Will she JEAM again?

[Aaronius31]

I just want to know what people think about this just so I and others can feel better. Will she ever (whether for Mexico of France) perform J'en Ai Marre again? I know it won't be in the JEAM suit but I am wondering if she will do something like she did in 2007 on a TV program called Acoustic. All opinions will be greatly appreciated:)

[wasabi622]

I don't see why not. I mean, it's one of her very popular songs, so I can't see why she would have an issue with singing it again.

[Aaronius31]

I don't see why not. I mean, it's one of her very popular songs, so I can't see why she would have an issue with singing it again.

Yah cuz I mean she did JEAM again in Mexico...so I'm pretty sure once she goes back there that she will HAVE to do it again...

[wasabi622]

Yah cuz I mean she did JEAM again in Mexico...so I'm pretty sure once she goes back there that she will HAVE to do it again...

Hahaa, so she HAS to do it again eh? :p

Though on second thought.. JEAM doesn't really fit in with UEdS. I mean, it's a whole different genre of music. I still stand by what I said earlier, but I think it'll kind of stick out oddly in contrast to the rest of the music she'll probably be performing.

[Jalen]

She'll definitely sing it again (when, is the question)

But definitely NOT in the JEAM suit, she's tried to hard to get away from that
plus the US government is in the process of trying to acquire it for the Smithsonian

[wasabi622]

R.I.P J'en Ai Marre suit...

*plays taps*

[lefty12357]

I would imagine Alizée will perform JEAM again, but it might get re-orchestrated again to match the current style. Could be interesting. :)

[Aaronius31]

If they fit JEAM into the electroness of Une Fille Difficile I think I would melt out of awesomeness...

[wasabi622]

If they fit JEAM into the electroness of Une Fille Difficile I think I would melt out of awesomeness...

Electropop JEAM?

Wow... that would just be... *mindblown*

[Fall06]

I think she might also sing the David Rubato remix of Fifty Sixty that started this whole thing, it'd be great to see her sing that :)

[Aaronius31]

I think she might also sing the David Rubato remix of Fifty Sixty that started this whole thing, it'd be great to see her sing that :)

Ahh that would be quite nice. I think a France Performance would be more official with no songs from her past, but Mexico would be almost all her songs haha

[Uroboros]

I really hope so! JEAM is my favorite, but the videos of its performance are old, I would really like a recent one :rolleyes:

[Jeff]

Like I said before, the day she puts back on the suit for JEAM and starts dancing like she use to, that will be the day that her fans and sales increase like they did when she first began.


but as far as she is now, she'll just continue to loose fans over and over again through the years.

[Future Raptor Ace]

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J'en Ai Marre 2009

[Junkmale]

Agh FRA....why did you have to make me listen to that horrible version again!! :-)

She should be proud of her past work instead of messing it all up.
We will hear JEAM again but not the way its supposed to sound, unfortunately.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Electro JEAM... Mes Courants ÉLÉCTRIQUES... Anybody else think that s appropriate? Also, what is JEAM 2009? Post youtube link?

[Future Raptor Ace]

Agh FRA....why did you have to make me listen to that horrible version again!! :-)

She should be proud of her past work instead of messing it all up.
We will hear JEAM again but not the way its supposed to sound, unfortunately.
she doesnt have a choice, she doesnt own the rights to JEAM therefore she had to change it

Electro JEAM... Mes Courants ÉLÉCTRIQUES... Anybody else think that s appropriate? Also, what is JEAM 2009? Post youtube link?

look up about 2 posts bro

[Lerxst]

she doesnt have a choice, she doesnt own the rights to JEAM therefore she had to change it

Not true. You can't copyright an arrangement of a song.

It has more to do with her trying to make a clean break from her past. She just doesn't want to perform it anymore.

[Future Raptor Ace]

Not true. You can't copyright an arrangement of a song.

It has more to do with her trying to make a clean break from her past. She just doesn't want to perform it anymore.
im pretty sure you can

[Aaronius31]

VVV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxocYuy1_3I&feature=player_embedded

And yes if she was allowed to do the one in 2009, then she is allowed to do another.

And I just think an Electro JEAM would be the best thing she has done since JEAM haha

[Lerxst]

im pretty sure you can

That is a myth that I have seen pop up on these forums every now and then.

When she started performing the altered versions of her old songs, people had a hard time accepting it and that led to a lot of speculation and conjecture. One of the excuses that arose from that was belief in a conspiracy that MF and LB wouldn't allow Alizee to perform the original versions. Over time, the myth then sort of took a life of its own. Like most myths, if it gets repeated enough times, people start to accept it as fact.

The truth is you can only copyright music and lyrics, not arrangement. So, this myth has no basis in fact. She can perform any version she wants.

Some fans just have a hard time accepting that Alizee might actually not want to perform her old songs.

[Alex]

^ Tsss like me, I am not a big fan at all of the new arrangements of the great masterpieces of MF and LB. In my opnion it sucks out all the beauty of the original intruments used and is at a tone where Alizée's voice can not meet. Im not worried or want her to go back to the JEAM dance, but I do wish her voice would be at the proper tone where she can execute it beautifully.

[Aaronius31]

I do wish her voice would be at the proper tone where she can execute it beautifully.

Ahhh...now see I thought, "wait, does she still have the voice to do it?". But then thought that yes she does, she performed it at Mexico alot and performed it in 2009...So I know she is still capable of singing it.

But what I can't comprehend is how Alizee is only 25...this is insane...she is lightyears ahead of most artists at 25, most only start out at 25. So I am sure she will have a great voice that can perform any of her songs for a long time:)

[Alex]

She has the voice to do it I'm sure, but what I've heard from news video recordongs of the '08 concerts, JEAM, ML, and other songs she porfermed at En Concert her voice was not consistent, controlled, at tone which we heard in En Concert. She just needs to focus a little more on that for future shows.

Note: Just my opinion and point of view :D

[Aaronius31]

Well, I thought she was very consistent with En Concert(of which I have heard raw recordings for the concerts in Nice, Brussels, and the other place), and she was very consistent and sounded very good live(REALLY GOOD!!!). She hit every note perfect and I don't know why she can't do that all the time. If she takes the time to practice, her voice can be perfect for these upcoming performances(and hopefully one is JEAM:D).

[Alex]

Yeah there is no doubt about her perfect voice execution in En Concert, and I agree practice here I think is the issue, Im pretty sure Mylene trained her most of the time and got her voice to a great level, today with the absence of Mylene she has to find her ways to practice her voice and get it to the great level she still can have :).The original music of her songs were composed for her and her voice, all the songs go smoothly and are wonderful, hopefully she can reach that level once again :).

[Aaronius31]

This Summer, one woman, one mission, one concert.

Alizee was a big star in the French Spotlight.

She came out with a new album called Une Enfant Du Siecle.

She was going to perform a concert in front of millions.

But her voice was not ready.

She had to make a trek to...Mylene.

Alizee embarked on a voyage to save her career and put her back into the Limelight.

Coming to theaters June 12th.

Rated JEAM



I wonder why she can't just visit the Sensei and learn the ways of Mylene again so she can go back to that perfect voice....im tired....

[thekidEm]

^ Tsss like me, I am not a big fan at all of the new arrangements of the great masterpieces of MF and LB. In my opnion it sucks out all the beauty of the original intruments used and is at a tone where Alizée's voice can not meet. Im not worried or want her to go back to the JEAM dance, but I do wish her voice would be at the proper tone where she can execute it beautifully.

me neither. I can't comprehend the new arrangement of Moi Loilita, with the bit of "hey mr. dj....", i find it weird and it doesn't go with Moi Lolita :(

[Alex]

me neither. I can't comprehend the new arrangement of Moi Loilita, with the bit of "hey mr. dj....", i find it weird and it doesn't go with Moi Lolita :(

Ahgr that line just doesn't go! :( Plus that line is from a song of Madonna, why lilly why lilly? :o All the precious original instruments are gone and are substituted by only 3 musicians and a DJ.

[Ruroshen]

I'm going to be the lone dissenter here, and say that I doubt we'll hear her perform JEAM again, or likely any of the MF/LB-era songs, with the possible lone exception of Moi...Lolita, given that it's the tenth anniversary of her big breakout single. And even that I expect to see reorchestrated again to fit the current style.

I think the new tour will more likely draw heavily from UEdS, with some of the stronger songs from Psych thrown in (and possibly a few covers like La Isla Bonita) to pad it out time-wise.

Sorry to rain on your parade, gang, but with two albums of her "own" material to draw upon now, I really don't see her retaining much of the Gourmandises/MCE catalogue. At most, we'll see a medley, and I think even that's wishful thinking.

[Alex]

I'm going to be the lone dissenter here, and say that I doubt we'll hear her perform JEAM again, or likely any of the MF/LB-era songs, with the possible lone exception of Moi...Lolita, given that it's the tenth anniversary of her big breakout single. And even that I expect to see reorchestrated again to fit the current style.

I think the new tour will more likely draw heavily from UEdS, with some of the stronger songs from Psych thrown in (and possibly a few covers like La Isla Bonita) to pad it out time-wise.

Sorry to rain on your parade, gang, but with two albums of her "own" material to draw upon now, I really don't see her retaining much of the Gourmandises/MCE catalogue. At most, we'll see a medley, and I think even that's wishful thinking.

Unfortunally, this is true. All her songs from all eras will most likely be reorchestrated towards the new style. However I still hope she works her voice to meet the tone and level of the new style to be ble to give a great live performance :D. I guess time will tell.

[Jalen]

As long as it wasn't anything like the reorchestration version of Amelie M'a Dit....

[Alex]

As long as it wasn't anything like the reorchestration version of Amelie M'a Dit....

Whoa hold on! There was a reorchestration of Amelie M'a Dit?! :eek: when was this? Please enlight me :D

[Scruffydog777]

Agh FRA....why did you have to make me listen to that horrible version again!! :-)

She should be proud of her past work instead of messing it all up.
We will hear JEAM again but not the way its supposed to sound, unfortunately.

I didn't want to say any thing negative about this song, then I saw this post and it was so in line with how I felt, that I just had to comment. I relistened to the acoustic version and 1 line was all I could take. In my opinion, it's an absolutely horrible remake.

Even the live version of J'en ai marre didn't sound as near as good as the studio enhanced version, but seeing her dance to it, would have been worth the price of admission. It was a lot like Moi Lolita, which too didn't sound that good when sung live, but the way she performed them in concert, they were definitely fan favorites.

This thread kind of raises the questions of was there something to be learned by the fact that she had to cancel 2 concerts in Paris and if there was, did she learn anything?

She looks to be in beautiful shape now and if she decided to do some version of the JAM dance in concert, it would undoubtedly draw a huge crowd, but I don't think she needs it to be successful. I think she should concentrate on the songs that sounded best live, in their un-re-orchestrated version. We've debated before as to whether she has the rights to the original versions or not. If she doesn't have the rights, she needs to get them.

These are the songs that I thought sounded best live, and I would climb any mountain, swim any ocean to see them sung in their original version. Hey
Amigo, L'Alize, Lou ou Toi, Toc de mac, Amelie m'a dit, Youpidoo, L'e-mail a des ailes, A Contre Courant.

Like I said, she doesn't need to dance during her performances to have success, but she is so incredibly beautiful in the way she dances that it would be a mistake for her not to in any concert she might perform in. But they have to be orchestrated by someone who is good at it, i.e. MF. The lame efforts that were typical of the Psych era wont raise an eyebrow.

[another_alizee_fan]

In a Mexican interview that I saw the Mexican press asked Alizée about being the Lolita and JEAM. Alizée kept saying that, "I'm older now." In the context of the interview I got the distinct impression that she will never again suit up for the song or act the Lolita bit. Too bad.. but she is 25 years old and does have a family and after reading her original website in 2005, I don't think she really wanted to be a Lolita. She did what she was told so she could become famous. She then got married and Jeremy, no doubt, fucked it up for the rest of us by putting thoughts in her head. And "Voila!" Alizée is still here but only a mere shadow of her former fame and self.

[Deepwaters]

Oh, good lordy. :rolleyes:

A lot of the attitudes expressed above are simply a teenage boy's crush on a teenage girl he first encountered in performances recorded years ago by a girl who isn't a teenage girl any more.

She isn't being all matronly now FFS. She's just become a woman instead of a girl. She's seeking a different audience than she was in those days, and if you're a teenage boy who fell for her from those old performances, you're NOT part of the audience she is looking for now. Her music is complex, nuanced, interesting, and her appeal is that of a grown woman, not an ingenue. I find her not only musically more interesting but also much, much, MUCH sexier in the Les Collines video than in those old sailor-suit dances.

Guys, there are still hot teenage girl performers out there. It's just ridiculous for you to expect someone who was a teenage girl ten years ago to remain frozen in amber for you forever. If that's what you're looking for, move on; it still exists. And maybe you'll rediscover Alizée a few years from now when you're a grown-up, too.

[Junkmale]

The sailor suit is gone and won't be coming back. I don't have an issue with that.
But i have to say that i think the 'new' rearranged versions of JEAM and the other old(ish) songs she has played sporadically live are awful.
Yes, she's moved on but that's no reason not to accept her past and to be proud of it?
JEAM is a fantastic song. What is there to be ashamed of? She dosen't have to do the patented figure waggle any more but why change the basic sound of it?
If (and it's a big IF) we ever get another live concert i really hope she sings it the way it's supposed to be. And why not?

[Jurre]

Oh, good lordy. :rolleyes:

A lot of the attitudes expressed above are simply a teenage boy's crush on a teenage girl he first encountered in performances recorded years ago by a girl who isn't a teenage girl any more.

She isn't being all matronly now FFS. She's just become a woman instead of a girl. She's seeking a different audience than she was in those days, and if you're a teenage boy who fell for her from those old performances, you're NOT part of the audience she is looking for now. Her music is complex, nuanced, interesting, and her appeal is that of a grown woman, not an ingenue. I find her not only musically more interesting but also much, much, MUCH sexier in the Les Collines video than in those old sailor-suit dances.

Guys, there are still hot teenage girl performers out there. It's just ridiculous for you to expect someone who was a teenage girl ten years ago to remain frozen in amber for you forever. If that's what you're looking for, move on; it still exists. And maybe you'll rediscover Alizée a few years from now when you're a grown-up, too.

Amen to that.

[Scruffydog777]

Her new music may be complex, nuanced, and interesting, but is it good? We can debate that all we want, but it's something that will ultimately be decided by the people of France.

[Deepwaters]

Her new music may be complex, nuanced, and interesting, but is it good? We can debate that all we want, but it's something that will ultimately be decided by the people of France.

No. By the people of the whole world.

[Ruroshen]

Also, "popular" doesn't necessarily equal "good". A lot of crap floats to the top in our society, unfortunately.

[thekidEm]

Whoa hold on! There was a reorchestration of Amelie M'a Dit?! :eek: when was this? Please enlight me :D

here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF9hj-ppS2I

The sailor suit is gone and won't be coming back. I don't have an issue with that.
But i have to say that i think the 'new' rearranged versions of JEAM and the other old(ish) songs she has played sporadically live are awful.
Yes, she's moved on but that's no reason not to accept her past and to be proud of it?
JEAM is a fantastic song. What is there to be ashamed of? She dosen't have to do the patented figure waggle any more but why change the basic sound of it?
If (and it's a big IF) we ever get another live concert i really hope she sings it the way it's supposed to be. And why not?

Exactly. I don't care about the dance moves/the suit, which I am not fond of anyway. The basic sound of the songs in the old catalogue is simply wonderful. I wish she could keep it.

[Alex]

Thanks!^........(going to the video) what did she do?!!! Aahhh just listened to it about 30 sec and I just couldn't accept this new version. As I said this new style with her original songs completely suck out, drain, destroyed the complete beauty and masterpiece MF and LB composed to Alizée. Where are the various guitars, backup singers, keyboard, drummer, the true instruments for these songs??? I miss the investment it was made for En Concert concerning musicians :(. (sigh)...:o .but Im still a fan of her eventhough I will miss the true sound of MF and LB masterpieces. :o

[Deepwaters]

The changes to the old sound represent a valid criticism IMO. I like her new sound a lot, but it is a little jarring to hear one of LB's old compositions mutated into it.

I think perhaps her thinking is that it would be too much of a strange note to have both the old sound and the new in the same performance, hence the reinstrumentalization. I'm not altogether sure it works, though. It might be better just to let those old songs rest in peace. (I know a lot of you don't want to think about that possibility, but . . .)

[Roman]

Yah cuz I mean she did JEAM again in Mexico...so I'm pretty sure once she goes back there that she will HAVE to do it again...

Yeah, pretty much. Regardless of what Alizée might say, JEAM is the Mexican Moi... Lolita for her. If she does a full on concert again in Mexico, I would not be surprised to hear La Isla Bonita and JEAM if nothing else (outside of her last two albums).

I went to the 2008 concerts and got the experience of Alizée singing those great songs live; so, I don't think I'd really mind just moving on since it's not the same anyway - the island jam version. It might be interesting to hear them totally reorchestrate the song yet again, but will they? If the song is there, I totally expect it to be reorchestrated. It would be surprising to see her not do her most popular song. In 2007 we had doubts as to whether or not she would ever sing Moi... Lolita again and then it was the first song she came out with in tv performances. We were surprised by that.

[Fenris]

I must confess i did not like the re-orchestrations of her old songs that much.
Most horrible was L'Alizé live in Moscow. What a mutilation of a wonderful song.

I fully understand that her new songs are different, but i would love if she payed proper hommage to these old songs as they were. No need to change them.
At least not that radically. Ofc no one expects her to wear this JEAM suit nowadays. ;)

Edit: IF there are really some new concerts in 2010: Alizée, please bring back some of the old gems. It's a win-win move.
I'm sure the audience would go nuts with happiness if she would sing something like Gourmandises, A contre-courant or Amelie m'a dit on this occasion.
There is nothing wrong with the old songs. We all know she has grown up by now, she does not need to prove it by ignoring her old hits.

[Scruffydog777]

The reason people don't want to let the old songs rest is because they were great songs. The kind of songs that you want to play over and over again. I still listen to them practicaly every day. When ever I go some where, I have a cd of hers in my truck and my car and that's all I listen to, along with some of her remixes.

There's only one song from Psych that falls into that category and that is Par les Paupieres. Fifty sixty and Lilly town aren't bad either but I don't have the urge to listen to them as often. Les Collines is a good song, but with it too, I only listen to it once in a while. I've only listened to the album 3 times now.

As far as her leaving the older songs out of any up coming concerts. I think it would be better for her to do that, than to sing these re-orchestrated versions.

[Deepwaters]

The reason people don't want to let the old songs rest is because they were great songs. . . . There's only one song from Psych that falls into that category and that is Par les Paupieres.


You really shouldn't state personal preferences as if they were objective facts. I find there are a lot of songs from Psych that I listened to over and over again, and currently there are a lot from UEDS that I do the same. At this point it's been quite a while since I've heard any of the songs from the first two albums at all. Not saying I never will again, of course, they're just not up there on my "current listening" list.


As far as her leaving the older songs out of any up coming concerts. I think it would be better for her to do that, than to sing these re-orchestrated versions.

I'm inclined to agree. Of course, the recorded versions are still available and still good. I just don't think Moi . . . Lolita, L'Alizé, JEAM, or JPVA come across well in an electro-pop version.

[Jalen]

I must confess i did not like the re-orchestrations of her old songs that much.
Most horrible was L'Alizé live in Moscow. What a mutilation of a wonderful song.

I fully understand that her new songs are different, but i would love if she payed proper hommage to these old songs as they were. No need to change them.
At least not that radically. Ofc no one expects her to wear this JEAM suit nowadays. ;)

Yes.

The reason people don't want to let the old songs rest is because they were great songs. The kind of songs that you want to play over and over again. I still listen to them practicaly every day. When ever I go some where, I have a cd of hers in my truck and my car and that's all I listen to, along with some of her remixes.

There's only one song from Psych that falls into that category and that is Par les Paupieres. Fifty sixty and Lilly town aren't bad either but I don't have the urge to listen to them as often. Les Collines is a good song, but with it too, I only listen to it once in a while. I've only listened to the album 3 times now.

As far as her leaving the older songs out of any up coming concerts. I think it would be better for her to do that, than to sing these re-orchestrated versions.

Well, although Psych was radically different, I still believe it's better than UEdS in terms of her voice. Psych featured her real voice (or at least, more real than UEdS), and UEdS does not have one second of unedited vocals.

I mean, listen to L'effet and say, La Candida (though any song could be substituted.

[Scruffydog777]

You really shouldn't state personal preferences as if they were objective facts.

Well I think the fact that she performed in over 20 concerts in France in a little over a 2 month period after her first two albums, but after psych, she couldn't get enough fans to perform 1 concert, shows there's a lot more people who have similar preferences as mine. And as far as Mexico was concerned. They were expecting the beautiful young woman in the sailor suit to show up.

[Deepwaters]

Well I think the fact that she performed in over 20 concerts in France in a little over a 2 month period after her first two albums, but after psych, she couldn't get enough fans to perform 1 concert, shows there's a lot more people who have similar preferences as mine. And as far as Mexico was concerned. They were expecting the beautiful young woman in the sailor suit to show up.

You didn't say her older songs were, in their time, more popular. You said they were better. More popular is an objective fact. Better is a subjective opinion.

An artist has to follow his or her heart. That's a more important consideration than fame or popularity. Calls for Alizée to go back to singing the old material, or to reunite with Mylène and Laurent, are calls for her to do what her heart says no to. That she might be more of a commercial success if she did is in fact questionable (because it's doubtful she could do it well if her heart wasn't in it), but in any case it's irrelevant. She is doing what she wants to do, going where her muse leads, and if that means not as many people will get it, and she won't be the huge success she was in the past, but must be content with a lower level of fame, she seems OK with that, and that means I am, too.

EDIT: I was once asked by a friend in Paris what I, as a fan, wanted from Alizée. I said that I thought the next album needed to be more focused than Psychédélices with a unified style instead of a melange. I also said I wanted her to be happy and as successful as she wants to be. That's still what I want.

[HelixSix]

Some fans just have a hard time accepting that Alizee might actually not want to perform her old songs.

A lot of the attitudes expressed above are simply a teenage boy's crush on a teenage girl he first encountered in performances recorded years ago by a girl who isn't a teenage girl any more.

Guys, there are still hot teenage girl performers out there. It's just ridiculous for you to expect someone who was a teenage girl ten years ago to remain frozen in amber for you forever. If that's what you're looking for, move on; it still exists. And maybe you'll rediscover Alizée a few years from now when you're a grown-up, too.

Very very true statements. People refuse to move on and they put their own selfish desires above what Alizée is obviously trying to distance herself from.

The reason people don't want to let the old songs rest is because they were great songs. The kind of songs that you want to play over and over again. I still listen to them practicaly every day.
Then there shouldn't be a problem. You have the old songs and the videos just like everybody else does. Nothing is stopping anybody from enjoying them. But the selfishness going on around here honestly makes me ashamed to be a member.

Edit: IF there are really some new concerts in 2010: Alizée, please bring back some of the old gems. It's a win-win move.
I'm sure the audience would go nuts with happiness if she would sing something like Gourmandises, A contre-courant or Amelie m'a dit on this occasion.
There is nothing wrong with the old songs. We all know she has grown up by now, she does not need to prove it by ignoring her old hits.

You have no idea if it would be a win win move for her. You just want it to be since you'd be in that audience going nuts to satisfy your own needs or urges. Ever consider that she might not like performing for an audience that wants what she was rather than what she is?

She did not create the early songs, MF and LB did. The songs and performances were created for a specific girl of her age and sexual identity, she did not create the lolita image. She was a girl then which was a long time ago, but she is a woman now. She would be showing weakness as an artist and degrading herself by succumbing to people who have not moved on and also do not respect her for who she is now.

It's like a bunch of spoiled brats in here at a toy store, "I want this, I want that, I want I want I want...please please."

How about "what does Alizée want?"

[Merci Alizée]

It's like a bunch of spoiled brats in here at a toy store, "I want this, I want that, I want I want I want...please please."

How about "what does Alizée want?"

Every person has desires.

Difference is that young ones have to rely on older ones to fulfill their desires.

Older ones know that they have to fulfill those desires on their own.

That's why young ones don't think about the fact whether those demands are appropriate or not. Older ones have better understanding of the situation, so they think about it.

So, don't get mad after seeing this so called toy store kinda situation here.

I agree with you that everyone should think what Alizée wants, but that shouldn't be stopping people from expressing what they want. After all those are the one who are blessed with her services.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I thought of something. There was a game developer I read about in GameInformer. He was asked whether he thought video games were art. He responded no. Art is something that is created from an artists' perspective. It is one way, and one way only. The artist creates what they feel, and paint, sculpt, record it how they feel. Pictures, paitings, tv, movies, books, and, most relevant to this site, music, are art. The observer looks at it from the perspective the artist intends; it is not interactive, so it appeals most to those who share similar perspectives to the artist. We are not meant to influence Alizée's art, as it IS art. But with video games, they are interactive, and are meant to be seen from the observer's perspective. I hope this analogy helps. If you truely appreciate Alizée's art, you will not mind having no direct interaction. Having her do it her way, and not trying to convince her to redo an old piece of art. I said earlier I would like to see electro-JEAM, I hope nobody took that wrong.

[Aaronius31]

OK PEOPLE!!! This thread was not created based on the JEAM dance or how bad some selfish people want to see her in that suit again!

This thread was created for people's opinion on if she would SING JEAM again...

So please don't go around saying how immature, selfish, and greedy people are.

I don't want another thread closed because of a fight.

Respect other people's posts and post your ideas...

Thanks;)

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Well, whe you say will she JEAM again, you are usng JEAM as a verb. Here is JEAM's entry in my mind's dictionary: [JEAM: (v. Pro: jeme) 1. To perform the dance associated with the Alizée song titled J'en Ai Marre ! 2. To dance along with Alizée, while she is doing said dance.] Maybe you should have asked 'Will She SING JEAM Again?' I thought you meant the dance. But as I said, electro-JEAM=epic aweomeness!

[Merci Alizée]

Well, whe you say will she JEAM again, you are usng JEAM as a verb. Here is JEAM's entry in my mind's dictionary: [JEAM: (v. Pro: jeme) 1. To perform the dance associated with the Alizée song titled J'en Ai Marre ! 2. To dance along with Alizée, while she is doing said dance.] Maybe you should have asked 'Will She SING JEAM Again?' I thought you meant the dance. But as I said, electro-JEAM=epic aweomeness!

Once again pointing out the importance of Grammar. Nice :)

Edit:

OK PEOPLE!!! This thread was not created based on the JEAM dance or how bad some selfish people want to see her in that suit again!

This thread was created for people's opinion on if she would SING JEAM again...

So please don't go around saying how immature, selfish, and greedy people are.

I don't want another thread closed because of a fight.

Respect other people's posts and post your ideas...

Thanks;)

That's how sometimes threads deviate from it's original sense.

[another_alizee_fan]

The reason people don't want to let the old songs rest is because they were great songs. The kind of songs that you want to play over and over again. I still listen to them practically every day. When ever I go some where, I have a CD of hers in my truck and my car and that's all I listen to, along with some of her remixes.

There's only one song from Psych that falls into that category and that is Par les Paupieres. Fifty sixty and Lilly town aren't bad either but I don't have the urge to listen to them as often. Les Collines is a good song, but with it too, I only listen to it once in a while. I've only listened to the album 3 times now.

As far as her leaving the older songs out of any up coming concerts. I think it would be better for her to do that, than to sing these re-orchestrated versions.


I agree totally! I still listen to her first 2 CDs a lot, not so much to her new stuff. What can I say..Mylène & Laurent know their stuff and are among the best in the business. Lets face it, Alizée's new team isn't even in the same league as her old team. But she's doing what she wants to do and if that makes her happy and a good living then so be it.


And as far as Mexico was concerned. They were expecting the beautiful young woman in the sailor suit to show up.

No doubt..she didn't give them what they wanted or expected so I'm sure (I know) that most of them were very disappointed. If you were expecting the Jewel of the Nile and received a common stone from the gravel pit instead, wouldn't you be disappointed? I hate to say it but that's how I feel. Sorry.

[pepelepew]

I thought of something. There was a game developer I read about in GameInformer. He was asked whether he thought video games were art. He responded no. Art is something that is created from an artists' perspective. It is one way, and one way only. The artist creates what they feel, and paint, sculpt, record it how they feel. Pictures, paitings, tv, movies, books, and, most relevant to this site, music, are art. The observer looks at it from the perspective the artist intends; it is not interactive, so it appeals most to those who share similar perspectives to the artist. We are not meant to influence Alizée's art, as it IS art. But with video games, they are interactive, and are meant to be seen from the observer's perspective. I hope this analogy helps. If you truely appreciate Alizée's art, you will not mind having no direct interaction. Having her do it her way, and not trying to convince her to redo an old piece of art. I said earlier I would like to see electro-JEAM, I hope nobody took that wrong.excellent points VVV. All Mf/LB music had a nuanced complexity that would be very difficult to recreate even with the musical instruments that were used in those early pieces. That cake was baked and can never be rebaked so to speak. With Alizee's complete change in musical style I have no desire to hear a new version of Jeam era or even Psych era remakes in the electro pop genre. So looking back will just turn you to salt. Put a fork in it. It is done. I love everything Alizee has done thus far and have no expectation that any two albums will be remotely the same. That is one of the many things I like about Alizee. She is like a box of chocolates. You never know what your going to get.:wub:

[HelixSix]

This thread was created for people's opinion on if she would SING JEAM again...
Well that's mostly what I am talking about. The songs themselves were created for the portrayal of a lolita and whether or not she puts on the tight clothes or dances the song still carries that meaning. She didn't create that identity in the first place, MF and LB did.

If they were normal songs not based on the young girl lolita connotation then she might be more open to performing them again. I don't think I'm wrong when I say she wants to be appreciated for what she is now rather than what she was then.

[another_alizee_fan]

... I don't think I'm wrong when I say she wants to be appreciated for what she is now rather than what she was then.

She's ok now but there is no denying that she was the hottest girl on the planet then! When Alizée gets about 40 years old she'll look back and say, "Damn! I was the hottest thing, wasn't I." And I'll say, "Damn Straight!!" And she'll look back and know that Mylène and Laurent made it all happen.

[Scruffydog777]

She is doing what she wants to do, going where her muse leads, and if that means not as many people will get it, and she won't be the huge success she was in the past, but must be content with a lower level of fame, she seems OK with that, and that means I am, too.


Is cancelling concerts what she wants to do? I thought if she had included some of her earlier songs in their original format, at the Rex concerts, more people would have been willing to go. I think what would make her truely content, is to be able to have a successful concert at a theater of similar size to the Rex. She doesn't care if there's any more than that. One successful concert in her home country is all she wants.

But right now, even though the album has only been out a few weeks, it looks like it's not exactly burning up the charts in France and if the people of France aren't crazy about this album, it probably wouldn't matter how many songs she included from her first two albums, even if they were in their un-re-orchestrated form. It's the new songs that will initially get people interested in going to a concert.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Look, she would have to do old songs if she did do a concert. UEdS is 36 minutes long. Institubes is a business. They are out to make money. If Alizée refuses to do old songs (possible), and limits the concert to just UEdS, they would cancel rather than put on a 36 minute show. I guarantee it. They would lose face for presenting such a short show, even if it was Alizée's choice. So think of it like this: if she does a UEdS concert, it will have to include old songs in order to be worth the money. Take that how you will. I loved the '08 JEAM, and would be interested to see a '10 JEAM. And ML. But I don't at all expect the dance, and would never request she do it, were the oppurtunity presented. Just again, remember: A UEDS ERA CONCERT (IF THERE IS ONE) WILL HAVE TO HAVE OLD SONGS, TO BE LONG ENOUGH FOR THE EXPENSE! If people went to one show, and saw it was half an hour, they would infuence others not to go, and Institubes would lose thousands.

[Aaronius31]

Hmmm....this would really blow if she never did a song from Gour,MCE, or Psych again....and there is a good chance that will happen:( except JEAM for the Mexican fans

[HelixSix]

Songs from Psych are an entirely different thing. She had massive input on that album and it is fairly recent.

Take 5 songs from Psych and a few others like her La Isla Bonita remake and that would make a full concert.

[Aaronius31]

Songs from Psych are an entirely different thing. She had massive input on that album and it is fairly recent.

Take 5 songs from Psych and a few others like her La Isla Bonita remake and that would make a full concert.

Ahh...That is a good idea...

Yah I guess since she did some songs not on Psych in Meico thta she could do songs not on UEDS in Mexico to...But that would just be weird, she would prob do some non up-beat version of Fifty Sixty...i dunno, Flappers and MAdJuliette just don't mix...

[MYGOGT]

I think there are plenty of songs she can do, to fill an hour, with ueds. And I think she will.

[Aaronius31]

Yah with all the talking and setting up she can easily take up an 2 hours with UEDS. Then she could please the Mexicans with La Isla Bonita and other Psych songs....and JEAM of corse:wub:

[Fèvier]

I think there are plenty of songs she can do, to fill an hour, with ueds. And I think she will.

well she does sing songs from other artists. For example:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaJciPmxZ_Y

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwI-O6rzuSk

this post took me the longest due to the fact that as I looked up the video I just had to watch it the whole way through :wub::rolleyes:

[Deepwaters]

She's ok now but there is no denying that she was the hottest girl on the planet then!

She is, in my opinion, a lot more desirable now than when she was 18. I suggest this is an adult perspective, in which sex appeal is at least 50% mental. Physically, she's just as appealing now as when she was 18, no more so really, but mentally, she's much more appealing because she's more interesting. She's gone through more. She'd be more fun to talk to. She has more perspective on life.

Scruffy, Alizée is in a different position from a lot of other artists, because she got this artificial early start as a teenager. In a very real sense, UEDS is not her fourth but her second album. She is not continuing her career, she is building it from scratch -- with name-recognition advantage that most artists would kill for.

No, I'm sure she doesn't want to cancel concerts (although I still think there was a reason for that which hasn't been revealed, and may never be, and that it wasn't due to slow ticket sales alone), but I am also sure that returning to the old music in the old style is simply not an option. If you argue that she would be more immediately successful that way than doing things her way, even assuming that is true (which is dubious), her response would almost certainly be: I don't care.

I don't think she does. Not that she doesn't want to be a success, but she wants to be a success on her own terms, as herself, singing what she wants to sing -- or not at all. She will not go back to the old style because it's not her, and the argument that she would be more successful doing so is not enough to outweigh the fact that it's not her. Ideally, she would like to be artistically true to herself and a big success both, but if that's not possible, she won't choose commercial success over artistic integrity.

For one thing, she doesn't need to. I suspect that she could retire today and live in obscure comfort off the proceeds of her first two albums for the rest of her life. So as long as any current or future efforts at least break even, she's fine financially. She doesn't need to be a mega-star again. Nor does it sound to me from things she's said in interviews as if she expects to be. And that's cool. I wish for her as much success as she wants. It would be pointless to wish more than that.

[Aaronius31]

this post took me the longest due to the fact that as I looked up the video I just had to watch it the whole way through :wub::rolleyes:

Hahaha I always do that with her videos...no one can resiste. And yah htanks for the videos! Yah she should definitely sing some other songs from other artists...

[sumi1]

well she does sing songs from other artists. For example:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwI-O6rzuSk


Aah...the great "Everybody" video:wub::wub::wub:

[Aaronius31]

I thought the Sound of Silence video had the part at the start where she said, "I sing this song since (how do you say) a little girl..." but this one is different!!!

[Fèvier]

I thought the Sound of Silence video had the part at the start where she said, "I sing this song since (how do you say) a little girl..." but this one is different!!!

here's another version
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__W0UMfwVU4

this has great sound quality. no intro but it includes L'Effet
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KywRpZG_tNI

I think this is what you meant. The camera guy is annoying as hell though
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69oU6LfyQ_4&feature=related

and yes this took me a few minutes as well :D

[Aaronius31]

OMA thanks for all those!!! I forgot she did several concerts so there would be several versions...THANKYOU SO MUCH!!! I love all of them:wub:

[Roman]

Guadalajara was the best. I don't know if there's a video of that.

Anyway, when she did her concerts in 2003, she did only her songs and only left out two. So, that is interesting because she was actually still fairly new at the time, only around for 4 years or less, and no one could really complain about which songs she performed. By 2008, with three albums, there was a lot more selection of this and that and interestingly enough she included 2 or 3 songs not even from her albums. So, now, 4 albums, all kinds of different sounds, there's so much to choose from. They can really just make a show that is good that doesn't necessarily conform to anything in particular. I think Alizée should have created a web page that shows her entire discography in some portion of her site. It seems like she's totally divorced from everything she ever did if you look at her web site. So, it would not surprise me to find a show that has older songs, yet is it's own thing. Hey, as long as it's a good show, I don't care anymore.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Alizée concert=epic awesomeness by default. Also, what two songs did she leave out of the 2003-04 perfomances? I thought 4: Abracadabra, AQRUJF, VVV, and CDP? If she did VVV live and I missed it, I WILL KILL!:MAD: Lol kidding, but no, really someone will die... You guys must have thought to tell me, you know, the guy you call VVV, or V, or (why?) VVVA for short? I have even started using V With close frends. Though most don't know why.

[Aaronius31]

Sadly she never performed one of the more great/solid songs on Gourmandises which is VVV and is fighting for the top place on my charts...

[Fall06]

I really wish she had done VVV back in En Concert and ÀCC in the Psych shows :(
I hope she does at least ÀCC in the next tour, as well as her all her new songs

[Roman]

Alizée concert=epic awesomeness by default. Also, what two songs did she leave out of the 2003-04 perfomances? I thought 4: Abracadabra, AQRUJF, VVV, and CDP? If she did VVV live and I missed it, I WILL KILL!:MAD: Lol kidding, but no, really someone will die... You guys must have thought to tell me, you know, the guy you call VVV, or V, or (why?) VVVA for short? I have even started using V With close frends. Though most don't know why.
Wait a minute. Did I lie? Uh... ok, looks like she only did 17 songs looking at the back of the En Concert package. Nevermind. Anyway. Um. Buy the en concert DVD and you can tell me.
Oh and she did L'Alizé in Moscow though it was strangely reorchestrated, but I never got to see any performance and that's probably my second favorite song; so, yeah, I wish I could have seen every different Alizée concert.

[paintballpdh19]

Aah...the great "Everybody" video:wub::wub::wub:

omg! almost as cute as the nose scrunchy thing :wub:

[Aaronius31]

omg! almost as cute as the nose scrunchy thing :wub:

My mission today is to make that thread and folder with all the pics...starting now:D

[MYGOGT]

Will she JEAM again? She does on her GOOM radio site, which is why I believe she will perform some older songs at a live performance if/when it happens.

[Lucian_RO]

I like that she isn't doing the JEAM dance in the sailor suit anymore, because while most female singers show more and more skin, she is their exact opposite (no Seinfeld reference intended) so it's why I like her so much.

One thing that I'd like her to do is stop lip-syncing. She did it before because it's impossible to sing and dance at the same time, but she's got no more excuse for it.

[Fenris]

One thing that I'd like her to do is stop lip-syncing. She did it before because it's impossible to sing and dance at the same time, but she's got no more excuse for it.

Lip-synching is pretty common on TV. Ofc it is possible to sing and dance at the same time, she did it with good results in en concert.
Other artists do it too, just watch a Mylène Farmer concert for example.
But you have to be in a top condition and trained to do it properly.
Guess she didn't train her voice that much after she got her baby.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I have been thinking long and hard about why a woman whose orginal passion was dance (very evident in certain videos!) would suddenly decide that, after childbirth, she no longer wanted to dance. Despite the fact she seems to have retaned her figure. Then, it hit me. Why did I, whose mother experienced it twice, not think of this sooner? Think: Alizée is a very small woman. And we have no info on the earliest days of Annily's life. We have practically none, sans her dob (which I respect and agree with Alizée's decision with that). So, how can we be sure Annily was born traditonally? What if Alizée was so small, she required a cecarion (sp?) section, to be able to bear a child? Duh! This would explain her lack of dancing! C-section scars take years to heal. So 1- she probably wouldn't want people to see it, 2- this would damage her abs, almost beyond repair, severely limiting her dancing ability. I just think this is a very possible, if not entirely probable, explanation. Anybody agree?

[sumi1]

I don't think so. There were some good performances in Psych era. The only reason that I can think of is that dancing just does not go well with UEDS theme :)

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

But it would explain the far toned down dancing. And the negligence of exposure of her midriff. Yes, she did still dance, but only about half the time; most of it was not even really dancing, and how many times did she do MJ on a couch? She never danced expect once or twice. She should have done far more dancing for MJ, it is pretty much strictly a dance song. And you would be very hard pressed to find a picture of her stomach since En Concert. It isn't entirely impossble. Does anybody have any good evidence against it? I may have missed a picture somewhere. But my reasoning is not as crazy as it may seem. Just read it over again: she won't show her stomach at all (where she used to quite often), she does very little dancing for a dance song (where she used to dance for everything), she is quite petite (Annily's birth may have put too much strain on her body if she was on time, or possibly smewhat late), and we have no info from 2005, when she was born. It isn't impossible.

Edit:

Well, after checking around wikipedia, I found nothing on the caesarean section page to do with France. Though it did confirm one thing: most are performed below the 'bikini line', like I thought. I am going to search google, see if I can do some worthwhile research. Wiki mentioned many eastern European countries, but never France, Spain, Portugal, or anywhere but Britain. Anybody already know anything about it?

[Aaronius31]

VVV: Although this might have been altered to hide a supposed scar that she might have, she still is showing her abs and looks great...

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/466/2r3yys4.jpg
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[paintballpdh19]

VVV: Although this might have been altered to hide a supposed scar that she might have, she still is showing her abs and looks great...

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/466/2r3yys4.jpg
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yeah you cant tell anything from this pic... no disrespect though. today you can do almost anything with a picture and make it look totally real.

[Aaronius31]

yeah you cant tell anything from this pic... no disrespect though. today you can do almost anything with a picture and make it look totally real.

Yeah, and based on the sickly fake photoshooters that tamper with pictures like crazy, I bet that isn't even her haha jk

But if those are her abs, then man she is looking just as good as those JEAM days:wub:

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Well, a c-section scar wouldn't be directly visble, it would be far lower than Alizée would ever show.

[Merci Alizée]

Well, a c-section scar wouldn't be directly visble, it would be far lower than Alizée would ever show.

Whatever be the case with her, it's not of our concern. This is her personal matter and I think we should not discuss it.

Not trying to say anything against anyone, but my suggestion would be to keep our discussion limited to her work only and not try to go into details of what has happened to her body.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I just wanted to point out a possible explanation. But a lot of people seem to be against discussing it. And after thinking about it a while, I figure Alizée would probably be embarrassed at least, or offended and angry at most, were we to continue this. So, let's just end it. Sorry, Alizée! :'(

[Merci Alizée]

I just wanted to point out a possible explanation. But a lot of people seem to be against discussing it. And after thinking about it a while, I figure Alizée would probably be embarrassed at least, or offended and angry at most, were we to continue this. So, let's just end it. Sorry, Alizée! :'(

I understand your views VVV. No one tries to say anything against her here. I was expecting this reply from you. It happens because we are so much attached to her. She has became part of our life, at least in our minds. We should understand that we are not personally related to her. Even those who are personally related, don't discuss such things. I hope that all of us here understand what I'm trying to say and they will think about it before posting about these things.

Once again, I am not trying to say that you were wrong or something like that.

[Aaronius31]

Yep I remember a thread a while ago that turned into a c-section thread. So I say even if it has some importance that if you want to talk about it talk over PM'ing. This isn't the place for it...

[Roman]

I like that she isn't doing the JEAM dance in the sailor suit anymore, because while most female singers show more and more skin, she is their exact opposite (no Seinfeld reference intended) so it's why I like her so much.Well good for you! :p:rolleyes:

One thing that I'd like her to do is stop lip-syncing. She did it before because it's impossible to sing and dance at the same time, but she's got no more excuse for it.No worries there. In case you hadn't noticed, she's not really performing at all anymore. And like Fenris said, sometimes the tv show or circumstances demands it.

[babyblue558]

Hrm I think she'll definitely perform JEAM at any future concerts (cmon it was one of her most successful songs and it would be a really bad decision not to!) but I imagine she'll (re)reinvent it to arrive at a version of the song that fits with her current electro theme and is totally different from both the original and the version performed at the Psychédélices concerts.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Once again, if she did a concert, she would be required to do old songs, UEDS is 36 mins, that would never mae a good concert. So either do old songs, or do an hour of other people's songs.

[Merci Alizée]

Once again, if she did a concert, she would be required to do old songs, UEDS is 36 mins, that would never mae a good concert. So either do old songs, or do an hour of other people's songs.

She has more options now. She can choose songs from 4 albums. I'm now interested in her choice of the songs now.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Exactly! Though, with more songs, means more singles. She will most likely only do singles for this concert. The only reason she did Hey ! Amigo ! in the Mexican concerts is because, well, there were three or four lines of Spanish. And it was way different, too. Earlier concerts in an artists career, like her 03-04 one, don't have as many singles yet, so they get to do more non-singles. But towards the later parts of a career, artists are expected to sing singles. Which means we miss other nonsingle songs. Singles will always be sung, on tv performances, if nothing else. But nonsingles only are done in concerts. So if they have a ton of singles (10 so far, maybe 11 by the time she may do concerts), then those ten will be chosen, and the spaces will be filled in by other songs. Earlier concerts in a career are always the best, because they AREN'T limited to singles.

[Aaronius31]

So VVV you think she will do her singles for her concert tour?(L'alize, Moi...Lolita, Les Collines, Mademoiselle Juliette, etc.)

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Maybe not L'alizé, maybe not PTB, maybe not, ÀCC, maybe not MJ. But she would have to do some old songs. In fact, I am honestly starting to doubt the likelyhood that she will even do a concert. She may be past that part of her career. We should consider that possibility. It is a negative thought of the worst kind. But it should not be ignored. She may never sing JEAM live again. Especially after yesterday's revelation she would be on m6 just fo an interview, not a performance.

[sumi1]

Given the poor performance of UEDS, even I think that we will not have any concerts in the near future. If people are not ready to buy her album, they are not going to spend hundreds of euros for concert tickets.:(:(:(

[MYGOGT]

My thought on this is she will probably do small venues with a thousand or a lot less people. The big light show concert era appears to be over for her.

[sumi1]

My thought on this is she will probably do small venues with a thousand or a lot less people. The big light show concert era appears to be over for her.

Unfortunately, yes. It is so sad to see what the World has become. People do not appreciate good things any more :(

[Rev]

She has more options now. She can choose songs from 4 albums. I'm now interested in her choice of the songs now.

Expect all of the 4th, most of the third, a few from 1 and 2 and maybe a surprise or two.

My thought on this is she will probably do small venues with a thousand or a lot less people. The big light show concert era appears to be over for her.

As much as i would like to see her do a smaller venue, I think she prefers to do larger ones. There may be reasons why she feels she cannot do smaller ones, or she may simply like the larger venues.

[Aaronius31]

AHHHH!!!! based on what REV just said I am super excited!!! I wonder if she will disappoint us and only do them from Psych and UEDS to venture away from Myleney-Lolita. But she can't disappoint me at all:wub:

[Jurre]

People do not appreciate good things any more :(Did they ever :rolleyes:

[Tchaikovsky]

Let me answer your question with another question. Will she Lolita again?

[Aaronius31]

Let me answer your question with another question. Will she Lolita again?

Hope she won't, and that's even more out of the question than JEAM'n haha. I wouldn't want her to put the http://i37.tinypic.com/16gwtbd.jpg style on again since it will just ruin the whole authenticity that makes her early years golden...so no I don't want Lolita back since it would just ruin everything in some way. But I would just like her to SING those songs and that would be fine since they don't have the same meaning of her early years...

READ MY POST AND STOP LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE!!!haha

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Once agai, your attempts to distract me with images have failed!

[Eldrick]

Worked on me!

[Jalen]

Whatever be the case with her, it's not of our concern. This is her personal matter and I think we should not discuss it.

Sir, I applaud you.

Edit:


As much as i would like to see her do a smaller venue, I think she prefers to do larger ones. There may be reasons why she feels she cannot do smaller ones, or she may simply like the larger venues.

It's actually for her and the audience's safety. All small buildings are not structurally sound enough to handle and contain the awesomeness of Her Grace and Beauty.

[Aaronius31]

It's actually for her and the audience's safety. All small buildings are not structurally sound enough to handle and contain the awesomeness of Her Grace and Beauty.

Sir, I applaud you.

[Orion]

If she were still putting out an album close to Psychédélices, then I would be open for a chance that she would SOME DAY perform JEAM, but with the drastic change in style right now, it would simply be too contrasty to perform. I remember complaining with Psych that she was performing TOOO many old songs and not enough NEW ones. Too many remixed JEAMs et al, and not enough focus on the current trend with Psych. ANd when she performed those songs less that acceptable in some cases, it just ruined that whole aura for her . . especially when she performed ML on that whacky show . . . . blah.

I seriously think that she should just focus on her current work for now, and leave the past where it is . . . . . for now ;). IF she can manage a good remixing of some of her old material WITHOUT ruining the aura/sound of it, then it would be ok . . . . but if the past is any indication, I would say that she should leave that for a special edition album, when some anniversary edition stirs the promo god's imagination.

. . . . as for the dancing, fugetaboutit!

[Roman]

Once agai, your attempts to distract me with images have failed! I'M DISTRACTED!
But yeah, she'll probably do Moi... Lolita too since it's special for her in any case. She always says that. Though yeah, I think if she does do any concerts she needs to just concentrate on making them good this time and less on representing certain favorite songs. It's so long after her previous eras, I don't know if they matter as much anymore.

And I agree with VVV about later career concerts vs. early ones. If she was performing like in the early days or even 2008, we would hear the singles so much that it would be a real treat to go to a concert just to hear a live performance of her other songs, but there's all the pressure to perform what is assumed to be the popular songs - the singles. Just prepare well and sing good songs so people are moved and have fun. Do that a lot and you have yourself a career as a singer.

[Aaronius31]

And I agree with VVV about later career concerts vs. early ones. If she was performing like in the early days or even 2008, we would hear the singles so much that it would be a real treat to go to a concert just to hear a live performance of her other songs, but there's all the pressure to perform what is assumed to be the popular songs - the singles. Just prepare well and sing good songs so people are moved and have fun. Do that a lot and you have yourself a career as a singer.

That sounds good. Yah it sounds like her later career concerts will be more fun based on this information...

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I said I was not distracted because images do not show up for me. They show up as dl links, I click the link and it dl's the picture to my phone and shows it briefly before returning to the page.

[Aaronius31]

Exactly how she would look if she did JEAM again in the suit for all those who think it would be better(The Mylene Lovers:rolleyes:):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teuCL9nm5a0&feature=player_embedded#!
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[Junkmale]

Same girl, different song.
Yep, she is really good.

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[Merci Alizée]

Same girl, different song.
Yep, she is really good.

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This one is also very good. I have seen very bad JVPA dance by some other people. She is a fan and really likes her dance.

[Aaronius31]

Man I like how that girl doesn't dance like a robot like Alizee's backup dancers for JEAM En Concert and JPVA...those girls were just creepy and smiled like it was really fake

[Merci Alizée]

Man I like how that girl doesn't dance like a robot like Alizee's backup dancers for JEAM En Concert and JPVA...those girls were just creepy and smiled like it was really fake

That's what they are instructed to do.

[SilentFox]

Nice girl, but she dances to JEAM better to me

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I have seen other girls do the JEAM before. One was a wierdly thin blonde girl. Who looked like she was trying far too hard to be far too sexy. And it wasn't. It was tacky, to say the least. I didn't even fínish her vid. But this girl, she was really good. Very natural. She must have practiced a LOT. A whole freaking lot. Too bad Alizée herself disliked either the video, or whatever, she deleted it from her fb, when the girls posted it there.

Edit:

Can someone post a direct link to the jpva one on youtube? I can't view embedded videos.

[Merci Alizée]

I have seen other girls do the JEAM before. One was a wierdly thin blonde girl. Who looked like she was trying far too hard to be far too sexy. And it wasn't. It was tacky, to say the least. I didn't even fínish her vid. But this girl, she was really good. Very natural. She must have practiced a LOT. A whole freaking lot. Too bad Alizée herself disliked either the video, or whatever, she deleted it from her fb, when the girls posted it there.

Edit:

Can someone post a direct link to the jpva one on youtube? I can't view embedded videos.

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ph1B8Wghso&feature=player_embedded

Yes she really danced well in both of the videos.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Merci, merci!

[paintballpdh19]

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ph1B8Wghso&feature=player_embedded

Yes she really danced well in both of the videos.

again here also... it is a good take on it but there will only EVER be on person who can pull it off :wub:

[Aaronius31]

again here also... it is a good take on it but there will only EVER be on person who can pull it off :wub:

agreed again:D Man Alizee is amazing!!!ahhhh!!!! En Concert tomorrow....must watch it!

[Människöpesten]

agreed again:D Man Alizee is amazing!!!ahhhh!!!! En Concert tomorrow....must watch it!

i just bought that. finally. been beating around the bush about it.

[Merci Alizée]

i just bought that. finally. been beating around the bush about it.

Great! Now you have one of the best things related to her. Enjoy! :)

[Människöpesten]

i will i get bored of watching random music videos for her/other bands

[Fall06]

i will i get bored of watching random music videos for her/other bands
For me it's quite the opposite, when I'm bored I go watch some music videos. Kinda takes me back to the very early days of being a fan :wub::D
Also, congrats on your purchase dude, enjoy. See how long you can resist the urge of singing along or something :p

[HelixSix]

Nice girl, but she dances to JEAM better to me
Yeah she does JEAM really well. But in JPVA she isn't quick enough with her arm movements amongst other things and is constantly wiping the hair away from her face. Plus she could use a bigger room.

This is why JPVA is my favorite song and performance. Alizée was quick with her movements while making it look smooth and not rigid at all.

[Aaronius31]

Yeah she does JEAM really well. But in JPVA she isn't quick enough with her arm movements amongst other things and is constantly wiping the hair away from her face. Plus she could use a bigger room.

This is why JPVA is my favorite song and performance. Alizée was quick with her movements while making it look smooth and not rigid at all.

hahaha love your sig:D

And yah she is really good but she could perfect some areas of the dance...

Edit:

i just bought that. finally. been beating around the bush about it.

YAY MANNI!!! Congrats on the best purchase ever!!!

[SilentFox]

Yeah she does JEAM really well. But in JPVA she isn't quick enough with her arm movements amongst other things and is constantly wiping the hair away from her face. Plus she could use a bigger room.

This is why JPVA is my favorite song and performance. Alizée was quick with her movements while making it look smooth and not rigid at all.

Yea you got a point with some more room it would have been a lot better, but here's another video on a different girl dancing to JEAM sorry if its a re post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6OJt-86DMM&playnext_from=TL&videos=bj0Ffsc3hqE

[RobandSandy]

Very nice.

[Människöpesten]

thaaanks aaron, i gotta wait till saturday to get it and i'll be downtown ALL day D:

[Aaronius31]

Oh my goodness, although it's a bit different from the original JEAM, wow this girl doesn't look bad at all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3ms-g_xuo&feature=related

And now I just have to say....BACK ON TOPIC!!!!

So yah any other opinions on if Alizee will sing JEAM again?

[Merci Alizée]

Oh my goodness, although it's a bit different from the original JEAM, wow this girl doesn't look bad at all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3ms-g_xuo&feature=related

And now I just have to say....BACK ON TOPIC!!!!

So yah any other opinions on if Alizee will sing JEAM again?

If she has to choose songs from her old days, then she will definitely sing it.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Will she sing JEAM again? First: why just this particular song? Second: only if she does another concert. Then it is a very high chance. Will she dance JEAM again? No. Period, end of story.

[Människöpesten]

watch her just do the dance out of the blue on tv, with no music.

[Aaronius31]

Will she sing JEAM again? First: why just this particular song? Second: only if she does another concert. Then it is a very high chance. Will she dance JEAM again? No. Period, end of story.

Agreed....except, VVV, this song is what made her known to her biggest fanbase(Mexico), and so if she does this, they will hold on to her no matter what. But if she doesn't do it, then they will only think of her as God's wife:D

[Roman]

Exactly how she would look if she did JEAM again in the suit for all those who think it would be better(The Mylene Lovers:rolleyes:):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teuCL9nm5a0&feature=player_embedded#!
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No way! That is the best non-Alizée performance I have ever seen. She gets very close and that next one posted here, I've seen that too and she's second best perhaps. I don't think anyone can really improve on the dance. They need to just stick to attempting to imitate Alizée.

Yeah, it reminds me why I liked Alizée so much back in the day. It's just a great dance and great song. If she did that again, a different song and dance, but still something very good like that, I think she would do well. Unfortunately, I think Alizée has come to have bad assocations with that song and dance. That's why it was so much better when it was new. She didn't see anything wrong with it and just had a good time with it. I think she got burned out on all that too, though. She did so many performances and then just think 42 times in concert, not to mention all of the practice. All in one year. Can you imagine how many times Alizée had to go through that routine? I think that all of that work without enough return on the investment killed her career, killed her drive. She just couldn't do it anymore and didn't even like the songs all that much. I don't know. She has plenty of other reasons for leaving it. I suppose it's just everything put together.

[Scruffydog777]

Yeah, it reminds me why I liked Alizée so much back in the day. It's just a great dance and great song. If she did that again, a different song and dance, but still something very good like that, I think she would do well.

It was a great dance. ML was a great dance too. But this performance of ML shows she doesn't have to do the ML dance again to look increadily beautiful and so too it would be with JAM.

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[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I assume most of what you said is right, roman. Same for JPVA dance. Heck, with all the live performances, she may have never needed practice!

[Fall06]

I agree, I think the reason why there weren't as many performances of ÀCC was because she sick and tired from doing the JEAM and JPVA ones :(

[Roman]

I agree, I think the reason why there weren't as many performances of ÀCC was because she sick and tired from doing the JEAM and JPVA ones :(
Yeah, I think it just points to the obviousness of what it takes to get attention and make sales, of albums and concert tickets. And it's just what she has not done with the last two albums.
It would be great (for her) if simply having good music was enough, but good compared to what? I guess even though we like it, most people don't.

[Junkmale]

Well, the Rolling Stones still play Satisfaction and have been doing so on every tour for almost 50 years now.....(as just one example).
To be a sucess you have to 'give the people what they want' sometimes?

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Good point, junk.

[Rev]

There is no reason why she can't do the original version of Moi Lolita. It's obviously a great song, and people know it.

She has now put the past somewhat behind her. No reason why she can't begin to incorporate her past into her present.

Only please, don't change it, use the original version. :)

[Roman]

The thing that's different about all of this is that it wasn't Alizée's music that she came up with. She participated like an actress. Now, sure, some actors, like those in Star Trek, still play on those roles that they did decades ago and were famous for, but I guess Alizée didn't see it that way. She was pretty young for one thing and didn't have any peers involved in the same endeavor for another. So, her situation was different. I guess that doesn't matter though for what the people want, just for what feels right to her.

[HelixSix]

Well, the Rolling Stones still play Satisfaction and have been doing so on every tour for almost 50 years now.....(as just one example).
To be a sucess you have to 'give the people what they want' sometimes?
She is trying to make it on her own and move past the the Mylene induced lolita image. She would basically be selling her dignity and all the progress she's made. I don't think she'd do it even if she was desperate for money.

So should she live her life and focus on what she wants or succumb to overly greedy fans and what they want?

And if she did do JEAM again do people honestly think it is going to compare to how it was then? It would sound different, her clothes and appearance would be very different and her heart would not be in it.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Wow, so pessimistic! I think this discussion has reached its climax. I have given my opinion, I think it is the arguement for why she will sing JEAM again. But there are good arguements against it, too. How about this: we not worry about it, and if she does it again, then she does, and if not, then she doesn't. Either way, I have never been to concert, let alone an Alizée concert, so if she does a concert I can reach, I will go, no matter whether JEAM is included.

[Merci Alizée]

She is trying to make it on her own and move past the the Mylene induced lolita image. She would basically be selling her dignity and all the progress she's made. I don't think she'd do it even if she was desperate for money.

So should she live her life and focus on what she wants or succumb to overly greedy fans and what they want?

And if she did do JEAM again do people honestly think it is going to compare to how it was then? It would sound different, her clothes and appearance would be very different and her heart would not be in it.

That's a very good point. If she does JEAM, then it would remind people of old days and they would compare both. We know what happened in Mexico. People were expecting the her that old image and they were disappointed when they saw something different.

Wow, so pessimistic! I think this discussion has reached its climax. I have given my opinion, I think it is the arguement for why she will sing JEAM again. But there are good arguements against it, too. How about this: we not worry about it, and if she does it again, then she does, and if not, then she doesn't. Either way, I have never been to concert, let alone an Alizée concert, so if she does a concert I can reach, I will go, no matter whether JEAM is included.

Yes, whether she chooses JEAM or not, her concert would be a good one to attend.

[Människöpesten]

look at any artist: they vary their set list but still play/perform their most popular songs. at a concert, i'm sure she'd still perform her most popular numbers, which includes JEAM.

[Aaronius31]

look at any artist: they vary their set list but still play/perform their most popular songs. at a concert, i'm sure she'd still perform her most popular numbers, which includes JEAM.

Agreed....she should definitely succumb to her greedy fans as HelixSix said was an option. And it's not really doing it for her fans, if she does in then she will also enjoy it, hence why she would do the song. So yah....

[AceTone]

This is probably the closest you'll get to see her doing the Jeam again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirXJ5TuzGY#t=2m45s



http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3164/alizeenhitm315032008bysqs4.jpg

[Fall06]

This is probably the closest you'll get to see her doing the Jeam again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirXJ5TuzGY#t=2m45s



http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3164/alizeenhitm315032008bysqs4.jpg
I saw that video a while ago. I don't know who she is, but the interviewer seemed a little disrespectful from the things she said.
Perhaps someone could say if she was being disrespectful or if that's just the way she, or most interviewers act. :cool:

[outlaw]

uh, isnt she doing that song a little 2 death? there's a reason people say im fed up lol :P.

oh yah greetings my bros, and sis's of AA, outlaws back wit a new location: aloha!

[Människöpesten]

uh, isnt she doing that song a little 2 death? there's a reason people say im fed up lol :P.

oh yah greetings my bros, and sis's of AA, outlaws back wit a new location: aloha!

LOLNO :rolleyes:

[Chuck]

The thing that's different about all of this is that it wasn't Alizée's music that she came up with. She participated like an actress. Now, sure, some actors, like those in Star Trek, still play on those roles that they did decades ago and were famous for, but I guess Alizée didn't see it that way. She was pretty young for one thing and didn't have any peers involved in the same endeavor for another. So, her situation was different. I guess that doesn't matter though for what the people want, just for what feels right to her.

Roman, when you refer to Star Trek actors still doing the same roles, do you mean like when they show up at those sci-fi fan conventions to make a couple bucks? Isn't that just the most pathetic thing in the galaxy? :confused:

She is trying to make it on her own and move past the the Mylene induced lolita image. She would basically be selling her dignity and all the progress she's made. I don't think she'd do it even if she was desperate for money.

So should she live her life and focus on what she wants or succumb to overly greedy fans and what they want?

And if she did do JEAM again do people honestly think it is going to compare to how it was then? It would sound different, her clothes and appearance would be very different and her heart would not be in it.

Good answer, Helix, I totally and heartily agree! :D

That's a very good point. If she does JEAM, then it would remind people of old days and they would compare both. We know what happened in Mexico. People were expecting the her that old image and they were disappointed when they saw something different.
Yes, whether she chooses JEAM or not, her concert would be a good one to attend.

Merci, Merci Alizée! Hiya! :):)

uh, isnt she doing that song a little 2 death? there's a reason people say im fed up lol :P.

oh yah greetings my bros, and sis's of AA, outlaws back wit a new location: aloha!

Right on, Outlaw. Are you in the pineapple state now? If so, wow! Way t'go!


Ultimately, the "Acoustic" performance of JEAM impressed me as being Lili's farewell version of the song. My humble opinion is a very confident NO, she will never again don the sailor suit for this song, nor will she ever do the "night elf" dance again, either. That's what youtube's for, so people should go watch the old performances there if that's what they're really hung up on. Or, better yet, they should invent a nice personal time machine, cause they're already livin' in the past. Meanwhile Alizée's been trying her hardest to reestablish herself as an artist of the present, and (hopefully) the future.

How come no one's clamoring for her to do "I'm Not Twenty" again? Because I think you all realize that it would appear ridiculous. The same would apply to this song as well.

[Människöpesten]

How come no one's clamoring for her to do "I'm Not Twenty" again? Because I think you all realize that it would appear ridiculous. The same would apply to this song as well.

self explanatory.

[babyblue558]

She is trying to make it on her own and move past the the Mylene induced lolita image. She would basically be selling her dignity and all the progress she's made. I don't think she'd do it even if she was desperate for money.

So should she live her life and focus on what she wants or succumb to overly greedy fans and what they want?

And if she did do JEAM again do people honestly think it is going to compare to how it was then? It would sound different, her clothes and appearance would be very different and her heart would not be in it.

Exactly! Very, very good point there... the only way we will see JEAM again in the future is in a radically altered version (like the one she performed on the acoustic show a couple of years ago). This way she can come to a compromise in order to satisfy the fans who want to hear one of their favourite songs again, but also not revert back to the Lolita image she has tried so hard to distance herself from these past years. Although I, like most people on his forum I imagine, prefer the original JEAM to the subsequent Psyhédélices remastering, I understand totally why she feels she wants to perform it in such a radically different way. Anyone who still wishes she would perform it in the boots with the dance needs to accept that she's a grown woman now, and like Helix said, seeing her perform the song in the original style wouldn't compare to how she did it in 2003, and wouldn't feel right at all- for both her and her fans.

[Aaronius31]

Well, this was quite an amazing thread earlier this year. And I found it while trying to find the thread for my 3000th post...and so hopefully this bump will help some newer people read it. Hope you enjoy :)

Post #4,000 :D

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One of Scruff's best vids right there :wub:

[Bigdan]

My humble opinion is a very confident NO, she will never again don the sailor suit for this song, nor will she ever do the "night elf" dance again, either.

Except in a private show for Jeremy...:D


:o

[Aaronius31]

Except in a private show for Jeremy...:D


:o

We all know that haha :D

[Aayush]

Except in a private show for Jeremy...:D

might be teaching to Annily ;)

Edit:

So will she JEAM again in Les Enfoirés 2011 ?

[Naft]

might be teaching to Annily ;)

Edit:

So will she JEAM again in Les Enfoirés 2011 ?

I'm not set into this, but even if she does I doubt it'll be with the dress and high shoes. It'll be more like the acoustic version that she did recently (2006-2007?) but with more of "it".

As much as I'd like to see her do it one final time I think she's put the dress and shoes in the closet to stay there.

[Aaronius31]

Yah you are right Naft. Hopefully she does it for her tour and it will be an electro version :)

[babyblue558]

I guess we know the answer to this now :D I'm surprised she performed the original version, even more with (more or less) the original dance! We'll have to wait til the 1st of July to see how much she looks like she's enjoying it. ;)

[Naft]

I guess we know the answer to this now :D I'm surprised she performed the original version, even more with (more or less) the original dance! We'll have to wait til the 1st of July to see how much she looks like she's enjoying it. ;)
:eek::wub:

Now I have to wait all summer. http://img.jjbgroupinc.netdna-cdn.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif

[Aaronius31]

I guess we know the answer to this now :D I'm surprised she performed the original version, even more with (more or less) the original dance! We'll have to wait til the 1st of July to see how much she looks like she's enjoying it. ;)

So we were right! She did JEAM again :D Thanks for bumpin it BB :D

[Deepwaters]

I guess we know the answer to this now :D I'm surprised she performed the original version, even more with (more or less) the original dance!


I'm not. It appears from the rumor mill that she's going back to her roots and doing pop with movement, rather than experimenting with totally new directions. I think that's smart, if what she wants is to be a commercial success with her next album. The new versions were attempts to put her old hits to new formats and sounds, and honestly I don't think they ever quite worked. If she's going to sing her old songs, singing them the way she did before is the way to do it.

The clip we saw was not very good (I mean, all the fans singing along, I couldn't hear Alizée's voice, and that's the one I would want to hear), but I could see that the dance was the same one, but it seemed more elegant, more grown-up, more -- I don't know. Maybe it's the clothes. No sailor suit this time. Plenty sexy, but not so much exposed skin. Less blatant.


We'll have to wait til the 1st of July to see how much she looks like she's enjoying it. ;)

That we will, but my feeling is that she's enjoying it a lot. I also have a feeling this is preparing the ground for her new album, getting people acquainted with her again as a performer.

[babyblue558]

I'm not. It appears from the rumor mill that she's going back to her roots and doing pop with movement, rather than experimenting with totally new directions. I think that's smart, if what she wants is to be a commercial success with her next album. The new versions were attempts to put her old hits to new formats and sounds, and honestly I don't think they ever quite worked. If she's going to sing her old songs, singing them the way she did before is the way to do it.

I was very surprised because it seems recently she's been doing all she can to distance herself from the image of the first 2 albums (eg performing new arrangements of old songs, no dancing) so a change of attitude such as this took me unawares. But as you say, it's probably a good move as these are the songs, arrangements and dances she's best remembered for and if she wants to stay current in France the only way possible (at the moment) may be to continue milking past successes. That is UNTIL she gets the formula right with a new album that's a decent hit.

The clip we saw was not very good (I mean, all the fans singing along, I couldn't hear Alizée's voice, and that's the one I would want to hear), but I could see that the dance was the same one, but it seemed more elegant, more grown-up, more -- I don't know. Maybe it's the clothes. No sailor suit this time. Plenty sexy, but not so much exposed skin. Less blatant.



That we will, but my feeling is that she's enjoying it a lot. I also have a feeling this is preparing the ground for her new album, getting people acquainted with her again as a performer.
Totally agree... it's her saying "remember me? Get a load of what I used to and can still do before I'm done with my new album". It proves that she's certainly not thinking of retiring from music (as I've heard hinted at a few times recently).

[Scruffydog777]

The clip we saw was not very good (I mean, all the fans singing along, I couldn't hear Alizée's voice, and that's the one I would want to hear), . Less blatant.

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I couldn't agree more. I sing along with her recorded music all the time, but if I'm there listening to her live, her voice is the only voice I'd want to hear. There's one guys voice on this video that is absolutely horrible. Maybe we have to thank him for filming this if he was the one filming it, but I think if I was standing next to him when Alizee was singing and all I could hear was his voice,well...................they'd be building another Bastille to room me in for the rest of my stay in France.

As far as the performance, I got goosebumps listening and watching her perform JPVA. Can't wait for the actual show. It was great to hear her sing these songs to pretty much the orinal music. Then to see her dancing again..........too much.

[Aaronius31]

As far as the performance, I got goosebumps listening and watching her perform JPVA. Can't wait for the actual show. It was great to hear her sing these songs to pretty much the orinal music. Then to see her dancing again..........too much.

:D I totally agree. Chills were going up my spine when I heard her (backtrack) sing and dance so melodiously :wub:

[Rev]

Although a quick performance, at least this time the dancers were not vulgar. Alizée was presented with the level of style that she deserves. :)

[Aaronius31]

Although a quick performance, at least this time the dancers were not vulgar. Alizée was presented with the level of style that she deserves. :)

Yeah, I'm glad the dancers actually looked classy, unlike last time...

[Azhiri]

Wait, wait, where can I see this? When did this happen!? :eek:

[Naft]

Wait, wait, where can I see this? When did this happen!? :eek:

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Aside from the annoying singing guy in the background, it is perfect. I can't wait until the HD version comes out in July. :wub:

[DrSmith]

The guy singing is clearly having a brilliant time and all anyone can do is complain… :<


http://wtfhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/haters-gonna-hate-puffin.jpg

[Aaronius31]

I know, everyone is acting like this is the only version that will ever release lol!

[Azhiri]

Oh, that's amazing! I'm even more excited for the new album if this is what we can expect! She's still got it. :D

Hehe, I don't mind the guy who's singing. It sounds like he had a great time, good for him.

[Jalen]

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That. was. awesome.

Twas much like walking through an IKEA and running into an old friend you haven't seen in years and you go all OHAI and they're all OOHAAAAAAIIII HOW U BEEN and you're all JUST SWELL LOL Y U HERE D'OH and they're all U NO, JUST CHILLIN OUT, MAXIN, DANCIN' ALL COOL

I wonder why she didn't opt for a headset though

[babyblue558]

That. was. awesome.

Twas much like walking through an IKEA and running into an old friend you haven't seen in years and you go all OHAI and they're all OOHAAAAAAIIII HOW U BEEN and you're all JUST SWELL LOL Y U HERE D'OH and they're all U NO, JUST CHILLIN OUT, MAXIN, DANCIN' ALL COOL

I wonder why she didn't opt for a headset though

Surprisingly that totally makes sense and I know exatly what you mean! :p Felt exactly the same when I first saw it. About the headset... I've been wondering too myself and can't think of a reason...

Edit:

Maybe it's because headsets cost money and the show didn't think it was worth her having one just to playback for 2 mins... I don't know really. :confused:

[Aaronius31]

Well Alizée knows, that in order to have class, one must use a SHINY microphone and where a glorious and luxourius outfit :) And I am guessing that she didn't spin around because they will cut to a differet angle (probably of the crowd or dancers) after her half-spins to make it look like she did indeed spin just like the dancers did.

[lefty12357]

It seems like several of us have been wondering why she didn't use a headset. Me too. It must have felt strange doing a dance with one hand stuck holding a microphone. I wonder if it was a last minute thing, where maybe someone forgot to have the headset ready or something to do with the bodypack, so they just went without it.

[Aaronius31]

Once again...

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The world may never know :(

[Azhiri]

It was a stunning performance nonetheless. :D

[Un-rêve]

New Vid! WARNING!!!! Try not to watch too many times! :p

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[VVVACCPLPNLY]

grr... I CAN'T SEE! :(

[Edcognito]

<------ @ work

:'-(

Ed :cool:

[Scruffydog777]

Didn't you see my correction of Vanessa's video ?

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[Chuck]

Great Job, Scruff! It doesn't look like the Joker's lair anymore! (inside joke for senior members, there)

I mean, the original vid above is great, too (better view than before, better focus, no more of that one singing guy), except this person spaced out and kept turning the camera or phonecam sideways, apparently thinking it would auto-rotate or something???

(Too funny... I've actually seen people doing that, too.)

Anyway, then I got a real sore neck after awhile from watching that. So now, Sir Scruffy, can you just make a version of the vid rotated another 90 degrees so I can kinda balance out?

[Scruffydog777]

Great Job, Scruff! It doesn't look like the Joker's lair anymore! (inside joke for senior members, there)

I mean, the original vid above is great, too (better view than before, better focus, no more of that one singing guy), except this person spaced out and kept turning the camera or phonecam sideways, apparently thinking it would auto-rotate or something???

(Too funny... I've actually seen people doing that, too.)

Anyway, then I got a real sore neck after awhile from watching that. So now, Sir Scruffy, can you just make a version of the vid rotated another 90 degrees so I can kinda balance out?

ROFLMAO..........The original video was made by Vanessa of Alizeecorsicajaccio. You can't really blame her for rotating it, she wanted to get all of Alizee in the film. Whether she realized there was no way to correct it with out stopping the video and starting again I don't know.

I sent her a pm asking permission to do what I did, but I found out she speaks only French but she sent me a pm saying I believe, it was okay to miodify the video so voila!