[2010-02-16] Les collines (New Song in French & English)

[Ben]

For those who pre-ordered the album, Les collines (Never Leave You), reported to be the first single from "Une Enfant du Siècle", is now avalible to download in full from Alizée's Opendisc site. Another nice perk, though supposedly it will go public on her Youtube tomorrow.

Edit:

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[Tupuz]

Fantastic!! Just listening the second time... :D:D:D

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=873

[brad]

lots of english so far in the new album

[Ben]

One little thing I noticed is that you can faintly hear the previous song fade out at the very beginning of this, suggesting that she really is going with the whole concept album, songs flowing into one another thing. ;)

Edit:

lots of english so far in the new album
Yet I like the French parts best. :)

[Amigo!]

lots of english so far in the new album

Lol brad, you crack me up. You always seem to pop up at the right time. :p

[User22]

hopefully, and not hopefully, someone somewhere on the internet will post the mp3 or put it on youtube. But does anyone know when it will go on her youtube channel tomorrow?like 12:01 AM in France???

Edit:

http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2264611

^^^ looking at some of the posts, the British are willing to buy her new album. They stopped listening to her since the MF years, but i bet prob Les Collines might hit the charts over there.

[ALS]

FYI, Les Collines - Track 5

Like most of Alizée's music it takes a few plays for it to grow on you.

[User22]

FYI, Les Collines - Track 5

Like most of Alizée's music it takes a few plays for it to grow on you.
wait so may i ask if it was a faster upbeat song like JPVA???

[ALS]

About the same or slightly slower. The song writer definitely needs a larger vocabulary when it comes to the lyrics.

Why my comment about larger vocabulary. Definitely the chorus was put in to kill some time in the song.

3:44 in length.

85 seconds Lyrics

87 seconds for the chorus

First chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Second chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Third chorus

Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you

Time killer and space filler.

52 seconds music

[User22]

About the same or slightly slower. The song writer definitely needs a larger vocabulary when it comes to the lyrics.

Well as long as it's faster than Limelight then I'm good haha, and even though limelight was electro-slow, I LOVED IT!!!
.

[Fyrel]

About the same or slightly slower. The song writer definitely needs a larger vocabulary when it comes to the lyrics.

Agreed; the chorus gets a little stale by the end. Otherwise I really like it though, and as Ben said, the (very sparse) French parts are the best.

[User22]

Agreed; the chorus gets a little stale by the end. Otherwise I really like it though, and as Ben said, the (very sparse) French parts are the best.

so wait it is in english? I'm wondering if it will be in french also, but that 's what i thought it would be in....uhhhh

[Tiwaz]

My dear, she's really answering my prayers. The dark melancholic 80ies sound and her beautiful deep velvet voice. Just listen to that intro with the 80ies drumming, awesome. The chorus, tends to get slightly repetitive, but I never ever want it to stop :wub:

[Ben]

The chorus is in English, and as others have said kind of repetitive. But catchy and with a sexy bit some will like. ;) The verses, a mix of French and English, are the best part. There's a real magic there, and I got chills when she mentioned New York. Very good song overall.

[User22]

My dear, she's really answering my prayers. The dark melancholic 80ies sound and her beautiful deep velvet voice. Just listen to that intro with the 80ies drumming, awesome. The chorus, tends to get slightly repetitive, but I never ever want it to stop :wub:

Although (when I hear the song tomorrow) it will be repetitive, it can still be very very good. I mean come on Moi...Lolita was as repetitive as the US going to China for money. So I think that Les Collines can be quite a hit.

[Fyrel]

so wait it is in english? I'm wondering if it will be in french also, but that 's what i thought it would be in....uhhhh

The chorus is in English, and one other part is in English, which transitions to French. The beginning is in French too....it's about 2/3 English, 1/3 French.

[User22]

The chorus is in English, and one other part is in English, which transitions to French. The beginning is in French too....it's about 2/3 English, 1/3 French.

ok then....but how will it be the single for France if it's not in French? there will be a French version right?

[Alex]

I really like it alot! I think this single will be successful because it has good beat, and its catchy. It reminds me ALOT from Madonna's work. Really love it!:cool:

[Ben]

ok then....but how will it be the single for France if it's not in French? there will be a French version right?
Mixing French and English is really popular these days, and the English is simple enough that I think most will understand it. Besides, they listen to English songs in France.

[User22]

:rolleyes: So yah youtubers already posted it up. I don't want to post the link here since thats how it was withLimelight. Let the buyers soak it in. BUT I LOVE IT SSSSOOOOO MUCHHH!!!!!!

Edit:

Mixing French and English is really popular these days, and the English is simple enough that I think most will understand it. Besides, they listen to English songs in France.

yah it shows on itunes that they listen to like Rihanna,Black Eyed Peas, and all the major american musicians these days//

[Tiwaz]

Although (when I hear the song tomorrow) it will be repetitive, it can still be very very good. I mean come on Moi...Lolita was as repetitive as the US going to China for money. So I think that Les Collines can be quite a hit.

The singing is rather monotonous so there could maybe have been a 'stronger' or more noticeable melody in the chorus to make it apear less monotonous.

[Nafas]

I love Les Collines!!:wub: I'm shure it will be a hit!:)

and btw:

"This week, Alizée offers the subscribers of her Opendisc site
to download her new single "Les Collines".
Some of you may also have a unique chance to be invited to the
Une Enfant du siècle” launch party that will be held in Paris soon."

that would be nice:cool:

[kristofer]

Hyperrepetitive as has been said lol (whoa grammar fail). I like it from the get-go anyway. Thank you, almighty YouTube. ;-)

Wow I am definitely gonna download this off of YouTube. I can't wait for the normal version of the album to be available for preorder! I want itttt. /spoiled.

[Toc De Mac]

WOooooooooooooooooo!

:D:D

[User22]

the singing isn't really monotonous....But man this song would be so good if someone remixed it for a "Une Enfant Du Siecle Remixes" CD. Get some of that Benny Benassi in their yaoh haha.

Edit:


Wow I am definitely gonna download this off of YouTube.

I have always been wondering, how do you download videos off of youtube???

[Jenny_HRO87]

I listen to this song nearly two hours now... I never expected that I could love a song more than ACC... and than came "Les Collines" :wub::wub::wub:

I never ever wanna leave you Alizée!!!

[Roman]

Sweet. Well, that's cool that "she" sent me that song since I pre-ordered the album. So, they are giving us various perks. Good job.
This one is electro still, but not the same. It's more drum machine. ok, I'm late. It's probably all been said.
It would be nice if Alizée was part of a regular band. They could have made many more songs.

[Alex]

Lyrics Merci a Sébastien Coum
Alizée - Les Collines


Poursuivie
J’ai gagné les collines
J’ai pris le ma…
Quis semé les chiens de chasse
Effacé mes traces
Maquillé ma fuite
Mes valises sont vides
Mon cœur leger
Leger…

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

New York
I’m sorry
I loved you so…
But I have to go
Des vitrines infinies
Des horizons dorés
Je veux m’en passer
Auprès des Hespérides
J’irais panser
De grands félins timides
Paisibles, Plaisirs, Bléssés

REFRAIN
Mes valises sont vides
Mon cœur leger
Leger….


EDIT: Thanks for the heads up Roman and Ben, If it still needs improvements feel free to edit the lyrics Ben :)

[alizeeindia]

Well I think the song is just amazing. Its got everything that I desired from a new single from her. I was disappointed by Limelight, but this one keeps my hopes high again.

[Roman]

Speaking of Madonna, that was actually one of my first thoughts. She sounds more like Madonna (as much as Alizée might).
And it's never ever wanna leave you I believe.

[Ronald]

UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH...............

This song really rocks from the very first minute;)

[alizeeindia]

As I have continuously played it at least 10 times till now, I don't think the chorus is too repetitive. It just emphasizes what is to be told and only adds to the beauty of the song :)

[Fenris]

it's a beautiful song for sure, ok, chorus tends to be repetitive, but the song grows on you!
The parts where she sings french are most lovely!
Also has potential for club remixes...

[lefty12357]

I have listened to Les collines a few times now and I have to say I really do like it a lot. I do feel a bit more could have been done with the chorus from a melody standpoint, but all in all, it's pretty cool. :). And I love Alizée's voice ! She's getting into that lower part of her range that I like so much, but also some of those sweet higher notes.

[pepelepew]

Not bad for electropop. I love her voice though not a news flash. I agree with Roman that I would have preferred a real band with many more options although I am refraining from any real criticism until I hear the album in whole. The single is very catchy even with minimal lyrics. Easy songs to memorize lol! Alizee could hire A Flock of Seagulls as her touring band Ha! Ha! Ha! If it all remains electro her personal lap top will be all she will need on stage with her in concert and some speakers and a microphone of course.:)

[Plaz]

One little thing I noticed is that you can faintly hear the previous song fade out at the very beginning of this, suggesting that she really is going with the whole concept album, songs flowing into one another thing. ;)



i think thats something the institube dj/producers did... most EDM albums tend to be "mixed" so that it flows seamlessly from one song into another...

[Karin]

coool... next good song which I will hear on my way to school :D

[Människöpesten]

or maybe this is simply an alizée-roll :O

[Addict]

The french parts are definitely the best. I love how low she sings in this song.

[Rachelizee]

Just been listening to it now and i ..... love it !! :wub:

Really can't wait for the end of March now. :D

And i know i really shouldn't but i do get a buzz out of seeing a new e-mail from Alizée. :p

[Ronald]

I was so exited, that after I downloaded the single I forgot to turn on the power of my computer speakers:rolleyes: so I had no sound, it took me a minute to realise that:eek:

[woohoo]

Cant wait for it to come out tommorow so i can listen to it.

[Toc De Mac]

Cant wait for it to come out tommorow so i can listen to it.

Psssssssssssst: Youtube ;)

[Topaz]

This is a wonderful track. Two thumbs up. hehe :)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/Alizee_01.jpghttp://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/HesperidesHills.jpghttp://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/small-1-2.gif

[woohoo]

ahh yes its very good thanks for the tip.

[ImRawdg]

Heh, I like it better than the first one, but I hope she doesn't octave-double her voice on the WHOLE album :rolleyes:

[Eldrick]

Wow! Just listened to it 10 times in a dark room and gotta say, I'm loving it. Best bit? Lili's vocals, still totally unmistakable and still so sweet. She's still got it!

[wasabi622]

I'm getting a general idea of how this album is probably going to sound. It's not something I'm used to, but of course, that can change. :D

I absolutely LOVE that it switches a bit from English to French!!

[Fyrel]

I absolutely LOVE that it switches a bit from English to French!!

It's awesome! I didn't even notice the first couple times I listened, but man, it's really sweet.

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

*Lilly overload* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! **taking a deep breath** AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEW ALBUM TO COME OUT!! "Les collines" IS SO MESMERIZING!! :D

[FanDeAliFee]

...I got chills when she mentioned New York. Very good song overall.

Within the last week I ran across the Web page at:
http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/de/node/666

It writes it was published 01/2001 and is titled: "The fifteen little Alizée secrets."
Perhaps you know them, but many were new to me. Among them are these:
<blockquote>
...her trip to New York last summer...

...Mylène Farmer. A trip to New York sealed their current friendship...

She takes with her a series of good-luck charms: a chain, a pendant, a subway ticket that she brought back from New York and lots of bracelets.
</blockquote>
I guess that last sentence means that among her lucky charms is/was a MetroCard! I was the last of my family to leave NYC, now long ago, but when I departed one could still only use tokens - gone as of 2003 I now read.

I doubt very much I will ever see Alizée, but I'm charmed that we have a nostalgia for the subway in common: I still have some old tokens as keepsakes!

<center>
Edie Sedgwick era subway tokens
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/TokenLili.jpg
</center>

[Fèvier]

Just got home from working with my dad and on the way back i was wondering whether the song was out or not and BAM the email appeared.

I instantly put on the headphones, put it up to 100% pressed download, then play and...

WOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D:D:D:D:eek::eek::eek::wub::wub::wub:

[puffyrock2]

Disappointed with the 2 new songs so far. I'll buy the album but i'm glad i didn't pre-order it. For me this new material is too synthetic....too robotic. The opposite of the lush sound present in the earlier material that started to vanish with Psychedelices. This new material brings to mind Melissa Mars and Ladytron, which is fine and well, but not what i really want to hear when i think Alizee. Just my 2 cents currently, it could very well grow on me.

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

Disappointed with the 2 new songs so far. I'll buy the album but i'm glad i didn't pre-order it. For me this new material is too synthetic....too robotic. The opposite of the lush sound present in the earlier material that started to vanish with Psychedelices. This new material brings to mind Melissa Mars and Ladytron, which is fine and well, but not what i really want to hear when i think Alizee. Just my 2 cents currently, it could very well grow on me.

Well I hope it grows on you puffy. I like it, its original and fresh and very mesmerizing. I think its important that Alizee does not become repetitive with her old sound. Suffice it to say change can be good at times. :cool:

[woohoo]

Disappointed with the 2 new songs so far. .

I think that they are not the best alizee songs but i think they are better than some phych songs, and I like Les colloines better than limelight.

edit: I im just happy to be hearing Alizee again.

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

im just happy to be hearing Alizee again.


Agreed! :D

[Ruroshen]

Just listened to it twice, and right out of the gate I prefer it to Limelight. I actually really dig the repetitiveness of the chorus, and I love how it veers from French to English and back without feeling too hokey or forced. Very nicely done.

Neither's exactly super up-tempo, though, which I'm worried about. Awesome though they are, I'm hoping for at least one fast/angry track I can rock out to! :p

Heh, I like it better than the first one, but I hope she doesn't octave-double her voice on the WHOLE album :rolleyes:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It's effective in both songs, but it really has the potential to get old fast if its overdone.

[puffyrock2]

Well hey, we still have about 10 songs left, right? Who knows whats to come.

[LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES]

Well hey, we still have about 10 songs left, right? Who knows whats to come.

Indeed and agreed :cool:

[Fall]

It's awesome when you're gone all day and you come here and read that there's something new waiting for you. It reminds me of when I bought the albums. About the song, I don't know if I like it more or less than Limelight, I think they're about the same. I'll give it some time to see which I like better, but either way I'm lovin' them both :D I like the chorus, repetitive or not, and I like the "Oooh." I'm really liking the direction of this new album so far, perhaps I'll look for other stuff from this genre that I'm being introduced to, and that's one of the many cool things I've experienced as an Alizée fan. :)

[User22]

AAAHHHH!!!!THIS SONG IS SOOOO AMAZING!!!!!it can def rise to the top, just as well as Moi...Lolita haha

Edit:

I like the chorus, repetitive or not, and I like the "Oooh." I'm really liking the direction of this new album so far, perhaps I'll look for other stuff from this genre that I'm being introduced to, and that's one of the many cool things I've experienced as an Alizée fan. :)

So far in my eyes:

1)Les Collines-just cuz it's faster and way more catchy.
2)Limelight-very cool....very very cool haha

Ok I love the "Oooh." in this song cuz it sooo reminds me of the "Uhhh" in the 2nd verse of "I'm Fed Up". I AM SCREAMING LIKE A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHEN I HEAR THIS SONG......AMAZING!!!!!It's def gonna rise to the top as well as Moi...Lolita haha. And I LOVE the opening soooo much.....AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!I have 12plays on iTunes already ahaha

[ALS]

Well I hope it grows on you puffy. I like it, its original and fresh and very mesmerizing. I think it important that Alizee does not become repetitive with her old. Suffice it to say change can be good at times. :cool:

I could not agree more. :)

[Karlalizee]

i watched the video today. i liked the song the first time i heard it. :)

[User22]

I could not agree more. :)

yah i just hate how everyone still expects "Mes Courants Electriques 2". It's like come on in order to sell she needs to change. And she changed for the better cuz Les Collines is AMAZING!!!!

[user472884]

oh man... crazy day...

my internet craps out in the morning... also the school library was updating the computers so we couldn't use them... my iPod touch battery was dead... come home and fall asleep... wake up at 8pm and find A NEW FRIGGIN SONG!?!?!!

I have to stop sleeping.

----
Holy moly... my first impression....

I appreciate Limelight a hell of a lot more now, and that it was released before this little gem.

I couldn't (I'm also still in a bit of twilight) even tell that there were English, not to mention French lyrics in the song... all I heard was "nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh" for three and a half minutes.

I agree that this is a filler track, and not a very good one at that. Though, I'm sure my opinion of this song will improve with time... but at this current point, the bar isn't very high.

[puffyrock2]

yah i just hate how everyone still expects "Mes Courants Electriques 2". It's like come on in order to sell she needs to change. And she changed for the better cuz Les Collines is AMAZING!!!!

I don't expect her to make MCE 2 ,but i may be biased, because i like bands such as AC/DC and Motorhead who haven't changed their music in the last in 30 years. Yes, change can be great, but change and consistency don't always go hand in hand. You win some, you lose some. Also, one of Alizee's idols is Madonna, who re-invented herself many times through the years, usually with great commercial success each time. Can't blame Alizee for wanting to do that. Besides, i don't think Alizee can possible come up with something as bad as Madonna's most recent album.....although it did sell well.

[User22]

I don't expect her to make MCE 2 ,but i may be biased, because i like bands such as AC/DC and Motorhead who haven't changed their music in the last in 30 years. Yes, change can be great, but change and consistency don't always go hand in hand. You win some, you lose some. Also, one of Alizee's idols is Madonna, who re-invented herself many times through the years, usually with great commercial success each time. Can't blame Alizee for wanting to do that. Besides, i don't think Alizee can possible come up with something as bad as Madonna's most recent album.....although it did sell well.

Hahaha no wonder...

[lefty12357]

Even though I like both the songs we’ve heard so far, I wouldn’t have expected either one of them to be the first single. I would have thought they would pick something real upbeat with a driving rhythm. Of course having not heard the rest of the album, who knows if there is a song like that on the album. Maybe Les collines is the best choice. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what the rest of it sounds like.
I, for one, am more than ready to hear the whole thing. :)

[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

The music was good then it got repetitive. A 15 second chorus with a whole 6 different words, a 2nd chorus of 35 seconds same 6 words, followed by an ending of 35+ seconds of the same 6 words all repeated in the same tone.

Regards,

Jung

[User22]

I just blasted it, then I didn't really care how repetitive it is. Plus it's easy to learn and sing haha

[LadyCameronXIII]

My two cents...

These two songs thus far definitely work under the cover of darkness, preferably (in my imagination) driving through the city's highways, the lamps rushing, pulsing above as you roar on by, the skyline in distance, then encroaching into vision faster and faster until the skybridges and skyscrapers are above your head (like in Seattle, par example). If you have a lake or a river next to you as well on your night journey, all the better.

I love this sound, and under the right conditions, it would be easy to go from IDM to EBM/electro-industrial/gothic while still keeping the vibes in order. In short, though, I'm very happy to place Alizée among the likes of Depeche Mode, Front 242, Essence of Mind and Psy'Aviah, at least with these two songs, and possibly the entire album.

Finally, some geekery: I had to straighten things up a bit with the metadata/album art for the .mp3 file so that it would look okay under Songbird and in my Sansa Fuze. Here's what I found...

Bitrate: 166 kbps
Sample rate: 44100 Hz
Channels: Stereo

And a bonus: According to EasyTag (a Linux/Windows ID3 tagger I use for inserting metadata and cover art into my podcasts and a certain Alizée mashup :P), the song was encoded by iTunes 8.0.2.20.

And there you go! :D

[paintballpdh19]

i have listened to this song a couple of times and its ok... i like Limelight better but this song is still growing on me... i like the way there is 2 different languages in the song. never-the-less it on my iphone and never coming off :p

[wasabi622]

My two cents...

These two songs thus far definitely work under the cover of darkness, preferably (in my imagination) driving through the city's highways, the lamps rushing, pulsing above as you roar on by, the skyline in distance, then encroaching into vision faster and faster until the skybridges and skyscrapers are above your head (like in Seattle, par example). If you have a lake or a river next to you as well on your night journey, all the better.



Holy crap! You just like read my mind... that's basically how I think this album will turn out.

So in my mind, a definite bye bye to any sort of relation to Gourmandises, MCE, and Psychedelices.

Being conservative I'm opposed to change, but this... this could be good. :D:p:D

[User22]

And a bonus: According to EasyTag (a Linux/Windows ID3 tagger I use for inserting metadata and cover art into my podcasts and a certain Alizée mashup :P), the song was encoded by iTunes 8.0.2.20.

Are you saying that her songs will be on iTunes(French yah, but hopefully American iTunes:D)

i like the way there is 2 different languages in the song. never-the-less it on my iphone and never coming off :p

16plays...yah had it on my iPod in like 2secs haha. But yah I love how she did the French and English together. So i still haven't figured out, Will Les Collines be in all French when it is played over there? cuz why would the French want a 1/2 French 1/2 English Single? Either way they'll like it though

[wasabi622]

16plays...yah had it on my iPod in like 2secs haha. But yah I love how she did the French and English together. So i still haven't figured out, Will Les Collines be in all French when it is played over there? cuz why would the French want a 1/2 French 1/2 English Single? Either way they'll like it though

Come on, that's the best combo for her! You get to hear both her adorable English, annddd, her singing awesomely in French. :p

And, I think she's probably trying to appeal to non-French people too. Though I'm surprised that there hasn't been any Spanish/French songs yet.

[paintballpdh19]

Are you saying that her songs will be on iTunes(French yah, but hopefully American iTunes:D)


lets hope it comes to the American Itunes so that her music is spread here to the US and posssibly gain a lot more fans here.... and maybe, just maybe if enough people are fans, she will grace us with an appearance. :wub: (its a long shot though)

[Ben]

Mixing French and English is very popular and common these days. English is "cool", while French keeps it familiar. I doubt there will be different versions.

[Tupuz]

I tried to translate the lyrics of 'Les Collines'. The first challenge was to get the French words right, because they are not published yet. I have got some help from certain French forums, however. Also, as English is not my mother language, so there might be some 'bugs' in my English.

Anyway this is my interpretation (please correct me):

French:

Poursuivi j'ai gagné les collines
J'ai pris le mal qui semait les chiens de chasses
Effacer mes traces, maquiller ma fuite
Mes valises sont vides, mon coeur léger...léger

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

New-York I'm sorry but I loved you so,
But I have to go
Des vitrines infinies, des horizons dorés
Je veux m'en passer
Auprès des Hespérides j'irais panser
des grands félins timides, paisibles, plaisirs,
Bléssés

Refrain

Mes valises sont vides, mon coeur léger...léger

Refrain


English:

Pursued I won the hills
I’ve chosen the evil that sowed the hunting dogs
Erase my tracks, make up my escape
My bags are empty, my heart light…light

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

New-York I'm sorry but I loved you so,
But I have to go
Infinite showcases, the golden horizons
I want to pass them
Close to the Hespérides I would groom
of big timid cats - calm, pleasant,
Wounded

Chorus

My bags are empty, my heart light…light

Chorus

[Toc De Mac]

I think that the lyrics you translated are slightly off. Here's what Sébastien from Lilly Town says:

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=151849&postcount=28

:)

[User22]

LES COLLINES ON ALIZEEOFFICIEL's YOUTUBE CHANNEL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/alizeeofficiel#p/u/1/k30jNZcul2E

[johnkim2222003]

It sounds like a Mylene Farmer's song and her voice has changed to Mylene Farmer's. Hopefully, she will become Mylene.

LES COLLINES ON ALIZEEOFFICIEL's YOUTUBE CHANNEL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/alizeeofficiel#p/u/1/k30jNZcul2E

[Criss_pl]

As always I'm late for the party here, but I discovered song yesterday and listened to it many, many times.
I like it, especially the French-English mix. Maybe chorus is repetitive, but it has some dark climat inside.


@Tupuz
I think that instead of "blesser...blesser ...blesser." there is like in Sébastien Coum's version provided by Alex "Paisibles, Plaisirs, Bléssés" It's only slight difference, hard to catch, if you aren't native French or a very good French speaker, but I'd prefer it, cause it makes more sense for me.

Second thing is in French lyrics:
The verbs panser and penser are the homophones, so it's hard to tell which of them is in lyrics.
Penser means generally 'to think', while panser means to bandage, to dress(a wound) or to groom.
For me panser makes more sense, it naturally connects with 'Bléssés' - hurt.
The second thing is that meaning 'to groom' matches those timid cats in next verse.

[...] j'irais panser
De(s) grands félins timides Paisibles, Plaisirs, Bléssés -
[...] I would groom/bandage -- any better verb that would contain both meanings
of big timid cats, calm... pleasant... hurt

[warren_brown2013]

i'm just listening to alizee new song right now, for the every first itme. so far, is awesome!!!!

[Sir Wood]

Knock yourselves out. :p (Follow the link for a larger version of the pic ;) )

@Jive_Epic [Cover] Alizée - Les Collines (Never Leave You) http://twitpic.com/13rn4n - Le titre en écoute sur http://bit.ly/aExHo5

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8494/coverlescollines.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/coverlescollines.jpg/)

[Deepwaters]

Oh, my God, I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!

The chorus is repetitive but I like that part best. It throbs, it moves, it pounds in the blood, and Oh, that voice! I love to hear that voice whispering those words in my ear! :)

One thing about French speakers writing lyrics in English. French has no accented syllables, so French lyrics can flow with the rhythm of the music any which way and it doesn't matter. English is different, and therefore a little harder. So in the line "New York I'm sorry," the music's accent falls on the wrong syllable in "sorry" so that it comes out "sorrEE" rather than "SORry" the way it would be spoken and it sounds a little jarring.

However -- this song is awesome. Oh, man, now I'm really psyched to get this album. I can't wait for March.

[Tupuz]

As always I'm late for the party here, but I discovered song yesterday and listened to it many, many times.
I like it, especially the French-English mix. Maybe chorus is repetitive, but it has some dark climat inside.


@Tupuz
I think that instead of "blesser...blesser ...blesser." there is like in Sébastien Coum's version provided by Alex "Paisibles, Plaisirs, Bléssés" It's only slight difference, hard to catch, if you aren't native French or a very good French speaker, but I'd prefer it, cause it makes more sense for me.

Second thing is in French lyrics:
The verbs panser and penser are the homophones, so it's hard to tell which of them is in lyrics.
Penser means generally 'to think', while panser means to bandage, to dress(a wound) or to groom.
For me panser makes more sense, it naturally connects with 'Bléssés' - hurt.
The second thing is that meaning 'to groom' matches those timid cats in next verse.

[...] j'irais panser
De(s) grands félins timides Paisibles, Plaisirs, Bléssés -
[...] I would groom/bandage -- any better verb that would contain both meanings
of big timid cats, calm... pleasant... hurt

Thanks Criss_pl! That makes more sense to me also. I made corrections to my post according to your suggestions.

[itsme22]

One thing about French speakers writing lyrics in English. French has no accented syllables, so French lyrics can flow with the rhythm of the music any which way and it doesn't matter.

That's the second time I've heard someone say that this week. Strange. Anyway, I'm guessing that by accented syllables you mean stressed syllables. French does have stressed syllables, it's just more normalized. It's almost always the last syllable: icI, aujourd'HUI, bonJOUR. This would explain the "sorRY" part.

(Funny side note: Italians who seem to resent Carla Bruni will sometimes write her name "Carlà")

[Forrplay]

About the same or slightly slower. The song writer definitely needs a larger vocabulary when it comes to the lyrics.

Why my comment about larger vocabulary. Definitely the chorus was put in to kill some time in the song.

3:44 in length.

85 seconds Lyrics

87 seconds for the chorus

First chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Second chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Third chorus

Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you

Time killer and space filler.

52 seconds music

Yeah but its Alizée's sweet sweet voice it shouldnt matter how long she says anything

[Sir Wood]

Oh, my God, I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!

The chorus is repetitive but I like that part best. It throbs, it moves, it pounds in the blood, and Oh, that voice! I love to hear that voice whispering those words in my ear! :)

One thing about French speakers writing lyrics in English. French has no accented syllables, so French lyrics can flow with the rhythm of the music any which way and it doesn't matter. English is different, and therefore a little harder. So in the line "New York I'm sorry," the music's accent falls on the wrong syllable in "sorry" so that it comes out "sorrEE" rather than "SORry" the way it would be spoken and it sounds a little jarring.

However -- this song is awesome. Oh, man, now I'm really psyched to get this album. I can't wait for March.
Really? I thought it was tres mignon how she said it. :wub: :D

[Scruffydog777]

I like this song. It's just too bad the chorus part is so repetipetipetipetipetipetitive, which is too bad because I think this a song that could really catch on. The only thing that would hinder it's chances is the chorus to lyrics ratio.

[Tupuz]

The lyrics have now been officially released through Alizée's Youtube channel. Here it is:

Poursuivie, j'ai gagné les collines
J'ai pris le maquis
Semé les chiens de chasse, effacé mes traces
Maquillé ma fuite
Mes valises sont vides, mon coeur léger
Léger

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

New York I'm sorry, I have to go
And I loved you so
Tes vitrines infinies, tes horizons dorés,
Je veux m'en passer
Auprès des Hespérides, j'irai panser
De grands félins timides, des cygnes blessés
Blessés

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

Mes valises sont vides, mon coeur léger
Léger

Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never ever wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you
Never wanna leave you

Well, I did not catch all by hearing. :o French is quite difficult, but so cute language...

[Deepwaters]

"J'ai pris le maquis" -- interesting. A reference to Corsica? Again, then, not entirely about Ms. Sedgwick. One takes [to] the maquis meaning one escapes, touching on another expression in english, "take to the hills" or "head for the hills," "collines = hills," but I think Alizée is saying something self-referent here too.

Re the repetitious chorus, I think it works. It beats like a heart. I also think it works better for this to be in English. You could say the same in French and fit the meter ("veux te quitter jamais") but it wouldn't have that same boom . .. boom . . . boom quality to it.

The official lyrics are a bit off from what she sings. It's "New York I'm sorry, I really love you so, but I have to go" on the ear.

[Ben]

Re the repetitious chorus, I think it works. It beats like a heart.
I also think it's a cultural thing. Keeps it simple for French speakers to understand and sing, and probably goes over much better there than here. Not that I mind it too much anyway. But overall I think the English lyrics are probably my biggest disappointment so far in both songs. They seem to be going for artistic minimalism (there are less words than in the past), but often just come off awkward or pretentious. Otherwise musically I really liked Les Collines right off the bat, and Limelight has grown on me.

[Tupuz]

"J'ai pris le maquis" -- interesting. A reference to Corsica? Again, then, not entirely about Ms. Sedgwick. One takes [to] the maquis meaning one escapes, touching on another expression in english, "take to the hills" or "head for the hills," "collines = hills," but I think Alizée is saying something self-referent here too.

"Le maquis" also refers to the resistance groups during the World War II. And of course it is a typical bush in the Mediterranian area.

The official lyrics are a bit off from what she sings. It's "New York I'm sorry, I really love you so, but I have to go" on the ear.

Yeah, she sings this part in a bit different order.

[Ruroshen]

I also think it's a cultural thing. Keeps it simple for French speakers to understand and sing, and probably goes over much better there than here. Not that I mind it too much anyway.

Exactly. We have to keep in mind that we're not her primary market...or even her secondary market for that matter. I definitely think that the English components of both songs were kept relatively simple on purpose, and though it might leave us a little wanting, I believe it's actually a very smart decision.

Otherwise musically I really liked Les Collines right off the bat, and Limelight has grown on me.

Yeah, Limelight has actually grown on me quite a bit, though the spoken word bit at the end still strikes me as extraordinarily goofy.

[Deepwaters]

"Le maquis" also refers to the resistance groups during the World War II. And of course it is a typical bush in the Mediterranian area.

Right, but in context I don't think it can relate to the WWII resistance. "J'ai pris le maquis" = "I took the maquis" literally, and figuratively means the same as "I headed for the hills." But that choice of expression -- OK, consider the context of Sedgwick in NY. However common a Mediterranean shrub we're talking about, it doesn't grow in New York State. But it's archetypically Corsican, and that suggests to me that she's drawing all of this back to herself and her own life and situation.

There is some reason why she chose to produce a theme album about the life of Edie Sedgwick, some link or similarity or resonance between Sedgwick and Alizée herself. It can't be anything simple or obvious, because beyond rapid fame and sex appeal there's not much surface similarity at all. I'm going to be listening to the songs from this album with that in mind, and looking for what she's telling us about herself in the course of singing about the life of Ms. Sedgwick.

[Tupuz]

Right, but in context I don't think it can relate to the WWII resistance. "J'ai pris le maquis" = "I took the maquis" literally, and figuratively means the same as "I headed for the hills." But that choice of expression -- OK, consider the context of Sedgwick in NY. However common a Mediterranean shrub we're talking about, it doesn't grow in New York State. But it's archetypically Corsican, and that suggests to me that she's drawing all of this back to herself and her own life and situation.


I agree on this. It will be very interesting to hear the whole album. I also believe that there will be a message referring to Alizée herself in it. Let's wait and see (hear actually :) )

[Ruroshen]

"J'ai pris le maquis" -- interesting. A reference to Corsica? Again, then, not entirely about Ms. Sedgwick. One takes [to] the maquis meaning one escapes, touching on another expression in english, "take to the hills" or "head for the hills," "collines = hills," but I think Alizée is saying something self-referent here too.

"Le maquis" also refers to the resistance groups during the World War II. And of course it is a typical bush in the Mediterranian area.

Wait, so you guys are saying it's not a reference to Star Trek? Really? Dang.

Oh well...I guess I still like the song, anwyay... :p

[FanDeAliFee]

The lyrics have now been officially released through Alizée's Youtube channel. Here it is....

New York I'm sorry, I have to go
And I loved you so
Tes vitrines infinies, tes horizons dorés,
Je veux m'en passer
Auprès des Hespérides, j'irai panser
De grands félins timides, des cygnes blessés
Blessés

Let's translate those lyrics as follows, observing the lyrics actually sung (vs. published) with suggested improvements per <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151974">Toc de Mac</a>
<blockquote>
New York, I'm sorry, I loved you so,
But I have to go,
Your endless shop-windows
Your golden skylines

I'll do without them,
Beside the Hesperides, I'll heal
The timid big cats, the wounded swans,
Wounded
</blockquote>
I'd like to at least start to explore the allegorical aspect of this passage. (I'm happy the improved translation now used does not effect the analysis originally offered here.) I'm not sure I have it quite right yet. It seems to emerge from Alizée's western Mediterranean origin.

Please recall that Alizée's New York (City) with the <i><big><big>golden</big></big> skylines</i> is commonly called the <i>Big <big><big>Apple</big></big></i>. Ihe Goddess Hera's orchard in the west was called <i>The Garden of the <big><big>Hesperides</big></big></i> - and just so happened to feature golden apples. These fruit were remarkable in that their consumption would endow immortality, and so were guarded from three resident women by a serpent. In contrast, in the Garden of Eden, the fruit of tree would endow <i>Knowledge of Good and Evil</i> and bring retributive death, with a serpent encouraging their consumption by a woman.

Note that Venus (Greek Aphrodite), the Goddess of erotic love (cf. "venereal"), when manifested as the Evening Star, was called Hesperus (Greek Hesperos), the same name used for the father of the Hesperides. This suggests an association between the Hesperides and erotic love, which is interesting when one looks upon them as the pagan counterparts to the Biblical Eve.

With this as background, it is interesting that the first track of <i>Une Enfant Du Siècle</i> is <a href="http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Alizee/news-69487.html">titled</a> <i>Eden Eden</i>.<table align="center" cellspacing="20"><tr><td width="244" align="center"><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=HERCULES%20IN%20THE%20GARDEN%20OF%20T HE%20HESPERIDES"> <img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Dictionary_Of_Roman_Coins/webimages/P456S0/M1_4.gif"></a>Garden of the Hesperides</td>
<td width="200" align="center"><a href="http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/thing?id=12982096"><img src="http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=12982096" width="200" height="200"></a>Garden of Eden</td>
</tr></table>The hero Hercules (Greek Herakles) undertook a famous set of labors, the penultimate of these being to <a href="http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/apples_of_the_hesperides.html">pluck three such golden apples</a>. Prior to this, he had had violent encounters with both a big cat (the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemean_lion">Nemean lion</a>) and <a href="http://www.pantheon.org/articles/c/cycnus.html">Cygnus</a>, who in various conflicting legends is turned into a swan, providing the etymology for the French word for that animal. Perhaps this explains why Alizée sings of both big cats and swans which seem most chastened.

Of course it remains a mystery how Alizée aspires to heal a <i>deceased</i> big cat like the Nemean lion, unless she <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=150366">really is the <i>Sang Réal</i></a>, mon Dieu! ;)

But then maybe I'm all wet and this "timid big cat" is better known to all as <i>The Cowardly Lion</i>, making it an allusion to the famous "anatomically-correct" <a href="http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/2010Jan/">retelling of <i>The Wizard of Oz</i></a> in <i>Moi... Lolita</i>. This alternative hypothesis makes explaining the swan problematic. The most famous legendary wounded swan is that in a <a href="http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/buddhism/lifebuddha/5lbud.htm">story about Siddhartha</a>, later the Buddha. But what all these guys were doing hanging out near Gibraltar is of course unaddressed!

Comical aside: In one genealogy, Cygnus is the son of the God Mars, and so is literally a Martian. I suppose this is why there are so many captioned single-frame cartoons in which a Martian swan steps out of a spaceship which has landed on planet Earth and demands "Take me to your Leda!" :p

[Fenris]

Oh, that voice! I love to hear that voice whispering those words in my ear! :)


LOL, never looked at the refrain from this perspective...maybe i grow to like it more now! ;)

Seriously, i would have preferred a shorter refrain and some additional lyrics instead, but it's nice to see that many people seem to love the song the way it is.
The combination of french and english is also a very good move, takes the best from two worlds, the beauty of the french language and the bigger audience english can provide.
If things go well, this album could give her a cult following of electro-lovers, but i also expect her to loose some old fans who are not into the new style.

So far, the reception the song gets in the net seems to be quite positive, remains to be seen how the radios and the greater public will take it...

All in all, i never expected our little Lilly to come up with such cool music, chapeau! My respect for her musical tastes has gone up a notch.
My love she already has.. ;)

[Toc De Mac]

Here's my take on the French bits:

Thanks to Deepwaters for input.
--------------------------------------------
The Hills

Hunted, I've reached the hills,
I've gone underground,
Thrown off the hound-dogs, covered my tracks,
Disguised my flight,
My bags are empty, my heart light,
Light

...

New York, I'm sorry, I loved you so,
But I have to go,
Your neverending windows*, your golden skyline,
I'll do without them,*
Beside the Hesperides, I will go dress
The timid big-cats, the wounded swans,
Wounded
--------------------------------------------

*Shop windows
*Literally: I want to do without them.

prendre le maquis: d'origine corse, signifiant se réfugier dans la forêt pour se soustraire aux autorités ou à une vendetta

[Deepwaters]

Not bad, Toc de Mac, but I would suggest one small change. I think "Je veux" in Je veux m'en passer would better be translated as "I will" than as "I want to." In context, she doesn't want to do without New York, but she will.

[Toc De Mac]

Not bad, Toc de Mac, but I would suggest one small change. I think "Je veux" in Je veux m'en passer would better be translated as "I will" than as "I want to." In context, she doesn't want to do without New York, but she will.

I was hesitating between the two. And I think it sounds better as "will." My thoughts were that she perhaps cannot do without the city, knows the atmosphere is harmful to her, so she "wants"/tries to do without it.

I'll leave both.

[timonjacobs]

Fast little remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pSSUtu5hVY

Hope we get some professional remixes soon.:rolleyes:

[Criss_pl]

Great job Toc de Mac. I made my try, but I didn't catch all the French phrases:)
Now it's clear.
But I think that further and deeper analysis should be postponed to relase of the album, then we'll be able to refer to album wholly and the full story standing behind it. Now it's time for speculations.
Who is the person (maybe what's the thing) she 'never wanna leave'?

@docdtv
Don't you think that you are going a bit too far sometimes:p

I have some thoughts on this song, but I didn't connected them into a coherent interpretation.

[LadyCameronXIII]

Are you saying that her songs will be on iTunes(French yah, but hopefully American iTunes:D)

lets hope it comes to the American Itunes so that her music is spread here to the US and posssibly gain a lot more fans here.... and maybe, just maybe if enough people are fans, she will grace us with an appearance. :wub: (its a long shot though)

Well, I'm not saying that it would be in the American iTunes Store--though that would be very cool if Jive Epic France allowed the new album to be sold on our shores digitally speaking--but rather that someone encoded the ID3 tags that were there with that version of iTunes; guess they think 9 blows or something. *shrugs*

[Ran Vijay]

Well, I like both the songs released so far, Les Collines seems better than Limelight. But I have a question her earlier singles were accompanied with a video. why no video for Les collines?

[FanDeAliFee]

@docdtv
Don't you think that you are going a bit too far sometimes:p


<i>Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp,
Or what's a heaven for?</i>
- <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Browning#Men_and_Women_.281855.29">Robert Browning (1812–1889), <i>Men and Women</i> (1855)</a>

[paintballpdh19]

i still like Limelight better than this song. i feel that Limelight is more catchy than LC

[Roman]

I agree about the English lyrics. I feel like this album so far is one that was put together to be released quickly in summer or maybe autumn 2009 to take advantage of the popularity Alizée had and actually maybe people like Château Marmont as well. I kind of felt like that is what they should have done and sure enough... I really like the music at the beginning of Les Collines, but maybe we now expect too much after the good lyrics writing of the past. Overall these first two just feel rushed to me, though yes, one can not imagine that they could take any more time to work on it. It is what it is.

I think I like Les Collines better too. So far it seems catchy while I'm listening to it, but not annoyingly so in spite of the repetition and lack of a full third stanza. Ok, 8 more songs to go.

Edit: ok, after reading doctv I remember that oh yeah, they do have some interesting references here. I think I just didn't really get it. I sort of think now like they really only had a couple songs and stretched it into an entire album (well, duh, it's a concept album, it's supposed to be like that to some extent). Anyway...

to quote Deep:
it's archetypically Corsican, and that suggests to me that she's drawing all of this back to herself and her own life and situation.

There is some reason why she chose to produce a theme album about the life of Edie Sedgwick, some link or similarity or resonance between Sedgwick and Alizée herself. It can't be anything simple or obvious, because beyond rapid fame and sex appeal there's not much surface similarity at all. I'm going to be listening to the songs from this album with that in mind, and looking for what she's telling us about herself in the course of singing about the life of Ms. Sedgwick I agree that one gets a definite vibe (whether true or not) of this tying back to Alizée. That's a good thing since it ties the work tighter to her. There is actually a bit of something that I remember from the movie "Factory Girl". Someone said something about Edie being the first woman to be a celebrity without really doing anything in particular. I think it was the times. Warhol was an artist, but that's even debateable. It's not really the same with Alizée. She's a singer. But still, one could almost suggest that she just sort of fell into this position and it was the force of the whole persona that Alizée represented that made her a celebrity not because she set out to be a great singer. She makes music, but as far as I know has no education in music and just tells people what she likes. She does not even work with a band, but now has done four albums with three groups of people. So, one can make the argument that like Edie Alizée is a celebrity largely of personality, in spite of the paradoxical fact that she is hardly what you'd call outgoing and in your face. In any case, this analogy fuels the imagination and I guess maybe that makes it a good one to play on for this album even if personally have no particular interest in Segwick or those times.

[Junkmale]

I quite like the new song allthough i prefer the 'snippet' of Limelight.
It's a bit of a 'grower' which improves with frequent listens.
So far, things for the whole album are looking pretty positive.

[paintballpdh19]

I quite like the new song allthough i prefer the 'snippet' of Limelight.
It's a bit of a 'grower' which improves with frequent listens.
So far, things for the whole album are looking pretty positive.

heres the whole song of limelight if u didnt find it already: http://mouloud.blog.canalplus.fr/ play button below picture

[Scruffydog777]

Like I and just about everyone else has said, the chorus part is a little too repetitious, but it is catchy. If the attent of this song was to target New York, it may have been a very smart move on her part. If she could come up with a really good video for this song, the main focus of which of course would be N. Y., I could definitely see a possible break through into the U.S. market. A couple of more lines in English would have helped in this regard. If it does get in to the U.S., Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" may have helped pave the way with it's inclusion of some French lyrics and coming out hot on the heels of that song could be perfect timing. With the Yankees winning the world series this past fall (darn it!), I see a lot of renewed pride in the displaying of NY colors abroad. I could just see a lot of people in NY singing that line "Never want to leave you", knowing it was about their city. It would even be very smart of her to use a clip of the Yankees in her video (Oh my God, what am I saying? Ted Williams please forgive me!)

Back in 2003, she was handicapped by a bad U.S.A. political climate (freedom fries) and the poor re-writing of her songs from French into English by MF, but now seems like the perfect time and if this song did catch on here, so many people would find out about her older songs. I think it's an exciting possiblity.

[Junkmale]

heres the whole song of limelight if u didnt find it already: http://mouloud.blog.canalplus.fr/ play button below picture

Hey, thanks for that. I didn't know that the full version was out there. I've been away for a few days.
I must admit it's even better in full.
It's very Little Boots and there is nothing wrong with that.
Roll on March. Did i mention that my birthday is the 28th March?
It'll be a nice present:)

[AlizéeDuSiècle]

I like the beat in this one

[User22]

I like the beat in this one

Short and sweet...I like it. I just can't get enough of this song! I think it is repetitve in a good way. It get's into people's minds and it is sooo tantalizing that it makes one have to hear it again and again....NEVER WANNA LEAVE YOU!!!:D

[paintballpdh19]

I like the beat in this one

the beat is good but the lyrics are... meh...

[User22]

the beat is good but the lyrics are... meh...

Random and off track, but PDH i just have to ask, who is that girl as your avatar? I always wanted to ask just cuz I dunno.

[Billie]

I Listened to this before i went to school, And i had it stuck in my head all day... I really like her new album so far.

[User22]

I Listened to this before i went to school, And i had it stuck in my head all day... I really like her new album so far.

Woh....like...me too!!!!NEVER WANNA LEAVE YOU!!!- Its in like so many pitches because of the vocoder which is totally awesome, and therefore cannot be monotonous:D

[Tupuz]

Thanks Toc de Mac, Deepwaters, Criss_pl, Roman and others for excellent job in translations! Now I think we have got the words right.

The deeper message of the song is still open, but I believe docdtv is on the right track here: http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=151971&postcount=100. His explanations make sense to me and so many details support that. This song really has a lot more depth than we could imagine at the first hearing.

I love this song!!! I have thought that nothing could beat those lovely tunes of Gourmandises, MCE or even Psychédélices, but I was wrong. These two pieces from the new album show that we will have an exteremely good springtime ahead!

[AceTone]

The repetition can be a good thing,
The secret to the Black Eyed Peas' success (http://s.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2010/2/1/16/the-secret-to-the-black-eyed-peas-success-20821-1265059219-3.jpg)

[Chuck]

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen of the forum. :rolleyes:

It's come to my attention that our contributions to the website "Charts In France" have caught their attention. And actually surprised a number of froggy folks there. And so I'd like to thank everyone so far. Hey, thanks, everyone! So Far!

It's also made me realize that we're now helping Alizée's nefarious plans (to take over the world, of course) in a very real way. We're playing a part in a viral marketing experiment! More importantly, the experiment seems to be working... :eek:

But it's not over yet - no siree, not by a longshot. And the question's been asked: "can we do it again?" But I wasn't sure. Can anybody here do it again, for Alizée?

TO GET TO THE POINT, ALREADY... (!)
The same website, ChartsInFrance.net, has now (on wed.) put up the exact same type of page for the new single, "Les Collines". So once again, we should try to weigh in on this. Let em know over there that we're listening in over here. I added the links onto my sig, so now you just have to click below and there you go!

If you didn't hear all this before (or didn't go comment about "Limelight" yet), it's never too late. Just click below, then when you're on the ChartsInFrance page, scroll down, down, and down. There you'll see the comments posted about the song you've chosen. Below those is the button marked "Ajouter un Commentaire", (which means "add a comment"). Click that, and you're off! No fees, no signups, you don't even hafta leave your name or e-mail or anything. ALSO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW OR WRITE IN FRENCH. In fact, the point IS to let 'em know we're American. And that we're paying attention from way over here.

Just keep it short and sweet, that's the main thing. You can leave a name if you want, mention AlizéeAmerica.com if so desired, and you can write it all in English, or Spanish, or Swahili if you prefer. So don't be afraid. They're way more scared of us, anyway. ;)

Again, thanks to those who posted comments about "Limelight" already. And thanks in advance for doing it for "Les Collines". Hey, you're part of TeamAlizée now! Give yourselves all a big hand!

[Criss_pl]

Random and off track, but PDH i just have to ask, who is that girl as your avatar? I always wanted to ask just cuz I dunno.
C'est Mademoiselle Alizée! Or Her Grace and Beauty, whichever you want.

<i>Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp,
Or what's a heaven for?</i>
- <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Browning#Men_and_Women_.281855.29">Robert Browning (1812–1889), <i>Men and Women</i> (1855)</a>

Yes, so true...

[Plaz]

soo after 2days of sippin syrup i finally took some time out to listen... iactually like this song alot... love the breakbeats.. it definitely has some tech house vibes and trancey melodies which is always good for me....

[djwise]

finally actually listened to the song...it is official...drums kill me. plain & simple. i love 'em. drumsdrumsdrumsdrums! hence why i liked "mon maquis" so much, lol. drums...:wub:

[User22]

C'est Mademoiselle Alizée! Or Her Grace and Beauty, whichever you want.

No way. Then what picture was it from and when was it? I thought it was his wife or something so I didn't want to say, "Who's that really hot chick as your avatar?" hahaha

Oh and don't worry chuck I let them know what I think about both songs over on ChartsinFrance.com. I told em' to come over here and join us if they would like haha

[Fenris]

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen of the forum. :rolleyes:

It's come to my attention that our contributions to the website "Charts In France" have caught their attention. And actually surprised a number of froggy folks there. And so I'd like to thank everyone so far. Hey, thanks, everyone! So Far!

It's also made me realize that we're now helping Alizée's nefarious plans (to take over the world, of course) in a very real way. We're playing a part in a viral marketing experiment! More importantly, the experiment seems to be working... :eek:

But it's not over yet - no siree, not by a longshot. And the question's been asked: "can we do it again?" But I wasn't sure. Can anybody here do it again, for Alizée?

TO GET TO THE POINT, ALREADY... (!)
The same website, ChartsInFrance.net, has now (on wed.) put up the exact same type of page for the new single, "Les Collines". So once again, we should try to weigh in on this. Let em know over there that we're listening in over here. I added the links onto my sig, so now you just have to click below and there you go!

If you didn't hear all this before (or didn't go comment about "Limelight" yet), it's never too late. Just click below, then when you're on the ChartsInFrance page, scroll down, down, and down. There you'll see the comments posted about the song you've chosen. Below those is the button marked "Ajouter un Commentaire", (which means "add a comment"). Click that, and you're off! No fees, no signups, you don't even hafta leave your name or e-mail or anything. ALSO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW OR WRITE IN FRENCH. In fact, the point IS to let 'em know we're American. And that we're paying attention from way over here.

Just keep it short and sweet, that's the main thing. You can leave a name if you want, mention AlizéeAmerica.com if so desired, and you can write it all in English, or Spanish, or Swahili if you prefer. So don't be afraid. They're way more scared of us, anyway. ;)

Again, thanks to those who posted comments about "Limelight" already. And thanks in advance for doing it for "Les Collines". Hey, you're part of TeamAlizée now! Give yourselves all a big hand!

Hi Chuck, finally i know the truth about you: You are not really american but a french fan in disguise! :D

Those frenchies really have no idea! :blink:

[Fall]

No way
Actually, way. Click the pic to enlarge.
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Alizee/th_AJ1249.jpg (http://s566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Alizee/?action=view&current=AJ1249.jpg)

[User22]

Actually, way. Click the pic to enlarge.
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Alizee/th_AJ1249.jpg (http://s566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/Fall06/Alizee/?action=view&current=AJ1249.jpg)

WOH!!! I think I saw a pic of this at some point but it was from a bad angle. She looks great right there; perfect Gourmandises hair, she looks like she is 23 and smokin' haha, and she has the best smile on.:wub::wub::wub:

[lefty12357]

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen of the forum. :rolleyes:

It's come to my attention that our contributions to the website "Charts In France" have caught their attention. And actually surprised a number of froggy folks there. And so I'd like to thank everyone so far. Hey, thanks, everyone! So Far!

It's also made me realize that we're now helping Alizée's nefarious plans (to take over the world, of course) in a very real way. We're playing a part in a viral marketing experiment! More importantly, the experiment seems to be working... :eek:

But it's not over yet - no siree, not by a longshot. And the question's been asked: "can we do it again?" But I wasn't sure. Can anybody here do it again, for Alizée?

TO GET TO THE POINT, ALREADY... (!)
The same website, ChartsInFrance.net, has now (on wed.) put up the exact same type of page for the new single, "Les Collines". So once again, we should try to weigh in on this. Let em know over there that we're listening in over here. I added the links onto my sig, so now you just have to click below and there you go!

If you didn't hear all this before (or didn't go comment about "Limelight" yet), it's never too late. Just click below, then when you're on the ChartsInFrance page, scroll down, down, and down. There you'll see the comments posted about the song you've chosen. Below those is the button marked "Ajouter un Commentaire", (which means "add a comment"). Click that, and you're off! No fees, no signups, you don't even hafta leave your name or e-mail or anything. ALSO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW OR WRITE IN FRENCH. In fact, the point IS to let 'em know we're American. And that we're paying attention from way over here.

Just keep it short and sweet, that's the main thing. You can leave a name if you want, mention AlizéeAmerica.com if so desired, and you can write it all in English, or Spanish, or Swahili if you prefer. So don't be afraid. They're way more scared of us, anyway. ;)

Again, thanks to those who posted comments about "Limelight" already. And thanks in advance for doing it for "Les Collines". Hey, you're part of TeamAlizée now! Give yourselves all a big hand!

Well it looks like we are getting some people posting. Great work Chuck !
It would be nice to get a few more people doing it. I find it rather humorous (and sort of sad) that some of the French people there simply don't believe we are for real. :)

[User22]

Well it looks like we are getting some people posting. Great work Chuck !
It would be nice to get a few more people doing it. I find it rather humorous (and sort of sad) that some of the French people there simply don't believe we are for real. :)

I will try posting mine again, but I submit it and it shows the green check that it was submitted. But then awhile later I go back and see that mine is not on there on Limelight or Les Collines. So if anyone can help me troubleshoot that would be great. My fingers are tired of typing....haha but I'll post again in Keyboarding tomorrow.

[Ruroshen]

No way.

Actually, way.

Nonono...you guys are doin' it wrong!

Regardez, svp:

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45693&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=dc5a6870cb5b44d83db47697b963aaf5

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45695&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=dc5a6870cb5b44d83db47697b963aaf5

Get it right next time, huh? Jeez...! :p

[lefty12357]

I will try posting mine again, but I submit it and it shows the green check that it was submitted. But then awhile later I go back and see that mine is not on there on Limelight or Les Collines. So if anyone can help me troubleshoot that would be great. My fingers are tired of typing....haha but I'll post again in Keyboarding tomorrow.

Are you going to the last page to check? The newest posts are on the last page, not the first. My post showed up, so it worked fine for me.

[User22]

Are you going to the last page to check? The newest posts are on the last page, not the first. My post showed up, so it worked fine for me.

ahh i see...i shall go look again right now...thanks!

HAHAHA this is what I posted again over there:

J'aime beaucoup la façon dont tous les Français sont du genre: «Quoi? Alizée a une énorme base de fans en Amérique? Qui neuf? Nous devons lui dire qu'elle peut vendre ses chansons là-bas! Yah gars vous devez absolument visiter AlizeeAmerica.com. Je veux juste dire que j'aime google.translate.com.

I really like how all the French are like, "What? Alizee has a huge fanbase in America? Who new? We should tell her so she can sell her songs over there!" Yah guys you should definitely visit AlizeeAmerica.com. I just want to say I love google.translate.com.

[CALJ35]

ALS really summed up this new song. The first thing that struck me about the song was how monotonous it was. I really hope this is not one of the better tracks on the new album. And, you shouln't have to listen to the song more than once to decide if you like it. This is pop music (as far as I know) and pop doesn't require that you develop a taste for a particular track.

[User22]

ALS really summed up this new song. The first thing that struck me about the song was how monotonous it was. I really hope this is not one of the better tracks on the new album. And, you shouln't have to listen to the song more than once to decide if you like it. This is pop music (as far as I know) and pop doesn't require that you develop a taste for a particular track.

It can't be monotonous since there was a countless number of pitches she gave off, and the vocoder helped///the music could have made it seem a bit mono though....

[Edcognito]

On the youtube posting from Alizeeofficial for Les Collines!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30jNZcul2E&feature=sdig&et=1266426143.79


Alizée sings:

New York I'm sorry, I loved you so...
But I have to go...

the lyrics posted are:

New York I'm sorry, I have to go
And I loved you so

:blink:

Dont know if you guys caught that, but for me personally, it was a good laugh!:o:o:D




/me grumbles about the dam automerger for "double posting..."
/me sticks out tongue at the "automerger!" :P

My post to "Chartsinfrance"

Edcognito from Alizéeamerica.com!

I'm not normally a fan of techno or electronic or whatever, but I have to say Les Collines and Limelight have really caught my attention! I have pre-ordered the Limited Edition, and am looking forward to Alizée (someday) playing in America!

Merci Alizée!

Edcognito d'Alizéeamerica.com !
I' ; m pas normalement un ventilateur du techno ou électronique ou celui qui, mais moi devions indiquer Les Collines et feux de la rampe ont vraiment attrapé mon attention !
Je pre-ordered l'édition limitée, et l'AM attendant avec intérêt Alizée (un jour) jouant en Amérique !

Merci Alizée !

Thanks also to Babblefish translator!

[Chuck]

Ed, Aaron, everyone else - Nice job! Thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks !!!!! It looks like we're driving them crazy over there!!!

But a little caution - DON'T WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO TRANSLATE INTO FRENCH!!!! Just use everyday English. Add any old expressions or slang terms you want! But esp if you're depending on an online translator, DON'T!!!!

The reasons I say this are a) they're pretty good with English there already, and b) Strange mistakes will occur, guaranteed. Aaron accidentally wrote "Who new" then translated that to "qui neuf" instead of "qui savait" (who knew); likewise, Edcognito said he's a not normally a ventilator. (I should hope you're not, Ed! ;) ) Bless you both no matter what, though! I'm sure we're getting through to them that we're NOT a hoax, that we really ARE Alizée's American fans, and that we may actually even outnumber them! (Heaven forbid!) :eek:

Great goin' all y'all! And isn't this fun? Bye 4 now, Chuck.

[brad]

new update: just wanna add, i really like this song. a lot. :D

I am also really liking the mix of French / English, it is kinda nice understanding some words here and there.

I hope a lot of the other songs are a mix as well.

[Deepwaters]

Actually the crappy French with signs of emerging from an on-line translator is probably good evidence for these silly folk that we're not French pretenders to foreignness.

[Fenris]

Nonono...you guys are doin' it wrong!

Regardez, svp:

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45693&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=dc5a6870cb5b44d83db47697b963aaf5

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45695&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=dc5a6870cb5b44d83db47697b963aaf5

Get it right next time, huh? Jeez...! :p

LOL, Ruroshen.
Too bad you can't post that on ChartsinFrance! :D

Unbelievable that some of those cretins still doubt that her american fans are for real..it only takes a few clicks to get here after all.
Or these are simply Alizée-haters who know better and do it on purpose..

[Scruffydog777]

Is there a good enough understanding of this song yet so someone can put it into layman's terms so stupid people like me can understand it?

In the first melody, she is being hunted. Hunted by who?

In the second melody, she says she has to leave N.Y. city, a city she loved.
Now she's going to the Hesperides. I guess from these interpretations we've had so far, that means she is going to Eden.
Is this Eden in fact Corsica?

But what is she saying in the last part of the second melody.
When she says I will go dress, does that she is going to treat the physical wounds or maybe wounds of the heart and what exactly do the timid big cats and the wounded swan represent? Big cats, is that kind of like big shots?


Here's my take on the French bits:

Thanks to Deepwaters for input.
--------------------------------------------
The Hills

Hunted, I've reached the hills,
I've gone underground,
Thrown off the hound-dogs, covered my tracks,
Disguised my flight,
My bags are empty, my heart light,
Light

...

New York, I'm sorry, I loved you so,
But I have to go,
Your neverending windows*, your golden skyline,
I'll do without them,*
Beside the Hesperides, I will go dress
The timid big-cats, the wounded swans,
Wounded
--------------------------------------------

*Shop windows
*Literally: I want to do without them.

prendre le maquis: d'origine corse, signifiant se réfugier dans la forêt pour se soustraire aux autorités ou à une vendetta

[WindReaver]

Just post the pic of the letter she sent to AA for them.

[Deepwaters]

There is a Buddhist story about a wounded swan coming from the childhood of Prince Siddhartha (the future Buddha). Siddhartha's cousin shot a swan in flight. It fell where Siddhartha could reach it first, and he took it and nursed it back to health. His cousin insisted that, having shot the swan, it belonged to him. The two boys took the question to the local wise man, who ruled that a life belonged to the one who saved it, not the one who tried to destroy it. In some versions of the story, Siddhartha is said to have gone him one better by releasing the swan to freedom, saying that its life belonged to the bird itself.

[Edcognito]

Ed, Aaron, everyone else - Nice job! Thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks !!!!! It looks like we're driving them crazy over there!!!

But a little caution - DON'T WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO TRANSLATE INTO FRENCH!!!! Just use everyday English. Add any old expressions or slang terms you want! But esp if you're depending on an online translator, DON'T!!!!

likewise, Edcognito said he's a not normally a ventilator. (I should hope you're not, Ed! ;) ) Bless you both no matter what, though! I'm sure we're getting through to them that we're NOT a hoax, that we really ARE Alizée's American fans, and that we may actually even outnumber them! (Heaven forbid!) :eek:

Great goin' all y'all! And isn't this fun? Bye 4 now, Chuck.


Ok, THAT made me lol!

No, I'm not a ventilator, might need one if I keep laughing like that (DAM BABBLEFISH!)

How do I say "I'm a fan" of Alizée" instead of "I'm a small electronic device for moving air around a room..."?

[Deepwaters]

Je suis un fan d'Alizée.

It's an English loan word but it's in common use. ;)

[Edcognito]

Je suis un fan d'Alizée.

It's an English loan word but it's in common use. ;)

Bloody hell, it really shows how much it pays to actually KNOW a language...:o

[paintballpdh19]

Random and off track, but PDH i just have to ask, who is that girl as your avatar? I always wanted to ask just cuz I dunno.

Alizee... :D

[User22]

Alizee... :D

Yah I figured that out after awhile. I figured out that you were in school(i think you are(oh yah you ride the bus so yah haha)), but before that I didn't wan't to say, "Who's that hot chick as your avatar", Cuz I thought it might be your wife haha.

But yah I never saw a close-up of her from that red carpet appearance thingy she did where she looked more perfect thatn ever...:wub::wub::wub:

[paintballpdh19]

Yah I figured that out after awhile. I figured out that you were in school(i think you are(oh yah you ride the bus so yah haha)), but before that I didn't wan't to say, "Who's that hot chick as your avatar", Cuz I thought it might be your wife haha.

But yah I never saw a close-up of her from that red carpet appearance thingy she did where she looked more perfect thatn ever...:wub::wub::wub:

yes she did look amazing:wub:

[Scruffydog777]

There is a Buddhist story about a wounded swan coming from the childhood of Prince Siddhartha (the future Buddha). Siddhartha's cousin shot a swan in flight. It fell where Siddhartha could reach it first, and he took it and nursed it back to health. His cousin insisted that, having shot the swan, it belonged to him. The two boys took the question to the local wise man, who ruled that a life belonged to the one who saved it, not the one who tried to destroy it. In some versions of the story, Siddhartha is said to have gone him one better by releasing the swan to freedom, saying that its life belonged to the bird itself.

Thanks very much for this information Deepwaters, but it still doesn't tell exactly what the story is she's trying to tell here. Does the wounded swan maybe represent New York city after 9/11?

[User22]

hmmm....can't find that pic....was gonna post it but didn't know when it occured. If someone has it can they post it pweez?

[Srbski-kralj]

The song is nice, It throught me off that she sang in French then English then back to French. But the song is similar to Madonas music, well I mean melody wise its similar.

[Scruffydog777]

I'm sorry to double post here. I was thinking a lot about this song while I was showering, getting ready for work. Trying to understand the story because it makes it so much easier for me to remember the lyrics of a song, especially the French lyrics when you can remember the story the song tells.

I remember most of the lyrics of her French songs better than I remember the English ones because in MF's re-writing of the songs, they did not tell a smooth running story. I love the English version of Youpidoo but as many times as I've heard it, parts of it just don't make sense, so I still have trouble remembering the lines.

But what I was thinking is this song makes a lot of sense if you tie it in with 9/11. Running for the hills has always represented running for safety and in this case it was the people of N.Y. city not necessarily running for the hills but fleeing the city. Her bags being empty, well the people who fled certainly didn't have time to pack anything, whether it be personnal possessions from work or condo's or apartments in the area.

In the second melody she mentioned timid big cats. I posted earlier that I thought big cats might represent big shots. Of course big cats would be all these big cats of wall street and the business world, looking pretty timid as they flee the city. As far as wounded swan, that could represent the city itself or maybe the people in it. Just of all who if not wounded physically, were wounded emotionally by seeing the city they loved so much, damaged in this way.


Here's my take on the French bits:

Thanks to Deepwaters for input.
--------------------------------------------
The Hills

Hunted, I've reached the hills,
I've gone underground,
Thrown off the hound-dogs, covered my tracks,
Disguised my flight,
My bags are empty, my heart light,
Light

...

New York, I'm sorry, I loved you so,
But I have to go,
Your neverending windows*, your golden skyline,
I'll do without them,*
Beside the Hesperides, I will go dress
The timid big-cats, the wounded swans,
Wounded
--------------------------------------------

*Shop windows
*Literally: I want to do without them.

prendre le maquis: d'origine corse, signifiant se réfugier dans la forêt pour se soustraire aux autorités ou à une vendetta

[Deepwaters]

Thanks very much for this information Deepwaters, but it still doesn't tell exactly what the story is she's trying to tell here. Does the wounded swan maybe represent New York city after 9/11?

I'm not completely clear on what it does mean, but I'm certain it doesn't mean that.

There is a mythical motif to all of these three images, the Hesperides, the shy big cats, and the wounded swans. For understanding, unravel the mythos, don't look to anything in contemporary history.

Here is something rather interesting on the Hesperides:

http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/HESPERIDES.html

And here's a bit more:

http://www.theoi.com/Titan/Hesperides.html

And one more:

http://www.loggia.com/myth/hesperides.html

I don't think there's likely to be any simple answer.

(I could point out the dragon protecting the Tree of the Golden Apples in the Garden of the Hesperides . . . but I'll refrain. ;) )

[FanDeAliFee]

(I could point out the dragon protecting the Tree of the Golden Apples in the Garden of the Hesperides . . . but I'll refrain. ;) )

As a child I was never aware that there was limited orthodoxy in the stories about the classical Mediterranean Gods (in rough contrast to something like the canonical Bible) with many conflicting details in each theo-biography - even something as basic as parentage.

In researching the Hesperides I ran across several descriptions for the guardian of the apple tree, including "dragon" - which made me laugh because Deepwaters is the only watch-dragon with whom I have ever corresponded. But I went with the version which calls it a "serpent," not the least reason being my interest in comparing it to the Eden story.

I'm not completely clear on what it does mean, but... There is a mythical motif to all of these three images, the Hesperides, the shy big cats, and the wounded swans. For understanding, unravel the mythos, don't look to anything in contemporary history.

I offered a couple of possible explanations <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=151971">here</a>.

I think it is important to remember several things in analyzing the lyrics:

1. WHO - What would an Alizée song be without one or more references to Corsica/wind/her-name/flying? While such need not be part of grand notions, "taking to the maquis" fills that quota here and is central to the song theme as well. The reference to the Hesperides gets you even more western-Med credit.

2. WHEN - The supposed theme of the album is the demise of Edie Sedgwick. That should be the primary focus of attention in ascribing meanings. And this all took place decades ago, back in the day we New Yorkers used the primitive artifacts on display <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151884">here</a>. (By the way, Alizée, I dumped the tokens out of a bucket and they <i>just happened</i> to fall in the pattern photographed... No, really!!! ;) )

3. WHERE - Did you know that Alizée visited New York City with Mylène Farmer at the turn of the century, when she was a "child"? (Sounds like a good name for an album set in New York... hmmmm...) I did not until I recently read the Web page <a href="http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/de/node/666">here</a>. (One can of course question the validity of any such non-official source - but then adding any new myth to the bag of them, consistent or not, about a Goddess is always FUN - as the Mediterranean ancients found, cf. above.)

Assuming this is true, it suggests a personal reason for getting into the whole Sedgwick thing, starting with <i>Psychédélices</i>, beyond the recent noted film <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_Girl"><i>Factory Girl</i></a>. It's also interesting that the cited article quotes a <i>San Francisco Chronicle</i> review of the film this way: <i>This is a movie about power, and its spectacle is that of a woman losing all of it.</i> Can you think of any haunting vague parallel with the career of say, some singer?

4. HOW - Songs, like poems, can have several layers of meaning. The part of the lyrics which actually read "des cygnes blessés / blessés" were heard by at least one person here as up to three similar words in sequence, <i>viz.</i> "paisibles, plaisirs / bléssés" This could well be intended. As poor as my French is, even *I* will reach for a pun to get a cheap laugh, as in the footnote <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=152308">here</a>.

The repetitive and very emotional musical chanting of <i>Never wanna leave you</i> (with variations) almost sounds like it was written not <i>only</i> by a lyricist concerned with Sedgwick - but <i>also</i> by a publicity agent concerned with Alizée! That particular meaning certainly got through to multiple respondents to a posting of the song at YouTube, who wrote that they never wanted to leave Alizée, either! This also seems to fit with an <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151721">impression</a> I got about <i>Limelight</i></a>.

As to the repetition being excessive, I disagree. The purpose of a song is to communicate feeling before fact. Moreover, I am guilty of <a href="http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/2009May.htm">encouraging</a> my favorite singer to undertake performing a song in which a repeated phrase becomes an overwhelmingly emotional climax!

5. WHY - I will not continue to beat up on the lyrics of early Alizée songs written in French and then translated into English, except to note that in this cruel world, speed is sometimes more important than quality. A songwriter has to accomplish several things at once and sometimes sophistication of the lyrics has to give ground to other factors in some portion of the song.

[Deepwaters]

Here are some links to big cats as they occur in various mythologies.

Snow lion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Lion

Jaguar in Mesoamerican culture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguars_in_Mesoamerican_culture

[FanDeAliFee]

Let me remind you what <i>Wikipedia</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesperides">writes</a> about the <i>Hesperides</i>, referenced in this song, <i>Les Collines</i>.

<i>In Greek mythology, the Hesperides are nymphs who tend a blissful garden in a far western corner of the world... Ordinarily the Hesperides number three... The Garden of the Hesperides is Hera's orchard in the west...</i>

Hercules was given the labor of plucking three fruit from this garden, despite the awesome ever-vigilant serpent there, which guarded it against such outrages.

The book titled <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5D84AAAAYAAJ&d"><i>Hesperides</i></a> is a collection of verse published in the middle of the 17th century by Robert Herrick. Despite its great age, it remains a topic of protracted contemporary literary discourse, as witnessed by an article like <a href="http://reocities.com/Athens/acropolis/6586/swann.html"><i>Marriage, celibacy, and ritual in Robert Herrick's 'Hesperides'</i></a>.

Allegedly, this book acquired its title because the author hailed from the far western end of Britain, in analogy to the Garden of the Hesperides, which was situated at the far western end of the Mediterranean Sea. But thanks to Google Books, it was also easy to search for any appearances of "Hesperides" within the text itself, to investigate whether some other reason might justify the title. The word indeed appears, but within a single poem alone, the following:

<blockquote>To Virgins

Hear, ye Virgins, and I'll teach
What the times of old did preach.
Rosamond was in a bower
Kept, as Danae in a tower;
But yet Love, who subtile is,
Crept to that, and came to this.
Be ye locked up like to these,
Or the rich Hesperides:
Or those babies in your eyes,
In their crystal nunneries;
Notwithstanding, love will win,
Or else force a passage in;
And as coy be as you can,
Gifts will get ye, or the man.
</blockquote>
Fearing you might get a slanted impression about the book, I endeavored to add another poem for more scope... but it turned out to be this one:
<blockquote>Cherry Ripe

Cherry ripe, ripe, ripe, I cry,
Full and fair ones, come and buy;
If so be you ask me where
They do grow ? I answer, there,
Where my Julia's lips do smile
There's the land or cherry isle,
Whose plantations fully show
All the year where cherries grow.
</blockquote>

Gosh - I didn't know they could smile, too!

All this made me reconsider my pale first reading of the Greek myth. And so, to make amends to you, dear Reader, I undertook the penance of crafting some exculpatory verse. For some strange reason, I found the form of the limerick uniquely fitting! Here then, my brief offering:
<blockquote>Plucking All Three

Young Hercules, bearing a pair of these,
Struck out for a garden, Hes-per-i-des;
Each nymph lost a fruit,
To the impassioned brute,
Much wiser at last, by the despair of these!</blockquote>
There! I feel much better. Don't you? ;)

[Chuck]

Dr. T.V., no disrespect intended, but if you don't count the repetitive refrains, there are only 72 words in this whole song. You've now hit 72,000. :eek:

References to Greek mythos notwithstanding, I still see this song as rather airy and fluffy. Is it maybe just slightly possible that you're overanalyzing? :confused:

Either that, or you're staging a filibuster.. you tell me. :blink:

[FanDeAliFee]

Dr. T.V., no disrespect intended, but if you don't count the repetitive refrains, there are only 72 words in this whole song. You've now hit 72,000. :eek:

Thank you for your interest and courteous inquiry.

1. Instrumental pieces have ZERO words and yet they can be great MUSIC. (And yes, I LOVE IT when Alizée sings "nah-nah-nah-nah-nah" in JPVA.)

2. "Brevity is the soul of wit." (Hmm... what does that make me? ;o) ) There are probably fewer symbols in Maxwell's four equations and the Lorentz force law than in "Les Collines" and yet the former explains all of classical electrodynamics. By the way, when teaching electrodynamics I've surely used something like 72,000 words over the semester. I guess I could instead simply let the students figure out the import of the five basic equations on their own. But that would make collecting tuition too hard!


References to Greek mythos notwithstanding, I still see this song as rather airy and fluffy. Is it maybe just slightly possible that you're overanalyzing? :confused:

Either that, or you're staging a filibuster.. you tell me. :blink:

Again I say song is an art intended to engender FEELING, NOT disclose FACT. Partly it does that through melody and rhythm, and partly through the RICH AMBIGUITIES AND CONNOTATIONS of the precious few words it does use.

Re: your posting topic phrase - I explicitly wrote Joe Jacotey that if his daughter read the "pre-Mintel directory" I would listen to her do so. I really did, LOL. I'm beginning to suspect you are not really a member of <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4831">The Cult</a>...
<hr>
Postscript: I loved Alizée's energetic performances in <i>En Concert</i>. This recently reminded me of another artist I enjoy, Sevara Nazarkhan, and her wonderful version of <i>Yalla jonim</i>. It has even FAR fewer unique words than does <i>Les Collines</i>!

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[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

your posting topic phrase - I explicitly wrote Joe Jacotey that if his daughter read the "pre-Mintel directory" I would listen to her do so. I really did, LOL.

Umm...OK...Because that isn't the least bit creepy in any way what so ever :rolleyes:. It's no wonder why she runs from her fans.

Regards,

Jung

[Scruffydog777]

I hope it's okay to quote yourself but I still think this song might be about 9/11. I was just reading about swans and when they mate, they seperate from the flock and become very territorial. How often have you seen swans on a pond or a lake in pairs? Swans stand out from the other birds you usually see there by their size, their grace and their beauty as did the WTC towers stand out from and grace the New York skyline.


But what I was thinking is this song makes a lot of sense if you tie it in with 9/11. Running for the hills has always represented running for safety and in this case it was the people of N.Y. city not necessarily running for the hills but fleeing the city. Her bags being empty, well the people who fled certainly didn't have time to pack anything, whether it be personnal possessions from work or condo's or apartments in the area.

In the second melody she mentioned timid big cats. I posted earlier that I thought big cats might represent big shots. Of course big cats would be all these big cats of wall street and the business world, looking pretty timid as they flee the city. As far as wounded swan, that could represent the city itself or maybe the people in it. Just of all who if not wounded physically, were wounded emotionally by seeing the city they loved so much, damaged in this way.

[Deepwaters]

The photo shoot yesterday gave us one clue. This album isn't just about Edie Sedgwick after all, it's about the entire 20th century, hence the title. There may also be overtones about Sedgwick, and of course it will all come back to Alizée, reverberations of different parts of the century to her own life and personality.

(The 9/11 attack occurred in the 21st century, Scruffy. Sorry, don't think so.)

[Scruffydog777]

(The 9/11 attack occurred in the 21st century, Scruffy. Sorry, don't think so.)

That's a good point.

[Hylas1896]

I think Les collines makes more sense if you look at it from a French perspective. The chorus is in English, and so from the French language perspective, the chorus is practically vocal-instrumental rather than lyrical.

There is a word for this, which I can't remember. It would be an interesting experiment to replace the chorus with the equivalent in piano, or etc... and see how it comes across...


Hylas1896

[ALS]

Re: your posting topic phrase - I explicitly wrote Joe Jacotey that if his daughter read the "pre-Mintel directory" I would listen to her do so. I really did, LOL. I'm beginning to suspect you are not really a member of The Cult...

I have to agree with Jung on this one. No wonder the women moved her family into a gated community. :rolleyes:

[Fenris]

I have to agree with Jung on this one. No wonder the women moved her family into a gated community. :rolleyes:

Yup. Being a fan is all nice and dandy, but one should stay away from her or her family.
Going to concerts and autograph sessions or supporting her wherever you reasonably can do so is all ok, but somewhere you have to draw a line.

[User22]

indeed you do....man who would go stalk her family, that is just sick and creepy, and very unecessary, especially when the star is Alizée:rolleyes:

[Deepwaters]

Well, what docdtv said he did isn't as bad as all that, even if he actually did it, which we can't be certain of. (This is a person with a very strange sense of humor, I've observed. ;)) Normally I would say that a person's family should be totally left alone, but the fact is Joseph Jacotey is himself a somewhat public figure, with his photography on display on the Internet, and he is also very proud of his daughter. So having someone write him via his public channels (which are there for that purpose) and express praise of Alizée does not constitute stalking. I've written to him myself, not about Alizée but about his photography and about Corsica, and he wrote back. (I wrote in French, he replied in English, which was kind of interesting.) Saying that fans of Alizée shouldn't communicate with her father is in this case almost like saying that fans of Angelina Jolie shouldn't communicate with her SO.

Of course, it's very possible to overdo it, and definitely nobody should try to use Jo as a channel to communicate with Alizée herself. But it doesn't sound like that's what docdtv did.

[User22]

ORION---The start of the track is mesmerizing. . .it starts silently creeping up to your senses, and then it takes off with a strong beautiful beat. The track also has English and French lyrics . . . . what does that mean!? Hold on a sec! Because I also want to mention the fact that it is the kind of track that can EASILY be picked up in clubs!!! Remember ML!?!?! Now let's go back to the French and English lyrics thingy . . .

Pairing ^that with the sound and the catchy lyrics, and her soft voice that is seemingly picked up by the beat and becomes one, it has all the potential to be picked up in Mexico Italy, Belgium and France, the U.S and even Canada!!! THIS track is THE best thing they could've done to promote not only a new album, but a new Alizée and a new sound.

It's perfect! Well, yes there are some minor problems with the song, but that's up for bloggers and technical mags to go over . . . because as far as the public will be concerned, it will be good enough for her to make a name for herself again. One can only wonder at the rest of the . . . er . . . wonders that make up the rest of the album's tracks we have yet to listen to.

You must also understand, that for people that have forgotten about Alizée during the 4yr break, after MCE and the years over Psychédélices, THEY will have the most say in all this . . . and THEY will be the ones to bring Lili back from obscurity. They will immediately be interested in her due to the new grown-up sounds, and they will also be the ones that will spread interest tothe rest of the masses, as they play her music and it gets played on teh radio more and more.

You can ABSOLUTELY BET on it that it will get HEAVY radio time.

Mark these words folks!

Yah I was snooping around the AF for a bit...and this is what I was looking for, someone to say that this song will get played over and over....Can't wait for the album and hearing it on the radio. Oh wait, I'm in the US, nevermind then:rolleyes:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/entry.php?12-Here-s-WHY-Collines-(Never-Leave-You)-will-be-a-HIT.-.-.-.

[clique]

It's kind of Orion's schtick to get super excited whenever Alizée releases something new, and predict that it will be the most awesome thing ever and that everyone will love it. I seem to recall him doing the exact same thing when Psych was released.

[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

Yah I was snooping around the AF for a bit...and this is what I was looking for, someone to say that this song will get played over and over....Can't wait for the album and hearing it on the radio. Oh wait, I'm in the US, nevermind then:rolleyes:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/entry.php?12-Here-s-WHY-Collines-(Never-Leave-You)-will-be-a-HIT.-.-.-.

OMG OMG Orion said it so it has to be true:rolleyes:. He says the same things over and over again about everything that comes out.

Regards,

Jung

[FanDeAliFee]

Well, what docdtv said he did isn't as bad as all that, even if... but the fact is Joseph Jacotey is himself a somewhat public figure, with his photography on display on the Internet, and he is also very proud of his daughter. So having someone write him via his public channels (which are there for that purpose) and express praise of Alizée does not constitute stalking...

Thank you Deep for the rationalization, but these guys were just chain-pulling. You can read what we all think about celebrity privacy in an extended discussion we had last year <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5177">here</a>.

For readers who aren't interested in slogging through it, let me offer the following. I've met famous people in a professional context and won't discuss that. But having lived in large cities like metro New York and Boston over long periods, I've also bumped into famous folks by accident, going about their business as we all do for the sake of necessity and pleasure. My practice has been to abstain from acknowledging them out of sympathetic pity for their situation.

As for The Daddyzée, I responded to his solicitation concerning his daughter. I would not have molested him in other contexts, save if I was interested in something he was selling or otherwise promoting, or in making such a solicitation of him myself.

Alizée's parents decided long ago to do publicity to assist their daughter, starting with the AOM contest. Her father also did a video interview for GdS. Everyone would like to eat his cake and have it too, so one imagines Alizée and her family all would prefer to have the ability to turn public attention on and off at will for their benefit and convenience. But they strike me as too sensible to ever imagine that's possible!

A lot of things which were always public were only inconveniently accessible to any but the rich, powerful or highly motivated before the rise of the Internet. We've all met ordinary people who are disturbed at how transparent so much of their public life has become because of the digital revolution. They would not have been comforted by the famous frank <a href="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538">remarks</a> of then-Sun CEO Scott McNealy a decade ago: <i>You have zero privacy anyway... get over it.</i>

The absence of personal authentication in most non-commercial Internet communications certainly provides for "plausible deniability" of attributed remarks, even absent the use of pseudonyms used with clandestine intent. (Aside: I use digital signatures and encryption for exchanging important e-mail.) For that matter, I still cannot say for sure if there is one or many persons who look like the woman identified as Alizée. In not too many years I might question whether a "public" person like that ever exists, except synthetically (http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_debevec_animates_a_photo_real_digital_face.ht ml). Maybe that's why strangers want to touch her hand even now!

[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

but these guys were just chain-pulling.

Chain pulling...I think not. It's not that you messaged him, it's more what you said. It's just very creepy, just imagine someone sending you a message saying something similar about your daughter.

Regards,

Jung

[User22]

OMG OMG Orion said it so it has to be true:rolleyes:. He says the same things over and over again about everything that comes out.

Regards,

Jung

hahaha....ahh well I was just saying how it was somebody that I can agree with. Cuz well....it is pretty true.

[Deepwaters]

Re the thing docdtv said he said to M. Jacotey, it would be necessary to know the context of the conversation. As I said, the doc has a weird sense of humor. It's obvious to me that the words were a form of humorous self-deprecating exaggeration, and not a literal statement of truth. If that was also obvious to Jo, no harm.

[Chuck]

We're wayyyyyyy off topic now, but I'm more inclined to agree with Jung here, Deep. For every lovely celeb out there, there are fans, and among those fans, there are always a few fans that go too far. Every year, we hear several cases about an actor, actress, musician, or whatever whose life was made into a living hell by a "devoted fan".

Some of those fans think they "love" their chosen celebs. And some start to think the celebs owe them something in return. Some start sending flowers, then hang out in a parked car across from the celeb's house. Some go and knock on the celeb's door. All of these activities (and more) are PERFECTLY LEGAL. And yet, all these activities probably only remind the targeted celebs what "devoted fans" did to John Lennon and George Harrison.

So there's a definite line between things legal and illegal. But, much closer, there's the invisible line between "creepy" and "non-creepy". Between the threatening and the non-threatening. That's where one has to be careful, because what really matters is where the celeb perceives that line to be, not the devoted fan's idea of it. Especially since some devoted fans (e.g. Mark David Chapman) may not be exactly right in the head.

Ben, Brad, Lefty, Ruro, and other wise leaders of this forum have always encouraged a maximum amount of respect for our favorite celeb. To stay a safe distance back from the "invisible line". I think that's the best policy. We don't want to make Lilly feel uncomfortable. In other words, if someone is unsure, they're probably too close. If "creepy" or "non-creepy" needs to be debated, that's too close, too.

[Deepwaters]

We're wayyyyyyy off topic now, but I'm more inclined to agree with Jung here, Deep. For every lovely celeb out there, there are fans, and among those fans, there are always a few fans that go too far. Every year, we hear several cases about an actor, actress, musician, or whatever whose life was made into a living hell by a "devoted fan".


I don't disagree with THAT. I simply disagree that this describes what docdtv was doing in his conversation with Jo Jacotey. (If I understand it correctly.) He was not trying to send messages to Alizée via her father. He was not trying to contact someone who preferred to stay private. The message he referenced was not something sent out of the blue, but was part of an ongoing conversation. There is nothing wrong with this.

You are quite correct in your description of the offense. You are incorrect, however, in thinking that that description also fits the behavior under discussion here.

Edit: It's not entirely off-topic, since we're now discussing things that could cause Her Grace to flee for les collines. ;)

[lefty12357]

http://www.nidalizee.com/ has reported that the promo pack for the new single has been sent out to the media today. If you go to their site you will see photos of the promo pack and its contents, including sort of a history or bio of Alizée written by Jean René Etienne.

Edit: Added pics...

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[Fenris]

Doctv, Deep, i think you two are both sensible enough to do the right thing here and not overdo it, but many others are not, and one is always walking a thin line when it comes to contacting Alizée or PapaJoe.
I myself would never do it, because i have no business in their personal lives, and i'm content to watch from afar what's going on.

[Deepwaters]

Doctv, Deep, i think you two are both sensible enough to do the right thing here and not overdo it, but many others are not, and one is always walking a thin line when it comes to contacting Alizée or PapaJoe.
I myself would never do it, because i have no business in their personal lives, and i'm content to watch from afar what's going on.

I do try to err on the side of caution. I wouldn't have contacted Jo about Alizée, although I'm pretty sure he knew I was a fan. I contacted him via MySpace because there were problems with his web site and I wanted to see more of his photos of Corsica. He's a really good photographer and I have this obsession with the island where he lives. (Which may be part of the reason for my sense of connection with Alizée herself, although then again it may not and it certainly isn't the whole reason.)

A special problem comes in if you have a personal friendship with someone who knows a celebrity. Not only do you have to try to avoid the appearance of stalking, but you also need to make sure your friend doesn't get the idea you're only interested in him/her as a way to contact the celeb. It's something you always have to be conscious of.

All I was really saying is that I don't feel docdtv stepped over the line. I certainly wasn't saying that no line exists.

Lefty, that's good news. I have a real feeling about this song. I think it's going to be a big hit. It may even be what breaks Alizée into the U.S. music market (and then she'll have to wear dark glasses when visiting New York). :blink: :D

[FanDeAliFee]

Chain pulling...I think not. It's not that you messaged him, it's more what you said. It's just very creepy, just imagine someone sending you a message saying something similar about your daughter.


I'd be touched and flattered in Daddyzée's place!
Different strokes, Jung. And I have news for you:
You're not the arbiter of good taste in the world.
Conversation over.

[Deepwaters]

WOW!!!!

Lefty, thanks so much for posting those pics. Everyone who can, read those three pages. There are wonderful hints in there about this album and what it's trying to say.

If no one else does, I'll post a translation this weekend. All I'll say now is: Don't anyone ever again suggest that Alizée is anyone's puppet. :)

[Topaz]

Having an offbeat sense of humor is one thing. I'm all for that. Mr Jacotey actually expects this from time to time. However, After reading this thread, this is what I see as creepy about this entire situation.

I'm beginning to suspect you are not really a member of The Cult...

And then there is this.

Different strokes, Jung. And I have news for you:
You're not the arbiter of good taste in the world.
Conversation over.

A psychologist would have a field day with this last statement. Don't bother to answer docdtv. It would only dig the hole deeper. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's my two cents and you don't get change.

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To get back on track here:

Very nice Lefty. Media kits are out and the journey is about to begin. :)

I do agree with docdtv, the amount of words in track doesn't matter as to how good the track it. It is what it is.

[User22]

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Awesome....

[paintballpdh19]

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If no one else does, I'll post a translation this weekend.

that would be great!!

[Orion]

It's kind of Orion's schtick to get super excited whenever Alizée releases something new, and predict that it will be the most awesome thing ever and that everyone will love it. I seem to recall him doing the exact same thing when Psych was released.

well, the last time, for Psych, I said, BEFORE THE ALBUM CAME OUT that what Alizée MUST do is make sure that her FIRST single IS the best one on her album. I was VERY disappointed about MJ being that single!!! I explained WHY, and I explained WHAT was wrong with the vocals AND with the video. HEll I even told everybody that it will be "Vogue" Africanish dancing even before we got to see that part.

So, knowing that^ MAYBE some people WILl finally start to understand me more, since I will be here to put things straight whenever someone ahs a question about be or my character.

BTW I know this is OT, but PLEASE let me have this post for now.

I DO get excited when Lili releases new material, I get all positive to keep the fans in that mood too. WHY? Becasue I have seen first hand what happens when suddenly people spread negative feelings towards the album before it even comes out. I just try to do my part and be positive. AND what I said in that quote IS true though: the english? French lyrics ARE INDEED a good thing for her first single for the sole purpose of getting picked up in places of Europe and Abroad WHERE English music overpowers the local scene!!! Also, like I said, it will be a good track to possibly get spread in clubs etc. YES! That is being positive . . it is my "schtick" right!? Werll I don;t just say it for the hell of it, there is also SOME legitimacy in my "schtick."

BTW, I waill say here what I have been saying over at AF for ages now:

AAm forever___ AF forever___ the fans forever!!

I am NOT crazy, I am not mean, I try to be always fair, even knowing that sometimes w3hat I do as mod/admin may not be popular, but the record is there to speak for itself folks.

I care about people, I don't hate anyone. I care about the fans. I have told Alizée how much she is LUCKY to have fans like YOU guys! I actually DID THAT.I mentioned this forum My forum and the French forums. My liking you or not ahs nothing to do with pitting forums against each other. ALL Lili forums are a community of the greatest kind. We are special fans.

If there is ever a problem, we need to talk and get things straight instead of going apeshit ;)

anyway, for this new album, I say we wait until we have heard everything . . . and TRY to be positive for now as best some of us can haha


Thanks for hearing me out guys. I hope that my stay here does not disrupt too much. If it does, I will stay away.

Pace e salut!

edit:

OMG OMG Orion said it so it has to be true:rolleyes:. He says the same things over and over again about everything that comes out.

. . . yeah apperantly :rolleyes:

Nice constructive post, btw . . never missing a beat!

anyway, peace just the same. I'm tired.

About the same or slightly slower. The song writer definitely needs a larger vocabulary when it comes to the lyrics.

Why my comment about larger vocabulary. Definitely the chorus was put in to kill some time in the song.

3:44 in length.

85 seconds Lyrics

87 seconds for the chorus

First chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Second chorus
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.

Third chorus

Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never ever want to leave you.
Never want to leave you.
Never want to leave you

Time killer and space filler.

52 seconds music

haha great post!

Well I as saying the same over at AF . . . I mentioned HOW hard it would be to instead select some nice poetic lyrics there to go with the soft beat instead of "never want to leave you" SO many damn times. ( also part of my "schtick," btw . . to critique where it is needed)

I mentioned how sometimes, asking FANS would produce a better song for her. It's true though: what you just said is true . . WHY not put more lyrics there. HOW hard can it be to input some cool lyrics or atleast SOMETHING vocally stimulating other than the repetitive lyrics we have. . . . .

What else can we do though. This song has SO MUCH potential, but it was missing that one thing in the middle. ( btw, I hope I am a bit more clear now to those that think I "schtick" to extreme blind positiveness ;) I say what needs to be said, as I hope you guys do to.

I have been with Lili since 2000 . . I am still here, and it's not because I am "crazy." I can still critique ;)

[Deepwaters]

I wonder if the songwriters she's using for this album are familiar with Middle Eastern or Indian music. Those tend to use repetition more than western music normally does.

[djwise]

I wonder if the songwriters she's using for this album are familiar with Middle Eastern or Indian music. Those tend to use repetition more than western music normally does.

Hmm, interesting observation. Do we know who the writers are, as of yet?? That'd definitely be something interesting to look into. It'll give me more of a reason to research Middle Eastern music!! :D

[Chuck]

well, the last time, for Psych, I said, BEFORE THE ALBUM CAME OUT that what Alizée MUST do is make sure that her FIRST single IS the best one on her album. I was VERY disappointed about MJ being that single!!! I explained WHY, and I explained WHAT was wrong with the vocals AND with the video. HEll I even told everybody that it will be "Vogue" Africanish dancing even before we got to see that part.

BTW I know this is OT, but PLEASE let me have this post for now.


Welcome to AAm, Orion ! Personally, I can deal with a really long post, occasionally, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BORING!

You mention disappointment in MJ's having been chosen as the first single from Psych. To tell you the truth, I have a tiny bit of similar doubts about this song - "Les Collines". A beautiful voice, yes! A danceable rhythm, yes. Half (or more) of the lyrics in English - great! But also: dark and sad-sounding, yes? Repetitive and a bit monotonous, yes? In most of these aspects, similar to MJ, yes?

Therefore, I'm excited about the new album, new material, new style, new image - all of it! And excited about Alizée's newest chance at renewed success, in France and maybe even chez nous, too! However, I am also strongly hoping that there will be other songs on the CD that I will enjoy even more... Fun stuff, like "Décollage", "Fifty Sixty" or "Lillytown", 'artistic' stuff like "Psychédélices", and (or) beautiful, ethereal songs like "Paupières". If the whole album is going to sound depressing, I suspect the sales might be too. It would be an uphill battle.

(To my fellow members who are not Orion - I never said any of that ^! ;) )

Anyway, we're very glad you are here, even as your reputation precedes you.

[Scruffydog777]

[QUOTE=Orion;152730]


Thanks for hearing me out guys. I hope that my stay here does not disrupt too much. If it does, I will stay away.

QUOTE]

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Orion as I do Ben and all they do to keep these forums going. We need opinions, good, bad or indifferent. As you two probably know, I've been one of her biggest critics in the past and if I need to be critical again, in a way that I think will be constructive, I wont hesitate to do so. So all opinions should be heard and hopefully an average will form from what we'll get a true picture of what's going on. I've posted on your site numerous times Orion and I hope you visit here and offer your opinions often.

[Orion]

Welcome to AAm, Orion ! Personally, I can deal with a really long post, occasionally, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BORING!

haha, well I will try my best to keep things interesting, Chuck . . . . no doubt there will be LOTS of beef ;)

You mention disappointment in MJ's having been chosen as the first single from Psych. To tell you the truth, I have a tiny bit of similar doubts about this song - "Les Collines". A beautiful voice, yes! A danceable rhythm, yes. Half (or more) of the lyrics in English - great! But also: dark and sad-sounding, yes? Repetitive and a bit monotonous, yes? In most of these aspects, similar to MJ, yes?

Yes, certainly a lot of things I hated about MJ and hated for it being chosen as the 1st single. My response on AF was more lengthy and detailed, but to summarize briefly . . . . I spoke about the vocal style being too "choppy" and about the ways in which the video did everything to remind everybody of Mylène Farmer's Style . . the whole video was a bit too obvious on many levels in my opinion . . . . pretentious even.

What's good about Les Collines, though, is that I do not see anything "Mylène" and it is completely new style for her. The reason why I mention Mylène is that they broke up and Alizée wanted to do things her own way, BUT the first thing she releases does everything to remind us of Mylène. . . not a bad thing, but in her case it IS a bad thing ;) I won;t go into mroe detail;ed explanation here though . . . Les Collines is truly different and has a chance to spark some interest . . . maybe not in all circles.

It was also about FS which should've been the first single OR even PLP. AS far as FS goes, it had a style of wardrobe and video . . it immediately reminded us of all the images she released prior to the first single, and it reminded us of the album cover. It had potential for great marketing and to put together a 50s 60s clothing line for fans etc . . . but that's another story. Before the FS video was released, I mentioned how she needed a FUn video and even wacky! . . off the wall fun. Was I right, or was I wrong ;) I was tired of all the lolipop dance choreography.

AS for PLP, even before hearing the album I asked if there would be a song on the album that was like a ballad . . . something that would bring her closer to the fans like AMD. A song with a story and a soft voice . . with beautiful sound. That was PLP. A REAL shame it wasn't amoung the first singles . . at least 2nd.

Therefore, I'm excited about the new album, new material, new style, new image - all of it! And excited about Alizée's newest chance at renewed success, in France and maybe even chez nous, too! However, I am also strongly hoping that there will be other songs on the CD that I will enjoy even more... Fun stuff, like "Décollage" or "Lillytown", 'artistic' stuff like "Psychédélices", and (or) beautiful stuff like "Paupières". If the whole album is going to sound depressing, I suspect the sales might be too. It would be an uphill battle.

Well lets not forget that there will be some fun songs on this album . . . I would venture to suggest that the Spanish track(s) would be a fast one or a slow beautiful version . . either way, something like "La Isla Bonita" type ;) would be MOST beneficial in Mexico, in Spain, and in general too! Let's hope!

Anyway, we're very glad you are here, even as your reputation precedes you.

haha well thank you kind sir, I feel welcome. Although me reputation on AF is very good, to say the least, since 2003, I will do my best to make things on a par here.

This is a great forum too, and you guys should be proud. And although my heart is with AF, my heart of hearts is with the fans and Alizée, wherever they may be.

BTW . . sorry for going long winded again . . I hate my post because I cannot go into details here or it will be toooo OT.

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Thanks for hearing me out guys. I hope that my stay here does not disrupt too much. If it does, I will stay away.



I have a tremendous amount of respect for Orion as I do Ben and all they do to keep these forums going. We need opinions, good, bad or indifferent. As you two probably know, I've been one of her biggest critics in the past and if I need to be critical again, in a way that I think will be constructive, I wont hesitate to do so. So all opinions should be heard and hopefully an average will form from what we'll get a true picture of what's going on. I've posted on your site numerous times Orion and I hope you visit here and offer your opinions often.

Thank you so much for the kind words, dawg! All we should do is show more respect, PM or ask for info to clarify things when we find ourselvs arguing. For any of those that hate me or believe they hate me hahaha well get to know me a bit, if you haven' t spoken to me or know nothing about me. Yes to the fake YOuTube account they made in my honor to the endless hate mongering I am not simply still here, but I have been since 2000 and since 2003 on AF. Peace to all here, even my "enemies." And lets be honest, if I had true " enemies" here, I would be a VERY bad person to meet in a dark alley . . . but there are no such enemies here I would care to be evil to. I am nice by nature, and evil by necessity har har ;)

P.S> I promise that my posts will not be this long in the future

[Scruffydog777]

I have an idea of what could be a very good video for this song, but I'm sure Alizée will come out with one and I certainly don't want to steal any of her thunder, so it will have to wait til some time after.

[Orion]

ooooh that makes 2 of us!!

I could be of a girls running through city streets at night looking around corners, lit by the moonlight, and then add in some fade in/out fantasy type scenery. . . That's just one version . . . I know I know . . but it looks better on video than on " paper" haha

[Criss_pl]

Welcome Orion. I've seen much longer posts here, so don't bother writing much, cause it's the best way to present fully and precisely your opinion. Btw.You have good points as always:)

[pepelepew]

Welcome Orion. Longtime devoted fans such as yourself is a great asset to Alizee fan sites. Keeping a balanced perspective and keeping an overall positive tone when critiquing Alizee can sometimes be difficult ,but I think necessary for the longevity of a fan site. It would be fun to hang out with you and Ben and the like hearing your experiences especially about Alizee that are obviously impossible to relate on a forum in detail. I lurk on AF and enjoy many posts there also. I agree that we are just one family when it comes to Alizee fandom.:)

[Scruffydog777]

It's so great to see so much traffic in the forums now. Parts of last year were so slow. I hope it continues for a long time to come.

[Fenris]

Hmm, interesting observation. Do we know who the writers are, as of yet?? That'd definitely be something interesting to look into. It'll give me more of a reason to research Middle Eastern music!! :D

Well, the "Roman" coming with the promo mentions

"Rebecca Slotowski à réalisé le clip de morceau Fifty Sixty (David Rubato Version) et vient d'achever son premier long métrage, Belle Epine. Scénariste de cinema, elle écrit ice ses prèmier paroles."

So this woman seems to be behind the songtexts...but no info about if she wrote all the text or only for a few songs.

Noooo Orion...seems we are nowhere safe from you! :D
Just kiddin', nice to see some more interaction between the two forums!

[djwise]

Well, the "Roman" coming with the promo mentions

"Rebecca Slotowski à réalisé le clip de morceau Fifty Sixty (David Rubato Version) et vient d'achever son premier long métrage, Belle Epine. Scénariste de cinema, elle écrit ice ses prèmier paroles."

So this woman seems to be behind the songtexts...but no info about if she wrote all the text or only for a few songs.

Ahh, okay. Well, it's a start! :)

[Criss_pl]

So, I read that biography, and there's nothing surprising that we wouldn't know yet. She does what she wants, she decided to make something new etc. Ah, I would forgot about two-word description of few songs:) Overall, nicely done summing up her career so far, short, but quite interesting to read.


Name Zlotowski sounds so familiar to me:)

[Orion]

Thank you so much guys . . . I am honored, to say the least.

Now, about Collines, I worry about the impact ( if any) releasing it so soon prior to the single release (radio/CD) this might have. Imagine all the excitement of FINALLY getting to hear a new single from her, YET when the actual CD comes out or it begins to play on the radio officially, we have already gone through the emotions, and motions, and we lose something.

And that's just from our side, but I wonder what it means for the general public that has its anticipations also dampened from listening to the song weeks before an official release, for instance. I am not sure, but it is something I was never excited about. . . . they essentially kill the excitement that should be there when we all hear it for the first time on radio or tv . . . and so it is maybe for the general public too. I hope I am making some sense to you guys here.

I just wonder about the effects . . . and probably there are none, but I can't let it go.

[Deepwaters]

Old media vs. new media.

My take is that she doesn't expect the single to make money. She's releasing it first on new media (Internet/YouTube) and tossing it out there on old media (radio, CD) afterwards. The new media release IS the release, so we've gone through those emotions AT the release, not BEFORE the release. In both cases, it's all for promotion.

Somewhere down the road, we will reach a point where the primary SALES of a song will be digital downloads, which are so much more convenient than CDs. Make a song easily available worldwide for a low price (like 1 Euro) and it will sell, because when you can buy the song with one easy click and spend pocket change for it, most people won't muck around with pirating it.

As things are, I could easily go pirate Les Collines now, but could not easily buy it. I won't, 'cause it's Alizée and because I plan to buy the album anyway and rip it from that, but I can easily understand why someone less devoted to an artist would avoid the expense and hassle and wait by pirating -- unless they could download the music legitimately, song by song, for a reasonable price.

The digital/Internet revolution doesn't have to mean bad things for artists. The problem is that record companies have been very stupid, and (as I know from sad experience) publishers look like doing the same sort of dumb-ass things.

In the future, I anticipate that we will have digital downloads of music, and we will also have deluxe vinyl editions, but the CD as we have known it will pretty much disappear. Songs will first be released for promotion on new media which will increasingly displace traditional radio broadcasts. Alizée seems to be taking advantage of part of that transformation.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Thank you so much guys . . . I am honored, to say the least.

Now, about Collines, I worry about the impact ( if any) releasing it so soon prior to the single release (radio/CD) this might have. Imagine all the excitement of FINALLY getting to hear a new single from her, YET when the actual CD comes out or it begins to play on the radio officially, we have already gone through the emotions, and motions, and we lose something.

And that's just from our side, but I wonder what it means for the general public that has its anticipations also dampened from listening to the song weeks before an official release, for instance. I am not sure, but it is something I was never excited about. . . . they essentially kill the excitement that should be there when we all hear it for the first time on radio or tv . . . and so it is maybe for the general public too. I hope I am making some sense to you guys here.

I just wonder about the effects . . . and probably there are none, but I can't let it go.

Actually, that makes tons of sense. Well, outside of USA it does. Problem is, here, the only way it matters which songs are singles and which aren't only effects us in one way: it tells us which songs we may see an MV of. If not for MV's, I couldn't have told you which songs were and were not singles, really. We never get her on radio, and can only watch TV broadcasts from other countries to see her there. France, Mexico, Japan, anywhere she is played on the radio, that is a very valid point. But from USA (the most pompous country ON EARTH), we never GET to worry about this.

[lefty12357]

Welcome Orion ! It’s nice to see you posting here. :) I also agree that FS would have been a better first single, and I think PLP may be the best song on Psych. I also think Lillytown was a very upbeat and likable song. It’s too bad PLP never made it to being a single.

In regards to the new album, I really like the 2 songs I’ve heard so far. But I have already commented before that neither one seems like a single to me. Either way, I support Alizée and I’m hoping people will really like Les Collines. I’m looking forward to hearing the whole album. This may be an album that stands better as a complete work, and the songs may work best when heard in the context of the whole album. Concept albums tend to be that way, and some of my favorite albums fall in that category. If nothing else, I want Alizée to get the respect she deserves, even if she doesn't make a ton of money on this one.

[FanDeAliFee]

I am posting this for the benefit of future thread readers, and to <i>obviate</i> further overt discussions here of <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4831"><i>The Alizée World Wide Cult</i></a>, which is surely <i>irrelevant</i> to this thread. The Cult was a lively Community of Believers given a home here long before I joined AAm three months ago, and those who want either to explore or join it are directed to the hyperlink just provided.

It seems I elicited great obsessive distress by recently <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=152349">challenging</a> one of its most backward and brutal practices, namely <i>ritual vegetable sacrifice</i>! That's why you've seen the protracted reaction here to my succinct tangential <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=152573">mention</a> of its existence in a post in this thread. (Compare nicknames in this thread and that one.)

But that's not the worst of it! This morning my 9-year-old niece, visiting with us, was confronted by the traumatizing sight of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassicaceae">mustard plant</a> someone had erected and burnt on our lawn in the course of the night. Normally when this happens I don't make too much of it, but this was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_juncea"><i>Brassica juncea</i></a>, the <i>very</i> species used in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_poupon"><i>Grey Poupon</i></a> Dijon-style mustard. No one should imagine that the observance of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwiRrK4lGzQ"><i>Omertà</i></a> implies the perpetrators will not <a href="http://alizeeofficiel.tumblr.com/post/403287645/style-n-7-la-sicilienne-look-7-can-we">regret</a> doing this.

Notwithstanding the rebuke I met, I hope this will not discourage you from speaking out against manifest savagery. I will not tar them by association with The Cult, but you should also be aware that other threads on AAm seem to venerate either Alizée's <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4307">hair</a>, <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3587">feet</a>, or goodness-knows-what other intimate personal body parts (I don't have the stomach to use the Search function). Surely it is not impossible for the more rabid Cult members, perhaps under <i>aliases</i>, to infiltrate such groups and lead them goodness-knows-where!

I will close by noting that many believe there is a good reason for a wholesome adoration of Alizée's <i>soul</i> and that my extensive research <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=150366#post150366">here</a>, recently expanded, gives people a reason to do so.

[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

anyway, peace just the same. I'm tired.


I have a feeling we'll get along as well as Aluminum wrapped around steel. Just a hunch from past experiences.

Regards,

Jung

[Chuck]

Damn! Jung know his metal! Heavy metal and white metal. Color me impressed! :D

[User22]

Damn! Jung know his metal! Heavy metal and white metal. Color me impressed! :D

love the avatar Chuck:D

[Scruffydog777]

Now getting a little off topic, then again maybe not, we discussed earlier about this song is somewhat about N.Y. city and we heard she visited New York city apparently in the summer of 2000. I'm just wondering if she might have gone to the world trade center. You would think if someone was going to the big apple and wanted to get a good view of the city, the best place to go would be the twin towers.

[Deepwaters]

She's visited New York several times, most recently I think in 2008 right after the Mexico concert tour.

[Scruffydog777]

She's visited New York several times, most recently I think in 2008 right after the Mexico concert tour.

But did she visit the twin towers back in 2000?

[Deepwaters]

But did she visit the twin towers back in 2000?

All I know is that she visited New York for the first time with Mylène Farmer. That could have been as early as 2000 but I kind of doubt it. I have seen pictures of her in NY and they were definitely from the MCE era going by her body build and hairstyle. Was that her first trip with M or a later one? I don't know. I've seen no pics of her in NY from the Gourmandises era, although that really doesn't prove anything.

Edit: speaking of "eras," let's note here that she has adopted a new look and image for EDS. It's as distinct from the Psychédélices era as from the earlier ones. Her Grace seems to reinvent herself in terms of appearance with each new musical project. Keeps us all entertained. ;)

[Scruffydog777]

All I know is that she visited New York for the first time with Mylène Farmer. That could have been as early as 2000 but I kind of doubt it.

Here's a copy of the translation of the interview that was done in January of 2001, where she said she had visited N.Y., so it must've been in 2000. Fourth paragraph up I believe.


http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/en/node/666

[User22]

Here's a copy of the translation of the interview that was done in January of 2001, where she said she had visited N.Y., so it must've been in 2000. Fourth paragraph up I believe.


http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/en/node/666

woh that was awesome....o and your not going off topic...."off topic" isn't in Alizée America Members' dictionaries. Do we have any pics whatsoever of her being in New York???

[FanDeAliFee]

Here's a copy of the translation of the interview that was done in January of 2001, where she said she had visited N.Y., so it must've been in 2000.

For convenience, I excerpted the relevant text sections in an earlier post <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151884">here</a>.

Could I make a personal suggestion, Scruff? I think you said that if the Corsican girl has an autograph-signing session in Paris in the near future, you'd be there. I'd like to suggest you present her a small gift of little <i>financial</i> value that might <i>mean</i> a lot to her, namely, an obsolete NYC subway token, like one of those I used in the linked post to spell "lili". You could remind her that Edie Sedgwick would have used one such when she could not catch a cab. etc. (Everybody used the subway back in the day, even "glamorous" people. Why? Well, for starters, consider this: In 1991, I paid something like $20 to park a lousy half-hour near the financial district in Manhattan! And that's when the dollar was worth a lot more than it is now.)

Unlike the MetroCard Alizée supposedly has, a token is something she could put on a charm bracelet! Wouldn't it be a <i>gas</i> if she accepted the token and was one day photographed wearing it on her bracelet? That would be even cooler than a sorta-Zorro medallion! ;o)

Because it is so cheap, she might accept the gift - it does not suggest she owes one any indecent gratitude. If she refused it, your fallback position would be to say it is a gift from ALL of AlizeeAmerica, because we knew Jérémy would be displeased if she accepted a present from an individual.

You can read about the history of the NYC subway at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway"><i>Wikipedia</i></a>. Edie Sedgwick might have used either the "small Y" or "big Y" <a href="http://www.nycsubway.org/tech/tokens/">tokens</a>, because she passed away in late 1971. On eBay, prices start at a couple bucks or so. I don't know how much it would cost to add a metal eye on the side for stringing, but in your trade, I bet you know a welder - if you are not also one yourself.

Obviously, Alizée would be able to buy a token via eBay herself - but with all the crap going on now, would she think of doing that, even assuming someone as young as she realizes there was a stone-age era without "smartcards"? (Aside: In the late 1980s, I worked with a French professor on sabbatical from U. Lille, who had then been developing them at his university!) I must say I find it strange that Alizée did not secure a token in place of a smartcard as a souvenir when visiting New York in 2000, as they were only totally eliminated in 2003. (One could ask Ben about plausible reasons.)

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[Deepwaters]

Because it is so cheap, she might accept the gift - it does not suggest she owes one any indecent gratitude. If she refused it, your fallback position would be to say it is a gift from ALL of AlizeeAmerica, because we knew Jérémy would be displeased if she accepted a present from an individual.


Where are you getting this idea? She gets gifts from individuals all the time, including much more expensive ones than a NY subway token (which I agree is a charming thought).

Doc, it occurs to me that you might benefit from a word of sincere advice: don't ever marry a celebrity. I can't speak for the J-man one way or another, but I'm getting the idea you would be constantly wracked with jealousy and give yourself ulcers. ;)

[Scruffydog777]

For convenience, I excerpted the relevant text sections in an earlier post <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151884">here</a>.

Could I make a personal suggestion, Scruff? I think you said that if the Corsican girl has an autograph-signing session in Paris in the near future, you'd be there. I'd like to suggest you present her a small gift of little <i>financial</i> value that might <i>mean</i> a lot to her, namely, an obsolete NYC subway token, like one of those I used in the linked post to spell "lili". You could remind her that Edie Sedgwick would have used one such when she could not catch a cab. etc. (Everybody used the subway back in the day, even "glamorous" people. Why? Well, for starters, consider this: In 1991, I paid something like $20 to park a lousy half-hour near the financial district in Manhattan! And that's when the dollar was worth a lot more than it is now.)

Unlike the MetroCard Alizée supposedly has, a token is something she could put on a charm bracelet! Wouldn't it be a <i>gas</i> if she accepted the token and was one day photographed wearing it on her bracelet? That would be even cooler than a sorta-Zorro medallion! ;o)

Because it is so cheap, she might accept the gift - it does not suggest she owes one any indecent gratitude. If she refused it, your fallback position would be to say it is a gift from ALL of AlizeeAmerica, because we knew Jérémy would be displeased if she accepted a present from an individual.

You can read about the history of the NYC subway at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway"><i>Wikipedia</i></a>. Edie Sedgwick might have used either the "small Y" or "big Y" <a href="http://www.nycsubway.org/tech/tokens/">tokens</a>, because she passed away in late 1971. On eBay, prices start at a couple bucks or so. I don't know how much it would cost to add a metal eye on the side for stringing, but in your trade, I bet you know a welder - if you are not also one yourself.

Obviously, Alizée would be able to buy a token via eBay herself - but with all the crap going on now, would she think of doing that, even assuming someone as young as she realizes there was a stone-age era without "smartcards"? (Aside: In the late 1980s, I worked with a French professor on sabbatical from U. Lille, who had then been developing them at his university!) I must say I find it strange that Alizée did not secure a token in place of a smartcard as a souvenir when visiting New York in 2000, as they were only totally eliminated in 2003. (One could ask Ben about plausible reasons.)



That's a very interesting idea and I'll definitely give it some thought. I would think probably the best token to use would be one from the time frame when she visited there. That way she would hopefully recognize it right away. I have a nephew who lives in Brooklyn who might be able to help me out with getting one.

I'm definitely hoping to be in Paris on the 29th of march. I had to send in my passport for renewal this week. That could be the only hangup, but I expedited it so I should get it back okay. Another guy I work with, expedited his last month and got it back in two weeks

I've kept a subway pass in my wallet since visit to Paris in 2007 for the autograph session then. I never really thought of it as a lucky charm or anything, I could just never bring myself to throw it out.

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[FanDeAliFee]

Where are you getting this idea? She gets gifts from individuals all the time, including much more expensive ones than a NY subway token.

Oh, I do indeed expect she gets expensive gifts by <i>mail</i> - but I don't think she can be charged with actively accepting them just because she <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ2tYoBfnlw#t=0m43s">forgoes</a> the bother and expense of posting them back, with or without a refusal note. If a vendor sends you merchandise you did not order, you are neither obliged to pay the enclosed bill nor return the goods.

But I would be surprised if <i>la fille corse</i> would accept a truly expensive gift presented to her in person by an individual at an autograph-signing session.


(...which I agree is a charming thought).
Oh, you punster!

[Deepwaters]

Gifts have been given to her at autograph signings, too, including the most recent one. It happens all the time. There's really no reason to worry about proprieties as long as your present doesn't go tick-tick-tick-BOOM and as long as it's not in bad taste.

I still think the subway token is a good idea, don't get me wrong. It's just that some of your thoughts are -- a bit quaint. If Jérémy worries about that sort of thing, he's married the wrong woman.

[FanDeAliFee]

Gifts have been given to her at autograph signings, too, including the most recent one. It happens all the time. There's really no reason to worry about proprieties as long as your present doesn't go tick-tick-tick-BOOM and as long as it's not in bad taste.

No offense intended, but forced with the choice, I prefer to disbelieve that she accepts <i>expensive</i> gifts from strange individuals to the alternative of having my sleep forever disturbed by nightmares of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQU0_PHUB2E#t=0m38s"><i>stage toor Chonnies!<i></a>

[User22]

No offense intended, but forced with the choice, I prefer to disbelieve that she accepts <i>expensive</i> gifts from strange individuals to the alternative of having my sleep forever disturbed by nightmares of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQU0_PHUB2E#t=0m38s"><i>stage toor Chonnies!<i></a>

very weeeerd video....but somewhat funny...10 gallon hat haha

[FanDeAliFee]

very weeeerd video....but somewhat funny...10 gallon hat haha
You might try watching the comedy film from which this comes, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blazing_Saddles"><i>Blazing Saddles</i></a>. These days, anything goes, but in its time (1974) this was a low-brow pioneer which also set a box-office record for a comedy. It is near the very top of the America Film Institute's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Laughs">list</a> of best film comedies and one of about 500 films in the US <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Registry">National Film Registry</a>.

[Fenris]

You can vote for Les Collines at this french radio station, the first 15 titles will get some airplay....atm she is 37th. One vote per hour (+5 points are for free) is possible.

http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html

[Fall]

You can vote for Les Collines at this french radio station, the first 15 titles will get some airplay....atm she is 37th. One vote per hour (+5 points are for free) is possible.

http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html
I tried getting people to vote, nobody really did. But I got her to the first page by voting all by myself! More of us can do so much more.

[Fenris]

I tried getting people to vote, nobody really did. But I got her to the first page by voting all by myself! More of us can do so much more.

Thx for your effort anyway. Actually she is on page 3, being 28th.
Won't make it into the top 15 until Sunday evening 20h (french time).
But the voting will start again after that (until Wednesday), so there will be a new chance..

[Jenny_HRO87]

Back to zero... call me crazy but I gave her 100 points http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/class...ade/index.html

[Fall]

Thx for your effort anyway. Actually she is on page 3, being 28th.
Won't make it into the top 15 until Sunday evening 20h (french time).
But the voting will start again after that (until Wednesday), so there will be a new chance..
Yeah when I wrote that she was at the third page as you said. But I was talking about when I asked people to vote for that several months ago, not recently.

[Sachin_22]

Awesome song...waiting 4 her album to release . . .

[Scruffydog777]

Which page are you voting on? There's three, hit parade, hit web and hit clip. I guess it can't be hit clip yet! I just voted on hit parade, where she's up to 7th place. I'm going back to check out hit web.

EDIT:

There are three options to vote. You can click on +5, +35, or +100. It's free to vote to add 5 points. The others will cost you some dough.

Once you sign in, you click on charts, that's where you'll see the voting options and I guess it's the hit parade one that we're voting on.

[Fenris]

Nope, you don't have to register. Just click on Hit parade and then the +5 besides Les Collines, and the voting window will pop up.

[Merci Alizée]

So everyone, just vote, vote and vote.

[Jess]

Wow !! I didn't know about this...

[Scruffydog777]

Nope, you don't have to register. Just click on Hit parade and then the +5 besides Les Collines, and the voting window will pop up.

I thought you had to register. Thanks for letting us know Fenris. I'll edit my earlier posts so anyone else who reads it wont get turned off of the idea by thinking they do have to register.

[Chuck]

Wow! Today Les Collines in 6th place by a comfortable margin. :D

[FanDeAliFee]

<i>Les Collines</i> now at number SIX at http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html
and ONLY FIVE POINTS behind number 5 guys... ;)

No registration is required, but they are using a "CAPTCHA" image to frustrate easy automatic voting.

[Fall]

5th place with a 40 point lead ahead of 6th atm

[Chuck]

Now it's an 80 point lead, AND you can VOTE EVERY HOUR. Didn't we have to wait 5 hours before?

[Fall]

Now it's an 80 point lead, AND you can VOTE EVERY HOUR. Didn't we have to wait 5 hours before?
I think it's always been an hour. Or a little bit over. I've never had to wait 5 hours, yikes! :eek:

[FanDeAliFee]

Voting at http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html
"Les Collines" now at #4 by a 15-point margin.

[Ange]

this new sounds is alot like a galaxy

[Rev]

Barely in 4th.

[kristofer]

I'm really obsessed with the two released songs now. I need to find an mp3 of this one hahah. As soon as I get home I go to youtube and listen to it wherever I can find it.
._.''

[Merci Alizée]

I'm really obsessed with the two released songs now. I need to find an mp3 of this one hahah. As soon as I get home I go to youtube and listen to it wherever I can find it.
._.''

Alizée's official youtube channel:

http://fr.youtube.com/user/alizeeofficiel

that's the best place to listen to the songs.

Do add your comments there and rate it too.

[Scruffydog777]

As of right now Alizée is in fourth place on Radio Atlantis. Some how, Cathy Varna jumped into a huge lead at the very start of the voting, but everyone including Lilly is catching up to her. I think we have a chance to get her up to the top this week.

http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html

[Merci Alizée]

As of right now Alizée is in fourth place on Radio Atlantis. Some how, Cathy Varna jumped into a huge lead at the very start of the voting, but everyone including Lilly is catching up to her. I think we have a chance to get her up to the top this week.

http://www.radioatlantis.fr/fr/classement/hit-parade/index.html

Well, I'm just waiting for 2 more days and after that I'll do everything to race the song to the top. Till then all of you please try your best.

[Orion]

Well all this voting is good but the best way to promote her with atleast some sort of valid outcome from it is to send the album to radio stations, and do stuff like that. . . . I'm not saying it's the way top go for everyone, ofcourse, but that's what I plan on doing with a couple or French/English radio stations in Quebec, Canada. It's just that I never really got into this voting thingy. Some are more legit than others, but once you can vote every hr, or cheat the server in some way, it all becomes about as interesting as a 5lb bag of fertilizer.

BUT recognition is the key. . . so whatever works ;)

whatever the case, everything you guys do to promote her and show her your loyalty is a great thing, and you can bet she is proud to have you dudes and dudettes as fans 8)

[Ronald]

I just noticed that "les collines" is on Itunes (netherlands)

The only song that reached the charts here was her first one "moi lolita" and her album was available, never seen any of her albums in any store here, so I doubt this will be a hit here:confused:

[Topaz]

Well all this voting is good but the best way to promote her with atleast some sort of valid outcome from it is to send the album to radio stations, and do stuff like that. . . . I'm not saying it's the way top go for everyone, ofcourse, but that's what I plan on doing with a couple or French/English radio stations in Quebec, Canada. It's just that I never really got into this voting thingy. Some are more legit than others, but once you can vote every hr, or cheat the server in some way, it all becomes about as interesting as a 5lb bag of fertilizer.

BUT recognition is the key. . . so whatever works ;)

whatever the case, everything you guys do to promote her and show her your loyalty is a great thing, and you can bet she is proud to have you dudes and dudettes as fans 8)

Orion, I would usually agree but this voting is to keep it on the radio. (top 15) So it is doing what you say, airplay is good.

I like the smiley with the eyes. Here's Homer:

(_8^(I)


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[Merci Alizée]

Today on 11th March, Alizée will shoot video for her new single "les collines" and pics of those shoot will be posted on her blog.