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Scruffydog777
07-09-2010, 03:06 PM
It must have been really tough on Alizée's parents when she was discovered by MF and LB. In her father's case, most fathers expect that when their daughters graduate from high school, that there's a good chance they might move off to college or maybe a job in a city far away and they're usually mentally prepared for that. But with Alizée, after being discovered, she left school I believe it was 2 years early. Even though from what I've heard, she went home on just about every weekend, I'm sure she spent a lot of time on those weekends with her freinds, telling them all about her experiences and the people she met. So he probably spent little time with her compared to before she was discovered. Knowing he'd be losing so much time with her, it must have been tough for him to let her go. Such a bright spot in his every day life, leaving him far sooner than he ever anticipated. But he allowed her to do it, because he knew it was a chance of a life time for her, knew she'd enjoy what she was doing. He did it knowing he'd be losing the biggest ray of sunshine in his life, because he loved her.
As far as her mother is concerned. From what I read, she traveled with her every where she went, until she was 18. That was what they agreed upon in order for her to drop out of school. Taking correspondence lessons was too a part of the agreement. So her mother left her home, her life, her husband on Corsica, just about every week.. I'm sure she enjoyed many of her days in Paris. But in my line of work, There's been a few occassions where I've been living in one city and working in another far away and I can tell you all that travelling get's old real quick. But she did it. She did it for Alizée.
Her two parents made big sacrifices for her, because they loved her.
I wonder if Alizée realizes how big a sacrifice they made?
When I was a teenager, I had some cousins who due to our love for skiing, became very close. I used to go up to their place to pick them up on the way to the mountains. Now none of us kids had much money. But my aunt, who was seperated, would give what little money she had to her kids, so they could go. I didn't realize til later on in life when I was going through some tough financial times of my own, what a big sacrifice she had made for us. A few years later, after getting married and getting a job that had good travel benefits, I had hoped to take my aunt and my mother who had made sacrifices for me on some trips as a way of repaying them. Well my aunt had arthritis in her knees real bad. She had to go through knee replacement surgery on 2 occassions.. After the first one, I would stop at the hospital every day on my way to work with newspapers, magazines, pictures of our many pets which she loved to see. Nobody else in her family stopped by as often as me.
Then about a month later, she had the second knee replaced. Once again I was visiting her every day. Then there came Valentines day. I had gone down to my parents house to do some remodeling work on their bathroom. I had picked up a box of chocolates that I planned on dropping off at my aunts on the way home. Well the work at my parents place took longer than expected and I was dam tired when I left for the hour long drive to the hospital near my home, so I decided not to go. Well I forget the exact story, but I believe my aunt wasn't supposed to be taking aspirin, but she took it anyways. She had a blood clot and because there was no monitoring equipment on her, she passed away that night. There were a lot of feelings about what happened but I'd just like to say about one of them is that I felt cheated, because I had hoped to repay her more for what she did for us.
So I'm just wondering does Alizée know how big a sacrifice her parents made for her. I'm sure she probably does and I know she would have done the exact same thing for them.
Fèvier
07-09-2010, 03:27 PM
Damn Scruff, you almost made me cry my eyes out with this one. it really made me reflect on my own life. I do work with my father a lot and he is a carpenter so I get insights to some of the construction and other stuff he does on the side. sometimes he comes home filthy and other nights he just goes to the couch and passes out for a good hour. when he tells me stories of when he was a kid back in México, it makes my life seem like that of a millionaire's compared to his. I do appreciate what he does for me and the family. hopefully I could be like him (personality wise) and be the great man he wanted to be. I'm sure Alizée knows what the sacrifices her parents went through and I'm also sure she has thanked them for it and has somehow repaid them one way or another :o
Marquis<3Alizée
07-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah thats very deep man her father is a really strong hearted man.His wife and his doughter were always gone.But he held his head up high.
From what I have read she spent four days a week in Paris and flew home every weekend. She spends close to week every month in Ajaccio with her family. She is extremely close to her family.
Believe me she knows and appreciates what her parents sacrificed for her career during her teenage years.
Deepwaters
07-09-2010, 07:08 PM
I would not overstate the "sacrifice" that Jo and Michelle made. As has already been stated, Alizée made frequent visits to Corsica as a teenager and in fact she still does. Her family did not lose contact with her. There have been contributions of time, especially in the earlier years by her mother and today by her father as a photographer, but it wasn't that onerous. Nor is Paris all that far from Ajaccio or difficult to get to.
Jo has been happy to have his daughter's fame attract interest in his photography, too. I love his work for its own sake, but if not for Alizée I probably would never have heard of him. In fact, there's some speculation the reason he got banned from Facebook was because he was reported by a jealous photographer who didn't like the fact that he had thousands of FB friends, most of them Alizée fans. He has not been shy about benefiting from his daughter's career.
Her parents gave her a lot of support -- plenty of reason for her to be grateful. But sacrifice? Not really, or no more than all parents make. The real sacrifices were made by Alizée herself, in giving up any chance at a normal life.
Människöpesten
07-09-2010, 07:11 PM
i personally believe it wasn't that huge of a sacrifice, being that every parent wants the best for their child. but that's just me.
Your post was very moving Scruffy. I agree that it must have been hard, though not all bad because of the frequent visits. I don't think she could stay away from Corsica too long, being such a nice place and all.
Scruffydog777
07-09-2010, 09:15 PM
............................... The real sacrifices were made by Alizée herself, in giving up any chance at a normal life.
I don't think she made a sacrifice. She loved what she was doing. Even though she's a little on the shy side, she loves being on stage. She could of called it quits at any tiime. Even if she was under contract, do you think they would have held a teenage girl to one?
Azhiri
07-09-2010, 09:38 PM
I don't think she made a sacrifice. She loved what she was doing. Even though she's a little on the shy side, she loves being on stage. She could of called it quits at any tiime. Even if she was under contract, do you think they would have held a teenage girl to one?
I'd call leaving school early a sacrifice, even though I think she still went to some kind of on-the-road tutoring setup? I'm not exactly sure. But education is always first and foremost! Or at least it should be. :p So yeah, I think she and her parents all made sacrifices.
Scruffydog777
07-09-2010, 09:53 PM
I'd call leaving school early a sacrifice, ........................
Well you would think leaving school would be an unwise choice, not only because you're stopping an education process which is so important, but also because you lose out on a very important part of your life growing up wise in the process. But what do you think would have happened if she told MF and LB that she'd like to finish school first. Well she'd still be dancing her way across Corsica, a virtual unknown. I think she had to make the choice she did and doesn't regret it.
She's found fame and fortune in the early stages of her career. How she handles it and develops it remains to be seen. If she has to put an end to this career at a still very early stage in her life, that lack of education, may come back to haunt her.
Azhiri
07-09-2010, 10:00 PM
Well you would think leaving school would be an unwise choice, not only because you're stopping an education process which is so important, but also because you lose out on a very important part of your life growing up wise in the process. But what do you think would have happened if she told MF and LB that she'd like to finish school first. Well she'd still be dancing her way across Corsica, a virtual unknown. I think she had to make the choice she did and doesn't regret it.
She's found fame and fortune in the early stages of her career. How she handles it and develops it remains to be seen. If she has to put an end to this career at a still very early stage in her life, that lack of education, may come back to haunt her.
I agree, things have obviously turned out very well for her regardless. :)
If she hadn't left school the way she did, she wouldn't be inspiring people with her music and dance (not to mention amazing personality!) like she does now! But it must have seemed like kind of a risky choice at the time. :)
Deepwaters
07-09-2010, 10:38 PM
I don't think she made a sacrifice. She loved what she was doing.
I didn't say she didn't. I don't think she regrets doing it, either. I'm just saying that in making the choice to pursue her entertainment career, she gave up alternatives that could no longer be followed. Dropping out of school was just the beginning. She has to be much more cautious about who she talks to and where she lets herself be seen than most people do. She can't go be a tourist in Mexico without a bodyguard. She has strangers poking into her private life. She has to keep the beach in Corsica where her family hangs out secret because fans would descend on the place in great numbers and ruin it. These are not small sacrifices. She makes them willingly, though, I agree -- she could give it all up any time she wanted and become obscure. (I strongly suspect Jérémy would prefer it if she did, too.)
pepelepew
07-10-2010, 04:21 AM
Well you would think leaving school would be an unwise choice, not only because you're stopping an education process which is so important, but also because you lose out on a very important part of your life growing up wise in the process. But what do you think would have happened if she told MF and LB that she'd like to finish school first. Well she'd still be dancing her way across Corsica, a virtual unknown. I think she had to make the choice she did and doesn't regret it.
She's found fame and fortune in the early stages of her career. How she handles it and develops it remains to be seen. If she has to put an end to this career at a still very early stage in her life, that lack of education, may come back to haunt her.Alizee has gotten a much better education than any formal one she would have gotten. Alizee is very intelligent and if she needs further training for employment purposes I'm sure she will. I believe any sacrifice made by parents or Alizee has been matched by many blessings.
By the way Scruffy your childhood story of sacrifice by your mother and aunt was touching and gratifying that you acknowledge their sacrifices. I bet neither of them saw it as a sacrifice though. Natural acts of kindness and love for their children I suspect. Thanks Scruffy for sharing that story with us.:)
Bigdan
07-10-2010, 07:15 AM
What I think is that the toughest decision her father as to make was to let her
be taken under Mylene's wing...
I can imagine what kind of face Jo must have made when she told him that she'going to be involved in a Farmer concept called "Lolita" :p
Chuck
07-10-2010, 08:30 AM
What I think is that the toughest decision her father as to make was to let her
be taken under Mylene's wing...
I can imagine what kind of face Jo must have made when she told him that she'going to be involved in a Farmer concept called "Lolita" :p
Was it this face? :eek:
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True, some parents see children as a burden, but most see them as a blessing. A lot of parents not only willingly do whatever they can for their kids, but also wish they could do a lot more.
As for Alizée, she'd been going to dance school, and by the time she was "discovered" her parents already knew their girl was far too talented to keep to themselves forever. I think the toughest "sacrifice" parents have to make is when they let their children go.
Deepwaters
07-10-2010, 09:32 AM
What I think is that the toughest decision her father as to make was to let her
be taken under Mylene's wing...
I can imagine what kind of face Jo must have made when she told him that she'going to be involved in a Farmer concept called "Lolita" :p
Most fathers would have some misgivings about their cute teenage daughters doing something like that. Jo Jacotey might be an exception. When Alizée was picked as sexiest woman in France and no. 2 in the world by FHM magazine, Jo linked it on Facebook. Granted she's not a teenager any more, but how many fathers crow that "my daughter is so sexy"?
I imagine that once Jo was satisfied that Mylène is responsible and not a flake, he was entirely cool with the idea. As for his face, well, I'm sure it was a surprise, but probably a pleasant one. More :blink: than :eek:, leading quickly to :).
VVVACCPLPNLY
07-10-2010, 09:57 AM
And then very quckly to :D once he discovered how much success!
FanDeAliFee
07-10-2010, 11:39 AM
She can't go be a tourist in Mexico without a bodyguard.
Like many stars of her stature, and even those of greater renown, with careers spanning many decades, there are numerous countries in the world in which Alizée is virtually unknown. Do I have to say it? To the great dismay of many people at AAm, that includes the United States! And almost no tourists of any age, let alone as young as she, enjoy as fat a pocketbook.
In my experience, most (US) kids Alizée's age are delighted to be free of their parents if their financial help is not vital. In this regard, I find Alizée to be a real anomaly, and of great delight to typical parents.
As far as her years age 16 and 17, despite long work hours, I bet Alizée actually saw more of her mother than most that age, for want of the age peers on the road she would have had at home. Further, compared to when I was young, long distance telephony was almost free by then and Dad was always only a ring away. (His ring tone is "Papa Don't Preach" says the Corsican girl with a giggle.) I'd guess her Mom was much more inconvenienced by the need to travel with Alizée than was her Dad to remain at home with Johann and the Corsican clan. Incessant work travel really isn't fun for most people.
As for dropping out of high school, someone from a middle-class family, even with passionate academic ambitions, would have to be truly nuts to give up the opportunity to become a millionaire even before a very youthful marriage. Any time she wants, Alizée can earn her "Bac" and go on to University if that is her desire, without a care in the world about the expense, save the loss of potential earnings. The housemaster of my undergrad dorm, a tenured professor at a prestigious research university, didn't earn his high school diploma until he was 21, so he could serve the navy during World War Two.
AlizéeInspired
07-10-2010, 12:53 PM
I do believe her parents made a sacrifice as well as she. However, I think the outcome of it all was well worth it.
I'm sure that almost any of us, if given the same oppurtunity at that age, would have taken it. She was able to go out and live up a dream, her dream, and all at a young age. But she does have that fan factor though, where she must be a little more cautious now. Not having her parents around as much, especially starting at a young age, could have been a little tough for her too. With as important as her family is to her, I'm sure she missed her father almost as much as he missed her. As for dropping out of school early, I don't think its that big of a sacrifice given her situation. She is definitely able to get even better education now, if she wants or even needs it. The only thing that would be sacrificial about leaving school early would be leaving friends. Depending on how close she was to them, that could have been very tough as well. In the end, I think she did what most would do though. Even though there were a few sacrifices here and there, the end result made up for it.
Her parents made sacrifices as well, but I don't think they did anything that about any other loving parent wouldn't have done. Even while I have never been in their situation, as I am still young, I do know that a child being away from a parent is tough or at least different. I know this from my long leaves from my mother. When I'd get back she would always tell me how much she missed me, fix me a big dinner, and all that stuff :). So with Alizée's mother being with her until 18, I'd say the biggest sacrifice would have been from Jo. But I don't really know this for sure as I obviously wasn't in their shoes. Not being able to see your daughter must be tough, but knowing that she is doing well helps. I'm sure he worried to an extent and definitely missed her, but I think that he trusted her. I think it all comes down to trust and love on the parents part. They first trusted their daughter with the choice to drop school, leave home, and live her dream at a young age. If I were a father in this situation, I would hope that I could have trust in my daughter/son to be able to handle the situation. I'm sure he had trust in her with as strong and as smart of a person she is. Then there is their love. Of course her parents only want the best for her. If a child is offered to live their dream, almost any parent would want them to go do it just so they are happy. Parents want the best for their children, and that is what they did in this situation, I believe. They allowed Alizée the best.
So while I see there were sacrifices made on both sides, in the end, I don't think they were all that devistating. With her frequent visits home, they could all see eachother. Their time together would really count too. And I'm sure they really realized their appreciation for eachother more.
Whatever sacrifices that were made, I'd say they were definitely worth it. Alizée's success makes up for it all. All the sacrifices were for her success and for her to be happy living her dream.
Scruffydog777
07-10-2010, 01:24 PM
From what I have read she spent four days a week in Paris and flew home every weekend. She spends close to week every month in Ajaccio with her family. She is extremely close to her family. ............................
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I would not overstate the "sacrifice" that Jo and Michelle made. As has already been stated, Alizée made frequent visits to Corsica as a teenager and in fact she still does. Her family did not lose contact with her. There have been contributions of time, especially in the earlier years by her mother and today by her father as a photographer, but it wasn't that onerous. Nor is Paris all that far from Ajaccio or difficult to get to.
Jo has been happy to have his daughter's fame attract interest in his photography, \
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There are a lot of parents out there who if MF and LB came up to them and said we're going to take your daughter out of school and take her to Paris 4 days a week and make her a star, that the parents would say " Sure!..........Why don't you take her little brother too?". But I think most of us feel there is a specialness to her, a uniqeness to her that we can't explain and if they felt the same way too, then if she was gone for just one day a week from our lives, she would be sorely missed and as far as Jo being happy to have his daughters fame attract interest in his photography, I think he was just making the best of the situation. Which would you want? Alizée to be with you on a regular basis or to be able to take some photographs to show off your photography skills every once in a while? I guess it all depends on how much she meant to him.
What I think is that the toughest decision her father as to make was to let her
be taken under Mylene's wing...
I can imagine what kind of face Jo must have made when she told him that she'going to be involved in a Farmer concept called "Lolita" :p
You have to remember too that because of Jo, she was a big fan of Madonna.
Being a big fan of Madonna then being taken under Mylene's wing..........what kind of thoughts were going through his head?
Future Raptor Ace
07-10-2010, 02:32 PM
It must have been really tough on Alizée's parents when she was discovered by MF and LB. In her father's case, most fathers expect that when their daughters graduate from high school, that there's a good chance they might move off to college or maybe a job in a city far away and they're usually mentally prepared for that. But with Alizée, after being discovered, she left school I believe it was 2 years early. Even though from what I've heard, she went home on just about every weekend, I'm sure she spent a lot of time on those weekends with her freinds, telling them all about her experiences and the people she met. So he probably spent little time with her compared to before she was discovered. Knowing he'd be losing so much time with her, it must have been tough for him to let her go. Such a bright spot in his every day life, leaving him far sooner than he ever anticipated. But he allowed her to do it, because he knew it was a chance of a life time for her, knew she'd enjoy what she was doing. He did it knowing he'd be losing the biggest ray of sunshine in his life, because he loved her.
As far as her mother is concerned. From what I read, she traveled with her every where she went, until she was 18. That was what they agreed upon in order for her to drop out of school. Taking correspondence lessons was too a part of the agreement. So her mother left her home, her life, her husband on Corsica, just about every week.. I'm sure she enjoyed many of her days in Paris. But in my line of work, There's been a few occassions where I've been living in one city and working in another far away and I can tell you all that travelling get's old real quick. But she did it. She did it for Alizée.
Her two parents made big sacrifices for her, because they loved her.
I wonder if Alizée realizes how big a sacrifice they made?
When I was a teenager, I had some cousins who due to our love for skiing, became very close. I used to go up to their place to pick them up on the way to the mountains. Now none of us kids had much money. But my aunt, who was seperated, would give what little money she had to her kids, so they could go. I didn't realize til later on in life when I was going through some tough financial times of my own, what a big sacrifice she had made for us. A few years later, after getting married and getting a job that had good travel benefits, I had hoped to take my aunt and my mother who had made sacrifices for me on some trips as a way of repaying them. Well my aunt had arthritis in her knees real bad. She had to go through knee replacement surgery on 2 occassions.. After the first one, I would stop at the hospital every day on my way to work with newspapers, magazines, pictures of our many pets which she loved to see. Nobody else in her family stopped by as often as me.
Then about a month later, she had the second knee replaced. Once again I was visiting her every day. Then there came Valentines day. I had gone down to my parents house to do some remodeling work on their bathroom. I had picked up a box of chocolates that I planned on dropping off at my aunts on the way home. Well the work at my parents place took longer than expected and I was dam tired when I left for the hour long drive to the hospital near my home, so I decided not to go. Well I forget the exact story, but I believe my aunt wasn't supposed to be taking aspirin, but she took it anyways. She had a blood clot and because there was no monitoring equipment on her, she passed away that night. There were a lot of feelings about what happened but I'd just like to say about one of them is that I felt cheated, because I had hoped to repay her more for what she did for us.
So I'm just wondering does Alizée know how big a sacrifice her parents made for her. I'm sure she probably does and I know she would have done the exact same thing for them.
wow scruffy, thats deep and very well written.... but unfortunately I think the answer is a very simple one.... and that is NO! I don't think any child understands how much their parents truly sacrifice for them, I think it is just human nature to take them granted until it is too late. A parents love for a child is usually unconditional and it is hard for a kid to see it any other way when for their whole entire existence... since the very pain their mother felt while giving birth...... their parents have always had to sacrifice for them. That is why they will never truly appreciate the entirety of what their parents have done for them throughout their lives ... because parental sacrifice is something we all expect will always come to us, no matter what! Alizee is only human, so that is why the answer is no.She does not fully understand the sacrifice her parents have done for her, maybe when Annily gets older she will only start to grasp it.
Bigdan
07-10-2010, 04:51 PM
... Alizee is only human...
Stop blasphemy !
:D
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Scruffydog777
07-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Watch this video and dare to tell me you could stand to be away from this this woman for more that a day, if you had a choice in the matter.
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I hope in the next few weeks to improve on some of the video problems with this video.
Deepwaters
07-10-2010, 06:54 PM
If I was married to her, I'd need occasional time apart just like I would in any relationship. (Good thing, too, because I'd have it whether I wanted it or not -- her career takes her away from home a lot.) If I was her father, I'd be happy to see her grown, happy, and on her own, though also happy to have her come visit. Not being able to stand separation for a day is unhealthy.
I really don't know what most parents would do, I just know something about what Jo is like. He's artistic and rebellious. His attitudes cannot be deduced from those of the common herd. One always makes sacrifices for one's children but I really don't think that having her go off under Mylène's wing and become rich and famous was all that great a sacrifice for him. Not like having to watch a sick child go through cancer therapy or see a child get in trouble with the law. He's not the type to get all puritanical about her being sexy on stage, and he's got an artistic career or would-be career of his own, so he wouldn't object to that.
Alizée's mother, Michelle Jacotey, I know nothing about beyond her appearance (which is lovely), but then again, she puts up with Jo, so she can't be completely stodgy. :cool:
There's a tendency among Alizée's fans to get overly sentimental about her and paint aspects of her personal life in sepia tones. No real harm in it, but it bears little relationship to the truth in most cases.
Scruffydog777
07-10-2010, 09:24 PM
If I was married to her, I'd need occasional time apart just like I would in any relationship. (Good thing, too, because I'd have it whether I wanted it or not -- her career takes her away from home a lot.) If I was her father, I'd be happy to see her grown, happy, and on her own, though also happy to have her come visit. Not being able to stand separation for a day is unhealthy.
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Four days a week for over 2 years does not constitute occasional time and at the age of 15, I don't think you'd consider her fully grown.
Deepwaters
07-11-2010, 12:45 AM
So what are you saying, Scruffy? Do you disapprove or something? She was home as often as any kid who goes away to boarding school or more so.
Scruffydog777
07-11-2010, 02:11 PM
So what are you saying, Scruffy? Do you disapprove or something? She was home as often as any kid who goes away to boarding school or more so.
You're right about the boarding school, but that type of school is something they would have probably been mentally prepared for, where as this sudden stardom I'm sure was probably very unexpected.
Now I could be totally wrong here. She might have the most devoted and loving father in the world, who might be perfectly fine with having her gone for 4 days a week, every week as long as he got to see her on the weekends.
But I think in most cases, it would be pretty depressing to have someone like her as a daughter and have her be gone so many days of the year in the unexpected way that she was.
First of all she's a beautiful girl. Having her around the house, must be like having something like the Mona Lisa hanging in your living room. A work of art to treasure. Then you come home one day and find it stolen, in a sort of way.
Then there is the beauty of the person. We don't really know what she is like as a person, but we get glimmers of what she is like by interviews, tv shows, and people who've had the luck of meeting her on a personal basis.
Still we have to do a lot of assuming of what she is like. But there are so many postive indications that I'm sure she is as a wonderful a person as we think she is.
We've never really heard any bad stories about her, but we have heard a lot of good ones. There was one interview at an event where several stars were present, the interviewer said she was the most down to earth, easiest person to talk to there.
I had started work on another video a while back that I was going to call Expressions of Alizée. I was going to put together a bunch of clips showing different facial expressions over the years. I hadn't gotten through the first 2 albums yet and still had 2 more to go, when things got real busy for me and I haven't had time to pursue it any more lately. So I decided to show what I had so far, though I modified it quite a bit for this thread.
I wanted to show the different expresions of hers. The most important ones being when she's not singing, but when she's being interviewed or on tv shows or after she's done singing, where you get a better glimpse of what she is like.
One moment I'd like to point out is at about 50 seconds. A young fan almost pulls her into the audience. Some singers in this country would have bitch slapped him, but Alizée just gets a great big smile on her face.
Then there is when she's about to drive away in a limo and a reporter is trying to ask her a question and while answering, she has a great big smile on her face and even makes a funny face at her.
So many indications that this is just a wonderfully pleasant person to be around.
My point being is if she was gone from anyone's houselhold for more than just a few days in a month, she would be sorely missed.
Know like I said, Jo may have loved her deeply, and might not have had a problem with her being gone 4 days a week, but I think the "average" father would have felt there was a big void in his life where something beautiful and precious used to be.
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VVVACCPLPNLY
07-11-2010, 02:37 PM
Damn scruff, everytime I move a little bt away from her, you pull me back in with one of these videos... That was amazing... :):):)
pepelepew
07-12-2010, 01:53 AM
Another great video Scruffy. Just adorable in every way isn't she?:wub:
RobandSandy
07-12-2010, 12:45 PM
Like any father would want, Im sure Alizée's father and her mother wanted what was best for thier daughter even if it did involve sacrafice. When I was 15 I had become such a problem child that the local police in my town highly recommended to my mother that I be placed into The US Army the minute I became 16. To make me grow up. I was a horror at that age and I will never know how my mom did it with me and my brother. At my 16 birthday the process began for me to be shipped off to Uncle Sam. And before I turned 17 my parental figures had now become Drill Seargents and Officers in The US Army. What type of sacrafice my mother made when she signed over her son to the military I will never know. I know it was a huge one. But my mother wanting the best for her son gladly made that sacrafice for my betterment. And if MF came to me regarding a daughter of mine in the same fashion as Alizées parents were approached, Im sure some of the same conditions should have applied, correspondence schooling, visitation, and close supervision would have been the only way I could have done it. And we can all heartily agree that all of us should feel a certain sense of gratitude to her family for allowing Alizée to pursue her dreams, for in this Alizée has touched us all. And as for education, if Alizée ever needs to further her education at this point in her life she may finance an education at any institution she wishes and pursue any degree she chooses with the money she has already made. Anything worth anything at all in this world generally involves sacrifice in one form or another. And I would like to take this opportunity to thank Alizée and her entire family for making the required sacrafices to launch her career. And ditto many others Scruffy, your story is quite touching, thankyou for sharing that with all of us. It should serve as a reminder to us all about the sacrafices all of our elders have made in our lives.
AlizéeInspired
07-12-2010, 03:56 PM
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Roman
07-13-2010, 02:48 AM
Was it this face? :eek:
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True, some parents see children as a burden, but most see them as a blessing. A lot of parents not only willingly do whatever they can for their kids, but also wish they could do a lot more.
As for Alizée, she'd been going to dance school, and by the time she was "discovered" her parents already knew their girl was far too talented to keep to themselves forever. I think the toughest "sacrifice" parents have to make is when they let their children go.
And if you watch the translations of that Grains de star interview with Jo, as I recall, he said something about Alizée's mother pushing Alizée to do the performance stuff or keep her discipline up in any case. This was success for Alizée's mother as well as Alizée.
So, I'm going to have to say no. I know that every decision precludes the possibility of an alternate decision and maybe for a few years Alizée had to give up time with friends and family and felt lonely sometimes in order to pursue what she has characterized as a dream come true. She has surely had to put up with stuff like paparazzi for a while, but she is living a normal life for the most part and has for several years. (whatever the heck normal is). Maybe I just don't know what normal is because I've never been it. I got to give up a normal life with no achievement to show for it. Anyway, if you want to speak of sacrifice in her life in order to enjoy romanticizing it; well, go ahead then. Otherwise, I'll say that for her sake alone, I hope Alizée does not get too bored and finds enough achievement to maintain a contented life, no sacrifice required. I think I would have been more contented with my life if I had been able to feel like what I've given up out of my "normal" life could have contributed to her success in elevating the lives of others.
Beyond all that, yes Scruffy, I can't imagine what I might feel as a father in Joseph's place, but if I had been in Jérémy's place, for example, I can well imagine never wanting to spend another day of life without her. Of course, I don't know how they live their lives each day; so it indeed is just my imagination.
lapinschous
01-20-2013, 03:40 PM
It must have been really tough on Alizée's parents when she was discovered by MF and LB. In her father's case, most fathers expect that when their daughters graduate from high school, that there's a good chance they might move off to college or maybe a job in a city far away and they're usually mentally prepared for that. But with Alizée, after being discovered, she left school I believe it was 2 years early. Even though from what I've heard, she went home on just about every weekend, I'm sure she spent a lot of time on those weekends with her freinds, telling them all about her experiences and the people she met. So he probably spent little time with her compared to before she was discovered. Knowing he'd be losing so much time with her, it must have been tough for him to let her go. Such a bright spot in his every day life, leaving him far sooner than he ever anticipated. But he allowed her to do it, because he knew it was a chance of a life time for her, knew she'd enjoy what she was doing. He did it knowing he'd be losing the biggest ray of sunshine in his life, because he loved her.
As far as her mother is concerned. From what I read, she traveled with her every where she went, until she was 18. That was what they agreed upon in order for her to drop out of school. Taking correspondence lessons was too a part of the agreement. So her mother left her home, her life, her husband on Corsica, just about every week.. I'm sure she enjoyed many of her days in Paris. But in my line of work, There's been a few occassions where I've been living in one city and working in another far away and I can tell you all that travelling get's old real quick. But she did it. She did it for Alizée.
Her two parents made big sacrifices for her, because they loved her.
I wonder if Alizée realizes how big a sacrifice they made?
When I was a teenager, I had some cousins who due to our love for skiing, became very close. I used to go up to their place to pick them up on the way to the mountains. Now none of us kids had much money. But my aunt, who was seperated, would give what little money she had to her kids, so they could go. I didn't realize til later on in life when I was going through some tough financial times of my own, what a big sacrifice she had made for us. A few years later, after getting married and getting a job that had good travel benefits, I had hoped to take my aunt and my mother who had made sacrifices for me on some trips as a way of repaying them. Well my aunt had arthritis in her knees real bad. She had to go through knee replacement surgery on 2 occassions.. After the first one, I would stop at the hospital every day on my way to work with newspapers, magazines, pictures of our many pets which she loved to see. Nobody else in her family stopped by as often as me.
Then about a month later, she had the second knee replaced. Once again I was visiting her every day. Then there came Valentines day. I had gone down to my parents house to do some remodeling work on their bathroom. I had picked up a box of chocolates that I planned on dropping off at my aunts on the way home. Well the work at my parents place took longer than expected and I was dam tired when I left for the hour long drive to the hospital near my home, so I decided not to go. Well I forget the exact story, but I believe my aunt wasn't supposed to be taking aspirin, but she took it anyways. She had a blood clot and because there was no monitoring equipment on her, she passed away that night. There were a lot of feelings about what happened but I'd just like to say about one of them is that I felt cheated, because I had hoped to repay her more for what she did for us.
So I'm just wondering does Alizée know how big a sacrifice her parents made for her. I'm sure she probably does and I know she would have done the exact same thing for them.
Wooah... Dave, that was intense, made my eyes water...
But I personally believe , that Mylène became sort of a sister to fill part of the gap caused by the distance.
Here is the one and only public appearance of both Alizée and Mylène (jump to 5:10) :
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