appears to be a promotional poster?

Btw, the font used for Alizée's name and the "A" o this pic: http://bit.ly/5k5ADy is "Didot". Right, Amigo :p?

[wasabi622]

yeah, it is kind of boring and very simple, but it's got some class. And yes, it might be the new logo, I mean why would they put it in the pic that appears to be a promotional poster?



Well, if it is the new logo, then I love it even more if that means that that is her new hair style!!

[Fenris]

Well, if it is the new logo, then I love it even more if that means that that is her new hair style!!

Which one do you mean? The Madonna-Style? That's only for this Photo-Session.
Normally she still should look like this:
http://img683.imageshack.us/i/42218101.jpg/

But i think it is time for a change of style again ;)

[ALS]

Where did Lili get all that hair? Normally, it is flat. So sexy to say the least. :wub:

It's called a can of Mousse and a teasing comb. :D

You would be amazed what a little hair product can do for thin limp hair.

Example Donald Trump. :p

[edgar93]

Interview with the Technikart Magazine Editor:

http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/RondasX/lepost.jpg

"The cover has been very discussed in Twitter in the past 24 hours"

Cool. So they are aware that there's a big fuss in Twitter (among alizee fans) about this. Seems like an interesting interview.

[Criss_pl]

Ahh, I missed this.
Read whole interview in French and well, it's rather a discussion around Alizée, not about her actually, but still very intersting. And I'm pretty sure that English translation will come quickly for our non-French speakers:)

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

Back to the A its simple and hard to catch but if they add color to the next A it might look better

[Fenris]

Thx to BackinBlack from Alizée-Forum.com for the excellent translation!


The summer of 2000, she entered into our homes. In winter 2010, she's entering into us.

Alizée: Like a Hurricane

Ten years ago was the Alizée tornado; more than two million "Moi... Lolita"s flew off the shelves of French supermarkets. The sizzling pop star is coming back with an album that'll set the trend for the 2010s: a creative and charming return to the mainstream.

It's cliché but true: unlike all the little hyped phonies, Alizée, a working-class artist, isn't the least bit snobby. We spent an entire afternoon photo shoot with her. The pop star turned out to be the nicest person in the room. Like an old classmate from our Jean Moulin high school; neither a prissy left-bank hip chick, nor a slutty showoff, Alizée symbolizes a current trend that gets talked about less and less in the media (which is too occupied with selling trash). Forced to tour Mexico with bodyguards, she gets hounded by paparazzi in France, has sold millions of records, but arrives ready to go and early for our meeting the following day, having just dropped off her daughter at a pre-school in the middle-class 13th arrondissement of Paris.

On paper, we weren't exactly fascinated with her new project, her fourth album, Une Enfant du siècle. A mainstream singer hiring a bunch of well-connected producers isn't that suprising anymore, but it could have been a slick move; she's buying credibility for cheap, and the clever little composers are plowing the postmodern terrain on a theme currently in vogue: the icons of Andy Warhol's Factory. Listening to the album brought smiles to our faces. Well, it doesn't have that bohemian or folk Habitat sound. The two parts are nicely harmonized. Chateau Marmont, Rob, and David Rubato, big-time composers and top-flight producers, carved out songs that are both modern and vintage, à la Kim Wilde or Valerie Dore; in other words, delicious, fresh, catchy, melancholic, spontaneous--sparkly on the outside, subtle on the inside. These days only Lily Allen, with her more beat-up look, sings similar-sounding jingles that are, paradoxically, more engaging rather than quickly forgotten. It's mainstream, as necessitated by Alizée's celebrity status. More than anything, though, it's pop.

It's snowing outside and it's freezing inside. Alizée's wrapped in her overcoat, but through this musical blind test, she turns out to be both easygoing and outgoing at the same time.

Madonna, "La Isla Bonita"
"I had the album cover of Like a Virgin in my room! My dad was a fan, and I grew up with her songs. I've liked her less since the Music album; she continues to work with the latest sound styles, which is great, but she's less authentic, and her sexy look is a little worn-out. I sang "La Isla Bonita" on a Madonna TV special on France 2, six years ago. I have a very active fan base on the Internet, and my performance was put on YouTube, and there were two million views, including from people in Mexico who went completely crazy over it. That's how I became a star in Mexico. My version of "La Isla Bonita" became number one on Mexican radio, and I performed in a huge stadium there. They have a more spontaneous entertainment culture, and I love to go there, but I need bodyguards with me."

Teki Latex & Lio, "Les Matins de Paris"
"Teki Latex, from the band Institubes. We were looking for remixers for the singles from my previous album, Psychédélices, and David Rubato sent me a version of "Fifty Sixty" that I just loved. So I met the manager of David's label, Jean-René Etienne. He told me that he could find composers for me for my next album. I listened to some samples from Chateau Marmont and Rob, and I was captivated. I'm not huge on electronica, but these musicians proposed some samples that I just loved. As for Lio, I like "Banana Split" and "Les brunes comptent pas pour des prunes." She's had a good career. Popular yet strong-willed. I don't know what I'll be like at her age. I'm a singer, so it'll depend on who I work with in the future."

Mylène Farmer, "Libertine"
"I owe her a lot, of course. It was a real opportunity to meet the two of them, her and Laurent Boutonnat. She was a well-known, established singer, who took me under my wing when I was 15, when they noticed me on M6, on the TV show Graines de star. She protected me a lot, until I separated from her when I was 19. Thanks to her, I've been able to experience some really incredible things and sell a lot of records. I learned a lot, artistically speaking, as well as in business matters--I'm now a producer on my albums. I didn't feel manipulated by the songs she wrote for me; I was 15, I liked the songs, the clothes I wore were fine... When I realized the double entendres in the songs, it didn't bother me, because the lyrics were very well-written. In the end, though, I did get the impression that I was a product, and so I started suggesting things that were more personal and less sexy, and that's where our differences began. We separated, however, on good terms."

Vanessa Paradis, "Joe Le Taxi"
"When you love pop music, you dream of a career like hers. She began even younger than me. Before "Moi... Lolita" exploded on the scene, I was warned: Vanessa got taken advantage of because of her young success. She had to clean up the mess, but I've been lucky that things have gone well for me. I didn't have a normal adolescence, but at least I had one. Despite my success, I still lived in Ajaccio. When I had to go to Paris, my mother came with me. I took classes by correspondence. But when I reached #1 in 22 countries with my first album, I had to stop my studies, while I was in 11th grade. You can still learn culture on your own, and in any case, even with a diploma, people still aren't finding jobs these days."

Julien Doré, "Moi... Lolita"
"A musician from La Nouvelle Star sent me a message one afternoon to tell me that he was going to do a remake of the song on the prime-time show that evening. When I watched him on TV, I didn't think he was making fun of me at all. I don't know if he was making fun, and I don't really care. I'm not a fan, and a lot of people thought he massacred the song. It got talked about a lot, and Mylène and Laurent must have made a lot more money. I sold two and half million copies of that single, the 29th-best selling French single of all time. I didn't touch any of that money until I turned 18. I even got to #9 in England and I did the Top of the Pops! In Japan, it was "J'en ai marre" that made the top of the charts. To release an album there, you have to do certain things, like associating the music to something else, so I did a TV commercial there for some Japanese cookies along with the song. That's how the song got big there, and people started listening to it in the streets of Tokyo."

Mika, "Relax (Take It Easy)"
"I sang this song at Les Enfoirés, with Christophe Maé, Patrick Fiori and Nolwenn Leroy. Les Enfoirés is very exclusive. I did it in 2001, when I was 16, and have done it four times since then. It's the exclusive club of French showbiz and French variété. A big change from Institubes. I want to make this big change, even though in France it can be complicated. Still, it's good to be interested in a bit of everything."

Bob Dylan, "Like a Rolling Stone"
"When I was little, I was sung to sleep by the Beatles, Aznavour, Joe Dassin, Simon & Garfunkel, but not Dylan. New folk, Carla Bruni? No. I listen to it, I mean, I bought Charlotte Gainsbourg, but I've done 15 years of dance, and I prefer music that really moves. I'm not so much into the bohemian culture. It moves a lot of people, but it's very French, very Parisian, and my culture is more pop, I'm from a more middle-class, provincial background. I lived in Corsica until I was 18. Dylan talks about Edie Sedgwick? Jean Fauque's the one who talked to me about her."

Bashung, "La nuit je mens"
"Here's one written by Jean Fauque. He wrote "Fifty Sixty" for me, inspired by the New Yorkers like Sedgwick, or Maripol, her stylist sister who rubbed shoulders with Jean-Michel Basquiat, Blondie, and also Madonna at the time. I met Maripol through Mylène, and she gave me some bracelets that Madonna used to wear. I then met Jean Fauque. It wasn't until much later that I learned that they were brother and sister! They came to dinner one evening at my place, where Jean told us some of his anecdotes, and I understood that "Fifty Sixty" was about these people from New York City. I liked the theme and the lyrics, so we said, why not make an album around Edie Sedgwick, from the Warholian universe? I'm not at all like them, with the drugs and everything, but it's still fascinating, not for their way of living, but for the excitement of that group of people and of New York City."

Taxi Girl, "Cherchez le garçon"
"This is one of the sounds that I love. Mirwais had worked with Madonna, and Daniel Darc worked with me. I met him at the Plan, the concert hall in Ris-Orangis (a suburb of Paris). I went to his concert because I liked his album Crèvecoeur, and I asked him to participate in the Psychédélices album with Fauque and Burgalat. So he wrote two songs for me, really dark ones, completely different from my own universe..."

Kim Wilde, "Cambodia"
"A big hit from before I was born. I don't think she had many hits? After the success of "Moi... Lolita," I was very afraid of disappearing from the music scene. I put my confidence in Mylène and Laurent, that they would write other hits for me, but when I left them, I was really worried; like Nena (whose song "99 Red Balloons" I sang in Mexico, by the way), being a one-hit wonder. So I'm trying to not do songs that are too complicated, but at the same time being ambitious artistically. Psychédélices was a disque d'or in France, but people had written it off as a failure. I was fortunate to be able to count on the Mexican music market, which was huge. I did a TV scene in a soap opera there, which was seen by 75 million people!

Lorie, "Play"
"when you make music for children, it's hard to disassociate yourself from that. I waited until 2003 to do my first real concerts, seven shows in a row at the Olympia. I didn't really know what my audience would look like, and I was even afraid that it would mainly be kids. But it was a very diverse crowd: kids, parents, gays, young people my age, 18-year-olds, everyone. My fans have grown up with me, whereas with Lorie, it's still pretty much young kids. I did see that she wanted to change, and that she's done some sexy photo shoots.

Chateau Marmont, "Diane"
Rob, "King Lover"
"I'm very glad to have escaped from the whole 90s showbiz scene with them, and the relationship I have with them is just great; it's a very human relationship. On "Coeur fendre," Chateau Marmont proposed several versions to me; some sounded very Nintendo-like, others sounded like Moroder. They have a large palette of music, and a very recognizable sound that I love. Like Rob, they are very good with melody, which is so important--that's what I love, and that's what the public gets hooked on. I don't understand why they don't sell very many records. Surely it's because they were slapped with a trendy label and not a bohemian one. It used to be, "the fewer records I sell, the more respect I'll get", so they got slapped with that label, when all they really wanted was to sell records, which they really deserved. I hope that with my album, people will get more interested in them. I'm proud that they are using me to reach a wider audience. As for me, I worked with them not to be trendier, but for the quality of their sounds and their melodies. If I become more trendy, that's fine, but I don't want to give up my mainstream status!"

Jeanette, "Porque te vas"
"One of Rob's favorite songs. He wrote "La candida" for me with this one in mind. I like to sing in Spanish, so if my Mexican fans like it..."

Lily Allen, "Fuck You"
"I was still listening to the album in the car on the way here! The sound could be a little better, but the songs are really good. Listening to her songs, I said to myself that that's something I could sing now; I see lots of things in common with my own tastes. And she's gotten a lot of exposure now, so it's a good comparison--even if she has a trashy side that I don't have, maybe because she's English. I've never taken drugs, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and at first, they wanted pass me off as a naughty girl, but no, I'm too modest for that. I don't know how these trashy people do it. That wasn't in my upbringing. Maybe it's holding back my image for now, but not for the long-term. I want to be here long-term."

[lefty12357]

This interview demonstrates one of the many things I like about Alizée. It's so nice to not only enjoy an artist's work, but to also genuinely like them as a person too.

[user472884]

As a forever hardcore fan of the "Gourmandises - Alizée"....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

---
I hope that the "Madonnazée" pics aren't her new look, and just a little dress-up-photo fun. I had a problem with the bob-cut....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[Ben]

Thanks for the translation, Fenris and BiB!

This -- interview? Or article written by Alizée? -- anyway, it was quite informative.
I agree. In case it was unclear, the way this "interview" worked - as described in the link Edgar posted (http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html), which also talks about how the cover shoot came about (it was one of several ideas proposed by the magazine) - was that the magazine editor, Benoît Sabatier, picked the songs and Alizée commented as he played them. What's cool is how she managed to say something meaningful about herself with each one. It's an interesting format, and Sabatier made a good selection. I would have loved for it to be longer, but that's just because what's there is so good.

A question I have from it, though: is Jean Fauque involved with the new album? It certainly sounds that way, but he's never been mentioned before.

[lefty12357]

Thanks for the translation, Fenris and BiB!


I agree. In case it was unclear, the way this "interview" worked - as described in the link Edgar posted (http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html), which also talks about how the cover shoot came about (it was one of several ideas proposed by the magazine) - was that the magazine editor, Benoît Sabatier, picked the songs and Alizée commented as he played them. What's cool is how she managed to say something meaningful about herself with each one. It's an interesting format, and Sabatier made a good selection. I would have loved for it to be longer, but that's just because what's there is so good.

A question I have from it, though: is Jean Fauque involved with the new album? It certainly sounds that way, but he's never been mentioned before.

I thought it was cool too. And I too have been wondering about Jean Fauque. It sounds like he might be involved, and I do hope he is. I thought he did a great job on Psych.

All in all, I thought this was a really good interview for her.

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

Twas' very informative I believe this is my favorite interview in text form yet

[Future Raptor Ace]

I like how this shows more of a personal side to her, how she is really like behind the scenes..... so far my impression of her is right! She is a good person!

[wasabi622]

It's cliché but true: unlike all the little hyped phonies, Alizée, a working-class artist, isn't the least bit snobby. We spent an entire afternoon photo shoot with her. The pop star turned out to be the nicest person in the room. Like an old classmate from our Jean Moulin high school; neither a prissy left-bank hip chick, nor a slutty showoff, Alizée symbolizes a current trend that gets talked about less and less in the media (which is too occupied with selling trash). Forced to tour Mexico with bodyguards, she gets hounded by paparazzi in France, has sold millions of records, but arrives ready to go and early for our meeting the following day, having just dropped off her daughter at a pre-school in the middle-class 13th arrondissement of Paris.




Ahh yes... what I love about her!

I always like it when people aren't anything like the image they give off. This contributes majorly to my new found interest in Lee Hyori too.

Both Alizée and Hyori have a sexy image, but in actuality, they're so down to earth!

:wub:

[pepelepew]

Thanks B&B and Fenris for this wonderful translation. I agree that this is the best interview of Alizee that I have ever heard or read. It confirms once again how together and disciplined Alizee really is in remaining a very good, intelligent and introspective person and true to self. She is a tribute to her strong family and their obvious values. They must be very proud of their daughter. She truly has it all. Damn I'm pumped!:wub::wub::wub:

[Ben]

Two quotes which together I found quite interesting...
In the end, though, I did get the impression that I was a product, and so I started suggesting things that were more personal and less sexy, and that's where our differences began. We separated, however, on good terms.

I don't know how these trashy people do it. That wasn't in my upbringing. Maybe it's holding back my image for now, but not for the long-term. I want to be here long-term.
The first, while nothing we hadn't assumed before, is probably the most she's ever said about leaving Mylene. And with the second, you can't say she isn't aware of what she's doing. We'll see how it works out in the long-term, here's hoping for the best.

[Future Raptor Ace]

Two quotes which together I found quite interesting...

The first, while nothing we hadn't assumed before, is probably the most she's ever said about leaving Mylene. And with the second, you can't say she isn't aware of what she's doing. We'll see how it works out in the long-term, here's hoping for the best.
but when she means trashy... shes talking a different trashy. Yea what shes wearing on the cover is a little derogatory.... but its nothing compared to what is done these days!
When Alizee says trashy I am sure she is referring to acts and attire such as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldJB23pxqaE&feature=related
and dont get me started on Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, and even Madonna.
Theres a big difference from a lady dressing a little sexy and one who is dressed as a slut! Alizee has not crossed the line yet.... she is still in the sexy area.

[pepelepew]

Ben are you saying that this current photo shoot contradicts those two statements? If that is what you are implying I respectfully disagree. A photo shoot is one thing and living the trashy lifestyle is another including the drug use and risque behaviors. Alizee did some provocative photo's for FHM with Psyche. I'm also not sure the translation from French is exactly accurate on the second quote at least. Please elaborate if I misread your post Ben.

[Ben]

No, my comment had nothing to do with the photoshoot in this magazine. I'm saying she's aware that downplaying her sexiness since leaving Mylene may be holding back her image for now, but it's what she wants to do. And is hopefully for the best in the long-run.

[pepelepew]

Ben are you saying that this current photo shoot contradicts those two statements? If that is what you are implying I respectfully disagree. A photo shoot is one thing and living the trashy lifestyle is another including the drug use and risque behaviors. Alizee did some provocative photo's for FHM with Psyche. I'm also not sure the translation from French is exactly accurate on the second quote at least. Please elaborate if I misread your post Ben.

FRA you beat me to it this time.

[Future Raptor Ace]

FRA you beat me to it this time.
lol pay back :D jk
"great minds think alike" ;)

[wasabi622]

Um.. I don't think he ment that Alizée is "living the trashy lifestyle"...

If anything, it was just insight as to why Alizée left Mylene, and that unlike that time, she's in better control of things.

But that's what I took your post as, don't let me speak for you Ben.


Edit: Never mind! You cleared things up as I posted. :p

[Ben]

Um.. I don't think he ment that Alizée is "living the trashy lifestyle"...

If anything, it was just insight as to why Alizée left Mylene, and that unlike that time, she's in better control of things.

But that's what I took your post as, don't let me speak for you Ben.
Yes, "aware of what she's doing" in regard to leaving Mylene and changing her image, not posing as Madonna. ;) And yeah she never crossed the trashy line with Mylene either, but as she said some wanted to pass her off as a "naughty girl", so I think the quote shows some insight into her current thinking.

[wasabi622]

Yeah, "aware of what she's doing" in regard to leaving Mylene and changing her image, not posing as Madonna. ;)


Glad I understood ya correctly!

:D

[Future Raptor Ace]

Yeah, "aware of what she's doing" in regard to leaving Mylene and changing her image, not posing as Madonna. ;)
Yea in that case; I really do not want to see her go back to Mylene days. After her being married and having Annily and all, it just wouldnt feel right to watch

[pepelepew]

No, my comment had nothing to do with the photoshoot in this magazine. I'm saying she's aware that downplaying her sexiness since leaving Mylene may be holding back her image for now, but it's what she wants to do. And is hopefully for the best in the long-run.

Yes I think you are right. It is her way of not selling out. I respect her for that. I think in the long run Alizee will be able to have opportunities in other genre's of music because she didn't get pigeon holed as a wild child. Taking her way beyond the current pop scene when she gets to the age of Madonna. Madonna is stuck at 50 trying to be a teenage sexpot and as Alizee so eloquently stated: disingenuous or not believeable or something along those lines. I forgot the exact quote.

[Ben]

Yeah I mean none of this is really new, but just seeing her actually say "maybe it's holding back my image for now" shows a lot of awareness. It acknowledges there's a point to some recent criticism, but that this is the path she has to take.

[Tiwaz]

One must have to be able to be a succesfull pop artist without selling it with a sexy image. It's truly admirable that she's standing up aginst the sexualistation that's characterizing the pop music industry, id est MTV. The JEAM suit and up-skirt dancing have already hurt her image in the sense that "people" don't take her serious as a singer and just see her as some sexy french girl, who probably only lip-syncs.

[Fenris]

I'm very impressed with the article and the photos.
Alizée appears as a mature and thoughtful person, a far cry from the simple sweet teenager the public still associates with her.

The opener about her character (although not really news for us) put a huge smile on my face; such praise from a journalist may impress people who are already sick of the trash on the music channels, and may generate interest in her.
Ofc it's only one article and should not be overestimated, but every little bit helps.

As for the pics, Alizée reminds the public that she is still incredibly sexy if she chooses to be so, but in a classy and stylish way.
I don't think that she will ever cross the line into slutty...there are enough sluts in pop music already, she can distinguish herself from the crowd this way, for all those who are willing to take notice.

[User22]

As for the pics, Alizée reminds the public that she is still incredibly sexy if she chooses to be so, but in a classy and stylish way.
I don't think that she will ever cross the line into slutty...there are enough sluts in pop music already, she can distinguish herself from the crowd this way, for all those who are willing to take notice.

We all wish she could go back to her young innocent days...but she can't. So she is showing her sexiness every once in a while, and does know when she is overdoing it. Well put Fenris.

[rcs]

Hmmm...wonder if this new direction will translate into some type of dance performance that brings back some of the appeal of her previous work. But, I'm looking waaay deep off of a couple photos. I guess I'm basically saying, "I wish."

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

I think we all wish to have MCE era back

[wasabi622]

I think we all wish to have MCE era back

Except Jalen! We all know he loves his Gourmandises-Alizée!
:p

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

I think everyone loves little Lolita

[lefty12357]

I think we all wish to have MCE era back

Not me, I don't want the MCE era back.

The MCE era is the most memorable for me because it's the era I discovered first. But I prefer to move forward. I enjoyed much of the Psych era and I'm looking forward to the new album. I can always go back and revisit the MCE era videos, songs and En concert, and I'll always have those happy memories. But I hope that Alizée will make new memories for us in the future that we may cherish just as much.

[brad]

probably the best interview yet. i think this is by far the most open she has been in an interview. refreshing to hear he talk more openly for a change. i hope it continues...

kind of interesting really, maybe it is a culture or translation thing but she appears very direct on her opinions and answers. i like it.

[pepelepew]

probably the best interview yet. i think this is by far the most open she has been in an interview. refreshing to hear he talk more openly for a change. i hope it continues...

kind of interesting really, maybe it is a culture or translation thing but she appears very direct on her opinions and answers. i like it.I believe Alizee is very grounded in who she is, where she is going and who's going with her whether in music or some other endeavor. She is such a refreshing soul.

[Roman]

Thanks for the translation, Fenris and BiB!


I agree. In case it was unclear, the way this "interview" worked - as described in the link Edgar posted (http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html), which also talks about how the cover shoot came about (it was one of several ideas proposed by the magazine) - was that the magazine editor, Benoît Sabatier, picked the songs and Alizée commented as he played them. What's cool is how she managed to say something meaningful about herself with each one. It's an interesting format, and Sabatier made a good selection. I would have loved for it to be longer, but that's just because what's there is so good.

A question I have from it, though: is Jean Fauque involved with the new album? It certainly sounds that way, but he's never been mentioned before.

The interview was for an hour and a half or an hour I think; so, they probably did more stuff, but didn't use all of it. It's like when they do a photo shoot. They might do a couple hundred photos and use three. Speaking of her image. She drives me a little nuts out of my mind with her sexiness and that cover is still right on. And we have her teen years on video at least. I notice that her upbringing doesn't have any problem with covering her body in indelible ink. :p :confused: :(

Uh, yeah. Anyway, Jean Fauque is not involved. I'm pretty sure she said she was talking to someone else when they decided to do the concept album.

Yeah I mean none of this is really new, but just seeing her actually say "maybe it's holding back my image for now" shows a lot of awareness. It acknowledges there's a point to some recent criticism, but that this is the path she has to take.Actually, in early 2008 as I recall she said she was not going to play the sexy card at any cost. She knew then that it is what people wanted and it would cost her career to set it aside. I do like the way she phrased it in this recent interview though. But yes, if what she was talking about was something other than most of what she has done and it meant that she would still do stuff like this Madonna cover (which cover she is willing to at least do) then I don't see what the problem is. She's super sexy here! :wub: I think the confusion is perhaps because of what she sees others in the industry do and because she was working with Mylène who apparently refused to budge on the issue, Mylène who did things like a strip video and obviously Alizée did not want to be pressured into escalating toward that. (And I have a feeling that is the direction things were going. Mylène knew what worked for her and was sure it could work for Alizée too. Maybe Mylène was right, but it just wasn't worth it. And of course, Alizée's baby, while she says was desired, was not planned and that surely put the kibosh on the trend.) I happen to think that Alizée's image is not the worst of her setbacks though. It's just that clearly sex sells and that makes it easier to get attention. But, Alizée still gets more attention than she makes use of.

One must have to be able to be a succesfull pop artist without selling it with a sexy image. It's truly admirable that she's standing up aginst the sexualistation that's characterizing the pop music industry, id est MTV. The JEAM suit and up-skirt dancing have already hurt her image in the sense that "people" don't take her serious as a singer and just see her as some sexy french girl, who probably only lip-syncs.
Well, since you bring it up, I disagree. This is the kind of excuse that is not helping her if she thinks it. It's true to some degree, but however much I may have loved Alizée at any point in time, after I came to realize that so many of her performances are in fact lip-synced and listened to the rest, I have understood that while she may have a lovable voice and certainly has done some great performances, that quality is not especially consistent. That's why I have said she needs to be a more regular performer in order to maintain and develop her talent, or perhaps add some elements of dance to beef up her repertoire. As for actual singing skill/talent, there are much stronger performers. As she said about Les Enfoirés, those are the elite. She started her career amongst the elite and has gotten stuck there in a weak position, a small gold fish in a big pond. I think she does have talent, but it's wasted by disuse and she needs to find a place to express it more often. I wish I could see some indication of an understanding of this or an explanation of how I'm wrong. Well, we'll see what this next album brings.

Oh, and in fact, I think some people actually dislike her because they were fans, fell in love with her, got disappointed and got pissed off.

Thanks B&B and Fenris for this wonderful translation. I agree that this is the best interview of Alizee that I have ever heard or read. It confirms once again how together and disciplined Alizee really is in remaining a very good, intelligent and introspective person and true to self. She is a tribute to her strong family and their obvious values. They must be very proud of their daughter. She truly has it all. Damn I'm pumped!:wub::wub::wub:
Well, in any case, whatever has happened I think Alizée has made choices that make her family veeeery proud of her.

[User22]

Not me, I don't want the MCE era back.

The MCE era is the most memorable for me because it's the era I discovered first. But I prefer to move forward. I enjoyed much of the Psych era and I'm looking forward to the new album. I can always go back and revisit the MCE era videos, songs and En concert, and I'll always have those happy memories. But I hope that Alizée will make new memories for us in the future that we may cherish just as much.

I'll strongly agree with this statement:)

O and sorry Roman I don't want to talk about your post cause it's too long an I will probably contradict myself and get lost in it hahaha....

[Tiwaz]

Well, since you bring it up, I disagree. This is the kind of excuse that is not helping her if she thinks it. It's true to some degree, but however much I may have loved Alizée at any point in time, after I came to realize that so many of her performances are in fact lip-synced and listened to the rest, I have understood that while she may have a lovable voice and certainly has done some great performances, that quality is not especially consistent. That's why I have said she needs to be a more regular performer in order to maintain and develop her talent, or perhaps add some elements of dance to beef up her repertoire. As for actual singing skill/talent, there are much stronger performers. As she said about Les Enfoirés, those are the elite. She started her career amongst the elite and has gotten stuck there in a weak position, a small gold fish in a big pond. I think she does have talent, but it's wasted by disuse and she needs to find a place to express it more often. I wish I could see some indication of an understanding of this or an explanation of how I'm wrong. Well, we'll see what this next album brings.


Yes, I agree with you on every point. However I meant in the way she's speaking about her long-term plan. The sexy-card is an effectiv but cheap trick. What she have gained from her quick success she now have to "pay" for in credibility in her ambition to be successfull on her own conditions. In order to to convince people she's no longer the Farmer product she will indeed have to work for it, good live performances, quality music, promotion et cetera.
When it comes to her voice I think she have been using it the wrong way to begin with. Her voice works best at the lower register she used before IMO.

I wouldn't mind some straight answers from her either, but will we ever? To bad the interview wasn't very deep even if it gave a few answers.
Anyway, things seems to be looking brighter everytime something new is unveiled, so I have good hope for her future.


Oh, and in fact, I think some people actually dislike her because they were fans, fell in love with her, got disappointed and got pissed off.

Yea, but instead of getting pissed off I accept her for who she is and appreciate what she gives without demands for anything.

[Plaz]

Oh, and in fact, I think some people actually dislike her because they were fans, fell in love with her, got disappointed and got pissed off.



two names comes to mind when i read this and that is mot and ayan...

[wasabi622]

two names comes to mind when i read this and that is mot and ayan...

Um.. who is Mot and Ayan? Motayan? :blink::confused:

[Plaz]

Um.. who is Mot and Ayan? Motayan? :blink::confused:

old fans from the alizée universe....who fell in love and now cant stand the sight of her... both still good guys.... but they were once madly in love with her...

[Fenris]

old fans from the alizée universe....who fell in love and now cant stand the sight of her... both still good guys.... but they were once madly in love with her...

That's always the danger when you overdo fandom...you end up expecting more of her than she is willing to give. Disappointment and resentment may follow.

Just try to keep it reasonable...but oh my, i guess some people just fall in love and can't help it nor control it...that's the thing about strong emotions.

[Alex]

old fans from the alizée universe....who fell in love and now cant stand the sight of her... both still good guys.... but they were once madly in love with her...

That's always the danger when you overdo fandom...you end up expecting more of her than she is willing to give. Disappointment and resentment may follow.

Just try to keep it reasonable...but oh my, i guess some people just fall in love and can't help it nor control it...that's the thing about strong emotions.

I agree with Fenris one as a fan has to keep it reasonable for it could later lead to dissapointment, and we have seen many fans registering and being members for a while but then leaving dissapointed with the past album or works. Also we have to be very careful and control the emotions we feel towards her beacuase we clearly see the consequences as Plaz mentioned above and we could loose control of such emotions.

I believe this quote fits properly :p the fear in this case could be for some the emotions we show towards her, some really high hopes for the upcoming album, wanting to see an Alizee going back to the MF LB era and so on....


"Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering."-Yoda :p

[pepelepew]

That's always the danger when you overdo fandom...you end up expecting more of her than she is willing to give. Disappointment and resentment may follow.

Just try to keep it reasonable...but oh my, i guess some people just fall in love and can't help it nor control it...that's the thing about strong emotions.I understand the fans that bought concert tickets, spent money on travel plans on cancelled concerts being somewhat pissed. Even in this scenario when you break it down was it intentional or circumstances on
Alizee's part. Expectations even or especially regarding Alizee is a planned disappointment. I know as a fan wanting full success for Alizee it is very difficult to keep everything in perspective and not get disappointed. Thinking you are in love with someone you never met that is married and have a superficial understanding of the person at best is a fantastic self delusion. It is really a case of falling in lust sprinkled with genuine admiration of Alizee the person, personality and obvious charisma. True love is unconditional. The closest we humans will ever experience this is the love of a pet like a dog. They love us no matter what lol.

[wasabi622]

I understand the fans that bought concert tickets, spent money on travel plans on cancelled concerts being somewhat pissed. Even in this scenario when you break it down was it intentional or circumstances on
Alizee's part. Expectations even or especially regarding Alizee is a planned disappointment. I know as a fan wanting full success for Alizee it is very difficult to keep everything in perspective and not get disappointed. Thinking you are in love with someone you never met that is married and have a superficial understanding of the person at best is a fantastic self delusion. It is really a case of falling in lust sprinkled with genuine admiration of Alizee the person, personality and obvious charisma. True love is unconditional. The closest we humans will ever experience this is the love of a pet like a dog. They love us no matter what lol.

...that was some deep stuff there. :p

[Ben]

Uh, yeah. Anyway, Jean Fauque is not involved. I'm pretty sure she said she was talking to someone else when they decided to do the concept album.
Do you mean in this interview? This part?

I met Maripol through Mylène, and she gave me some bracelets that Madonna used to wear. I then met Jean Fauque. It wasn't until much later that I learned that they were brother and sister! They came to dinner one evening at my place, where Jean told us some of his anecdotes, and I understood that "Fifty Sixty" was about these people from New York City. I liked the theme and the lyrics, so we said, why not make an album around Edie Sedgwick, from the Warholian universe?

Sounds like the idea came about during a dinner with Jean and his sister. That's why I wonder if he's involved.

The interview was for an hour and a half or an hour I think; so, they probably did more stuff, but didn't use all of it.
Yeah, Sabatier lists some of the songs cut for space in his interview with http://justalizee.com:

"Variété Française" de Jeremy Chatelain… Et "People Have the Power" de Patti Smith, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" de Nirvana : d'autres tubes… Qu'elle connaissait aussi.

Some other interesting stuff there, check it out: http://alizeegourmandises.free.fr/technikart.htm.

He talks more about the cover shoot. One thing no one's mentioned here was that it was designed fit the theme of the whole issue ("mainstream music"), not just Alizée. Like a Virgin was Sabatier's first choice, but he also liked the idea of doing Michael Jackson's Off the Wall ("l'idée de voir une jeune fille blanche reprendre la pose d'un homme noir me semblait assez provocante et facétieuse").


In other news, the issue is sold out on Journaux. Guess that's good, though hope I got enough for everybody. ;)

[lefty12357]

For those interested, www.Justalizee.com interviewed Benoît Sabatier, editor of the special issue with Alizée of Technikart. They asked him about the interview with Alizée.

[C-4]

Thank you to everyone for the thoughts and translations.
So far, this thread has been a terrific read for me.
Stephen

[User22]

I agree with Fenris one as a fan has to keep it reasonable for it could later lead to dissapointment, and we have seen many fans registering and being members for a while but then leaving dissapointed with the past album or works. Also we have to be very careful and control the emotions we feel towards her beacuase we clearly see the consequences as Plaz mentioned above and we could loose control of such emotions.

I believe this quote fits properly :p the fear in this case could be for some the emotions we show towards her, some really high hopes for the upcoming album, wanting to see an Alizee going back to the MF LB era and so on....

I'm so scared this will happen to me cuz im crazy about her but I can somewhat control these strong emotions. But with this new album I dunno....any tips to stay hooked on her???haha...but seriously

[wasabi622]

I'm so scared this will happen to me cuz im crazy about her but I can somewhat control these strong emotions. But with this new album I dunno....any tips to stay hooked on her???haha...but seriously

Hahaha, don't worry too much about it. I'm still going strong!
It has died down a bit, but nothing dramatic. As for tips... well, just do what you've doing so far.

I'm proud to say that I can go to bed without watching 3 hours worth of Alizée videos.

But I will say this though, there is a limit to the Alizée material out there. Obviously there's a limit to everything, but with Alizée, I find that there's not much material out there.

Just dozens and dozens of basically the same videos, and this forum. Other than that, I haven't been able to find a venue to go Alizée crazy on.
:p

[Merci Alizée]

Justalizee.com published an interview with Benoît Sabatier, editor of this special issue of Music Technikart (January 2010), who met Alizée. It can be found on justalizee.com.

[Roman]

That's always the danger when you overdo fandom...
Well, all you guys are right. In fact as much as I have tried to control it, it has happened to me too. The thing is, if I have a problem with Alizée it should be because I am no longer interested for performance or artistic reasons and then just say thanks for all the memories and move on. Instead I feel the pain every time there is a delay in the album and with every hiccup and dispite my efforts I think even have some resentment that she hardly ever writes to her fans or even updates her web site. The thing is that it's a bit of a paradox, a choice for the fans themselves that Alizée can not know. Just take Mexico. I think if they did not go crazy over her and spend countless hours talking about her and watching the JEAM video and promoting her then she would not be here today. So, we say that fans should control themselves and not take it too seriously, but the only way for Alizée to achieve this popularity is for people to maintain this flame for her in spite of what little they get back and in fact at times nothing for many months or years at a time. So, it is not so simple in fact and people sometimes trip out because she wouldn't take 5 minutes to say something to them. (I suppose you can guess that I was one of those guys who got screwed by the concert cancellation.) And I had to watch as her career seemed to go down the tubes and she apparently did nothing to prevent it. One finds all that love and support just wasted. And sometimes since then I find myself really fed up with her. But perhaps I overreact to some things. Now, it's yet another hurdle that Alizée must overcome.

But yes, it's my choice (if you want to call it that) to stick around because as much as Alizée may drive me crazy and leave me in depression like RMJ, I think I have never reached the peak of happiness and excitement in my adult life that I have as a fan of Alizée. (I've had issues since before I ever discovered her.) Really, it made me feel alive and apparently she really did change my life. Now, I find some of that excitement boiling up again.

Edit:


Interview the interviewer

This is hilarious, not only did he do a great job interviewing Alizée, but now everyone wants to do an interview of the interviewer.
from le post: http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/01/06/1873111_alizee-en-une-de-technikart-elle-a-accepte-immediatement.html

Alizée as Madonna on the cover of Technikart: why her?

It's a cover that has causes a lot of gossip in the last 24 hours on Twitter: the singer Alizée choose the journal Technikart to make her media return for the occasion of the release of her new album, "Une Enfant du Siècle".

If the very presence of the discrete singer immortalized as Madonna creates an event, the choice of Alizée to represent a special issue of Technikart - the height of hype in print - has what it takes to surprise.

On Le Post, Benoît Sabatier, editor in chief of this issue, recounts his meeting with Alizée and the backstage of a frank interview.

We really didn't expect to see Alizée on the cover of a Techikart music special, how did you come to make this choice?

"It's true that at Technikart we have an image of being pioneers, and in music we often give the privilege to new-comers like Koudlam or VV Brown... But, what interests us in the first place is decrypting pop-culture, it's impact on our lives, on society.

Ten years ago, we had miss Britney Spears on the cover when I met her in Miami. Our cover has also welcomed big artists like Christophe, Justin Timberlake and Madonna, with long in-depth interviews!

Today, the choice of Alizée is not particularly incongruent, all the more so because 1) she produced her album with artists whom I have always particularly liked, Chateau Marmont and Rob, and 2) she corresponds ideally to the general theme that I chose for this music special edition: the mainstream." (note: the mainstream traditionally denotes the current dominant musical genres: rock, hip-hop and variety (variétés--it's a French thing).)

Alizée is an artist rarely in the media: did she accept easily?

"All throughout 2009, I regularly wrote about the connection between music of the "general public", mainstream, and artists top in their segment, confidential [underground?], noting that the border had become more and more porous throughout the 2000s.

Every year, in January, I run a music special edition. For this January 2010 issue, I decided to play this angle in 116 pages: there is an exciting development to analyze and I have a real devotion to popular music.

We needed an idea to cover. I immediately thought of Alizée, as I had known that she was in the process of working with the connected label Institubes on a new album.

I contacted the record company in November, not knowing if 1) they would accept 2) if the timing would correspond. The responses were positive to these two questions: straightaway my request was accepted with enthusiasm!"

How did your meeting go? The selection of disks?
"I first met Alizée at the shoot for the cover. I wanted her, in order to push the mainstream angle, to pose in a reproduction of an album label that marked the history of pop.

We sent some proposals, the choice stopped at "Like a Virgin" from Madonna. She lent herself to the shoot with pleasure, the atmosphere was very nice, and we agreed to do the interview the next morning, so that it would be a blind test, again to stay in the theme, with mainstream hits.

Blind, so she did not know the list, that I selected in a very professional manner, based on her life, based on what I wanted to know about her: a blind test is an excellent indirect method to gently bring up delicate questions and dig into the life of an artist."

Was there a response from Alizée that particularly surprised you?
"She lent herself to the game joyfully and had an answer for everything, speaking each time with enthusiasm and frankness with regard to the connection between the hit I played and her life: the anxiety of remaining a one hit wonder, the separation with Mylène Farmer, bad sales, the reprise of Julien Doré, being number 1 at 15 years of age, a star in Mexico, her connection with the elite, her coquettish image, her collaborations with Daniel Darc and the lyricist of Bashung... [note: to remind you, Jean Fauque also wrote for Bashung who is really big in France (see wikipedia)]

An hour and a half to listen to music and discuss in relaxation, joy and good humor."

Which other artists may one find in this special edition of Technikart?
"The special edition starts with 15 confidential [again, underground/unknown?] artists that we are defending (Hot Chip, Yeasayer, les Shades, These New Puritans…) who respond to a questionaire on the mainstream.

Some surveys follow, interviews, analyses and reports on the evolution of the general public music [note: I don't know how they can separate that from mainstream, to me they are synonymous], that goes from an article on Elton John's cocain years to a report with Camélia Jordana in studio in the process of recording her album while considering: the mainstream, the charts were yesterday, today are the niches (people, bobo, trash, cool, ado[lescents]...)...

The issue finished with this question posed to our guests: "Which hit marked a powerful moment in your life", responding to that question were: Frédéric Taddéi, Gaspar Noé, Jean-Charles de Castelbajac, Mathieu Kassovitz, Jonathan Frazen, Thierry Ardisson, Bertrand Burgalat, Moustic, etc…"

[Chuck]

Roman, buddy! You love her and we love you! (This should be the new Barney song) Thanks for the translation from Le Post! Did someone translate the interview from justalizee.com yet? That one's pretty cool too. If not, maybe I'll get to it...

To All: my take on falling "out of love" with Alizee --
Well, I'm not IN love with her, but if I ever met the lady, I'm certain I'd be head-over-teakettles in INFATUATION with her! No doubt in my mind! Still, to really love somebody, you should at least KNOW them. Me, I love her voice. I love her music. I got thousands of LP's and CD's here, within arm's reach to choose from, yet they all smell like rancid peanut butter and sound like Lawrence Welk now that there is Alizee in the house.

Actually, my whole family likes her music a lot, now, too. (A couple months ago, they were sick of her and had to ask me to cool it.) And they don't even know what she's singing! Now I'm working on friends, several of my neighbors, and coworkers, to boot. She has POWER. Magic power.

I think the Technikart thing proves that our girl is FAR from washed-up, and at least ten times smarter and savvier than most people ever gave here credit for. I think she's very smart also in having put her child first, before career. As opposed to, say, Britney, who doesn't even know where her kids are most of the time. Or what about Courtney Love, who just lost custody of now-17-year-old Francis Bean-- that's something that should've happened 16 or 17 years ago! Okay, I'm being old-fashioned here...


I guess what I'm saying is I DON'T love Alizee. But I respect and admire the hell outta her. And I don't see why that should ever change. I don't expect it will.

[Roman]

Roman, buddy! You love her and we love you! (This should be the ...Well, it's not just about being in love with her or not, it's also about having that bliss that one feels when discovering her and just wanting that to continue.

There's also the wish to see her life as idyllic and live vicariously through her. I mean I remember thinking at one point, well, if one can have a life like Alizée's, then maybe mankind is good enough the way it is after all.

You see, one can idolize Alizée on many levels and find, as you say, that everything else is somehow more dull now that we've found her. That's what happens when one falls in love (or limerence anyway). You weren't around when I was talking about having ALS (Alizée Limerence Syndrome) and one could say we were the Alizée Limerence Society around here. :D I'm sure if she could have some idea of all of this, it would seem absurd to her, both hilarious and scary at the same time.
Well, we'll see what I have to say once I hear the album. :blink:

Edit:

Do you mean in this interview? This part?

You were right about the Fauque thing. But, since no mention of him has been made... I wonder if Alizée just took the idea and ran with it. Maybe she never even asked him to participate thinking she needed new people since the last album didn't work. :confused:

[Fall]

He talks more about the cover shoot. One thing no one's mentioned here was that it was designed fit the theme of the whole issue ("mainstream music"), not just Alizée. Like a Virgin was Sabatier's first choice, but he also liked the idea of doing Michael Jackson's Off the Wall ("l'idée de voir une jeune fille blanche reprendre la pose d'un homme noir me semblait assez provocante et facétieuse").
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Whoa!!
Anybody know anything else about this?
I think this is what they meant, and it would have been awesome seeing her do this :D
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/MJ%20Album/offthewallera12-1.jpg

Oh and btw, can anybody translate this for me please? :o
("l'idée de voir une jeune fille blanche reprendre la pose d'un homme noir me semblait assez provocante et facétieuse")

[Ben]

Oh and btw, can anybody translate this for me please? :o
("l'idée de voir une jeune fille blanche reprendre la pose d'un homme noir me semblait assez provocante et facétieuse")
"The idea of seeing a young white girl take the pose of a black man seemed quite provocative and playful."

I agree, though it might have also been a bit "too soon".


You were right about the Fauque thing. But, since no mention of him has been made... I wonder if Alizée just took the idea and ran with it. Maybe she never even asked him to participate thinking she needed new people since the last album didn't work. :confused:
Yeah, that's what I wonder. Well, guess we'll learn when the album comes out!

[Fall]

"The idea of seeing a young white girl take the pose of a black man seemed quite provocative and playful."

I agree, though it might have also been a bit "too soon".
Thanks a billion Ben, and yeah from some super crazy MJ fan point of view, seeing her (whether they know her or not) do that right now might not be very pleasing. I joined the MJFC forums recently, and... we've got a few Lilly-crazies here, they have hundreds of MJ-crazies over there lol :blink: I know I would have loved it however :D. I like it the way it is though, it suits her more. Thanks again Ben.

[User22]

Man some pretty deep stuff in here lately. But yah it was Chuck that said he didn't love her as he found out, but that he respects the hell out of her. And I think in order to have that life-long flame for her I need to venture away from the "OH MY GOODNESS!!!SHE IS SO HOT AND HAS THE BEST VOICE EVER BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!". Although it will hurt not thinking about her every second of the day, I think I need to somewhat go back to my life of listening to the top hits in America. But hey her new album is coming out and I'm sure we will all be SUPER SATISFIED with it. MARCH 2010!!!!

Chuck-I guess what I'm saying is I DON'T love Alizee. But I respect and admire the hell outta her. And I don't see why that should ever change. I don't expect it will.

[Fenris]

Got the mag today. For anyone who is interested, here are the parts with Chateau Marmont and Rob (don't know if this is already posted):
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1733/roba.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/i/roba.jpg/)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5914/chateaumarmont.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/chateaumarmont.jpg/)
Image quality is not the best, but schould be readable.
Just don't expect me to translate it all...:D

[Ben]

Thanks Fenris, been waiting for that.

Oh and hey guys, I've got a long waiting list for this magazine since I planned to order more, but Journaux sold out... So if anyone who contacted me doesn't really want one, please let me know (of course if you already paid, it's on its way!). ;)

[Fenris]

Here's my crappy translation of the justalizée interview with the Technikart guy...guess it still beats online translators. ;)

Interview de Benoît Sabatier, rédacteur en chef de ce numéro Hors-Série Musique de TECHNIKART (Janvier 2010), qui a rencontré Alizée.Interview with Benoît Sabatier, chief-editor ot this issue Hors-Série Musique de TECHNIKART (Janvier 2010), who met with Alizée.

Justalizee.com : C'est vous qui avez eu l'idée de cette séance photos reprenant celle de la pochette de l'album Like a virgin de Madonna. Votre idée était de reprendre une photo marquante d'un album d'artiste dit "mainstream", populaire. Le choix s'est arrêté sur Madonna, mais pouvons-nous avoir un aperçu des autres propositions que vous avez faites à Alizée ?Justalizee.com : It was you who had the idea ot these séance photos taken from the cover of Madonnas album Like a virgin.
Your idea was to take a prominent photo from an album of a popular mainstream artist. The choice fell on Madonna, but can you give us some insight about the other propositions you made to Alizée?

Benoît Sabatier : Je voulais que l'angle du Hors-Série TECHNIKART Musique, spécial "mainstream", saute aux yeux quand on verrait la couverture. Je suis passionné par la culture populaire, j'ai été adolescent dans les années 80, quand la musique, visuellement, c'était encore les pochettes de disques, à l'époque les 33 tours. J'ai donc étudié quelles pochettes de disques avaient été à la fois les plus marquantes, les plus populaires et qui en plus, un, artistiquement me convenaient et, deux, pourraient plaire à Alizée, au niveau de la pose, du shooting. La pochette de l'album Like a Virgin de Madonna était mon premier choix. J'ai aussi sélectionné Off the Wall de Michael Jackson, un disque que j'adore, et l'idée de voir une jeune fille blanche reprendre la pose d'un homme noir me semblait assez provocante et facétieuse. En troisième, quatrième, cinquième et sixième choix, il y avait : refaire les pochettes de ces classiques pop : Supertramp Breakfast in America, Janet Jackson Janet, Roxy Music For Your Pleasure et Kylie Minogue Fever. J'ai été particulièrement heureux par les choix retenus : c'étaient les pochette de Like a Virgin et Off the Wall qu'Alizée préférait, mes deux premiers choix.Benoît Sabatier : I wanted this mag to jump into your eyes when you saw the cover. I'm passionate about pop-culture, i grew up in the eighties, when the visuals of music where still the album covers, in the epoch of 33rpm. Therefore i studied which album covers where at the same time the most prominent, the most popular, and furthermore, one, fitted with me artistically, and two, could please Alizée concerning the posing of the shooting. The cover of Madonnas album Like a Virgin was my premier choice. I also selected Michael Jacksons Off the Wall, a record i adore, and the idea to see a young white woman take the pose of a black man seemed sufficiently provocant and facetious to me. For 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th choice there was: Remakes of these pop-classics: Supertramp Breakfast in America, Janet Jackson Janet, Roxy Music For Your Pleasure and Kylie Minogue Fever.
I was particulary happy about the choices taken: It were the covers of Like a Virgin and Off the Wall which Alizée prefered, my two premier choices.

Justalizee.com : Alizée a-t-elle facilement reconnu les titres du Blind Test, format que vous avez choisi pour l'interview ?
Justalizee.com : Did Alizée easily recognize the titles you choose as blind test for the interview?
Benoît Sabatier : Oui, tous ! Même ceux qui ne figurent pas dans l'interview, manque de place oblige. Honnêtement, c'est normal qu'elle ait tout trouvé non ? Une artiste qui ne reconnaitrait pas "Joe le taxi", "La nuit je mens", Mika, Lily Allen ? C'était un blind test de tubes ! C'est vrai qu'il y avait des pièges : allait-elle reconnaître les morceaux peu connus de ses compositeurs, Chateau Marmont et Rob ? Ouf, oui, immédiatement. Je n'ai pas à préciser qu'elle n'a pas eu de peine à trouver Mylène Farmer, la cover bidon de "Moi… Lolita" par Julien Doré et "La Isla Bonita" de Madonna, qu'elle-même a reprise… Les chansons qui ne figurent pas dans l'interview et que je lui ai passé ? "Variété Française" de Jeremy Chatelain… Et "People Have the Power" de Patti Smith, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" de Nirvana : d'autres tubes… Qu'elle connaissait aussi.Benoît Sabatier : Yes, all of them! Even those who didn't make it into the interview, due to space restrictions. Honestly, it's normal that she has found them all, isn't it? An Artist who does not recognize "Joe le taxi", "La nuit je mens", Mika, Lily Allen ?
It was a blind test of hits! It's true there were traps: Would she recognize the little known pieces of her composers, Chateau Marmont et Rob ? Whew, yes immediatly. I don't have to stress that she had no difficulty finding Mylène Farmer, the bluff cover of "Moi… Lolita" by Julien Doré and "La Isla Bonita" by Madonna, which she renewed (?)...The songs who didn't make it into the interview and which i let her pass (hear?): "Variété Française" by Jeremy Chatelain… and "People Have the Power" by Patti Smith, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana : other hits...she knew them also.

Justalizee.com : L'image que vous aviez d'Alizée avant l'écoute de ce nouvel album a-t-elle changé ?Justalizee.com : The picture you had of Alizée before listening to the new album, has it changed?

Benoît Sabatier : Oui, j'ai 40 ans, à l'époque de "Moi… Lolita", en 2000, j'en avais 30, j'écoutais alors Outkast, Mirwais, Daft Punk, Grandaddy, Ellen Allien, Eminem, Photek, Day One, Two Lone Swordmen, Add N to (X), Moodyman, Blonde Redhead, Isolée, Programme, Boards of Canada… Soyons francs : pour moi, "Moi… Lolita", c'était juste une couillonade, un tube formaté par Farmer & Boutonnat pour faire les poches des enfants. Je n'ai donc pas suivi la carrière d'Alizée de près, jusqu'à son précédent album : débarrassée de la tutelle de Mylène, elle avait recruté des artistes qui correspondaient plus à ce que j'aime : Daniel Darc, un chanteur que j'adore depuis que je suis ado ("Paris" de Taxi Girl est ma chanson préférée de tous les temps), participait à Psychédélices ! Sur ce disque, j'ai aimé la chanson "Fifty-Sixty": j'attendais donc son nouvel album avec un certain intérêt. Pour répondre à votre question : oui, l'image que j'avais d'Alizée a radicalement changée après l'écoute d'Une Enfant du Siècle.Benoît Sabatier : Yes, I'm 40 years, in the epoch of "Moi… Lolita", in 2000, i was 30, i listened then to Outkast, Mirwais, Daft Punk, Grandaddy, Ellen Allien, Eminem, Photek, Day One, Two Lone Swordmen, Add N to (X), Moodyman, Blonde Redhead, Isolée, Programme, Boards of Canada… Soyons francs : For me, "Moi… Lolita" was just a couillonade(?), a hit made by Farmer & Boutonnat to loot the pockets of the children. Therefore i didn't follow the career of Alizée closely, until her preceding album : Liberated of Mylènes tutelage, she recruited artists which were more like those i like: Daniel Darc, a singer which i adore since my youth ("Paris" by Taxi Girl is my all time favorite song), participated in Psychédélices ! On that record, i liked the song "Fifty-Sixty": therefore i awaited her new album with a certain interest. To answer your question: Yes, the image i had of Alizée changed radically after listening to Une Enfant du Siècle.


Justalizee.com : Pensez-vous que la nouvelle direction musicale que semble prendre Alizée peut déconcerter ses fans ?Do you think that the new musical direction Alizée seems to be taking may bemuse her fans?

Benoît Sabatier : Je ne pense pas. Quand j'avais 12 ans, j'écoutais "Cambodia" de Kim Wilde : j'aurais aimé que Kim évolue ainsi, grandisse avec son public. Les ados qui écoutaient "Moi… Lolita" ont aujourd'hui 20 ans : ils devraient être ravis qu'elle aussi ait grandi, artistiquement. Elle ne fait pas non plus du Pierre Boulez (un chef d'orchestre) : Une Enfant du Siècke reste un disque pop(ulaire).I don't think so. When i was 12 years old, i listened to "Cambodia" by Kim Wilde : i would have liked Kim to develop, to grow up with her public. The youths who listened to "Moi… Lolita" are today 20 years old: They should be happy that she too has grown up artitistically. She is not becoming a Pierre Boulez (a conductor) : Une Enfant du Siècle remains a pop(ular) record.

Justalizee.com : Certains lecteurs ont relevé le grand nombre de chiffres avancés par Alizée (ventes, classements, nombres de pays...). Ont-ils vraiment été apportés par Alizée ou ajoutés en guise d'illustration ?
Benoît Sabatier : La retranscription est fidèle. C'est juste que j'ai supprimé mes relances, et celles-ci étaient dans l'angle "mainstream", je lui demandais donc moi-même de préciser les chiffres, pour bien voir concrètement sa popularité, au niveau des charts.I don't really get what they are talking about here...something about numbers, statistics and verification of them...i leave that to the experts! :)

Justalizee.com : Avez-vous déjà eu des retombées quant à l'apparation d'Alizée dans TECHNIKART ?Did you already get some follow-up regarding the appearance of Alizée in TECHNIKART ?

Benoît Sabatier : Je suis depuis 48h assailli par les mails ! Aucune lettre d'insultes de lecteurs anti-mainstream… Soit des demandes d'interviews, soit des commentaires variés et enthousiastes…Since 48h i am assaulted by mails ! No anti-mainstream insults (?), either demands for interviews, or varied and enthusiastic comments.

Justalizee.com : Pour terminer, une anecdote ?To get to the end, an anecdote?

Benoît Sabatier : Comme je le dis dans l'introduction de mon article, et je le précise dans votre interview, j'ai été assez épaté par la simplicité, l'authenticité et la franchise d'Alizée, une artiste qui à la base, je le reconnais, me paraissait un peu carton pâte. Bien plus important que cette considération sentimentale et déplacée, je trouve son nouvel album, Une Enfant du Siècle, plutôt audacieux et assez ambitieux !As i said in the introduction of my article, and as i specified in your interview, i have been quite amazed by the simplicity, authenticity and the frankness of Alizée, an artist which basically, i recognize it, appeared to me a bit like papier mâché (means artificial?) More important than this sentimental and inappropriate consideration, i found her new album, Une Enfant du Siècle, rather audacious and quite ambitious.

[User22]

Here's my crappy translation of the justalizée interview with the Technikart guy...guess it still beats online translators. ;)

Interview with Benoît Sabatier, chief-editor ot this issue Hors-Série Musique de TECHNIKART (Janvier 2010), who met with Alizée.

Justalizee.com : It was you who had the idea ot these séance photos taken from the cover of Madonnas album Like a virgin.
Your idea was to take a prominent photo from an album of a popular mainstream artist. The choice fell on Madonna, but can you give us some insight about the other propositions you made to Alizée?

Benoît Sabatier : I wanted this mag to jump into your eyes when you saw the cover. I'm passionate about pop-culture, i grew up in the eighties, when the visuals of music where still the album covers, in the epoch of 33rpm. Therefore i studied which album covers where at the same time the most prominent, the most popular, and furthermore, one, fitted with me artistically, and two, could please Alizée concerning the posing of the shooting. The cover of Madonnas album Like a Virgin was my premier choice. I also selected Michael Jacksons Off the Wall, a record i adore, and the idea to see a young white woman take the pose of a black man seemed sufficiently provocant and facetious to me. For 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th choice there was: Remakes of these pop-classics: Supertramp Breakfast in America, Janet Jackson Janet, Roxy Music For Your Pleasure and Kylie Minogue Fever.
I was particulary happy about the choices taken: It were the covers of Like a Virgin and Off the Wall which Alizée prefered, my two premier choices.


Justalizee.com : Did Alizée easily recognize the titles you choose as blind test for the interview?
Benoît Sabatier : Yes, all of them! Even those who didn't make it into the interview, due to space restrictions. Honestly, it's normal that she has found them all, isn't it? An Artist who does not recognize "Joe le taxi", "La nuit je mens", Mika, Lily Allen ?
It was a blind test of hits! It's true there were traps: Would she recognize the little known pieces of her composers, Chateau Marmont et Rob ? Whew, yes immediatly. I don't have to stress that she had no difficulty finding Mylène Farmer, the bluff cover of "Moi… Lolita" by Julien Doré and "La Isla Bonita" by Madonna, which she renewed (?)...The songs who didn't make it into the interview and which i let her pass (hear?): "Variété Française" by Jeremy Chatelain… and "People Have the Power" by Patti Smith, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana : other hits...she knew them also.

Justalizee.com : The picture you had of Alizée before listening to the new album, has it changed?

Benoît Sabatier : Yes, I'm 40 years, in the epoch of "Moi… Lolita", in 2000, i was 30, i listened then to Outkast, Mirwais, Daft Punk, Grandaddy, Ellen Allien, Eminem, Photek, Day One, Two Lone Swordmen, Add N to (X), Moodyman, Blonde Redhead, Isolée, Programme, Boards of Canada… Soyons francs : For me, "Moi… Lolita" was just a couillonade(?), a hit made by Farmer & Boutonnat to loot the pockets of the children. Therefore i didn't follow the career of Alizée closely, until her preceding album : Liberated of Mylènes tutelage, she recruited artists which were more like those i like: Daniel Darc, a singer which i adore since my youth ("Paris" by Taxi Girl is my all time favorite song), participated in Psychédélices ! On that record, i liked the song "Fifty-Sixty": therefore i awaited her new album with a certain interest. To answer your question: Yes, the image i had of Alizée changed radically after listening to Une Enfant du Siècle.


Do you think that the new musical direction Alizée seems to be taking may bemuse her fans?

I don't think so. When i was 12 years old, i listened to "Cambodia" by Kim Wilde : i would have liked Kim to develop, to grow up with her public. The youths who listened to "Moi… Lolita" are today 20 years old: They should be happy that she too has grown up artitistically. She is not becoming a Pierre Boulez (a conductor) : Une Enfant du Siècle remains a pop(ular) record.

I don't really get what they are talking about here...something about numbers, statistics and verification of them...i leave that to the experts! :)

Did you already get some follow-up regarding the appearance of Alizée in TECHNIKART ?

Since 48h i am assaulted by mails ! No anti-mainstream insults (?), either demands for interviews, or varied and enthusiastic comments.

To get to the end, an anecdote?

As i said in the introduction of my article, and as i specified in your interview, i have been quite amazed by the simplicity, authenticity and the frankness of Alizée, an artist which basically, i recognize it, appeared to me a bit like papier mâché (means artificial?) More important than this sentimental and inappropriate consideration, i found her new album, Une Enfant du Siècle, rather audacious and quite ambitious.

I'm pretty glad she chose the Madonna Like A Virgin cuz she pulled it of well and some of the other choices were a bit weerd. And she was probably glad to do Madonna since she is her favorite star...

[Roman]

This is Roman’s translation of the interview with “Rob” from the Technikart special magazine.

Wrapping it up with…
Rob, a composer of Alizée’s

In one hour, the 116 pages of this special edition goes to the printer. And Rob just send us a mail. Let’s include it in a retro-prospective report.

“I only compose hits. But, of another time it would seem.” (Brendan Benson, page 92)

Rob was 19 when he recorded, in 2001, “Don’t Kill”. “Satyred Love” was released the next year. Two admirable and ambitious albums inextricably entangled with the influences of major 70s composers: McCartney (II), Korgis, Alan Parsons, Kevin Ayers, Roger Hodgson... Result: flop. Mail from Rob: “I create, however, to speak to the world, to the greatest number. But, I choose the most sinuous roads, my personal works take an irregular form. I don’t expect to sell millions of them. I look to go to the heart of my sensibilities, not those of the radios.”

“To fully dominate, one must always be fighting.” (Phœnix, page 72)

After these two commercial failures, Rob became the keyboardist for Phoenix on tour. He sent us his message while he was in the United States with them. “Show business is a filthy beast. I’m am in the middle of learning the workings of the American system at the moment and the music doesn’t make much difference there, it’s much more about politics. The general level of music is not very satisfactory, it is very rare to be moved by our contemporaries, but the indie advances into the mainstream are a good thing. I am delighted to see my friends from Phoenix pierce the membrane.”

“Once an artist becomes publicized, he passes into the mainstream category.” (Valli, page 91)

In 2007, Rob found himself working on a Melissa Mars album with… Pascal Obispo. Only the latter is squatting on the tv.

“The quality of a work is judged according to it’s influence in the long run.” (Julian Casablancas, page 97)

Rob is recording until next June “The Dodecalogue”, which will be a collection of the maxis (dedicated to the twelve apostles) which he releases each month. Sébastien Tellier is participating in “Volume IV”.

“Reaching the mainstream produces collateral damage.” (Peter Hook, page 30)

There was a time when the image of mainstream was to scary, certain artists preferred to go “misunderstood”, with an altitude of sales that approached that of the sea. As a composer connected with the in crowd, Rob, have you had the impression of putting your credibility in peril by working with Alizée? “On the contrary, I don’t see any risk as long as the music is good…” [Alizée seemed to have a similar fear, a fear that she could not handle trying to enter the American market. I’m not sure that she no longer has that fear. Valli said, once one is publicized they are mainstream. I think I get that idea. It’s like, the display of desire to be considered mainstream may be enough to give a person the chance to participate in popular events and get their music played. If it gets played in the usual places, unless it’s really out there, I guess it can be called mainstream in a very shallow analysis. I think the public will be the ones to decide. Well, either that or the question is more about what they as producers have to deal with than what we as audience experience. Obviously, as is being pointed out, the benefit to having a mainstream status is that people don’t just dismiss the music and artist off-hand as not being mainstream and thus not being worth the time for someone who is dedicated to working in the mainstream. We were quite ready to say that Alizée had stepped out of the mainstream, maybe because of these hors-courant people she is working with and because she seemed to be changing or darkening her image contrary to greater popularity, (though opinions may differ). Funny, so it’s more the other way around now?]

“Still, it was something” (“Just an update” from Jackie Quartz, page 65)

“I come from the generation “moved” by the work of Mylène Farmer, but I prefer by far the videos to the songs… I continue to be fascinated by the video for “Pourvu qu’elles soient douces” ("Provided they are sweet”, Rob writes us. “Moi… Lolita”, it’s a theme that works so well, it’s proven, I thought “what nerve!”

“I thought the era to be over, I decided that I would write for others.” (Alain Chamfort, page 10)

“I love putting myself in the service of a singer, with Alizée I have the impression of not having to adapt my manner of working. She simply says “no” when she doesn’t like something. She is very sure of her tastes. I tried to make the most beautiful songs in the world, just thinking about her.” [He he, now he sounds like an Alizée fan. Mouahahaha!]

“I try to make ambitious songs. I want to last.” (Alizée, page 35)

Rob composed three bits on « Une enfant du siècle » (A child of the century). “She is at an enormous turning point in her career, in the middle of reconstruction. I think her image is going to change tremendously. So, the pressure is more artistic than commercial. The idea is that of a symbolic rebirth of an artist. Basically, to work with a mainstream singer is neither a dream nor a nightmare, it’s just good to work with people who are “habités” (talented or know what they are doing?). Alizée is that.

collected by Benoît Sabatier

[lefty12357]

Thanks for the translation, Roman. It is much appreciated. :)

[User22]

“I try to make ambitious songs. I want to last.” (Alizée, page 35)

Now thats what I like to hear Lilly haha. Thanks Roman!!!

[Rev]

Thanks very much Roman. :) :) :)

[warren_brown2013]

Hey! Anybody is had alizee in the front cover of the new magzine?

[Chuck]

Huhhh??? :confused::confused::confused:

[User22]

Hey! Anybody is had alizee in the front cover of the new magzine?

No Hablo ingles....Did you mean to say is she on the front cover?then yes

[wasabi622]

Hey! Anybody is had alizee in the front cover of the new magzine?

Yup! Have you ever been so far such as the big one that once could have been purple gaping in a mesmerized fashion due?

:p

[Jenny_HRO87]

yesterday at "50 mn inside". merci Spirit!

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and they are all really surprised about her new look!

"Alizée?!? C'est pas vrai!"

download:

http://www.multiupload.com/E2X2ICZQNC

http://rapidshare.com/files/336852154/50mn_Inside-01.16.2010-Revue_de_presse-Alizee-french-HDTV-720p-x264-Spirit.mkv.html

[rcs]

Superb, thank you so much Jenny!

[lefty12357]

Thank you Jenny! I truly hope there is some new and real enthusiasm in France for Alizée's new album.

[Fenris]

Well, at least they recocnized her name immediatly, if not her picture! :p

[wasabi622]

YAY!! Some attention being drawn to her. Good stuff. :D

[User22]

yesterday at "50 mn inside". merci Spirit!

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and they are all really surprised about her new look!



THANKS A MUCHO!!!

hahaha the girl in the glasses looks pretty funny. i didnt know people still wear those

[user472884]

Hey! Anybody is had alizee in the front cover of the new magzine?

....... yea?

[paintballpdh19]

any one know a link to where i can get a copy of this to Philadelphia, PA.... thanks

[User22]

any one know a link to where i can get a copy of this to Philadelphia, PA.... thanks

just buy one online(probably all gone or discontinued). Or look for a download link to get the pictures. or just get the picture of her page earlier in this thread...

[Ben]

More press about the press:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6872/20660262284006779186164.jpg

CLOSER n°239 from nidalizee.com facebook.

[Fall]

More press about the press:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6872/20660262284006779186164.jpg

CLOSER n°239 from nidalizee.com facebook.
Hey Ben, so I got the paypal working, I don't know if you checked my messages from a few weeks back, but its most definitely set. I'm gonna put some extra money in, too for the site, but do you have any left?

[User22]

any one know a link to where i can get a copy of this to Philadelphia, PA.... thanks


http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=953&stc=1&d=1263957048

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=954&stc=1&d=1263957238

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=955&stc=1&d=1263957285

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=956&stc=1&d=1263957301

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=957&stc=1&d=1263957329

[Sir Wood]

More press about the press:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6872/20660262284006779186164.jpg

CLOSER n°239 from nidalizee.com facebook.

Just my quick translation for those interested:

Alizée does a very hot come-back.

Exit the prude Lolita. At 25-years old, the singer Alizée became a sexy woman, and she proves it. For the release of the album "A child of the century", the young Corsican chose to pose in the same manner like Madonna on the cover of "Like A Virgin", for the Technikart hors-série magazine.

[pepelepew]

Thanks for the translation Sir Wood.

[Ben]

Hey Ben, so I got the paypal working, I don't know if you checked my messages from a few weeks back, but its most definitely set. I'm gonna put some extra money in, too for the site, but do you have any left?
Thanks Fall, yeah. FYI everyone I talked to about getting the magazine: Journaux delayed my shipments, thinking I made a mistake placing two identical orders. But I cleared that up with them last week, and the magazines should be here any day now. We'll be in touch.

[wasabi622]

Just my quick translation for those interested:

Alizée does a very hot come-back.

Exit the prude Lolita. At 25-years old, the singer Alizée became a sexy woman, and she proves it. For the release of the album "A child of the century", the young Corsican chose to pose in the same manner like Madonna on the cover of "Like A Virgin", for the Technikart hors-série magazine.

Thanks for the translation! Getting more and more exciting. :D

[User22]

Thanks for the translation! Getting more and more exciting. :D

And I just figured out Barnes & Nobles or Borders will carry UEDS!!!!YAY!!!!

[Fall]

Thanks Fall, yeah. FYI everyone I talked to about getting the magazine: Journaux delayed my shipments, thinking I made a mistake placing two identical orders. But I cleared that up with them last week, and the magazines should be here any day now. We'll be in touch.
Awesome. Sent the money a few minutes go. Happy to help with the site, it's about time I did.

[User22]

Awesome. Sent the money a few minutes go. Happy to help with the site, it's about time I did.

I'll definetely help once I get a Debt when I get my license haha....May!!!

[Ruroshen]

So I follow a LiveJournal community called Fandom!Secrets (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/), which is similar in concept to PostSecret (http://postsecret.blogspot.com/)--in that users select postcard-sized images to which they add secrets, and then anonymously submit them to be posted--except that it's for nerds. :p Most of the secrets posted are about geeky pursuits like TV shows, movies, anime, comics, books, video games, or some combination of the above. Occasionally, once in a while, we'll see a music-related one.

Imagine my surprise when I checked today's post (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/425791.html) and saw this about halfway down the page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2w3ndc7.jpg

Cool, huh?

And no, before you ask, I wasn't the one who submitted. I'm really curious to know who did, but I won't ask you to out yourself if it was somebody from AAm. (If you wanted to send me a PM about it, though, that'd be hot.)

The comments on the post are mixed--which is to be expected, since F!S is kind of a snarky community--but at least a couple peeps have expressed curiosity about who Alizée is.

Nice work, you glorious anonymous person, you! :D

[User22]

So I follow a LiveJournal community called Fandom!Secrets (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/), which is similar in concept to PostSecret (http://postsecret.blogspot.com/)--in that users select postcard-sized images to which they add secrets, and then anonymously submit them to be posted--except that it's for nerds. :p Most of the secrets posted are about geeky pursuits like TV shows, movies, anime, comics, books, video games, or some combination of the above. Occasionally, once in a while, we'll see a music-related one.

Imagine my surprise when I checked today's post (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/425791.html) and saw this about halfway down the page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2w3ndc7.jpg

Cool, huh?

And no, before you ask, I wasn't the one who submitted. I'm really curious to know who did, but I won't ask you to out yourself if it was somebody from AAm. (If you wanted to send me a PM about it, though, that'd be hot.)

The comments on the post are mixed--which is to be expected, since F!S is kind of a snarky community--but at least a couple peeps have expressed curiosity about who Alizée is.

Nice work, you glorious anonymous person, you! :D

yep those anonymous Lilly-fans hopping around haha. But yah I just saw the original Madonna version for the first time and Lilly looks way better and hotter than her....nice find

[wasabi622]

YAY! I got my magazine today!! :D:wub::D

I shall use my pigdin French abilities to understand as much as I can! :p

[User22]

YAY! I got my magazine today!! :D:wub::D

I shall use my pigdin French abilities to understand as much as I can! :p

hahaha....all I know is the words in her songs hahaa

[Deepwaters]

Well, I wasn't familiar with Lilly Allen, and so to explore what our own Lili meant by saying that Lilly was "trashy," I did a YouTube search. Here are some vids of Ms. Allen and it shows what Her Grace meant. Although her music is quite good just the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYaosyR4bE&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkoRBRjoZxs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u6HhbqAgwc&feature=channel

A lot of her other songs are similar: low-life concepts, dysfunctional relationships, foul language, but beautifully done.

I don't know if it's because she's English, though. ;)

[Rev]

Well, I wasn't familiar with Lilly Allen, and so to explore what our own Lili meant by saying that Lilly was "trashy," I did a YouTube search. Here are some vids of Ms. Allen and it shows what Her Grace meant. Although her music is quite good just the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYaosyR4bE&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkoRBRjoZxs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u6HhbqAgwc&feature=channel

A lot of her other songs are similar: low-life concepts, dysfunctional relationships, foul language, but beautifully done.

I don't know if it's because she's English, though. ;)


I think that comment may have slipped out inadvertantly. It seems to be unlike her usual cautious way. Was a litle French-English attitude showing?

By the way, Lilly ALlen is really cute in the first song. :)

[Deepwaters]

I think that comment may have slipped out inadvertantly. It seems to be unlike her usual cautious way. Was a litle French-English attitude showing?


She does slip now and then. And it's true, and amusing from this side of the pond, that the French and English really don't like each other. It looks a lot like sibling rivalry to me. :D


By the way, Lilly ALlen is really cute in the first song. :)

Oh, she's gorgeous, no doubt about it, for an English babe. ;)

But there's something about French women. French girls are hot. The whole world knows it. That's how Eisenhower motivated the troops on D-Day.

"This is it, men. Now remember, the Germans are between you and millions of French girls." The true secret of our victory.

That's also why the Germans invaded France to begin with. That's the German idea of a romantic courtship: it starts with a blitzkrieg.

And that will do for my own foray into national stereotyping. Carry on. :p

[lefty12357]

My take on the "trash" comment is this, which I had posted in another thread:


Oh, and a little side note on the term "Trash" that was recently used in the Technikart interview. I don't think this word is meant to be taken literally in its normal sense. Think of it as a word that is the name of a style or genre, like "Punk", "Metal" or "Pop". The word "Trash" has been around a long time in one form or another, often used to describe primitive, lo-fi, indie music. I think many British artists are currently known for being in this category, hence Alizée's reference to it in the interview. It's not meant to necessarily be derogatory or insulting.

[Deepwaters]

Watch the video I linked of "It's Not Fair." In that song, Allen is singing in quite graphic terms of a thoroughly inadequate, inconsiderate lover. "Lying in the wet spot in the middle of the bed," "spending hours giving head," references to the classic wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, I can see where Alizée would say that she could never do anything like this because she's too modest. These are not subjects for polite conversation in mixed company, however much one may sympathize with the poor dear.

I think that's what she meant by "trashy."

[FanDeAliFee]

Watch the video I linked of "It's Not Fair." In that song, Allen is singing in quite graphic terms of a thoroughly inadequate, inconsiderate lover. "Lying in the wet spot in the middle of the bed," "spending hours giving head," references to the classic wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, I can see where Alizée would say that she could never do anything like this because she's too modest.

I think that's what she meant by "trashy."

I agree with you, Deep. Alizée favors a more modest, circumspect, implied sexuality, of which I think the <i>Mademoiselle Juliette</i> music video is our best example. For example, the women in the bathtub are surely nude, but not even their breasts are visible to the camera. Someone's hair is indeed being tenderly handled, but not a more intimate body part.

These are not subjects for polite conversation in mixed company, however much one may sympathize with the poor dear.


I think that is true for pre-Baby Boom generations and some of the Baby Boom itself. But among Americans, I have found that the later someone was born, and the more formal education they have, the more likely they are to treat such a taboo with contempt or even amusement. The subject of the sexual selfishness of men has long been a staple of chat shows, and not just those led by professional sexologists like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer">Dr. Ruth Westheimer</a>.

Now, I'm not unaware that when you make things like the overt discussion of sexuality or display of a body-part taboo, people socialized in that way find breach of the taboo arousing - because they have been <i>conditioned</i> to associate abrogation of the taboo ONLY with socially-permitted intimate sexual experiences they have had, or to which they have aspired, if juvenile.

Let me give you an example. The dominant public culture where I live is militantly Victorian in many ways - although I will allow that a young woman wearing shorts in public won't be imprisoned, much less lynched. (By the way, there are also enormous amounts of unwanted pregnancy and unmarried cohabitation, but those are putatively private, after all. The former surely is unfortunate fallout from the shame, i.e. fear of violent social reprisal, which is a consequence of such repression of communication.)

A few years ago, a public library manager in this area said that she aspired for her children to have access to a good sex education. About a year or two later, I found some time to requite her aspiration, and prepared an annotated bibliography heavy in vetted online resources, which I e-mailed to her and copied to several others, men and women, who serve on the community advisory board for the library. I quoted an expert who opined that what we need to do is educate parents about sex, so they in turn can thoroughly and frankly educate their children without creating the unfortunate and self-defeating censorious anxiety about some potential for coercive pedophilia, were such work outsourced to public educators, like school-teachers.

In the months subsequent to this, I was met with numerous, unprecedented, unambiguous, provocative private gestures by females, not a few attractive to the typical man, of very many ages - I won't name the range - very physical as well as verbal. I was torn between believing that either I had inadvertently engendered sexual arousal because of the taboo surrounding the discussion of sex, or that I was being lionized as the liberator from local female sexual repression, which had been part of norms that had only respected the needs of men. Perhaps some of both?

Anyway, if you don't believe that contemporary English women can refrain from trashiness, even when leading a serious discussion of sexuality in mixed company, I offer the following as evidence:

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[Deepwaters]

I get the sense that Corsica is more old-fashioned in that respect than Paris. I'm judging this not only by Alizée but also by my Paris correspondent who was also born in Ajaccio.

It's not just the sexual explicitness, though. Mylène Farmer is sexually explicit but not "trashy" in that all of her songs in which she does sing of sexual themes are either romantic or sexually exciting (and often rather kinky). Madonna likewise. Also the late great Freddy Mercury of Queen. With Lilly Allen, I find myself going, "Wow, that's kind of gross." :blink: And I get the feeling that's the intent. She kind of reminds me of Julie Brown.

[Jess]

Although I can't speak for Alizée and what she really meant by that, Lilly Allen is pretty trashy in the sense that she has no class or very little of it. Just like Amy Winehouse she has been known to get drunk and rowdy, and have bar brawls. She is very loud, has a very dirty mouth and has very little regards for what others think. She has been questioned on interviews about her behavior and she has no problem accepting this, in fact she thinks it's funny and I would even say she is kind of proud of this. This is common behavior for a lot of English people from what I've bean told, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't include all the English.

[wasabi622]

Mylene Farmer.. she knew what she was doing with Alizée.

She made her perfect. Sexy, seductive, but at the same time, unbelievable adorable and I-bet-you-want-to-cuddle-cute. But the cream on top was Alizée's seemingly very genuine personality! :wub::D:wub:

The sexy image Farmer created, not so common.

[FanDeAliFee]

...Lilly Allen is pretty trashy in the sense that she has no class or very little of it. Just like Amy Winehouse she has been known to get drunk and rowdy, and have bar brawls. She is very loud, has a very dirty mouth and has very little regards for what others think. She has been questioned on interviews about her behavior and she has no problem accepting this, in fact she thinks it's funny and I would even say she is kind of proud of this. This is common behavior for a lot of English people from what I've bean told, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't include all the English.

If the <i>Wikipedia</i> article about Allen is on the mark, socially, she does indeed seem to be a wantonly disrespectful, even callously hurtful, person. I have to shake my head in dismay at how the manifestly contrived social outrageousness of 1980's-era US "professional wrestling" seems now to embrace ever-wider circles of Western society.

[Rev]

She does slip now and then. And it's true, and amusing from this side of the pond, that the French and English really don't like each other. It looks a lot like sibling rivalry to me. :D

I may have to side with the French on this one. My Uncle dealt with the English on an international (law) committee, and he said they looked down on everyone else. He couldn't stand them because of their generally condescending attitude.



Although I can't speak for Alizée and what she really meant by that, Lilly Allen is pretty trashy in the sense that she has no class or very little of it. Just like Amy Winehouse she has been known to get drunk and rowdy, and have bar brawls. She is very loud, has a very dirty mouth and has very little regards for what others think. She has been questioned on interviews about her behavior and she has no problem accepting this, in fact she thinks it's funny and I would even say she is kind of proud of this. This is common behavior for a lot of English people from what I've bean told, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't include all the English.

Is she an East Ender?

[Nafas]

From the interview:

"She lent herself to the game joyfully and had an answer for everything, speaking each time with enthusiasm and frankness with regard to the connection between the hit I played and her life: the anxiety of remaining a one hit wonder, the separation with Mylène Farmer, bad sales, the reprise of Julien Doré, being number 1 at 15 years of age, a star in Mexico, her connection with the elite, her coquettish image, her collaborations with Daniel Darc and the lyricist of Bashung... [note: to remind you, Jean Fauque also wrote for Bashung who is really big in France (see wikipedia)]"

who are these "elite", and what is their business with Alizée?

I ask this because i think the MJ video has a deeper meaning (wonderland and mind-manipulation)
I think there might be a connection.. someone help me out? :o

[Chuck]

I ask this because i think the MJ video has a deeper meaning (wonderland and mind-manipulation)
I think there might be a connection.. someone help me out? :o

"Wonderland And Mind Manipulation"? (Nafas, if you're going to put your font in color, don't choose white next time - too hard to see!)

All I know about this is that I've written things in these pages in the past, suggesting that there are veiled references to Mylène* in several of the songs in Psych. I'm not sure what else you may be referring to when you imply that "mind manipulation" may have deeper meanings. But in any case, yeah, the song seems to be against mind manipulation. (Unlike all those other "pro-mind-manipulation" anthems out there - loq)

"Wonderland?" Beats me, and I was just playing my old Jefferson Airplane L.P. a half hour ago. Surrealistic Pillow - the one with the song "White Rabbit" on it. Y'know? "Go ask Alice when she's ten feet tall.. (Hey, maybe THAT'S the connection!!??) White Rabbits - eh, sometimes they're Red Herrings, and sometimes they really are just regular rabbits that are white.

As far as connections with the elite, well, she's been on the inside track of the French entertainment biz since starting out with MF/LB. She didn't have to start out in clubs or touring or toiling for years, as most usually do. So yeah, she's just a little (tiny) bit spoiled. There. I said it.

Why do you need to know? You're not writing a doctoral thesis about "Mademoiselle Juliette", are you? :eek:
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*For what it's worth, nobody (including me) thought my "wild theories" about Psych actually proved anything. It was just surmising. ;)

[CFHollister]

I'm coming to this thread very late, something I am regretting very much. I haven't had time to read any of the posts since the first.... Simply commenting on the original post/articles:

All I have to say is: WOW! :eek: Je t'aime, Alizée :wub:

This article, what the author has to say about Alizée and what Alizée herself has to say, very much reinforces all the deeper qualities which make me an enduring fan of Alizée rather than just having a passing interest: How her kindness, demeanor, and thoughtfulness are made apparent to author and readily related to the audience; and her integrity both personally and as a performer/artist.

Roman, thank you for the referral.

:blink: WOW :blink:

[FanDeAliFee]

Watch the video I linked of "It's Not Fair." In that song, Allen is singing in quite graphic terms of a thoroughly inadequate, inconsiderate lover. "Lying in the wet spot in the middle of the bed," "spending hours giving head," references to the classic wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, I can see where Alizée would say that she could never do anything like this because she's too modest.

I think that's what she meant by "trashy."

I agree with you, Deep. Alizée favors a more modest, circumspect, implied sexuality, of which I think the <i>Mademoiselle Juliette</i> music video is our best example. For example, the women in the bathtub are surely nude, but not even their breasts are visible to the camera. Someone's hair is indeed being tenderly handled, but not a more intimate body part.

These are not subjects for polite conversation in mixed company, however much one may sympathize with the poor dear.



I think that is true for pre-Baby Boom generations and some of the Baby Boom itself. But among Americans, I have found that the later someone was born, and the more formal education they have, the more likely they are to treat such a taboo with contempt or even amusement. The subject of the sexual selfishness of men has long been a staple of chat shows, and not just those led by professional sexologists like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer">Dr. Ruth Westheimer</a>


The material above is from a posting I titled: <i>A time, place, and context to discuss everything requiring discussion?</i>

This morning at about 7:10am Eastern US time, I learned more about the Corsican girl when <i>Limelight by Alizée, la radio officielle d'Alizée</i> played for me Lily Allen's <i>It's Not Fair</i>, albeit without the slyly disorienting C&W announcer setup one sees in the music video version.

The betting window is now taking odds on whether Alizée would countenance Photoshopping her head into the revealing photo of the rudely gesturing Lily Allen <a href="http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/lily-allen-pussy-flash-landing-strip-no-panties-upskirt-01.jpg">here</a>. Note to Talmudic scholars: What is the aesthetic and moral difference between doing that and posing in the same manner for a photo yourself? Do different considerations about social signaling apply when one is playing a staged role or participating in spontaneous, personal social life? In which of these spheres, or both, do "publicity" media fall? And one final brain teaser: If Alizée were to use her personal digital artistry to synthesize "provocative" photos of Mylène Farmer (<i>sic.</i>) with the latter's acquiescence, using <a href="http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Technology/VirtualActors.htm">state-of-the-art-technology</a>, who would be posing that way? Alizée? Mylène? Both?

For additional background material, see: <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=159035&postcount=18"><i>Alizée, sex and AAm culture</i></a>

[Roman]

Got the mag today. For anyone who is interested, here are the parts with Chateau Marmont and Rob (don't know if this is already posted):
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Image quality is not the best, but schould be readable.
Just don't expect me to translate it all...:D
And better late than never, here is my translation of the Château Marmont interview:

The quartet Château Marmont composed four (captivating) morcels for the ex-Lolita.

They still dreamed of her
Albeit they have still not released an album, Château Marmont find themselves parachuted into the principal composer of "Une Enfant du Siècle". How have they gone from underground senation to the accomplice of a popstar? Story of a dream become Alizée.

We came to know Alizée through Jean-René Etienne, who prepared the artistic direction of her new album. He suggested that we make a piece for her, we wrote something, she liked some of it, then we went to the studio, one thing lead to another and we found ourselves with four pieces on the disk.

Alizée's demand: good pieces. She was very open throughout the production of the disk. Jive/Sony had it once it was done, they liked it, this was a value beyond estimation. There were no compromises. We proceeded with carte blanche. (They had no interference by Jive/Epic/Sony. They could do whatever they wanted. I would add, perhaps because Alizée decided it would be that way. She produced the thing and licenced it to Sony.) We made some pieces that were more pop, more singing, some feminine. We especially thought of productions like the album of Adjani writen by Gainsbourg, of Glass Candy, of an ambiance femino-retro-futuristico-French. But our mode of creation has not budged a bit because of it. If you calculate your music based on how it will sell, it's dead, opportunism has rarely gone beyond the short term. Obviously we want it to do well, to be heard. We did things as we felt them, while realising for whom we were doing it. We did a thing which we are proud of, now it's kind of, the die is cast. No one has the secret to success. Except perhaps Phil Spector or Pharrel Williams. Financially, it's also not negligeable, it allows us a greater autonomy for what comes next.

Your favorite hits? Missy Elliott, Madonna "Music", Kylie Minogue "Can't Get Out Of My Head", all that club stuff like Imagination or Chic, the first U2 stuff, Elton John, 80s stuff like Nick Kershaw or even Jacky Quartz. 80% of the stuff they play on Nostalgie (a radio station). We make no bones about it. The first hits from Alizée produced with Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat? Who are they?

We make music very influenced by synth music, and unfortunately we are no longer in the era when one could hear "Oxygene" or "Radioactivity" on the radio, when Kate Bush was at the top of the charts. If recent years and their dumbing down had not existed, we might be at a stage where our music would appeal to a maximum of people. Who would not want their music heard by everyone? To become mainstream, if that means having greater means, turning towards better conditions while keeping total control, that's great. If it means having your face everywhere (in the press, for example) and 125 people to talk to for a yes or a no, that's less great. As long as you can continue exercise and create your art as you heard it from the beginning, it's cool. It's no doubt necessary to know how to make some compromises at certain times, that's all. In no case, sell off your music (I think that means make something just because you think it will sell rather than because it's your own expression of art). But, for the moment we aren't doing anything for it (?), there's nothing to do but listen to the ouverture of our new disk.

France being a country with a shitty mentality, where everyone judges in permanance, takes their opinion from the majority, or alternately knocks down to distance onself and stroke one's petty ego, it's difficult to put out something different destined for the general public, people aren't necessary open minded, they can quickly criticize things with which they no longer have a connection. (??) Anyway, we made a thing very accessible, and we mustn't exaggerate either. The risk for us is that one will propose a reiteration of the experience. We would be delighted to. We're not exactly trying to come off as erudite, it's the perception of people who tend toward that. The border between mainstream and underground is sometimes so slight musically.

Quite sincerely, it is a dream for us to work with a mainstream singer. But, we were thinking more about anglo-saxon artists like Britney or Fergie. We never would have thought about French artists. Yet, Alizée took the risk of innovation, novelty, and when you really think about it, it's hard to see how anyone else could have done that.

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