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Fèvier
01-08-2011, 08:39 AM
MOD EDIT:

More specific release date: February 25th, 2013 according to her radio interview on MFMRadio which she confirmed on the show.

Alizée Newsletter:
The day has arrived, finally! Don't wait to see Alizée's new clip. The music video, "Because of the Fall," produced by Arnaud Delord (Gorillaz, BB Brunes...), is a stylized reference to the famous James Bond series. "Because of the Fall" is the first single from her fifth album releasing this February.

Alizée Newsletter:
Le jour J est arrivé, enfin ! N'attendez plus pour découvrir le nouveau clip d'Alizée. La vidéo "A cause de l'automne", réalisée par Arnaud Delord (Gorillaz, BB Brunes...) est une allusion stylisée aux génériques de James Bond. "A cause de l'automne" est le premier extrait annonciateur de son cinquième album qui sortira en février.


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Posted on Facebook a few minutes ago by psychalizee.net:

Rumeur: (source : IllogicallMusic Collectors) : "ALIZEE COMMENCE A PENSER A SON RETOUR AVEC UN NOUVEL ALBUM POP". Alizee Will be back With a pop album. ( Rumor)

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae122/ptjmwa/untitled-9.jpg





Seems legit! Oh happy day it is! :D

Scruffydog777
01-08-2011, 08:50 AM
With my very limited French, I believe it said She's starting to think about her returning with a new pop album. If there's any truth to this, I guess it means a return to what worked for her to begin with and it also sounds like it's just an idea at the moment.

babyblue558
01-08-2011, 10:13 AM
a return to what worked for her to begin with and it also sounds like it's just an idea at the moment.

Oh please can it be true!!!! :D:D:D

Uroboros
01-08-2011, 10:33 AM
Oh please can it be true!!!! :D:D:D

[2] That would be awesome! :)

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 10:52 AM
*Armpump*
Sweeeeet

Kronos
01-08-2011, 11:06 AM
It'd be nice to see a more "general mass" pop album once again, although I hope and believe that she won't go back to music that sounds alot like her first two albums just for the sake of sales.

One of the things I respect most about her is that she, as she said herself, currently does music the way she wants it. If electro was her thing it'd be sad to see her throw all that away just because it wasn't popular. But then again electro probably didn't bring her as close to her fans as she wanted.

Personally, I think this rumour is a bit too soon with UEDS not having been out for even a year, I would like to see some sort of tour, small if anything, before UEDS is cast aside.

I have never really been a true fan of anyone else than Lili, so is it normal for singers to start working on a new album quickly if the latest one doesn't do well? She did have the chance to perform alot more with Psych than UEDS, so maybe she is eager to get back to that?

Corsaire
01-08-2011, 11:13 AM
With my very limited French, I believe it said She's starting to think about her returning with a new pop album. If there's any truth to this, I guess it means a return to what worked for her to begin with and it also sounds like it's just an idea at the moment.

You are right about the “starting to think” part in the French version. Also the “son retour” (her return) instead of just “un retour” (a return) gives it a meaning:

Closer to:
“she has taken the decision to release a new pop album, but is just starting to think about getting the process going”

Then :
“she is starting to think about the possibility of making a return with a pop album”

Some people will surely tell you that it means this or that for sure, but I think there is room for some interpretation there.

Who posts on this Facebook account? How official is this?

MYGOGT
01-08-2011, 11:51 AM
I don't believe UEDS was meant to be a concert type of album. But with a new album that could be concert material then perhaps a couple UEDS songs could be integrated into a tour.????

ALS
01-08-2011, 01:31 PM
I think she is going back to what works. The Child of the Century was a concept album that didn't meet her sales expectations. When your selling 500K Cds you can do a concept album once and a while. In Alizée's case it isn't something you want to do when your not at the top of your game as they say. I think going back to a more mass appealing musical style is a very positive move on her part. :)

Junkmale
01-08-2011, 02:18 PM
I can't see it happening any time soon but i'm sure the thought of a new album is in her mind.
I would imagine that it takes a long time to prepare so wouldn't be at all surprised if the very initial preps are going ahead.

woohoo
01-08-2011, 02:28 PM
Woot! I love pop and Alizée pop is the best. UEDS was great but if this happens i think it will be even better.

VVVACCPLPNLY
01-08-2011, 03:16 PM
I think it would be better, but it's a rumor. And two albums, in two years? More active artists don't do that much. it's possible but I won't get my hopes up. Besides, if it is true, it won't be until maybe early or most likely mid 2012.

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 03:23 PM
I think it would be better, but it's a rumor. And two albums, in two years? More active artists don't do that much. it's possible but I won't get my hopes up. Besides, if it is true, it won't be until maybe early or most likely mid 2012.

Then it's official, Alizée's album is what will end the world. We're all going to die in the happiest way possible

Rev
01-08-2011, 03:37 PM
I think she is going back to what works. The Child of the Century was a concept album that didn't meet her sales expectations. When your selling 500K Cds you can do a concept album once and a while. In Alizée's case it isn't something you want to do when your not at the top of your game as they say. I think going back to a more mass appealing musical style is a very positive move on her part. :)

Absolutely.


Then it's official, Alizée's album is what will end the world. We're all going to die in the happiest way possible

Actually, the Earth will just be going through an energetic shift. What better way for this to be celebrated than a new album from Alizée (maybe she could even include a song or two about the new world coming). :)

Azhiri
01-08-2011, 04:06 PM
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE LET IT BE TRUUUUUE

please!

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 04:07 PM
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE LET IT BE TRUUUUUE

please!


The world ending? or the CD?

Azhiri
01-08-2011, 04:39 PM
The CD! :D

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 04:46 PM
The CD! :D

Oh well then me too!
That makes alot more sense:D

user472884
01-08-2011, 04:47 PM
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AlizéeInspired
01-08-2011, 04:49 PM
Awesome!!! :D Maybe I'll be able to get myself to one of those autograph sessions by the time the album comes out. Plenty of time to start saving :D


Actually, the Earth will just be going through an energetic shift. What better way for this to be celebrated than a new album from Alizée (maybe she could even include a song or two about the new world coming). :)

Finally! Someone else who knows what's going on!

Corsaire
01-08-2011, 05:11 PM
Wow! Many people here seem to be thinking that it is possible that Alizée will soon produce something they have been waiting to hear for a long time, but...

- This might just be a rumour (right?)
- One could just about imply anything with the formulation of the sentence (the French part)
- "album pop" could just about be anything, including French versions of Britney Spears hits :eek:

Why are you guys so happy about this piece of news? Am I missing something?

Edit:

Or maybe all the talk on this forum about UEDS being a very good album was not that serious after all...

Uroboros
01-08-2011, 05:19 PM
Wow! Many people here seem to be thinking that it is possible that Alizée will soon produce something they have been waiting to hear for a long time, but...

- This might just be a rumour (right?)
- One could just about imply anything with the formulation of the sentence (the French part)
- "album pop" could just about be anything, including French versions of Britney Spears hits :eek:

Why are you guys so happy about this piece of news? Am I missing something?

You ruined my day! :(
Just kidding :D

AlizéeInspired
01-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Why are you guys so happy about this piece of news? Am I missing something?


Mostly because there is so little news, we tend to jump on things rather quickly with a lot of excitement. We're just being typical, crazy fans hoping for the best :)

Corsaire
01-08-2011, 05:22 PM
You ruined my day! :(
Just kidding :D

Uro, you know I just don't want people to get all exited and then depressed... Right?

Uroboros
01-08-2011, 05:28 PM
Mostly because there is so little news, we tend to jump on things rather quickly with a lot of excitement. We're just being typical, crazy fans hoping for the best :)

Wise words, my friend! :)

Edit:

Uro, you know I just don't want people to get all exited and then depressed... Right?

Yes! :)
That was just a joke ;)
By the way, I'm not so excited yet, we shouldn't be, this is only the first rumor.

Corsaire
01-08-2011, 05:40 PM
- "album pop" could just about be anything, including French versions of Britney Spears hits :eek:



I’m sorry people...
How can I ever think this could be possible?

I agree to be the first AAm member ever to be whipped on the back 100 times by Alizée as long as I can stare at her through a mirror while she is whipping me.

Uroboros
01-08-2011, 05:43 PM
I’m sorry people...
How can I ever think this could be possible?

I agree to be the first AAm member ever to be whipped on the back 100 times by Alizée as long as I can stare at her through a mirror while she is whipping me.

Lol! That's the best punishment ever! :wub:

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 05:48 PM
I’m sorry people...
How can I ever think this could be possible?

I agree to be the first AAm member ever to be whipped on the back 100 times by Alizée as long as I can stare at her through a mirror while she is whipping me.


No way man i already have dibs :P

User22
01-08-2011, 06:14 PM
I don't believe UEDS was meant to be a concert type of album. But with a new album that could be concert material then perhaps a couple UEDS songs could be integrated into a tour.????

You know what, this makes very good sense.

Notice how Alizee did Gourmandises and MCE and THEN she did the tour. And due to Psych's success in Mexico, she did another tour.

So we can see that every one or 2 albums she did a tour.

Maybe she will not do a tour or even a small series of concerts for UEDS, and do a new album and then do a tour for both UEDS and her new album.

Man...days like these are just :wub: Gotta love coming onto the forum and seeing amazing rumors :D

Scruffydog777
01-08-2011, 06:28 PM
Then it's official, Alizée's album is what will end the world. We're all going to die in the happiest way possible

Well there are a lot who believe there will be some type world ending calamity in 2012, so it all makes perfect sense. If the world does end next year, I want to be listening to her new album while I'm treading water.

Wow! Many people here seem to be thinking that it is possible that Alizée will soon produce something they have been waiting to hear for a long time, but...

- This might just be a rumour (right?)
- One could just about imply anything with the formulation of the sentence (the French part)
- "album pop" could just about be anything, including French versions of Britney Spears hits :eek:

Why are you guys so happy about this piece of news? Am I missing something?



Edit:

Or maybe all the talk on this forum about UEDS being a very good album was not that serious after all...

You are 110% correct that this is just a rumor at this point, but we hear so little news from day to day, week to week, month to month that we grasp at straws.

Some people might think that a return to pop might mean a return to songs like ML and JAM and I'm sure that will never happen. I think it means a return to songs like ACC, L'Alize, JPVA, A quoi Rêve une jeune fille , tempete,L'e-mail a des ailes, Hey Amigo ,etc which would be awesome in my book. I certainly wasn't a fan of Psych and I definitely prefered her first 2 albums over UEDS, so for me this is welcome news.

Why are we so happy?
Well I can't speak for anyone else here but Alizée's music changed my life. At least MEC and Gour did and to think there's just a glimmer of a chance that we might be gettting more along a similar line is something I just can't help but get excited about.

MYGOGT
01-08-2011, 06:39 PM
The world ending? or the CD?

Well, if she releases an Earth shattering album the world will certainly come to an end!

User22
01-08-2011, 06:45 PM
Why are we so happy?
Well I can't speak for anyone else here but Alizée's music changed my life. At least MEC and Gour did and to think there's just a glimmer of a chance that we might be gettting more along a similar line is something I just can't help but get excited about.

Ahhh we think the same way haha. Just knowing there is hope makes me so Foamely Ecstatic :D

(Man I was going to post the picture of Alizee on FunTV with the album with a "?" on it because I thought it seemed appropriate....but my "Part 2" doesn't play and the video on the site is lagging :(...man....)

mercenaries16
01-08-2011, 07:28 PM
a new album ..... i think its too soon for a new album if she releases a new album she will kill UEDS

VVVACCPLPNLY
01-08-2011, 08:48 PM
Finally! Someone else who knows what's going on!

Wow I know right????
I tell people all the time that the Mayans didn't predict the end of the world on 2012, they predicted a major shift in the history of the earth! And then nothing past that. It may not be negative, they never said it was. It's just the begginning of a new cycle according to their calender. Jeeze people always assume the worst.

Iwillmeether
01-08-2011, 08:51 PM
I honestly dont believe anything is going to happen, I will end up laughing at all of you.

User22
01-09-2011, 12:12 AM
a new album ..... i think its too soon for a new album if she releases a new album she will kill UEDS

She can't kill UEDS if it was already dead :p Gosh, I make bad jokes...

And you conspirasists, if you want to talk about 2012 then go make your own thread :p haha.

But anyway...I wonder if there is a way we can get confirmation from Alizee that she has new ideas for an album....

Merci Alizée
01-09-2011, 12:23 AM
But anyway...I wonder if there is a way we can get confirmation from Alizee that she has new ideas for an album....
yeah, just call and ask her. :p

Azhiri
01-09-2011, 12:26 AM
I honestly dont believe anything is going to happen, I will end up laughing at all of you.

You seemed pretty excited at the beginning of the thread. :p

User22
01-09-2011, 12:49 AM
You seemed pretty excited at the beginning of the thread. :p

I am quite sure he was referring to VVV's post about 2012. I might be wrong(I'm not :p)

Azhiri
01-09-2011, 01:06 AM
In that case nevermind ;P

User22
01-09-2011, 01:08 AM
In that case nevermind ;P

Don't worry no one saw that.

Anyway...any more news on this piece of news?

pepelepew
01-09-2011, 02:54 AM
I saw a new Matrix video on youtube this week and he states that Alizee is hooking back up with MF/LB for a new collaboration album. Maybe he knows something we don't. It would be a first as he makes all kind of claims just to get a rise out of fans. He is obcessed with Alizee and seems to know a lot about her none the less. It would be very interesting what they could come up with at this stage of Alizee's career and maturity.

Rev
01-09-2011, 04:37 AM
I saw a new Matrix video on youtube this week and he states that Alizee is hooking back up with MF/LB for a new collaboration album. Maybe he knows something we don't. It would be a first as he makes all kind of claims just to get a rise out of fans. He is obcessed with Alizee and seems to know a lot about her none the less. It would be very interesting what they could come up with at this stage of Alizee's career and maturity.

Matrix makes great videos, but don't believe any rumors sourced from him. That particular "rumor" is simply his greatest wish. :)

Topaz
01-09-2011, 04:46 AM
@Aaronius31:

Nous y voilà ;)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/cap02.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/cap01.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/small-1-2-1.gif

Fèvier
01-09-2011, 04:55 AM
@Aaronius31:

Nous y voilà ;)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/cap02.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/cap01.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/alizee_1984/small-1-2-1.gif

She's just too cute! I love that interview! One of my favorites :wub:

Ronald
01-09-2011, 06:55 AM
A new album? That would be great, though it's still less that a year that her previous album was released. But it is possible, hopefully we get some sort of comfirmation by someone more reliable.....

For some reason it has made my day: It's sunday, sunny outside, and this rumor:D

Nothing else that I need at the moment:rolleyes:

Tony T
01-09-2011, 05:29 PM
I doubt a new album will be coming out in the next 2+ yrs, if at all. I'm all for quality, not quantity. Two albums in less than 2yrs?...no thanks! Content will be rushed, thus quality of music will suffer. If she's serious about having another "pop" album, then she needs to take her time.

Plus, are we supposed to believe a rumor about this, especially something posted on FACEBOOK of all things. (?)

severianb
01-09-2011, 11:44 PM
A talented and/or inspired crew can make a quality album in very little time. UEDS was finished well over a year ago, so anything is possible. Before another album, I suspect she will do some more collaborations with other artists, looking for something that works.

My crystal ball fails me at that point though. Another attempt at pop music? I suspect any company backing such a thing would require her to unleash the sex bomb before they would fund it. I don't think she wants to do that... but maybe she's had enough of a break from that "sexy" side and wants to explore it again.

Who really knows? It's Lilly. The randomness can drive you crazy, and suprise you wonderfully!

pepelepew
01-10-2011, 12:27 AM
If Alizee teams up with already proven producers and quality musicians I could see a record company taking the risk. I could see Alizee joining an already established band as their new lead singer. That would be interesting as well. I really don't care as long as she continues to make music.:)

severianb
01-10-2011, 01:20 AM
If Alizee teams up with already proven producers and quality musicians I could see a record company taking the risk. I could see Alizee joining an already established band as their new lead singer. That would be interesting as well. I really don't care as long as she continues to make music.:)

Agreed. :D

Deepwaters
01-10-2011, 02:45 AM
The rumor is only that she's in the thinking-it-out stage, not that a new album is about to be released. All this is really telling us is that she hasn't given up, which is good news. We also have a hint (along with the Christmas song) that she may be going in a more pop/rock direction rather than pure electro. And that's really all we can take away here. It's all good, but don't get too breathless. ;)

jung_adore_ALIZEE
01-10-2011, 01:06 PM
I doubt a new album will be coming out in the next 2+ yrs, if at all. I'm all for quality, not quantity. Two albums in less than 2yrs?...no thanks! Content will be rushed, thus quality of music will suffer. If she's serious about having another "pop" album, then she needs to take her time.

Two albums in less than two years, sounds like what a lot of bands actually do. Can't say that it's ever hurt the quality of most albums. I do agree that you probably won't hear a new album from her for a while yet. Just throwing it out there that it doesn't take years to produce an album.

Regards,

Jung

Fèvier
01-10-2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah I remember hearing about a band that recorded an album in 6 days. The name of the band escapes me right now :/

Iwillmeether
01-10-2011, 01:28 PM
Deathklok! lol not rly
-"We recorded this album in 6 days in a studio in West Orange, New Jersey. It was the band's first trip to the USA, our first time to see snow, freeways, Cadillacs, and 6" televisions" -Peter Furler, 2000
the band was the newsboys

jung_adore_ALIZEE
01-10-2011, 02:50 PM
Yeah I remember hearing about a band that recorded an album in 6 days. The name of the band escapes me right now :/

Well Jandek has done 65 in 32 years.

Just read this comment on a Korpiklaani video a couple minutes ago "Wtf is up with Korpiklaani, they produce many albums in a short amount of time, but the quality isn't starting to decrease."

Regards,

Jung

BlackAnthem
01-10-2011, 03:02 PM
This news can knock someone right out of depression. I'm just checking back for sec. This is intense. Email me if it's true: ConCircus@aol.com

Människöpesten
01-10-2011, 07:24 PM
yeah it's....REALLY not that difficult to record an album. what i suppose CAN make it take longer is the mastering and finer details....but still...it's no where near 2+ years. what usually takes up that time.... is touring and publicity. for which there has been little to none for this album

Chuck
01-10-2011, 11:51 PM
The rumor is only that she's in the thinking-it-out stage, not that a new album is about to be released. All this is really telling us is that she hasn't given up, which is good news. We also have a hint (along with the Christmas song) that she may be going in a more pop/rock direction rather than pure electro. And that's really all we can take away here. It's all good, but don't get too breathless. ;)

As for new material, well pop or whatever it may be, sign me up on that preorder list! I'm just glad to hear (even if it's from the rumor mill) that she isn't giving up on us and sacking her career.

I had mentioned here a couple weeks ago that I'd be happiest if the new album was a return to the "Psych" sound and style, but honestly, I'll be delighted if she records anything - even gregorian chants (and I think this is how most of us feel here).


BUT I'M QUOTING OUR GOOD FRIEND DEEPWATERS HERE BECAUSE HE MENTIONS "CHRISTMAS SONG". It's not the first time I've heard tell of this, yet my cursory searches have revealed nothing. WAS THERE REALLY A NEW XMAS 2010 SONG, AND I TOTALLY MISSED IT??? D'Ohhhh!!!!

HELLLPPPP!!!! Somebody, please fill me in! If such a thing exists, where can I find it?
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

AlizéeInspired
01-11-2011, 12:01 AM
As for new material, well pop or whatever it may be, sign me up on that preorder list! I'm just glad to hear (even if it's from the rumor mill) that she isn't giving up on us and sacking her career.

I had mentioned here a couple weeks ago that I'd be happiest if the new album was a return to the "Psych" sound and style, but honestly, I'll be delighted if she records anything - even gregorian chants (and I think this is how most of us feel here).


BUT I'M QUOTING OUR GOOD FRIEND DEEPWATERS HERE BECAUSE HE MENTIONS "CHRISTMAS SONG". It's not the first time I've heard tell of this, yet my cursory searches have revealed nothing. WAS THERE REALLY A NEW XMAS 2010 SONG, AND I TOTALLY MISSED IT??? D'Ohhhh!!!!

HELLLPPPP!!!! Somebody, please fill me in! If such a thing exists, where can I find it?
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:

Hey now... Gregorian chant is quite nice, I think.

Here's the Christmas song from 2010:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylK0SJ0uAGU&feature=player_embedded

I really enjoyed it :). It will make you feel like it's still the holidays.

Chuck
01-11-2011, 12:50 AM
Whoah, thanks AI! That's AWESOME. But does anybody know - is there an mp3 file of this thing available?

I already like it better than last year's song. And last year's song was pretty darn good...except:::

..I always had a problem with the chorus! I can't make heads or tails of that last line: "It's Christmas and it won't be the last / It's Christmas so forget about your past / It's Christmas and we'll all be all right / So please this Christmas, don't mumble mumble garble garble glorp" ! Seriously! (Way to screw up the whole effort, Tahiti Boy!)

Okay, so I guess I've got two questions here: 1) mp3 of this year's song? and 2) what the heck were the words they were singing last year??? (or what the heck were they eating while they were singing?) :confused:

EDIT:
As for my question #1, I'm okay now, Fèvier has shown me the true (download) path already. Thanks, Fèvier!!!

User22
01-11-2011, 12:56 AM
1) Link provided by Alizee on fbook: http://soundcloud.com/3rd-side-records/such-a-special-time-its-xmas-tonight

Edcognito
01-13-2011, 08:49 AM
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE LET IT BE TRUUUUUE

please!
Mostly because there is so little news, we tend to jump on things rather quickly with a lot of excitement. We're just being typical, crazy fans hoping for the best :)


Welcome to 2006... :D

Ed:cool:

User22
01-13-2011, 09:46 AM
Welcome to 2006...

Sweet that means we've got a year until the album just randomly comes out without anyone even knowing it was being made the whole time :D

Countdown starting.....now!

Naft
01-13-2011, 09:56 AM
2 albums in 2 years? It'll cause an overload for 90% of the members on here, causing them to enter a deep state of trance until 2014.

User22
01-13-2011, 09:58 AM
2 albums in 2 years? It'll cause an overload for 90% of the members on here, causing them to enter a deep state of trance until 2014.

Correction: 2012.

And this is perfect, because like Scruffy said, we'll die listening to her new music and therefore we'll die happy :D

Edcognito
02-03-2011, 08:51 AM
Any further news on this front?

mercenaries16
02-03-2011, 11:30 AM
OMG !! its just me or the xmas song sounds awesome :) i think that if alizee makes an albums that sounds 10 % like this sound the world will become crazy of happines hearing alizee but its just my opinion :p and what a song !!!XD

DrSmith
02-03-2011, 11:50 AM
OMG !! its just me or the xmas song sounds awesome :)

It's not just you. ;):p

Best part @0:39–1:23

Euphoria
02-03-2011, 12:41 PM
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with having rather....consecutive albums. Meaning, coming out with an album a year after one is released isn't really a big deal.

Naft
02-03-2011, 12:47 PM
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with having rather....consecutive albums. Meaning, coming out with an album a year after one is released isn't really a big deal.
Seeing as the other albums had an interval of like 3 years apart, it is a big deal! :eek::eek::eek:

Marquis<3Alizée
02-03-2011, 01:15 PM
WHOA!!!! Why didn't anybody tell me about this!!!!!???

Fèvier
02-03-2011, 01:20 PM
WHOA!!!! Why didn't anybody tell me about this!!!!!???

You're way behind my friend. :p

Marquis<3Alizée
02-03-2011, 01:47 PM
You're way behind my friend. :p

Yeah I know and I regret it!

Mon Maquis
02-03-2011, 01:53 PM
From what I know they are supposed to be released on the Alizeestore.com

I know there was about 5 songs from what I was told.

Naft
02-03-2011, 04:29 PM
From what I know they are supposed to be released on the Alizeestore.com

I know there was about 5 songs from what I was told.

The songs as a sale individually, like iTunes?
An album, like UEDS is there already?
A limited edition one, like UEDS was on some website for the first 200 that ordered it?

I need more info! :confused:

Azhiri
02-03-2011, 04:59 PM
What what WHAT? New songs? Soon? YAY!

Kronos
02-03-2011, 05:12 PM
From what I know they are supposed to be released on the Alizeestore.com

I know there was about 5 songs from what I was told.

From what I know Lili is going to fly across the planet on a broom handing out the album which would have 50 songs, not 5.

But that is just from what I was told.

(See how my statement could be just as true as yours when I don't provide sources?)

Naft
02-03-2011, 05:18 PM
From what I know Lili is going to fly across the planet on a broom handing out the album which would have 50 songs, not 5.

But that is just from what I was told.

(See how my statement could be just as true as yours when I don't provide sources?)
Nono you silly, Lili flies on a cloud, not a broom.

user472884
02-03-2011, 05:24 PM
I think we should organize who's going to Paris this time.

If y'all want to set up a fund for me, I'll volunteer :]

User22
02-03-2011, 06:14 PM
I doubt there will be a big release and signing for it, since after all this will be an EP.

Karin
02-03-2011, 06:25 PM
I doubt there will be a big release and signing for it, since after all this will be an EP.

EP with unreleased songs (however it was never official said by Ali oh her FB, blog or site) ... I hope it will be this year :D

BlackAnthem
02-03-2011, 06:27 PM
New Album!? :'D OMG *Faints* *So excited comes back to senses* *Faints, again*

severianb
02-04-2011, 12:35 AM
From what I know Lili is going to fly across the planet on a broom handing out the album which would have 50 songs, not 5.

But that is just from what I was told.

(See how my statement could be just as true as yours when I don't provide sources?)

I admit it, I laughed.

As a fan, I hope the "in the know" folks aren't pulling things out of their rear ends. My bitter, jaded side is fighting these positive thoughts. I like having honey poured in my ear, though.... 'tis a pleasant fantasy.

Azhiri
02-07-2011, 03:04 AM
FRESH FROM LILLY'S NEST:

"Exclu : le nouvel album d'Alizée est prévue fin 2012. Annulation de l'EP. Un "retour aux sources" musicalement parlant est fort probable (mais pas avec Mylène Farmer)"

translated:

"Excluded: Alizée's new album is scheduled for late 2012. Cancellation of the EP. A "homecoming" is musically very likely (but not with Mylène Farmer)"

AAAAAAAAAAAH. It's official, folks. The world is indeed ending in 2012.

What do they mean by "homecoming"? Will she be returning to her original tried-and-true style? I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait. This has been a lovely, lovely night.

Chuck
02-07-2011, 03:16 AM
AAAAAAhhhhHHHhh, Ahhzhiri! Way to report some news! No EP, though?

"Homecoming". "un retour aux sources", returning to sources, returning to roots... Could mean a lot of things. Could mean Corsican nursery tunes, even. But that would be strange, not a "good" kind of homecoming thing. So I don't know. Sounds like it'll be good, though! :p

user472884
02-07-2011, 03:44 AM
You had me at "nouvel album"

Merci Alizée
02-07-2011, 05:42 AM
I would rather keep my fingers crossed till the album is released. By homecoming, I guess they mean return to old style.

Karin
02-07-2011, 06:04 AM
I guess they mean return to old style.

yea... but with sexy image, sexy dancing like before? we must wait :D
but so bad that will be no EP :(

Fèvier
02-07-2011, 07:26 AM
Hmm... The release date wouldn't happen to be December 21 would it? Jeje. Im so happy now! :D

lalorocks
02-07-2011, 09:21 AM
2012> I think that she wants to have another baby...

Karin
02-07-2011, 09:54 AM
or she just want make very good album, so she needs more time :p

babyblue558
02-07-2011, 10:53 AM
Oh my lawd what an amazing surprise to come home from school to. So it's official or am I just overreacting???? Happyhappyhappy

User22
02-07-2011, 11:39 AM
1) I need a clean pair of pants.
2) I think Alizée will go above and beyond where she started with this next album just because she will most likely promote more to get it right this time.
3) I love rumors and speculating about rumors :D
4) Thanks Lilly's Nest and Azhiri for cheering me up when I've been sick :)
5) Well Guys, I think we might finally get to meet her :D

Euphoria
02-07-2011, 12:38 PM
Great, she's probably gonna be 30 by the time the next album is out. :rolleyes:

User22
02-07-2011, 01:21 PM
Hopefully that doesn't happen Euphoria haha.

But yeah like your saying, I hope she sticks to a deadline and gets work done.

babyblue558
02-07-2011, 01:51 PM
Great, she's probably gonna be 30 by the time the next album is out. :rolleyes:

To be honest that wouldn't bother me - any promise of new Alizée will keep me going no matter how long I have to wait. In fact, the more time she takes then logically the better the album should be so I'm all for giving it a few years. As it stands, a return to pop sounds absolutely fabulous, and I'm certain she can make it big again as long as she gets a decent set of producers on her side.

User22
02-07-2011, 02:00 PM
as long as she gets a decent set of producers on her side.

Haha I know a couple good French producers that could make her pretty big :p

user472884
02-07-2011, 02:02 PM
Great, she's probably gonna be 30 by the time the next album is out. :rolleyes:

wait... did no one tell you?

You know she completely stopped aging after 22, right?

I thought we had already gone over that at the last clan meet?

Toc De Mac
02-07-2011, 02:18 PM
w00tw00t :D

Scruffydog777
02-07-2011, 03:29 PM
FRESH FROM LILLY'S NEST:

"Exclu : le nouvel album d'Alizée est prévue fin 2012. Annulation de l'EP. Un "retour aux sources" musicalement parlant est fort probable (mais pas avec Mylène Farmer)"

translated:

"Excluded: Alizée's new album is scheduled for late 2012. Cancellation of the EP. A "homecoming" is musically very likely (but not with Mylène Farmer)"

AAAAAAAAAAAH. It's official, folks. The world is indeed ending in 2012.

What do they mean by "homecoming"? Will she be returning to her original tried-and-true style? I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait. This has been a lovely, lovely night.

I'm hoping that it means that in addition to some new songs, she will sing some of her original songs in there original format. Tempete, Lou ou toi, Amelie m'a dit, A Quoi Reve Une Jeune Fille, J'en ai marre. It would be so awesome to hear her sing those songs again.

Fenris
02-07-2011, 03:46 PM
"Le nouvel album d'Alizée est prévue fin 2012. Un EP initialement prévue début 2011 via le site www.alizeestore.com avec l'équipe d'Institubes est annulé."

Am i the only one here who realizes that this probably means that her partnership with Institube is at an end? This would probably mean that UEDS is dead too -> no more singles and certainly no concerts!

Get ready for a loooong wait.
Ofc i could be wrong, but who knows anything for sure when it comes to Alizée.

Karin
02-07-2011, 04:13 PM
"Le nouvel album d'Alizée est prévue fin 2012. Un EP initialement prévue début 2011 via le site www.alizeestore.com avec l'équipe d'Institubes est annulé."

Am i the only one here who realizes that this probably means that her partnership with Institube is at an end? This would probably mean that UEDS is dead too -> no more singles and certainly no concerts!

Get ready for a loooong wait.
Ofc i could be wrong, but who knows anything for sure when it comes to Alizée.

yeap, UEDS is dead... EP cancelled, rumors about new album - so no time for new single or concert/tour

Euphoria
02-07-2011, 04:40 PM
wait... did no one tell you?

You know she completely stopped aging after 22, right?

I thought we had already gone over that at the last clan meet?

Eh...I dunno. Shes still beautiful but she definitely looks more mature. She looks a bit tired these days too, in her cat scarf pictures she was looking pretty rough.

User22
02-07-2011, 04:42 PM
I wish Alizée would confirm things on facebook or twitter just so we don't walk around in a fog...

lefty12357
02-07-2011, 04:43 PM
If this rumor is true, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I would be very happy to know Alizée is planning to do another album. One the other hand, 2 years is a long time to wait. It definitely shouldn't have to take nearly that long and I wonder how she can already know that it will. Which does lead one to wonder if the reason is that she's planning on having another baby. If she's going to do it, I don't think she can put it off much longer.

I'm not surprised that she may be ending her Institubes relationship, as well as no EP or concerts. Maybe she will work with Jeremy again. Either way, I guess we will have to just wait and see if something more official comes out about this.

Karin
02-07-2011, 04:51 PM
One the other hand, 2 years is a long time to wait. It definitely shouldn't have to take nearly that long and I wonder how she can already know that it will.

yeap, its too long... and remember, 2 previous albums had many release dates (UEDS sept, oct, nov 2009 and finally it was in march 2010), so it can happen by new album too... it can be released in 2013...


I wish Alizée would confirm things on facebook or twitter just so we don't walk around in a fog...

that would be good, to hear it official... cause nobody knows if its true or not, like with EP (she never said that it will be)... :(

rj.bagby
02-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Maybe "The Doors"
Yeah I remember hearing about a band that recorded an album in 6 days. The name of the band escapes me right now :/

babyblue558
02-07-2011, 06:10 PM
Haha I know a couple good French producers that could make her pretty big :p

As much as I would love that to happen... I don't think it will. There are plenty more [producing] fish in the sea, Alizée. :rolleyes:

lefty12357
02-07-2011, 07:34 PM
Yeah I remember hearing about a band that recorded an album in 6 days. The name of the band escapes me right now :/

The Beatles recorded their first album in 1 day. It took them less than 10 hours and they even had a song left over!

I know a lot of people would like to see Alizée work with MF/LB again, and I love the music they made together. But she really did need to move on, but I find the idea of getting back to her roots musically to be encouraging. If it indeed does take 2 years, I hope Alizée maintains some sort of ongoing relationship with the fans. A bit of news here and there and maybe a photo once in a while. I am just concerned that a 2 year absence may bleed off more people from her fan base, which she really can't afford.

babyblue558
02-07-2011, 07:41 PM
If it indeed does take 2 years, I hope Alizée maintains some sort of ongoing relationship with the fans. A bit of news here and there and maybe a photo once in a while. I am just concerned that a 2 year absence may bleed off more people from her fan base, which she really can't afford.

True that. I reckon the odd appearance at an event such as the Gainsbourg tribute concert should keep us going. Also this is when she really needs to sort out her online promotion... today, literally every other pop artist in the know has a regularly updated *COUGH* blog / twitter account to reassure fans that they're still about and still planning on doing more music. Alizée has both of these but uses them pretty rarely compared to most artists who update every week (or even every day in some cases that spring to mind).

Scruffydog777
02-07-2011, 08:30 PM
2 years is way too long. If it takes that long, Alizee will probably lose most of the fans she has left. We've waited paitently for UEDS concerts or tours. In the mean time we've discussed everything under the sun, her nose, her legs, her lips. I honestly feel if it takes 2 years, this forum will no longer be here, unless she starts being more communicative with her fans.

Merci Alizée
02-07-2011, 08:56 PM
2 years is way too long. If it takes that long, Alizee will probably lose most of the fans she has left. We've waited patiently for UEDS concerts or tours. In the mean time we've discussed everything under the sun, her nose, her legs, her lips. I honestly feel if it takes 2 years, this forum will no longer be here, unless she starts being more communicative with her fans.

I also feel the same. If it goes like another 2 dead years, then it might be very difficult to many of her fans.

Rev
02-07-2011, 08:56 PM
...Alizée's new album is scheduled for late 2012. Cancellation of the EP. A "homecoming" is musically very likely (but not with Mylène Farmer)"....

Sounds like she will move back towards that style of music, but with new writers (not MF/LB). Perhaps she will even dance a bit.


If so, this sounds good. It worked for her then, and could work again.

With regards to the timing, I'm guessing that she smply is not underestimating the time it will take to put it together. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised. :)

Azhiri
02-07-2011, 09:16 PM
You're welcome, Aaron. ;)

I'm sure Alizee has learned from UEdS and its "aftermath" if you will. She appears to have lost fans and hopefully she has checked the forums for feedback. If she has, maybe she'll keep us up-to-date on what's going on with the album and maybe be a bit more communicative. And if not, I suppose we'll get a better idea of what Alizee wants and how dedicated she is to her career.

I think the possibility of a "homecoming" is indicative in itself that she's been listening and she wants to succeed. :)

User22
02-07-2011, 09:17 PM
I also feel the same. If it goes like another 2 dead years, then it might be very difficult to many of her fans.

Now see, if she would just release a new picture of her every week for the next two years, I think this forum would flourish like never before :D

woohoo
02-07-2011, 09:25 PM
yeah this eta is really far away, but if she puts out pics or real quick vids to her fans it would be bare-able.
On another note Yelle is getting a lot of support in the US, a us/canada tour. (I hope to see the event in D.C.). If more support them Alizee might become more interested in the US.

Mon Maquis
02-07-2011, 10:17 PM
On another note Yelle is getting a lot of support in the US, a us/canada tour. (I hope to see the event in D.C.). If more support them Alizee might become more interested in the US.

Yes, you must be willing to come to the US. As for Yelle, she is opening Fashion Week in New York next week, if anyone is going to it.

User22
02-07-2011, 10:35 PM
You know Yelle is popular when kids at my school wear t-shirts of her :p

But yeah, I'm guessing the reason it is going to take two years to make the album is she is going to Americanize it and start planning a tour already for it :D Hopefully we'll only have to buy tickets this time around, and not plane tickets :D

Plaz
02-07-2011, 11:01 PM
lol 2 years? it really isnt that long... if you think about how long it took for Psychédélices to come out

User22
02-07-2011, 11:06 PM
lol 2 years? it really isnt that long... if you think about how long it took for Psychédélices to come out

Actually that is a good point!

Both Psych and UEDS were a 3-year wait and they did somewhat well. Gourmandises to MCE was about 2 years and they were both very successful :D
So that means :eek: since it will be 2 more years til "Album #5", it must be as good, and if not, better than than Gourmandises and MCE :D

I'm seeing a trend...

Chuck
02-07-2011, 11:58 PM
In the inimitable words of the immortal Lefty:
If this rumor is true, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I would be very happy to know Alizée is planning to do another album. One the other hand, 2 years is a long time to wait. It definitely shouldn't have to take nearly that long and I wonder how she can already know that it will. Which does lead one to wonder if the reason is that she's planning on having another baby. If she's going to do it, I don't think she can put it off much longer.

I'm not surprised that she may be ending her Institubes relationship, as well as no EP or concerts. Maybe she will work with Jeremy again. Either way, I guess we will have to just wait and see if something more official comes out about this.


Sorry Lefty, this time I can only agree with you 98.6%. (But you're still batting over .999 overall) :p

You (and others who've pointed this out) are absolutely correct in saying that two years IS a long time to wait. I'd even say it's TOO long. When you add on the 10 months since UEDS, that means nearly three years between records? In the real, actual, working music business, that only should happen if you're as successful and unambitious as Pink Floyd was in the mid-seventies.

Lefty, I agree with you again about her parting with Institubes. No surprise there. It was no longer to be. A shame about the EP, tho. And I also agree that it might be nice if she worked with Jérémy again, but I don't foresee it anytime soon.

Here's where I would differ with Lefty: "...[maybe] she's planning on having another baby." He brings up a good point - maybe in fact they are planning on procreating again. Yikes! What a time-wasting development that would be! If they go and have another kid and go on wanting to be such nice parents all the time, dammit, we could be waiting an additional 5 - 10 years for the new album! Unacceptable!

But my main variance with Lefty is in this: "If she's going to do it, I don't think she can put it off much longer." Actually she could wait ten, fifteen, even twenty more years before spawning season is over! So they CAN'T go off having another kid NOW!
I WANNA SEE THIS ALBUM DROP FIRST !!!!!



ok, sorry. um

Mon Maquis
02-08-2011, 12:48 AM
Something must of happened, between now and about 2 weeks ago... I was told there was 5 songs that were going to go on sale on the Alizee store.

Now this...something quickly changed her mind and to know that its late 2012 for a release date...

There is other artists I deal with and both of them don't give release dates so specific like this, but they both said the album will be done when its done....could be sooner or could be later...

The idea of her having another child is a real possibly.

severianb
02-08-2011, 01:33 AM
I am just concerned that a 2 year absence may bleed off more people from her fan base, which she really can't afford.

2 years is way too long. If it takes that long, Alizee will probably lose most of the fans she has left.

I also feel the same. If it goes like another 2 dead years, then it might be very difficult to many of her fans.

I don't think she should worry about the old fans that much. It's time to make new fans, with new music, if possible. As far as I can tell, most of the old fans want a 16 to 19 year old singing Mylene Farmer pop songs and/or shaking her booty. I think she should ignore those fans, and I think she's done a good job of it so far.


.... hopefully she has checked the forums for feedback.

I doubt it. Alizée was probably scared off the forums years ago, unless there is some french-language forum that bans trolls.


I think the possibility of a "homecoming" is indicative in itself that she's been listening and she wants to succeed. :)

I think it means about as much as the report that she was coming out with more songs on her website. Rumors based on nothing. When Lilly posts it herself, then I'll have some hope. Even then, (as we have found out the past couple of years) things can fall apart. She announced plans for Psyche and UEDS concerts that never happened.

Deepwaters
02-08-2011, 02:57 AM
I don't think she should worry about the old fans that much. It's time to make new fans, with new music, if possible. As far as I can tell, most of the old fans want a 16 to 19 year old singing Mylene Farmer pop songs and/or shaking her booty. I think she should ignore those fans, and I think she's done a good job of it so far.


While I don't agree that she should ignore any fans that stay fans, I do agree that she should concentrate on seeking new ones, and that those who want the old Alizée back and will not settle for anything else have a basic incompatibility with where she wants to go.


I doubt it. Alizée was probably scared off the forums years ago, unless there is some french-language forum that bans trolls.


Definitely not the case. Give you a concrete piece of evidence: the T-shirt design that says "Doctor A." Where did she get that idea?

Here. From the "Doctor Alizée" thread. I'll guarantee you. It tickled her sense of humor and she said "Pourquoi pas?"


I think it means about as much as the report that she was coming out with more songs on her website. Rumors based on nothing. When Lilly posts it herself, then I'll have some hope.

And finally, I agree with this as well. We have nothing official yet at all.

MickyMicky
02-08-2011, 05:35 AM
I would hope she is thinking about making a new album...

I think she either needs a new direction or to go with something close to what worked for her in the past, I would love for something similar to Psychédélices or even something like Mes Courants Électriques :wub:

I just dislike the fact there is so much freking rubbish out there these days... I guess most feel the same way I do, we just want our Lili back in some shape or form.

Fèvier
02-08-2011, 06:51 AM
Well she does have a hair style that looks like a cross between MCE and Psych.... :D

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-08-2011, 07:37 AM
Definitely not the case. Give you a concrete piece of evidence: the T-shirt design that says "Doctor A." Where did she get that idea?

Here. From the "Doctor Alizée" thread. I'll guarantee you. It tickled her sense of humor and she said "Pourquoi pas?"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qBXeY8EwFtM/TOAPGhMPIJI/AAAAAAAACOs/I_BXbvvwoL0/s400/camiseta-debbie-harry-doctor-x.gif

Regards,

Jung

Scruffydog777
02-08-2011, 04:06 PM
While I don't agree that she should ignore any fans that stay fans, I do agree that she should concentrate on seeking new ones, and that those who want the old Alizée back and will not settle for anything else have a basic incompatibility with where she wants to go.
.

If her next album is a great album, she wont need any of her old fans, but if it's not that great she might need all the support she can get.

Well where she wants to go has led her to two cancelled concerts and an album that was called a flop. She needs to figure out what ever fan base she decides to target wants from her and hopefully she can reach a happy median.

Fenris
02-08-2011, 04:18 PM
This whole development is strange. Why cancel the EP?
Something serious must have happened.
And a new album in 2 years? 2 Years are an eternity in our fastmoving time.

Baby? Would make sense...career is at an all time low anyway, so it's now or never.

There won't be much left of a community after 2 further years of silence...but then, it's already too small to keep her afloat financially, so what, she might be thinking.

Tapetor
02-08-2011, 04:22 PM
If her next album is a great album, she wont need any of her old fans, but if it's not that great she might need all the support she can get.

That's right.

She needs to figure out what ever fan base she decides to target wants from her and hopefully she can reach a happy median.

Correct!

I think that she has lost most of her old fans during the waiting for her last album. I would say that she needs all fans she still has and those which will come with the new album. Let's hope that the new one will be great for all of us :wub:

Azhiri
02-08-2011, 06:11 PM
We don't know that those two years in waiting will be silent. Like I said, she probably realizes what that lack of communication has earned her and maybe she's learned from the mistake.

Deepwaters
02-08-2011, 06:13 PM
We don't know that those two years in waiting will be silent. Like I said, she probably realizes what that lack of communication has earned her and maybe she's learned from the mistake.

I hope so, but the odd thing is that she hasn't been silent. It's just that a lot of people think she has been, because she communicates in these little hints, I suppose to see if people are paying attention. She rarely just comes out and communicates like a normal person.

In some ways, our girl is very odd. :blink:

MYGOGT
02-08-2011, 06:41 PM
I hope so, but the odd thing is that she hasn't been silent. It's just that a lot of people think she has been, because she communicates in these little hints, I suppose to see if people are paying attention. She rarely just comes out and communicates like a normal person.

In some ways, our girl is very odd. :blink:
There's a whole lot of truth in those statements............and it keeps us in our place.

lefty12357
02-08-2011, 07:51 PM
Well, with the EP thing, and now this album rumor, it sure would be nice to hear something official. If none of this is accurate, maybe it might prompt Alizée to clear some of this up. At least I hope so.

pepelepew
02-09-2011, 12:46 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qBXeY8EwFtM/TOAPGhMPIJI/AAAAAAAACOs/I_BXbvvwoL0/s400/camiseta-debbie-harry-doctor-x.gif

Regards,

JungShe is a Blondie fan. So am I.:) Or is that France Gal? Or Somebody completely different? Blondes all look alike lol.

Edit:

If her next album is a great album, she wont need any of her old fans, but if it's not that great she might need all the support she can get.

Well where she wants to go has led her to two cancelled concerts and an album that was called a flop. She needs to figure out what ever fan base she decides to target wants from her and hopefully she can reach a happy median.Alizee has already gotten all the support she could from her last two albums and it hasn't been near enough. If there is a next album, it will have to be good enough to draw many new fans as well. An obvious conclusion.

Euphoria
02-09-2011, 01:57 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qBXeY8EwFtM/TOAPGhMPIJI/AAAAAAAACOs/I_BXbvvwoL0/s400/camiseta-debbie-harry-doctor-x.gif

Regards,

Jung

Umm....that photo lol. Can anyone else spot what I'm seeing?

user472884
02-09-2011, 04:28 AM
Oh good, so I'm not the only one

Fèvier
02-09-2011, 04:44 PM
http://www.adobuzz.com/news/24111-alizee-sortie-projet-retour-nouvel-album-date-fin-2012-rumeur-facebook.html

so seems like word is spreading.... :D

and i would have never noticed that if you hadn't said anything Euphoria XP

BrianO1
02-09-2011, 05:09 PM
so seems like word is spreading.... :D


Yeah, but I would still prefer to hear something official.

How many websites and magazines ran the "Divorce" story, simply because a few other websites and magazines brought it up. Then Lili herself came in, and gave us the facts.

Lets hope we get something like that again this time.

lalorocks
02-09-2011, 06:26 PM
what we will do to know news about alizee in these two years?

User22
02-09-2011, 10:43 PM
what we will do to know news about alizee in these two years?

Well, I've got a couple more ideas for some "Her ____..." threads. Totally jokin' guys haha.

severianb
02-10-2011, 12:46 AM
Definitely not the case. Give you a concrete piece of evidence: the T-shirt design that says "Doctor A." Where did she get that idea?

Here. From the "Doctor Alizée" thread. I'll guarantee you. It tickled her sense of humor and she said "Pourquoi pas?"

LOL. That means she made the headscarf because of my avatar and .sig... AWESOME! ;) In my dreams!

I would hope she is thinking about making a new album...

I think she either needs a new direction or to go with something close to what worked for her in the past, I would love for something similar to Psychédélices or even something like Mes Courants Électriques :wub:


Yeah, MCE is fantastic. It used a lot more guitar and actual instruments, rather than synths than her other albums, and I think that's one of the reasons I like it so much. Her last two albums have been full of a lot of synth work, and I'd like her to go back to singing with real instruments. The live concerts she guested at the past few years have been some of the best music she's done, IMHO. Not that I don't love Psych and UEDS, but I'd like her to change from the electronic sounds.

I hope so, but the odd thing is that she hasn't been silent. It's just that a lot of people think she has been, because she communicates in these little hints, I suppose to see if people are paying attention. She rarely just comes out and communicates like a normal person.

In some ways, our girl is very odd. :blink:

Deepwaters nails it again. I've got no problem with what and how much she has been communicating lately. She's a quirky little cat, and I really don't want to know every detail of her life. Mystery is fun.

Well, I've got a couple more ideas for some "Her ____..." threads. Totally jokin' guys haha.

No need to joke. I like those threads. Creepy, stalkerish fun. Perfect for a fan site. :D

FanDeAliFee
02-10-2011, 01:23 AM
She is a Blondie fan. So am I.:) Or is that France Gal[l]? Or Somebody completely different? Blondes all look alike lol....

Did someone say France Gall? Below, she appears on French TV a couple years ago, looking great at age 61. We all hope Alizée will be as cute when she hits 61. Sadly, I will not be around to see!
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Anyway, back in the day, when Gall was the new kid on the block, we had no need for electronic network e-mail to make romantic connections. Instead, we simply let the computer itself find our perfect match in the blink of an eye!

Gall explained it all during the German phase of her long career in 1968 (decades before we enjoyed L'e-mail a Des Ailes), by singling Computer Nr 3, shown in the video below.
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Scruffydog777
02-10-2011, 09:35 AM
I have a real problem with the way Alizee has communicated with her fans over the years. As Deepwater says, every once in a while we get these hints of what is going on. Most of the time we don't even know if these are official. Mylene Farmer doesn't really communicate with her fans at all, but she comes out with another great album just about every 2 years, which keeps her fans devoted, where Alizee hasn't had a successful album since MCE.

How much trouble would it be for her to come out with a statement like this,

" Hello to my fans at Alizee America, Alizee forum, Alizee India, Alizee Mexico, Alizee Russia, etc, etc (I had to give AA first billing). I was very pleased with my latest album UEDS but unfortunately, it was not to the liking of the mainstream fans in France who are important for my future success. There fore I have decided to abandon any plans for future promotion of or concerts featuring this album.

I have decided to start working on an album more of a pop nature similar to some of the songs of my first two album, but will have no connection with those two great artists Mylene Farmer and Laurent Boutanant. This plan is just in it's infancy stage and will probably take quite a while to plan and then develop. I thank you for all your years of loyal support and hope you will stay with me through this long endeavor. I will work my hardest to make sure it is worth the wait."

How much effort would that take? Do you realize how much a statement like that would mean to us? Is she even aware of what we have done to try and promote her. Look at my efforts and I'm just one fan in a sea of many.

Tapetor
02-10-2011, 09:51 AM
I have a real problem with the way Alizee has communicated with her fans over the years. As Deepwater says, every once in a while we get these hints of what is going on. Most of the time we don't even know if these are official. Mylene Farmer doesn't really communicate with her fans at all, but she comes out with another great album just about every 2 years, which keeps her fans devoted, where Alizee hasn't had a successful album since MCE.

How much trouble would it be for her to come out with a statement like this,

" Hello to my fans at Alizee America, Alizee forum, Alizee India, Alizee Mexico, Alizee Russia, etc, etc (I had to give AA first billing). I was very pleased with my latest album UEDS but unfortunately, it was not to the liking of the mainstream fans in France who are important for my future success. There fore I have decided to abandon any plans for future promotion of or concerts featuring this album.

I have decided to start working on an album more of a pop nature similar to some of the songs of my first two album, but will have no connection with those two great artists Mylene Farmer and Laurent Boutanant. This plan is just in it's infancy stage and will probably take quite a while to plan and then develop. I thank you for all your years of loyal support and hope you will stay with me through this long endeavor. I will work my hardest to make sure it is worth the wait."

How much effort would that take? Do you realize how much a statement like that would mean to us? Is she even aware of what we have done to try and promote her. Look at my efforts and I'm just one fan in a sea of many.

That is correct, a simple statement like yours would only take some minutes and would do mean much for the fans.
We don't need a statement every day, but sometimes like now, it wold be really great. :)

babyblue558
02-10-2011, 12:13 PM
That is correct, a simple statement like yours would only take some minutes and would do mean much for the fans.
We don't need a statement every day, but sometimes like now, it wold be really great. :)

It's a really quick, easy and FREE method of promotion she's totally missing out on at the moment :blink:

Tiwaz
02-10-2011, 03:21 PM
When looking back at it, I kinda liked all the mystery before UEDS. In the beginning there was nothing. Then rumors started to circulate. Mysterious black&white photos. A new hairstyle?! A website with only the aforementioned picture and hidden messages in the source code. Instrumental samples and short clips from a dark studio. What was to come? Anything new was appreciated. sweet nostalgia.
I can take a few years, I understand if others don't, but hopefully not without a word from Her. At least there's Les enfoires once a year, unless She's getting another baby :S

Deepwaters
02-10-2011, 03:31 PM
Let me give you an example of what I mean by "hints." Prior to the autograph session where Scruffy got all those autographed copies of UEDS for some of us, a lot of people on this forum wondered if she even knew we existed. You did, right? And I can't blame you, even though I knew she knew. I know she browses here on a fairly regular basis. I knew she would have seen the letter we composed for her long before it was ever delivered.

But how did she acknowledge that this fan site is here? Did she come out and say, "Hey, thanks to all my fans at Alizée America, I really appreciate you being there for me. Check out my blog site and don't forget to "like" my fan page on Facebook." No. Did she come out and acknowledge that she knew about Lilly Town/AFC when it was up? No. There was the chat session, when it became clear that she knew a lot of the posters there by handle and general attitude, so duh! she knew about the site, and people were surprised about that!

She acknowledged us by having a special half-hour autograph session and using gold ink, which she didn't use for the regular session. It was really nice, very thoughtful -- but all non-verbal, all under the table. You have to connect the dots. She doesn't just say hi.

My sense is that this creates a lot of confusion, and the mistaken impression that she's oblivious or just doesn't care. That impression is wrong, but it's understandable, and it's her own fault. As sweet as gestures like the autograph session and the gold ink are, it would still be nice if she would just now and again say hi.

Azhiri
02-10-2011, 05:56 PM
Oh, I remember the hints she gave us for UEdS. That was fun. I hope she does it for this album as well. It would also be nice if she took up blogging for herself and other more personal communications, though - nothing big, just a little "hey, wassup" would be nice. :p

FanDeAliFee
02-10-2011, 06:11 PM
She acknowledged us by having a special half-hour autograph session and using gold ink, which she didn't use for the regular session. It was really nice....

it would still be nice if she would just now and again say hi.

I was very sincere last year when I stated I would never again try to raise money at AAm. But someone else might. AAm could send princesse lointaine flowers on her showbiz anniversary and other occasions as well.

For example, does the Corsican girl attend the public parties which Institubes gives now and then? If so, AAm might pay BigDan's admission fee and provide him with flowers or candy to present to Mr. Chatelain's wife on behalf of all of us. I can't see Alizée failing to say thank you at that time.

As a famous American president ALMOST once said:

Ask not, what Alizée can do for you;
Ask what you can do for Alizée!

Mon Maquis
02-10-2011, 07:34 PM
How much effort would that take? Do you realize how much a statement like that would mean to us? Is she even aware of what we have done to try and promote her. Look at my efforts and I'm just one fan in a sea of many.

Well Scruffy is right....I have been saying that for a long time. It takes what a whole minute to write a simple thank you or a shout out to you.

Now you know why I stopped my efforts... That's why I moved on to help Yelle and Melissa in the US.

Un-rêve
02-10-2011, 08:06 PM
Alizée has showed plenty of love over the years through her songs etc and she does care for her fans too and we can see that in the little things she does. There's been signings.. I mean c'mon what she did for us members here was pretty amazing! She updates information on Tumblr, Twitter, Facebook, etc, for us and you can't ignore her homage to her mexican fans with La Candida on UEDS.

This was a nice touch! :wub:

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If people NEED a thankyou! It's right here. ;)

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Well this was a nice touch for the new year aswell...

Alizée ♥ " Meilleurs voeux pour 2011 ... Happy new year everybody ♥ take care ... :wub:

I need a job! :rolleyes:

Euphoria
02-10-2011, 09:12 PM
She looks so happy. :rolleyes:

Un-rêve
02-10-2011, 11:29 PM
Well when she says "thankyou" towards the end of the second vid she's just preoccupied looking at the open letter.. she does say she will happily read it through but maybe she would've been happier with a tinkerbell. :p

FanDeAliFee
02-11-2011, 04:06 AM
Definitely not the case. Give you a concrete piece of evidence: the T-shirt design that says "Doctor A." Where did she get that idea?

Here. From the "Doctor Alizée" thread. I'll guarantee you. It tickled her sense of humor and she said "Pourquoi pas?"

I had the same "it's uncanny" reaction as DeepW when the Doctor A teeshirt item (dated Jan 14, 2011 3:39 PM) showed up in the RSS feed from her store.

Being something of a cultural naif. and an old man to boot, I had to research what the original Debbie Harry teeshirt which inspired the new Doctor A teeshirt signified - notwithstanding my enjoyment of Blondie hits during my youth in the 80s and the fact that Blondie's fellow punk-pioneers The Ramones are also alumni of my high school.

I found the answer here (http://www.spike.com/blog/top-7-baddest-women/67682) which writes in part:

Debbie Harry
The sexiest punk rock singer of all time!
...
The beautiful blonde sex symbol who helped pave the way for Madonna and many others is easily one of the most important ladies of rock. With her groundbreaking punk/disco act Blondie, she helped re-write the role of what a frontwoman could be. She had the voice, jaw-dropping good looks and a mean punk rock attitude. She even did a live show half-naked, wearing only a Dr. X t-shirt.
BLONDIE
"DOCTOR X T-SHIRT"
COMMERCIAL
PROMO POSTER
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So when Alizée models her new Doctor A teeshirt, she is "not really nude" - Debbie Harry is!

This reminded me of a post I had made at AAm last October here (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=184174&postcount=64), also titled Not really nude?, In it, I quote Bigdan's assertion that
Doing nude shooting is now officially the 1rst carreer relauncher for ex-teenage idol...

and suggested that instead, the Corsican fairy should use famous public-domain nude torsos and contribute only her head to the final art. It seems she has now done just that, albeit hardly in the specific manner I posited!

If indeed Melle A or her friends look here for store product ideas and feedback, I would bring their attention ro the "AA" teeshirt. One should notice that I always abbreviate Alizée America as AAm and NEVER as AA. All Americans know why - the acronym AA has for many decades been synonymous with the organization called Alcolholics Anonymous, which assists those who abuse alcoholic drinks!

Perhaps people who live in Paris do not know this and so might mistakenly design an AA teeshirt targeted at Americans! This would not be the first time the Alizée crew failed to consult with an American to avoid a cultural error. I cite the post here (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=164538&postcount=54), which writes in part

Sadly, the translator [of the UEdS liner notes] is NO New Yorker: not only is Broadway not a synonym for 42nd Street, on which GCT sits, but it runs several blocks away.


Needless to say, it is often the case that a foreigner fails to appreciate some subtlety about a local culture. Should the hypothetical Alizée's Corsican Restaurant (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=184284&postcount=72) prove a smashing success in Paris, when the time comes to franchise locations in the USA, one should be careful never to put ANY of the items documented here (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/lit/ForeignFoods/index.htm) on the menu! :p

Oh - if you love Alizée, don't forget to buy plenty of the cool new Alizée-designed items at her recently reopened store (http://a-store.myshopify.com/)!

User22
02-11-2011, 11:47 AM
FanDeAlifee, why did you post that post in both the Alizee Store thread and this thread? Cause shouldn't be in the Alizee Store thread only? lol :p

lefty12357
02-11-2011, 04:52 PM
One should notice that I always abbreviate Alizée America as AAm and NEVER as AA. All Americans know why - the acronym AA has for many decades been synonymous with the organization called Alcolholics Anonymous, which assists those who abuse alcoholic drinks!

Actually, we have been using AAm around here for a long time because there used to be a well known French Alizée forum called Alizée Alliance, and everyone referred to that forum as AA. Just a little history...:)

Jake04
02-11-2011, 06:32 PM
I had the same "it's uncanny" reaction as DeepW when the Doctor A teeshirt item (dated Jan 14, 2011 3:39 PM) showed up in the RSS feed from her store.

Being something of a cultural naif. and an old man to boot, I had to research what the original Debbie Harry teeshirt which inspired the new Doctor A teeshirt signified - notwithstanding my enjoyment of Blondie hits during my youth in the 80s and the fact that Blondie's fellow punk-pioneers The Ramones are also alumni of my high school.

I found the answer here (http://www.spike.com/blog/top-7-baddest-women/67682) which writes in part:

Debbie Harry
The sexiest punk rock singer of all time!
...
The beautiful blonde sex symbol who helped pave the way for Madonna and many others is easily one of the most important ladies of rock. With her groundbreaking punk/disco act Blondie, she helped re-write the role of what a frontwoman could be. She had the voice, jaw-dropping good looks and a mean punk rock attitude. She even did a live show half-naked, wearing only a Dr. X t-shirt.
BLONDIE
"DOCTOR X T-SHIRT"
COMMERCIAL
PROMO POSTER
<img src="http://images.cloud.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0907/24/1_7f830e7450a551218fd71cae84c01ff5.jpg">


So when Alizée models her new Doctor A teeshirt, she is "not really nude" - Debbie Harry is!

This reminded me of a post I had made at AAm last October here (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=184174&postcount=64), also titled Not really nude?, In it, I quote Bigdan's assertion that
Doing nude shooting is now officially the 1rst carreer relauncher for ex-teenage idol...

and suggested that instead, the Corsican fairy should use famous public-domain nude torsos and contribute only her head to the final art. It seems she has now done just that, albeit hardly in the specific manner I posited!

If indeed Melle A or her friends look here for store product ideas and feedback, I would bring their attention ro the "AA" teeshirt. One should notice that I always abbreviate Alizée America as AAm and NEVER as AA. All Americans know why - the acronym AA has for many decades been synonymous with the organization called Alcolholics Anonymous, which assists those who abuse alcoholic drinks!

Perhaps people who live in Paris do not know this and so might mistakenly design an AA teeshirt targeted at Americans! This would not be the first time the Alizée crew failed to consult with an American to avoid a cultural error. I cite the post here (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=164538&postcount=54), which writes in part

Sadly, the translator [of the UEdS liner notes] is NO New Yorker: not only is Broadway not a synonym for 42nd Street, on which GCT sits, but it runs several blocks away.


Needless to say, it is often the case that a foreigner fails to appreciate some subtlety about a local culture. Should the hypothetical Alizée's Corsican Restaurant (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=184284&postcount=72) prove a smashing success in Paris, when the time comes to franchise locations in the USA, one should be careful never to put ANY of the items documented here (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/lit/ForeignFoods/index.htm) on the menu! :p

Oh - if you love Alizée, don't forget to buy plenty of the cool new Alizée-designed items at her recently reopened store (http://a-store.myshopify.com/)!

Hmmmm....I think I'll have some Jussipussi and Vergina for drink, please. :D

Deepwaters
02-11-2011, 08:55 PM
One thing I hope is that the next album is danceable. Today I felt the need for a good workout, so for something different I turned on Psichédélices (the album, not the song; that's one of the ones I skipped) and danced like a lunatic to most of the album. I skipped the title song and the last two, which were too slow (although I like them, especially Idealiser, to listen to).

FanDeAliFee
02-11-2011, 11:09 PM
Actually, we have been using AAm around here for a long time because there used to be a well known French Alizée forum called Alizée Alliance, and everyone referred to that forum as AA. Just a little history...:)

You are always a useful source of history to we newcomers! Many thanks.

When I look at the multi-lingual albeit Anglo-centric list oif acronyms here (http://www.acronymfinder.com/AA.html), only a few French phrases are associated with AA, viz. Académie d'Architecture, Académie d'Alsace, Agglutination Anticyclonique, Alsthom Atlantique. Of course it is very hard to believe that neither of the pair of A's stands for Alizée!

So, what is your theory concerning the AA teeshirt? Is it a tip of the hat to the Alizée Alliance, or does Alizée just stutter sometimes, LOL. And is it true the Alizée Alliance broke up because they included too many mean drunks? ;)

To be very serious, I will repeat my long-ago suggestion that this site maintain a linking list of all non-trivial Alizée fan-club sites, past and present.

Merci Alizée
02-12-2011, 12:51 AM
To be very serious, I will repeat my long-ago suggestion that this site maintain a linking list of all non-trivial Alizée fan-club sites, past and present.

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=198603&postcount=6

;)

Note : Psychalizee (http://psychalizee.forum-actif.net/) is now Alizée-France (http://www.alizee-france.com/)

DrSmith
02-12-2011, 12:51 AM
One thing I hope is that the next album is danceable.

Maybe she could collaborate with French DJ Junior Caldera.

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User22
02-16-2011, 09:14 PM
Thanks to ZeFox from AF:

a priori SONY a posé un ultimatum a alizée, il aurait un seuil minimum de 15 000 ventes a atteindre pour que ce soit rentable, donc il ont proposé a alizée de faire un album pop ou alors il la mettait à la porte !
on peut donc comprendre pourquoi unr etour a la pop est annoncé
j'ai eu vent aussi de "rentrée 2011" !!!

a prendre avec des pincettes, mais cette personne m'est chère, j'ai confiance en ces propos, donc qui vivra verra !
Sony issued an ultimatum to Alizée: a minimum amount of 15,000 sales must be reached. So Sony suggested that Alizée should release a pop album! We can now understand why a return to pop was announced! I also heard "September 2011"! Take it with a grain of salt, but that person is dear to me, I trust in these words, so only time will tell!

This is a rumor that Alessandro from AF posted that Zefox said. But I don't know where Zefox heard this from yet. I'll try to get more information.

Fèvier
02-16-2011, 09:51 PM
Fantabulous!!! :D
Can't wait!

lefty12357
02-16-2011, 11:08 PM
So it appears Sony needs to sell at least 15,000 units in order to be profitable. That's not very many, so I assume they want Alizée to foot the bill for the recording and other up front costs and deliver them a basically finished product. I guess that's no surprise considering I believe that's how they did Psych and UEDS.

The word ultimatum is a bit ominous though. It almost sounds like they are giving her one last chance. Either way, until we hear different, this is still just a rumor. But it sounds plausible. And it may turn out to be a very good thing for her. Let's hope, anyways...

Naft
02-16-2011, 11:28 PM
So it appears Sony needs to sell at least 15,000 units in order to be profitable. That's not very many, so I assume they want Alizée to foot the bill for the recording and other up front costs and deliver them a basically finished product. I guess that's no surprise considering I believe that's how they did Psych and UEDS.

The word ultimatum is a bit ominous though. It almost sounds like they are giving her one last chance. Either way, until we hear different, this is still just a rumor. But it sounds plausible. And it may turn out to be a very good thing for her. Let's hope, anyways...

But if she sells 15,000 records (Shouldn't be that hard now should it? She still has her name on the CD and that will sell a fair share, especially if it's a new pop-album) they might take it further, so it could be kind of an "all or nothing" type of deal. Then again I doubt that she's done with music even if Sony won't do their thing, she's only 26 and loves doing what she does.

FanDeAliFee
02-16-2011, 11:38 PM
To be very serious, I will repeat my long-ago suggestion that this site maintain a linking list of all non-trivial Alizée fan-club sites, past and present.

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=198603&postcount=6

An AAm God should point at the best list published in the thread here (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6240) from a link on the HOME page of AAm. This is reference information of extremely broad value. Thanks!

User22
02-16-2011, 11:49 PM
Time to quote myself from AF lol:

Sony, you have got to be kidding me! UEDS alone sold 20,000 copies! What makes them think a POP ALBUM from the ALIZEE could possibly sell less than 15,000?

If UEDS sold 20,000 and was considered a commercial failure, I wouldn't even want to know what type of failure a pop album selling under 15,000 would be lol.

MAN!!! This rumor gets juicier and juicier :D

Naft
02-16-2011, 11:55 PM
Time to quote myself from AF lol:

Probably just to have some "control" of the whole situation, so she knows she can't make an album worse than UEDS and "get away with it".

sumi1
02-16-2011, 11:56 PM
So it appears Sony needs to sell at least 15,000 units in order to be profitable. That's not very many, so I assume they want Alizée to foot the bill for the recording and other up front costs and deliver them a basically finished product. I guess that's no surprise considering I believe that's how they did Psych and UEDS.

The word ultimatum is a bit ominous though. It almost sounds like they are giving her one last chance. Either way, until we hear different, this is still just a rumor. But it sounds plausible. And it may turn out to be a very good thing for her. Let's hope, anyways...

Didn't UEDS sell 20,000 CDs. In addition, include the sales from 1000 expensive box-sets and digital downloads. So, if 15,000 CD sales is the break even point UEDS was marginally profitable.

Assuming that the next album will be more "mainstream", it should not be that difficult to sell 15,000 albums.

But again, rumors and speculations :)

Edit:

Time to quote myself from AF lol:

Great minds thinking alike, simultaneously :P

User22
02-16-2011, 11:59 PM
Great minds thinking alike, simultaneously :P

Sweet, now i know I'm not hallucinating when I see they want her to sell a WHOPPING 15,000 CDs :p I just don't think she can do it lol. 15,000 is an insane amount lol. Okay, I've dished out my sarcasm for the night...

pepelepew
02-17-2011, 12:44 AM
150,000 albums minimum sounds more plausible. Eitheer way I hope there is some truth to the rumor. :)

Deepwaters
02-17-2011, 01:48 AM
Yeah, I was thinking someone dropped a zero there. UEDS is the firsts album she's done that's sold less than 150k, but even it sold more than 15k. (Over a million for Gourmandises, 300k for MCE, 200k for Psych. So UEDS is her first commercial failure.)

DrSmith
02-17-2011, 02:07 AM
150,000 albums minimum sounds more plausible.

150k is higher than Platinum in France (100k). That's sort of a big demand.

Edit:

Yeah, I was thinking someone dropped a zero there. UEDS is the firsts album she's done that's sold less than 150k, but even it sold more than 15k. (Over a million for Gourmandises, 300k for MCE, 200k for Psych. So UEDS is her first commercial failure.)

Where do you get these figures? (Just curioso. :))

Deepwaters
02-17-2011, 03:34 AM
150k is higher than Platinum in France (100k). That's sort of a big demand.


Hmm, well, I don't know what to think, then. I guess if we're talking only sales in France rather than world-wide, that would be excessive, but 15,000 is just way low. I'm pretty sure even UEDS at least came close to that. It was some 20,000 worldwide, which is piss-poor for Alizée but still.

Where do you get these figures? (Just curioso. :))

I just grabbed it from the Wiki. Which has now been updated to give Psych 300,000 sales, which means it tied MCE at 6 months. It did much worse than MCE in France, though.

Scruffydog777
02-17-2011, 05:23 AM
So it appears Sony needs to sell at least 15,000 units in order to be profitable. That's not very many..............

The word ultimatum is a bit ominous though. It almost sounds like they are giving her one last chance........................ ...


I think Lefty is on the right trail. 15,000 doesn't sound like a high number at all to give her as an ultimatum. Maybe they just threw the word ultimatum in there because they felt she didn't work hard enough on UEDS or maybe they feel she didn't do enough to promote it. Maybe they felt she didn't work hard enough to make a tour with CM happen. We don't know what goes on behind those studio doors, but I'm sure Sony has a good idea what does.

Mon Maquis
02-17-2011, 09:05 AM
Didn't UEDS sell 20,000 CDs. In addition, include the sales from 1000 expensive box-sets and digital downloads. So, if 15,000 CD sales is the break even point UEDS was marginally profitable.

Assuming that the next album will be more "mainstream", it should not be that difficult to sell 15,000 albums.

I dont know where you are getting your stats from but I know it sold 5,000 copies.

http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Alizee/news-70847.html

Euphoria
02-17-2011, 09:13 AM
The only thing that saved Psychedelices was Mexico. If you look back at the charts, Psychedelices actually dropped faster in sales in France than UEDS. The only thing that sold Alizee albums in the beginning was Mylene Farmer's name on it.

Deepwaters
02-17-2011, 11:22 AM
The only thing that saved Psychedelices was Mexico. If you look back at the charts, Psychedelices actually dropped faster in sales in France than UEDS. The only thing that sold Alizee albums in the beginning was Mylene Farmer's name on it.

You're much too young to be this crotchety. :p

Mylène's name surely helped, and her talent helped more, but if that were enough by itself then Lisa would have been a chart-topper. As for Psych, what you say is true but so what? France is not the world. The fact remains that Psychédélices sold 300,000 copies in six months -- doesn't matter where or to whom. That makes it a commercial success.

UEDS is a commercial failure not because it didn't sell well in France, but because it didn't sell well period. If her next album sells well globally, it doesn't matter if it fails to sell a single disc in France.

Marquis<3Alizée
02-17-2011, 12:14 PM
So is this whole rumor true or no!! That's all I want to know! Then we can discuss!

Fèvier
02-17-2011, 12:16 PM
So is this whole rumor true or no!! That's all I want to know! Then we can discuss!

don't we all :p

Patience young cricket. let the future unfold itself.

Marquis<3Alizée
02-17-2011, 12:17 PM
don't we all :p

Patience young cricket. let the future unfold itself.

Oui, je sais I just really want to know very badly! I hope she makes another pop album!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:wub::wub::wub::wub:

Scruffydog777
02-17-2011, 12:41 PM
So is this whole rumor true or no!! That's all I want to know! Then we can discuss!

I've heard from very reliable sources that it is officially a true rumor.

sumi1
02-17-2011, 01:05 PM
I dont know where you are getting your stats from but I know it sold 5,000 copies.

http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Alizee/news-70847.html

That is an old link. In France alone, the sales were approximately 6000. See this link:

http://www.chartsinfrance.net/communaute/index.php?/topic/34745-alizee-2000-2010/

As per above link, Worldwide sales were roughly 11,000. These are also not the latest figures. The figure of 20,000 I remembered from some discussions in an other forum (probably AF, I am not sure).

Deepwaters
02-17-2011, 01:06 PM
I've heard from very reliable sources that it is officially a true rumor.

LOL that sentence is just classic. :)

I'll wait for an actual official announcement rather than a rumor. Even if she mentioned an intention to someone and that someone passed things on until it came to us, and even if what she said hasn't been distorted in the process, intentions can change.

Myself, I have two reactions to the rumor if it is true. I think a return to pop roots is a good idea for the next album. On the other hand, the projected date of the end of 2012 doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless:

1) As has been speculated, she is or soon intends to be pregnant; or

2) She's putting it off because a return to big-stardom will make Jérémy have a cow.

Purely in terms of producing the album the end of 2012 amounts to "one of these days."

lefty12357
02-17-2011, 04:42 PM
Well along with this newest rumor was a date of September, 2011. That sounds more reasonable.

I'm assuming Sony is saying that 15,000 CDs is basically their financial break even point. If they are covering the costs of manufacturing and distribution, then this number may be believable. Of course, Alizée will have to cover the costs of songs, music, musicians and recording. So 15,000 is not their goal, it's the lowest they are willing to accept. I'm sure they expect much more. They are in business to make a profit.

I also think a return to her pop roots is a good idea at this point. Again, we are dealing with rumors and I am not banking on anything at this point either.

Tiwaz
02-17-2011, 07:07 PM
Are there any rumors or info on what the contract with jive says, if there is a certain amount of records she have to release with jive? I don't want to make any serious speculations since this is based on a rumor, but lets say she signed for two albums (starting with UEdS), hence the "ultimatum" (rather strong choice of word without any further explanation), with the "suggestion" to make a pop album or they wont pay for the album? Sony are evil so I don't doubt they would do things like that if they're about to lose money.

Scruffydog777
02-17-2011, 07:21 PM
2) She's putting it off because a return to big-stardom will make Jérémy have a cow.
."

Do you really think it might be a case of Jeremy stifling how big a star she could become? I thought it might be a case of her being just too devoted to her family or maybe it's a combination of both.

User22
02-17-2011, 07:34 PM
Do you really think it might be a case of Jeremy stifling how big a star she could become? I thought it might be a case of her being just too devoted to her family or maybe it's a combination of both.

StageHand at an Alizee Concert: Alizee you're on!....Alizee!? Does anyone know where Alizee went?!?! Oh there you are!!!

Alizee: Sorry, Annily wanted a popsicle...

Junkmale
02-17-2011, 07:46 PM
StageHand at an Alizee Concert: Alizee you're on!....Alizee!? Does anyone know where Alizee went?!?! Oh there you are!!!

Alizee: Sorry, Annily wanted a popsicle...


Don't panic Aaron. By the time Alizee plays another concert Annily will be well past the popsicle stage:)

User22
02-17-2011, 07:54 PM
Don't panic Aaron. By the time Alizee plays another concert Annily will be well past the popsicle stage:)

Haha I guess you're right lol. And just making sure you understood me correctly, I did indeed mean popsicle(the flavored ice on a stick thing), and not a pacifier(what babies suck on).

DrSmith
02-17-2011, 08:15 PM
Haha I guess you're right lol. And just making sure you understood me correctly, I did indeed mean popsicle(the flavored ice on a stick thing), and not a pacifier(what babies suck on).

Do Americans really call cold-on-the-cob "popsicles?" (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100611002633AAp08F1)

You so crazy. :rolleyes:

User22
02-17-2011, 08:38 PM
Do Americans really call cold-on-the-cob "popsicles?" (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100611002633AAp08F1)

You so crazy. :rolleyes:

I no American. what cold on cob? I click link.

Deepwaters
02-17-2011, 10:07 PM
Well along with this newest rumor was a date of September, 2011.

Now that's more like it! It'll be a birthday present for ME! :)

(Well, and for Mylène. She and I have the same birthday.)

Scruffy, I don't know; I don't think in the way you worded it, as if the J-man was being some kind of tyrant, no. Or anyway I'd be surprised either if he would do that or she would put up with it. All I do know is that he doesn't want to be famous or in the limelight, that something weird happened with her during the promotion of Psychédélices that has never been adequately explained, and that after Jérémy co-produced that album and wrote more than half of the music, he had no presence at all in UEDS either in composition or in management. For whatever reason, and whether it was his decision or hers, he has completely separated himself from her career after being heavily connected to it. So something went on. I don't know what, and it's not something she should be expected to make public so odds are we will never know.

User22
02-17-2011, 10:21 PM
For whatever reason, and whether it was his decision or hers, he has completely separated himself from her career after being heavily connected to it. So something went on. I don't know what, and it's not something she should be expected to make public so odds are we will never know.

If I were to guess, it would have been a small argument/debate...or possibly just a compromise. Either way, they aren't in each other's careers now.

Fèvier
02-17-2011, 10:39 PM
Don't panic Aaron. By the time Alizee plays another concert Annily will be well past the popsicle stage:)

I still get tempted to go buy ice cream from the ice cream truck :p

On topic: (on iPod and laziness to go back and multiquote pains me)
I agree with deepwaters on the fact that we may never know what happened between Alizée and Jeremy musically. Maybe it was the genre she chose? I don't know much at all about him but maybe he doesn't have the taste for electro or just felt unconfident to try that genre? This is just a guess but who knows. It could be that or something else.

lefty12357
02-17-2011, 10:57 PM
The only reference that I recall seeing to Jeremy during the UEDS era was on the CD. After the "thanks" section, it simply says "A J et A", which would appear to be Alizée, Jeremy and Annily.

The one other reference is less direct, but the publishing credits list Wisteria and Sir Sid/Institubes. Sir Sid was the company Jeremy started, which was even before the Psych era. So it would seem Jeremy is involved at some level, probably just the business side and not creative side of things, but definitely well out of the public eye.

Rev
02-17-2011, 11:45 PM
If the rumor is true then Sony was probably saying 15 000 in France - which would be reasonable. :)

MYGOGT
02-18-2011, 01:39 AM
Did you know: Alizee and Jeremy aren't married.

I wonder what she would respond to you if you walked up to her and claimed this? I believe you need to show a little more respect than you do on this. If you have never been married you probably are not qualified to even comment on this. So you get married in one place and go somewhere else that may not recognize it, does that make it so? I would bet she would differ on this!!!!!!!
Not trying to start a war here, just asking for the respect that she deserves.

User22
02-18-2011, 10:32 AM
I wonder what she would respond to you if you walked up to her and claimed this? I believe you need to show a little more respect than you do on this. If you have never been married you probably are not qualified to even comment on this. So you get married in one place and go somewhere else that may not recognize it, does that make it so? I would bet she would differ on this!!!!!!!
Not trying to start a war here, just asking for the respect that she deserves.

Sorry I should have thought before posting it. I saw it as just a little random "did you know?" thing that people post at around 1AM...but it didn't turn out to be that way. I didn't mean to make it come across as something disrespectful but instead just a little trivia question that would make people go "Huh?" and then be like "Oooh, what a kidder:rolleyes:" But yeah I'll make sure to think even harder about the amount of things just one comment can come across as before I post something (not trying to sound like a smart allick in saying that). Thanks :)

Anyway, back to the topic...

So this rumor still hasn't become official...tick tock tick tock lol.

Scruffydog777
02-18-2011, 03:09 PM
As far as the subject of Alizee and Jeremy being married. Like Alizee used to be, (I'm sure what her current beliefs are.) I'm a catholic. I was divorced a little over 10 years ago. I met another woman after that who I came very close to marrying. I'm sure most of you people know that only under limited circumstances ( if you can get your first marriage annuled) can you get married again.


We even went to talk to a priest to discuss it and he said in my case there was no way I could get married again in the church. That would not stop me from marrying this woman and It also would not stop me believing in the catholic religion. I would have gotten married anyways and figured if me and my new wife led lives of good christians, the good Lord would not hold that against us.

As things went, it didn't work out between us for other reasons but the way I feel as to what is most important in what is or what isn't a marriage, is it doesn't matter what any church, government or any part of society says, it's what those two individuals feel in their hearts and in Alizee and Jeremy's case, I don't think you could have a much deeper marriage.

Plaz
02-18-2011, 03:44 PM
if this ever see's the light of day im willing to give it a listen

Tchaikovsky
02-18-2011, 04:17 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.

Euphoria
02-18-2011, 09:50 PM
I remember from an interview, Alizee said she doesn't really practice religion anymore. Even though they aren't married in France, I'm sure she takes her marriage very seriously since they have a child and she wears a wedding ring. I'm sure there would be a lot of legal issues involving a "real" marriage, so maybe they wanted to avoid all that.

Ange
02-26-2011, 05:53 PM
an artist or band can make as many albums as they want in a year. They do not have to tour if they do not want to. Yes most musicians tour to make money but some artists are known to make album after album, like babyface.

Scruffydog777
02-26-2011, 07:15 PM
an artist or band can make as many albums as they want in a year. They do not have to tour if they do not want to. Yes most musicians tour to make money but some artists are known to make album after album, like babyface.

The problem here is I believe Babyface writes most of his own songs and produces his own music. Alizee has to team up with someone else, possibly two other people which would certainly take longer and if she's too devoted to her family, could take years

User22
03-08-2011, 10:45 PM
As you can see in this thread (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6298) the french public has started to hear the rumor of Alizee possibly coming back with a pop album...well...just saying it cause thats a good thing. And when there is early awareness for an album it tends to be heard of by many people. So I'm hoping if more French sites discuss this rumor that it will raise some excitement for Alizee's rumored 5th album so it does well. What are your guys thoughts?

woohoo
03-08-2011, 11:11 PM
I think that it really needs to be a pop or electropop album, those styles are pretty big here and over in europe as well as japan and korea. I've said this before but Yelle has a fanbase here and music like theirs will gain support for Alizée in the states.

Människöpesten
03-08-2011, 11:19 PM
if it's more dancey it'll be really popular with the eurotrash < not demeaning it simply states a type of people >

Plaz
03-09-2011, 03:08 AM
if it's more dancey it'll be really popular with plaz
.........................

Ange
03-09-2011, 09:27 AM
well honestly i can see why most artists try different sounds. they have to grow and evolve like everyone else.

Karin
03-31-2011, 03:47 PM
Form "Lilly's nest" FB

Exclu : un best-of avant le nouvel album de 2012 !
D'après nos informations Alizée sortira un best of de ses 4 albums studio à la fin de l'année 2011. (une version DVD avec l'intégrale des clips est envisagés).
Source : Nidalizee.com

so how I understand... before new album it should be released "BEST OF" from her 4 albums, and DVD with clips at the end of 2011 :)

Jenny_HRO87
03-31-2011, 04:28 PM
Form "Lilly's nest" FB



so how I understand... before new album it should be released "BEST OF" from her 4 albums, and DVD with clips at the end of 2011 :)

I wonder why Alizée should make a "Best of" now... perhaps a "Best of" would promote her new songs better but honestly these kind of CDs are useless if you already have all the other albums... and Alizée has only 4 albums now and not ten... well if they would put some new, unreleased songs on it perhaps it would work. Vanessa Paradis made a Best of with her new single "Il y a". But Vanessa is totally different from Alizée, she's much huger in France...

With videos on it it would be quite cool yes.

perhaps it's an early April Fool's joke? Last year they announced a concert in the middle of nowhere in France.. and a Best of now sounds pretty absurd to me... so if it is simply a "poisson d'Avril" I wouldn't be surprised...

We will see... at last I really would prefer to have a new album at the end of 2011, not a Best of.

Karin
03-31-2011, 04:38 PM
I wonder why Alizée should make a "Best of" now... perhaps a "Best of" would promote her new songs better but honestly these kind of CDs are useless if you already have all the other albums... and Alizée has only 4 albums now and not ten...

yea... but dont forget what Universal made in Mexico... "Tout Alizée" - "best" of her songs and DVD...
I think its better to release something (incl. her Gour and MCE) as do nothing, and wait for new album in 2012.

Jenny_HRO87
03-31-2011, 04:40 PM
yea... but dont forget what Universal made in Mexico... "Tout Alizée" - "best" of her songs and DVD...

Sure but this was a result of the Alizée-hype in Mexico... but there's no hype in France...

Karin
03-31-2011, 04:46 PM
Sure but this was a result of the Alizée-hype in Mexico... but there's no hype in France...

ok... you have right... who knows if will be released something (like with EP)... but if yes, i will buy it :)
and if

Tiwaz
03-31-2011, 04:54 PM
She might want to get off some contract by releasing some pointless 'best of' cd. Michael Jackson did that when he fucked Sony.

FanDeAliFee
03-31-2011, 04:56 PM
...perhaps it's an early April Fool's joke? Last year they announced a concert in the middle of nowhere in France.. and a Best of now sounds pretty absurd to me... so if it is simply a "poisson d'Avril" I wouldn't be surprised...

In Alizée's case it would be called a "poisson rouge d'Avril". ;)

BTW, some fans would pay (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=123) to see a DVD with Lili snapshots synced to the music of <i>UEdS</i>!

Alizée@Rügen
03-31-2011, 05:10 PM
Think we positive about the news!

User22
03-31-2011, 05:48 PM
This better be an April Fools Joke. And until Alizee announces something, I won't beleive anything haha

Scruffydog777
03-31-2011, 07:12 PM
Maybe it's an attempt to generate some revenue they might need for the next album.

lefty12357
03-31-2011, 08:12 PM
Well, either it's an April Fools joke or maybe it is an attempt to raise some more money. As Jenny pointed out, Alizée doesn't seem to have enough material out to warrant a "best of" CD yet, and her popularity right now is not high in France. My guess is only some of her fan base, especially the collectors would buy it. She also doesn't hold the rights to the sound recordings from her first two albums, so she would have some expense to secure those rights to use the original recordings. I would imagine those rights are held by Universal. If she did release such a CD, I know I would buy it though.

I think it would be awesome if she could release some of the songs she recorded that never reached the light of day, like "L'amour insulaire". I'd love to hear that song. Anyways, at this point I would bet this is an April Fools joke.

BlackAnthem
03-31-2011, 08:13 PM
Well a "Best of..." isn't THAT bad. I suppose that they are trying to get some hype for the "new album". I'd buy a "Best of..."!

Or maybe...hmmmm.

sumi1
03-31-2011, 08:40 PM
It looks like an April Fools joke.

However, since Lefty pointed out the copyright issue with the first two albums, is it possible to record and release all the covers she has done? I would buy that for sure.

Deepwaters
03-31-2011, 08:43 PM
This better be an April Fools Joke. And until Alizee announces something, I won't beleive anything haha

Right, that was what I was going to say. If it comes from Alizée through her usual channels, it's official. Lily's Nest -- no. Maybe true, maybe not; we have to regard it as a rumor until she says what she's doing, not fans. Even if the information came from her originally, I could see her doing a trial balloon by releasing a rumor to see what the reaction is. In which case, if this is any indication, there won't be a "best of" album at the end of this year.

User22
03-31-2011, 08:51 PM
In response to Deep's post:

Alizée, si vous lisez ceci, s'il vous plaît ne faites pas "Best of Alizée" album! Il ne sera pas vous faire du bien!

FanDeAliFee
03-31-2011, 09:00 PM
Well, either it's an April Fools joke or maybe it is an attempt to raise some more money... She also doesn't hold the rights to the sound recordings from her first two albums, so she would have some expense to secure those rights to use the original recordings...

Well, if they released a DVD, they could mute the sound, Alizée could lip-sync the songs, and the buyer could play the tracks he already has on his iPod from her CDs! I bet no one has done a music DVD like that before! What a novelty item...

By the way, here is my latest Guerrilla Marketing campaign. All of our French members will stick a copy (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_d'avril) of the image below on the backs of as many people as possible tomorrow. If only we had done this a year ago!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/JEAMfish.jpg

lefty12357
03-31-2011, 09:01 PM
It looks like an April Fools joke.

However, since Lefty pointed out the copyright issue with the first two albums, is it possible to record and release all the covers she has done? I would buy that for sure.

The copyright issue for the original sound recordings MAY be an issue, but even if they are happy to let her use them, it won't be for free. That's not to say it would stand in her way though. It would just add to the expense.

And yes I agree, a CD of her covers would be cool. Even if this is a joke (which I think it is), it might be kind of cool if she re-recorded her covers along with stuff that was left off her albums, and make them available individually on itunes or her website. I'd buy all of them.

Edit: But what I really would like to see is a new album with new material. :)

BrianO1
03-31-2011, 09:09 PM
If they did a combo pack type thing, like..the singles off her albums, the music videos for each single, and those EPs we heard of a while ago, would be a really cool collectors piece.

sumi1
03-31-2011, 09:50 PM
But what I really would like to see is a new album with new material. :)

And some new videos too :-)

Azhiri
03-31-2011, 10:12 PM
Well, if they released a DVD, they could mute the sound, Alizée could lip-sync the songs, and the buyer could play the tracks he already has on his iPod from her CDs! I bet no one has done a music DVD like that before! What a novelty item...

By the way, here is my latest Guerrilla Marketing campaign. All of our French members will stick a copy (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_d'avril) of the image below on the backs of as many people as possible tomorrow. If only we had done this a year ago!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Alizee/JEAMfish.jpg

That made me laugh so hard. Your posts are a treat, FanDeAlifee. :p

This doesn't seem feasible to me and if it isn't some kind of joke, it doesn't seem like a good idea! As someone else mentioned, Alizee doesn't have enough material to have a "Best Of" album, if you really stretched it the album would have MAYBE seven or eight songs, and several of them would be Moi... Lolita remixes and revivals. :p

Fèvier
03-31-2011, 11:29 PM
What if they also release her studio recording of the songs she sang covers of!? :D

Euphoria
04-01-2011, 12:58 AM
Wasn't Tout Alizee a best hits? I don't see the point in releasing another album when there were no "hits" on Psychedelices or UEDS.

Mon Maquis
04-01-2011, 01:06 AM
Yes, it was a best of, so I dont know why I would need another best off if I already have that and the other CD's.

Another thing, is have you noticed a trend over the past few years. News never comes from Alizee herself. It's always "leaked" 50/60 song, 50/60 music video, www.psychedeclips.com, concerts dates, facebook photos, rare records versions of songs for TV shows...I mean I can go on and on and on... Something tells me Alizee leaks her own stuff. I know the 2 artists that I deal with would kill someone if someone leaked this much stuff over and over. I see this is how Alizee communicates with the public, with leaked information.

Deepwaters
04-01-2011, 02:09 AM
Yes, except to say that she never communicates with direct announcements is not correct. Looking on her Facebook fan page, I can see just over the past few months information about Les Enfoires, about the store stuff, etc. and further back I can remember announcements about the release of Psychédélices and UEDS, concert dates (whether or not they came off), and so on. So she does do this the normal way.

But it's true that she likes to hint and leak and communicate for those clever enough to figure it out. That's just a part of her personality, part of who she is. But that doesn't mean that we should regard these rumors as authentic. For one thing, there's often no way to tell whether a given rumor came from her or was just something someone pulled out of a hat. For another, since she does use "official announcements," even when leaks do come from her they aren't as set in stone as if she had come right out through normal channels and said it.

Even if she is the source of this rumor about the "best of" album, she's not committed to doing it unless she says she's doing it in a non-deniable fashion. Right now, this is either a wild rumor or a trial balloon.

And if so -- c'est pas une bonne idée, ma chère fée. Tu n'as pas aussi tubes pour un "best of." Un retour à tes racines (une autre rumeur) avec les chansons nouvelles est une meilleure idée, à mon avi.

Euphoria
04-01-2011, 02:14 AM
More brown-nosing, I see.

Deepwaters
04-01-2011, 04:08 AM
More brown-nosing, I see.

Saying she doesn't have enough hits to justify a "best of" album is "brown-nosing" to you? I think you need your mental glasses adjusted.

Scruffydog777
04-01-2011, 09:24 AM
I really think a best of album will have to have something extra to sell it such as a couple of new songs. Pictures alone wont be enough.
I think one thing that might help out an album like this is if she came up with some videos for songs that didn't have videos with them before . Songs like A quoi rêve une jeune fille, or coeur deja pris. Two beautiful songs and if they featured her, I'm sure it's something her fans would love to see.

User22
04-01-2011, 09:57 AM
I really think a best of album will have to have something extra to sell it such as a couple of new songs. Pictures alone wont be enough.
I think one thing that might help out an album like this is if she came up with some videos for songs that didn't have videos with them before . Songs like A quoi rêve une jeune fille, or coeur deja pris. Two beautiful songs and if they featured her, I'm sure it's something her fans would love to see.

Sounds like an okay idea. But the thing is, she's ten years older now so those songs won't exactly fit her in my opinion...

Euphoria
04-01-2011, 12:40 PM
Saying she doesn't have enough hits to justify a "best of" album is "brown-nosing" to you? I think you need your mental glasses adjusted.

Except there's already you know....a best hits album. Now, if she were going to put out a remix album, it would make more sense. I like Scruffy's idea about some new videos, but I just don't see that happening. It seems odd for her to want to promote old songs and photos.

Scruffydog777
04-01-2011, 03:10 PM
Sounds like an okay idea. But the thing is, she's ten years older now so those songs won't exactly fit her in my opinion...

Maybe A quoi rêve une jeune fille (of what a "young" girl dreams) was a poor choice as far as her age now, but there are plenty of others that could and I think this idea is doable money wise and something her fans would love to see, but realisticly, I doubt something like this could or ever would happen for various reasons.

pepelepew
04-01-2011, 04:24 PM
Asside from hard core fans, dwindling every day, I question any interest especially in France for her early hits. We already know how they feel about Psych and Ueds. Four albums and all of the songs she has covered aren't close to enough for a best of album. I wish it weren't true, but it is. She must put out an epic new album in my opinion for any lasting relevence. I am speaking to the masses that will make Alizee popular again, not her hard core fans like myself. I will love her no matter what. :wub:

Deepwaters
04-01-2011, 05:49 PM
Except there's already you know....a best hits album. Now, if she were going to put out a remix album, it would make more sense. I like Scruffy's idea about some new videos, but I just don't see that happening. It seems odd for her to want to promote old songs and photos.

What best hits album? Are you talking about En Concert? A live album and a best hits album aren't the same thing.

Anyway what's this "except"? You know something -- that "brown nosing" bullshit was unworthy of anyone interested in civilized discourse and I think you owe everyone here, especially the ones you intended that insulting absurdity to reference, whoever that was, at least an explanation and probably an apology.

You're a different sort of creature than the type of troll we get on this forum from time to time. All of your digs at Alizée seem to be sincere and meant as constructive criticism. The same cannot be said, however, for the way you treat other posters. That's unwise.

Regarding what you said about her, as opposed to us, I don't agree that a remix album would be a good idea at present. That's the sort of thing done by a successful artist with a big fan base. At this point, she no longer is that. She has a fan base, but it's fairly small, if passionate. A remix album would suffer from the same flaw as a best-of album. The only ones who would want to buy it and hear it are existing fans, and there just aren't enough of those left.

I said before that in making a comeback two and a half years ago, Alizée was not so much a returning artist as a brand-new one with a jump-start. Because she's doing things that are so different from the old days, she could not simply appear as if the years from 2004 to 2008 had never happened. She does have advantages over completely brand-new performers -- an existing fan base of sorts, lots of contacts in the music business and experience of same -- but she is not an established singer.

The loss of many of her old fans was inevitable. I suspect that it's probably gone about as far as it's going to, and anyone who's still interested in her music will continue to be. What she needs to do now is release something new that will resonate with a wide audience and create new fans. The best idea I've heard of the rumors flying around is the one of a return to her pop roots. I think UEDS was a cool experiment and an artistic success, but obviously it went over the heads of too many people, and was not the sort of music they were interested in hearing. That was what people predicted who first heard it before it was released: that it was artistically great, but would bomb commercially. Now that's fine if what she wants is a career in alternative-indie music without a lot of commercial potential but with much artistic satisfaction. There is nothing wrong with that. My sense, though, is that she wants something a little different. Not "more" -- only in the U.S. is anything that earns less money automatically considered "less," and it is NOT one of our positive national qualities -- but different.

Although there is no guarantee, and she is not entitled, a pop album would have the best potential -- well, really the only potential -- of hitting the big time. If that's what she wants to do, hit the big time again, then that's what she needs to do, and it needs to be promoted seriously, and even then it's a gamble. No guarantees, except failure is guaranteed if no attempt is made.

User22
04-01-2011, 06:51 PM
She meant "Tout Alizée"...but yeah...uhh im out :S

FanDeAliFee
04-01-2011, 06:57 PM
I said before that in making a comeback two and a half years ago, Alizée was not so much a returning artist as a brand-new one with a jump-start. Because she's doing things that are so different from the old days, she could not simply appear as if the years from 2004 to 2008 had never happened.

While Psychédélices was more "synthy" than the earlier albums, I found its music and imagery largely maintained the spirit of Alizée's earlier work, and expected it would appeal to the fans of that work.

In contrast, I thought UEdS was a much bigger musical and dramatic shift. Not a single cheerful number was offered - hardly surprising, considering the tragic destiny of the album's protagonist. Some of the music was rather "thinly" orchestrated. We never had a high-production-value video, as much as I liked the one for Les collines, given its budget.

But with overall recorded music sales headed for the gutter (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=200000&postcount=55), how can I fault anyone looking to justify their financial investment?

...a pop album would have the best potential -- well, really the only potential -- of hitting the big time. If that's what she wants to do, hit the big time again, then that's what she needs to do, and it needs to be promoted seriously, and even then it's a gamble. No guarantees, except failure is guaranteed if no attempt is made.

Sadly, considering the fatal destiny of the recording industry, I think most singers really must start to look at any recording they produce as a loss leader which simply markets them for live performance work. If they cannot afford to give it away, they should think twice about recording it. And if fans want new recordings from some artist, they might think about patronage schemes.

Mon Maquis
04-01-2011, 08:11 PM
What best hits album? Are you talking about En Concert? A live album and a best hits album aren't the same thing.


Man you don't know what your talking about....you don't even know what "Tout" is....

Your making yourself look like a fool...

Euphoria
04-01-2011, 08:14 PM
Theres nothing wrong with trying something new and coming out with an album that isn't very commercial. The biggest problem is the TIME she is taking to release these albums. She took 4 years to come back with Psychedelices. Since most of her original fan-base were Mylene fans, I assume they followed Mylene because she came out with 1 album during Alizee's hiatus, and then another only 8 months or so after Alizee came back. There are artists who start working on an album after a tour, and that album is out in less than a year! Sure, UEDS didn't sell well and thats okay, but if she takes another 2-3 years for her next album, I think her career is doomed.

lefty12357
04-01-2011, 08:32 PM
Theres nothing wrong with trying something new and coming out with an album that isn't very commercial. The biggest problem is the TIME she is taking to release these albums. She took 4 years to come back with Psychedelices. Since most of her original fan-base were Mylene fans, I assume they followed Mylene because she came out with 1 album during Alizee's hiatus, and then another only 8 months or so after Alizee came back. There are artists who start working on an album after a tour, and that album is out in less than a year! Sure, UEDS didn't sell well and thats okay, but if she takes another 2-3 years for her next album, I think her career is doomed.

I agree that a long wait for the next album could be disastrous. There has been a loss of momentum with the commercial failure of UEDS and I just don't think she can leave things that way for long. I'm not recommending that she sacrifice quality in her haste, but the sooner she releases something good that will get her back on track, the better.

Rev
04-02-2011, 12:40 AM
I agree that a long wait for the next album could be disastrous. There has been a loss of momentum with the commercial failure of UEDS and I just don't think she can leave things that way for long. I'm not recommending that she sacrifice quality in her haste, but the sooner she releases something good that will get her back on track, the better.


Very true.

I hope the rumor that she was given a short time frame in which to do it is also true (in order to keep her focused). :)

Edit:

Man you don't know what your talking about....you don't even know what "Tout" is....

Your making yourself look like a fool...


Actually, making a comment like that only shows that you are the fool. :)

Scruffydog777
04-02-2011, 10:04 AM
It's possible that Alizee is under the gun to come up with something before the end of the year and so this thought of a best of album crossed her mind so she decided to send it out as a rumor to get some feedback. Well I'm surprised myself by how many people agree the time is wrong for such an album, but I think there's another possibility of why they're thinking along these lines.

Her trip to Mexico, for her concerts had to be an expensive endeavor, plus you add the fact that there was the failed autograph session before that. I was just looking at air fares on Air France for a round trip flight from Paris to Mexico. You usualy have to get tickets 2 months in advance to get the cheapest flights so I checked 3 months from now.

A round trip ticket in first class is $14,000, business is $5,000 and economy is $1,400. So how big a crew flew with her? I think around 20 give or take would be a conservative estimate. Of these, maybe about 4 flew up front (first or business) so a conservative guess would be about $40,000 would be a saft bet. Then you add in the failed autograph session flight which was probably another $20,000 minimum. Then you throw in all the expenses of putting these people up in hotels, feeding them, moving them to the different cities in Mexico, then you throw in the costs of renting the different theaters.

Then you go back to Paris. You keep paying your cast for practicing before the Rex concert was cancelled, plus the cost of renting the theater, then the same thing is repeated with the second concert. Bottom line is I don't think they could have made much money during the Psych era if any. Then you have the UEDS era where they must have taken a financial beating.

Bottom line is they probably have enough money to finance another album, but they're having their doubts about whether they should risk it or not. So they're trying to think of ways to raise some money for this endeavor and probably the cheapest idea they came across was a best of album. The songs are already there. All you have to do is package it and sell it. It was worth tossing the idea out as a rumor to see what kind of feed back you got and you could always deny it if the response was negative as such seems to be the case, which has me worried.

It shows to me who ever is running this show is an amateur. Doesn't really know the business. Has no faith in what they are doing or maybe not enough money for what they want to do.