L'e-mail a des ailes. What happened here.

[Scruffydog777]

During her performance of L'e-mail a des ailes during En Concert, Alizée moves over to guitarist Olivier Marly. They look at each other for a couple of seconds, then she jerks her head away. It somehow didn't look like a planned dance move to me. He had a very serious look on his face before, then has a grin on his face after. Do you think it was planned, or did some type of playful inter-action happen between the two? I guess some one who was lucky enough to see 2 of her En Concert performances would know?

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[Merci Alizée]

During her performance of L'e-mail a des ailes during En Concert, Alizée moves over to guitarist Olivier Marly. They look at each other for a couple of seconds, then she jerks her head away. It somehow didn't look like a planned dance move to me. He had a very serious look on his face before, then has a grin on his face after. Do you think it was planned, or did some type of playful inter-action happen between the two? I guess some one who was lucky enough to see 2 of her En Concert performances would know?

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I don't think that anything unusual happened there or she was lost into the eyes of guitarist. I can't tell what was going into her mind, but video doesn't indicate anything like that.

Yeah, you can definitely ask the person who attended two of those concerts.

[Bigdan]

I don't think that anything unusual happened there or she was lost into the eyes of guitarist. I can't tell what was going into her mind, but video doesn't indicate anything like that.

Yeah, you can definitely ask the person who attended two of those concerts.

All I can say is : don't show this to Jeremy ! :D

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

See, this is why wen you guys were talking about someone named 'Olivier' a few weeks ago, I thought you meant this Olivier. They have a lot of little interactions on stage that seem very intimate.

[Rictor]

Hmm I wouldn't read too much into it. I noticed this exchange even during the first time I saw "En Concert," but you've got to figure that with all the time they all spent touring together, they would naturally be close with each other. It doesn't necessary mean there's anything going on. I mean the drummer taught Lilly a thing or two about drumming as well. And think about the time she probably spent with the other dancers getting their moves right and everything. So I'd go with the "playful interaction" theory. Same goes for when the two guitarists sandwich her towards the end of "Moi Lolita." Hehehehe. She's so cute.

[Mon Maquis]

Just for the record, Alizée has her wedding ring on during that song....

[Merci Alizée]

Hmm I wouldn't read too much into it. I noticed this exchange even during the first time I saw "En Concert," but you've got to figure that with all the time they all spent touring together, they would naturally be close with each other. It doesn't necessary mean there's anything going on. I mean the drummer taught Lilly a thing or two about drumming as well. And think about the time she probably spent with the other dancers getting their moves right and everything. So I'd go with the "playful interaction" theory. Same goes for when the two guitarists sandwich her towards the end of "Moi Lolita."

Most of the time we think that this playful theory was Mylene's concept. Watch her concert video, you will understand what I mean.

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Just for the record, Alizée has her wedding ring on during that song....

yeah, and Jeremy was there at the concert place

[Aaronius31]

yeah, and Jeremy was there at the concert place

I bet things were awkward with Jeremy and the En Concert performances haha. But yah she does get playful with the band. Did you notice her jumping around once she announced the drummer during A Contre-Courant? That was pretty playful there. And yes the "Lolita Sandwich", then there is the Mon Maquis dance she did around the drummer. I think if she was to be playful with anyone it was definitely the drummer that she had more interactions with.

[babyblue558]

Most of the time we think that this playful theory was Mylene's concept. Watch her concert video, you will understand what I mean.

True, although Mylène often takes it beyond "playful":
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[Marquis<3Alizée]

They were playing around thats all.

[babyblue558]

They were playing around thats all.

Yeah I too think it was just done "for show" and meant nothing. Some of my favourite parts of En Concert were her flirtations with the musicians, but it's difficult to say how much of it was rehearsed and how much was spontaneously done.

[Zeerre]

I agree most of it is just playful interaction, but there is this one moment during one of her performances that stood out to me. I can't remember what performance it was, or which song she was performing, but I remember Alizée looking to her right and smiling in a very particular way. I know she smiles a lot when she sings, and often gives the impression that she's flirting, but trust me, I've seen around 100 different videos of Alizée performing and this one moment made such an impact that I still remember it.

Unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't remember during what performance it was, but I'll keep looking for it until I find, so you guys can see what I mean.
I'm pretty sure that it wasn't during a performance of Gourmandises, PTB, or JPVA, so it was either during Moi... Lolita, L'Alize, JEAM, or ACC.

[Deepwaters]

There are spontaneous patterns that emerge in posting on this and other forums, so that similar ideas flurry at the same time. At the moment, here, it seems to be "does she fool around?" :cool: All based on flirtation seen on stage, which probably means nothing.

(On the other hand, one could speculate as to why, after co-producing Psychédélices and writing over half the music, Jérémy has absolutely no presence whatever on UEDS . . . but if there's anything to that, my guess would be it's his attitude rather than her misbehavior.)

[OGRE]

It was a blown kiss that Alizée caught on the cheek. Looks impromptu (but is as good as if choreographed) and matches nicely with the instrumental transition. I noticed it many moons ago and never saw it as anything more than part of the show. Doubly so given the french faire la bise.

[Jalen]

I agree most of it is just playful interaction, but there is this one moment during one of her performances that stood out to me. I can't remember what performance it was, or which song she was performing, but I remember Alizée looking to her right and smiling in a very particular way. I know she smiles a lot when she sings, and often gives the impression that she's flirting, but trust me, I've seen around 100 different videos of Alizée performing and this one moment made such an impact that I still remember it.

Unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't remember during what performance it was, but I'll keep looking for it until I find, so you guys can see what I mean.
I'm pretty sure that it wasn't during a performance of Gourmandises, PTB, or JPVA, so it was either during Moi... Lolita, L'Alize, JEAM, or ACC.

lol... "such a big impression you forgot where and what she was performing"

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I'm really disappointed with all of you

Anyone who comes within 10ft of her radiance automatically grows an s' eating grin

can't believe none of you remembered that... DON'T YOU REMEMBER THE STUDIES AT CERN?

[Aaronius31]

All I know is if any of us came within feet of her, we would all try and pull off a playful interaction with her, and then get smacked haha.

[pepelepew]

I'm quite sure with all the examples sited here that Alizee was doing the band, backup singers, stage crew and most if not all of the roadies lol. This thread is quite sad and embarrasing even if it is done in fun. Are you so bored that you need to make shit up? Go out more often and get some fresh air.

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I'm quite sure with all the examples sited here that Alizee was doing the band, backup singers, stage crew and most if not all of the roadies lol. This thread is quite sad and embarrasing even if it is done in fun. Are you so bored that you need to make shit up? Go out more often and get some fresh air.:rolleyes:

[Zeerre]

lol... "such a big impression you forgot where and what she was performing"


Details, details.

[Scruffydog777]

All I can say is : don't show this to Jeremy ! :D

See, this is why wen you guys were talking about someone named 'Olivier' a few weeks ago, I thought you meant this Olivier. They have a lot of little interactions on stage that seem very intimate.

When I said an interaction on stage, I meant just a playful, joking type of interaction. Nothing more.

One reason I like analysing little snippets of videos of her performances is because it's another way of promoting Alizée. There are a lot of people who watch Youtube for new videos and if you can post a video, especialy one that includes a good picture of her in the posting, that's a free ad. Trouble is with short videos, you can't change the picture the way you can in longer ones.

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I bet things were awkward with Jeremy and the En Concert performances haha. But yah she does get playful with the band....................................... then there is the Mon Maquis dance she did around the drummer. I think if she was to be playful with anyone it was definitely the drummer that she had more interactions with.

That dance around the drummer definitely caught my eye as you can see with this video I posted a few months ago. Being in his position, seeing her dance over in his direction, bathed in the rays of those red lights, then just dancing in front of him, with that beautiful smile, then when she danced around him and the way she looked back at him was just priceless. If I was him, I would have been dying a thousand deaths inside. Seeing her so close, but knowing I didn't have a chance with her.


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[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Well, when I said intmately, I didn't mean like you think. I just meant they were obviously close friends, and very close. Not sexually. I have been very close with a few girls that I would be more 'intimate' as I see it than with a few girls I have dated. Intimate to me means a little bit more than physically close. It doesn't mean touching or caressng each other. It means being near each other. Comfortable with coming within a few inches of each other, and not feeling akward. Like when you can come near face-touching-face, and not be wierded out by each other. When you see each other, you greet with a hug as opposed to a handshake or whatever. That's how I mean intimate, and that's how I see Alizée and Olivier in the dvd. I don't see them as sexually interested in each other. Or even interested in dating each other. I was surprised when people interpretted my post as that. I was caught quite off guard!:eek:

[Scruffydog777]

Well, when I said intmately, I didn't mean like you think. I just meant they were obviously close friends, and very close. Not sexually. I have been very close with a few girls that I would be more 'intimate' as I see it than with a few girls I have dated. Intimate to me means a little bit more than physically close. It doesn't mean touching or caressng each other. It means being near each other. Comfortable with coming within a few inches of each other, and not feeling akward. Like when you can come near face-touching-face, and not be wierded out by each other. When you see each other, you greet with a hug as opposed to a handshake or whatever. That's how I mean intimate, and that's how I see Alizée and Olivier in the dvd. I don't see them as sexually interested in each other. Or even interested in dating each other. I was surprised when people interpretted my post as that. I was caught quite off guard!:eek:

Yes, when you first hear the word intimate, then something of a a sexual nature, I think automaticaly comes up (no pun intended). I think Olivier would have much rather played for a band like the Stones or AC/DC and might have resented playing for a "girl singer" at first. But I think working with her, finding out what a wonderful person she is, he came to love her in a professional way and was intimate with her in a professional way, and knowing you as I do, I'm sure, that's how you meant it.

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While we're on the subject. Here's a short clip from her performance of J'ai pas vingt ans at the Eiffel tower. She's looking into the crowd, then she sort of gets this look that she's embarressed, then she looks away.

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[Drake498]

During her performance of L'e-mail a des ailes during En Concert, Alizée moves over to guitarist Olivier Marly. They look at each other for a couple of seconds, then she jerks her head away. It somehow didn't look like a planned dance move to me. He had a very serious look on his face before, then has a grin on his face after. Do you think it was planned, or did some type of playful inter-action happen between the two? I guess some one who was lucky enough to see 2 of her En Concert performances would know?
Video 1: It's called being friends... end of mystery :cool:


While we're on the subject. Here's a short clip from her performance of J'ai pas vingt ans at the Eiffel tower. She's looking into the crowd, then she sort of gets this look that she's embarressed, then she looks away.
Video 2: Just watching an admiring fan :wub:

[Scruffydog777]

Video 1: It's called being friends... end of mystery :cool:

No...........there's a little more to it than that. I think he's a lillte more of a jokester, and it caught her a lttle off guard.

Video 2: Just watching an admiring fan :wub:

No..........once again..............there are thousands of admiring fans out there...........there was something else that made her react the way she did.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

...I think Olivier would have much rather played for a band like the Stones or AC/DC and might have resented playing for a "girl singer" at first...
Eh, I don't know about the Stones or AC/DC... Maybe Genisis?
...knowing you as I do...
I had to do a double-take when I saw this! I was sure for a moment that MYGOGT had posted it... But then I realised he's been gone a while... Or at least hasn't posted in a few days... Anyways, I know this is off topic, but how do you know me? Like, we've talked some, and probably more than some, but I wouldn't say we know each other...

[Future Raptor Ace]

During her performance of L'e-mail a des ailes during En Concert, Alizée moves over to guitarist Olivier Marly. They look at each other for a couple of seconds, then she jerks her head away. It somehow didn't look like a planned dance move to me. He had a very serious look on his face before, then has a grin on his face after. Do you think it was planned, or did some type of playful inter-action happen between the two? I guess some one who was lucky enough to see 2 of her En Concert performances would know?

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I think that was part of the dance, but I will say Alizee and that guitarist do appear to have a lot of chemistry in many of their performances together. What went on behind the curtans between the two; I say its anyone's guess

[Scruffydog777]

I had to do a double-take when I saw this! I was sure for a moment that MYGOGT had posted it... But then I realised he's been gone a while... Or at least hasn't posted in a few days... Anyways, I know this is off topic, but how do you know me? Like, we've talked some, and probably more than some, but I wouldn't say we know each other...


I think as far as our views about Alizee, we know quite a bit about each other, unless what we have been posting in here hasn't been truthful, but I can assure you, I've always been open and up front about my feelings, even at the expense of pissing off other people.

[lefty12357]

I believe it was all part of the act. I think Alizée had a good working relationship with all the musicians and other people involved in the production. Keep in mind she was seeing Jérémy at the time and even married him before the tour was over.

[MYGOGT]

When I first saw some of these performances I wondered if the band may have tried to take advantage of a young woman with new fame. But I believe nothing like that was the case. I think it is part of the performance. OK, maybe I hope it was just the performance. Only a select few would know the whole story.
I'm back, at least til this weekend and another trip.

[Future Raptor Ace]

When I first saw some of these performances I wondered if the band may have tried to take advantage of a young woman with new fame. But I believe nothing like that was the case. I think it is part of the performance. OK, maybe I hope it was just the performance. Only a select few would know the whole story.
I'm back, at least til this weekend and another trip.
lol a little off topic here, but I love how you say "take advantage of a young woman with new fame" :rolleyes: I find that quote to be ironic and yet, very hilarious :D

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

I think as far as our views about Alizee, we know quite a bit about each other, unless what we have been posting in here hasn't been truthful, but I can assure you, I've always been open and up front about my feelings, even at the expense of pissing off other people.

Oh... Yeah, I have been very truthful about my views on Alizée and anything relating to her. Especially in the chatbox. A few there could tell you I am very very honest about just exactly how I feel towrds here. Very brutally honest at times. And if you have been honest, I think I have a pretty clear picture painted on your views of Alizée. Either that, your you are a very good, very subtle troll!

[Aaronius31]

I believe it was all part of the act. I think Alizée had a good working relationship with all the musicians and other people involved in the production. Keep in mind she was seeing Jérémy at the time and even married him before the tour was over.

Yah I agree that it was just playful since they all knew each other. It's like how you joke around being gay with other guys in front of people cause you know them. Bad example sorry haha

[MYGOGT]

Oh... Yeah, I have been very truthful about my views on Alizée and anything relating to her. Especially in the chatbox. A few there could tell you I am very very honest about just exactly how I feel towrds here. Very brutally honest at times. And if you have been honest, I think I have a pretty clear picture painted on your views of Alizée. Either that, your you are a very good, very subtle troll!
I can vouch for Scruffy, he ain't no troll.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Yah I agree that it was just playful since they all knew each other. It's like how you joke around being gay with other guys in front of people cause you know them. Bad example sorry haha

Yeah... I don't know about you, but when I was in school, that was never ok... Terrible example... How about when it's ok for girls to hug and kiss and hold hand and not be lesbians? No wait... That's still a terrible example... Dude, you suck with the examples tonight!:p

[Aaronius31]

I can vouch for Scruffy, he ain't no troll.

I'm just assuming which isn't good, but I think I see that something is brewing between VVV and Scruff. VVV, just remember what he has done for you;)

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

What's brewing? I was being sarcastic, guy. I know scruffy is an excellent person (and a lot moreso than you know, from pm'ing him), and would never try to fight with him. He deserves nothing but respect from me. And I give him nothing but.

[Aaronius31]

What's brewing? I was being sarcastic, guy. I know scruffy is an excellent person (and a lot moreso than you know, from pm'ing him), and would never try to fight with him. He deserves nothing but respect from me. And I give him nothing but.

I knew me assuming stuff and being tired and not interpreting stuff right would make me look lost haha. Yah sorry bout that. But yah we are making bad examples tonight haha.

[OndrejSc]

Scruffy, you are dangerously close to obsession, it might be fun at first, but try to hold your horses, 'cause at the end of that road... lurks madness :eek:

[Scruffydog777]

Eh, I don't know about the Stones or AC/DC... Maybe Genisis?

I had to do a double-take when I saw this! I was sure for a moment that MYGOGT had posted it... But then I realised he's been gone a while... Or at least hasn't posted in a few days... Anyways, I know this is off topic, but how do you know me? Like, we've talked some, and probably more than some, but I wouldn't say we know each other...

What's brewing?...........................I know scruffy is an excellent person (and a lot moreso than you know, from pm'ing him), .

This does sound like some what of a double standard VVVACCPLPNLY. You jump in my stuff for saying I know you, then you turn around and say you know I'm an excellent person. What gives?


Scruffy, you are dangerously close to obsession, it might be fun at first, but try to hold your horses, 'cause at the end of that road... lurks madness :eek:

You could be right. Like I said, I like posting these short clips on Youtube because it is another way of promoting Alizée, plus these little items I bring up kind of gives us something to debate when there's not a whole lot new to talk about. But thinking about her and ways to promote her does pre-occupy a lot of my time. Maybe I should start a hobby, like traveling. That's it! I'll go to places like Paris and Pistoia and Taormina......................oh no!.........I'm half way down that road already.

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Well, You know what I mean. From what I have seen, you are an excellent person. Just take the compliment!:p For all we know, you could be a huge jerkwad, and that's why you didn't say two words at the autograph signing. But I'm sure you aren't! Or am I?:D

[Aaronius31]

This does sound like some what of a double standard VVVACCPLPNLY. You jump in my stuff for saying I know you, then you turn around and say you know I'm an excellent person. What gives?

It's that time of month;)Jk'n. But yah it was like 2AM when he posted that. People contradict and get loopy at those times...



That's it! I'll go to places like Paris and Pistoia and Taormina......................oh no!.........I'm half way down that road already.

Hahaha:D

[Drake498]

Hmm I wouldn't read too much into it. It doesn't necessary mean there's anything going on.

^Agreed, it seems like we're being a bit obsessive now does it?

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

We? What's this we stuff, I ain't French!:D Always wanted to say that here somewhere! I agree. They are friends. I notied little things like ths when I watched my first concert dvd, Rihanna Good Girl Gone Bad Live. Though, not to the same level as Mylène obviously wanted it to be.

[Scruffydog777]

Well, You know what I mean. From what I have seen, you are an excellent person. Just take the compliment!:p For all we know, you could be a huge jerkwad, and that's why you didn't say two words at the autograph signing. But I'm sure you aren't! Or am I?:D


You know your saying I might be a huge jerkwad, implies I might be a huge jerkwad and maybe you are right. Maybe I am. But I guarantee you if another oportunity like this comes up again for an autographed cd for a new album. Your name will not be on that list.

[Aaronius31]

You know your saying I might be a huge jerkwad, implies I might be a huge jerkwad and maybe you are right. Maybe I am. But I guarantee you if another oportunity like this comes up again for an autographed cd for a new album. Your name will not be on that list.

....How ungrateful of him....Anyway thanks for all you do Scruff, and no your not a jerkwad, according to everyone else on the forum you are the best member on here(it was discussed in the Ventrilo Chat for the Moi Lolita 10th Anniversary.) Can't wait for you to hear the podcast coming out for it:D

[VVVACCPLPNLY]

Wait, I sincerely hope you didn't think I was being serious. I was just trying to make a point of how I agreed that while we understand each others' poits of view about Alizée, we don't actually know each other personally. I never know what you are like until I meet you. If you thought I was calling you a jerk, I wasn't. I apologize if it seemed that way. But I still don't actually know you. Anyone could tell me they are a good person all they want. But when I met MYGOGT in person, he was much different than I expected. So I now never assume anything about anybody. Sadly, yes, that means I don't assume you are a good person outside of doing what amazng things you have for Alizée and her fans. The flipside of tat is that I would never assume you were a bad person either. I can't know unless I meet you. But I have met MYGOGT, and we talked enough about other non-Alizée subjects for me to know he is a good person. And he has vouched for you. So I would assume you are a good person, if I assumed anything.

[Azhiri]

Aw, that's really cute. :3

I don't think it really means anything (and you know what I'm referring to when I say "means anything"! :p ), just a playful exchange between friends. Happens all the time.

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No..........once again..............there are thousands of admiring fans out there...........there was something else that made her react the way she did.

Really? I didn't notice any embarrassment on her face, but then again I'm awful at reading expressions and social cues. :p

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You know your saying I might be a huge jerkwad, implies I might be a huge jerkwad and maybe you are right. Maybe I am. But I guarantee you if another oportunity like this comes up again for an autographed cd for a new album. Your name will not be on that list.

I think he was making a joke, you're definitely not a jerkwad. You've done far too much for Alizee promotion-wise to be a mean person! :)

[dan6480]

It could have been planned, or just a playful moment. Funny to watch though.

[Aaronius31]

It could have been planned, or just a playful moment. Funny to watch though.

Funny to watch indeed. I think whether it was planned or just playful, that this moment was nothing serious between the two. So yah....Off-Topic time?!:Djk'n

[RobandSandy]

I think that a little bit of being culturally challenged Americans may be a part of this whole debate. Americans automatically see everything as it would relate to the sexual. French people are very open about displaying their affections openly to those that are friends of either sex. Lets see, they kiss each other on the cheek as a part of a friendship greeting, my Sandy had a part French upbringing and she said the same thing. The French are not so tied up culturally like we Puritanical Americans are. Those exchanges onstage may or may not have been planned choreography, but be certain of this, it was a friendly encounter between close friends, to read into it anything more would be a false assumption in my opinion.

[wasabi622]

Yeah, I saw this video on your youtube channel, but I have to say, I don't think it was much. It was simply Alizée being too cute and too playful that we can't help but fawn over it. :wub: