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wasabi622
09-05-2011, 02:55 AM
So I may be a little drunk right now.. but GODDAMN Alizée is too beautiful.

Sometimes, it honestly hurts. To know thatzz someone that beautiful while sexy in a non-slutty way exists out there.

Despitesz the fact that I was bitten by the lillly bug about 2 years ago.. when watching her videos after many rounds of beer pong, she's too cute to the pont that it hurts.

It kills me that she's changed so much. It hurts that she's barely in the spotlight anymore. She deservrs better. Where the friggen heck are all her fans from before?! Did they all abandom her??

What can I say? I'm a z lilly towner through and through.

I doubt I'll ever completely recover from the lilly bug bite. And sabes que, I don't mind if I don't. I love her y todo.

SaintÀlizee
09-05-2011, 09:32 AM
o.O Bro. It's mutual. :P stay real, Wasabi. Your deepest thoughts are surfacing :D

Finnishguy
09-05-2011, 09:56 AM
Yea.. That's true, she is so sexy, cute, beautiful etc, oh, so true.. But...

What you would think if you would know her really, in real life. All things aren't always so easy. I just mean, you've only feels about surface. And I understand it!

And, sometimes it hurts me too. Because I'd want know her in real life, not only in my dreams. It's impossible to understand those things in mind, so I have decided that I won't talks about them. Never...

ALS
09-05-2011, 12:01 PM
wasabi622 you had to get drunk to realize this fact of life? :D

You don't need alcohol to prove to yourself that She's sooooooooooooo beautiful and sexy and cute z at the same time. :p

SlipshodDread
09-05-2011, 01:11 PM
In my experience, the more attractive ones are more full of themselves (I'm not saying that's the case with Alizée, but getting a number 1 single + album before being 18 wouldn't exactly help if you know what I mean :P). Also, and again this may or may not apply to Alizée (I can't say as I do not know her now and obviously did not at any time before) but fame changes people. A friend of mine recently was on national TV in the xfactor, now he is getting loads of attention, and the last time I spoke to him it was like I didn't know him, he was completely different in how he spoke and acted to people, in a bad way.

Everyone has personal problems, the only difference is in how we show it. Just because someone is beautiful, young and famous, doesn't mean he/she is unable to feel sad or have regret/fear/despair about certain things, it's that those who are famous have to hide it. Whereas with any of us we would be absolutely happy to tell our couple of best mates and no one else will know or be that interested, without celebrities it is obviously the complete opposite. They say they have one personal problem and the next day everyone knows about it, look at celebrity divorces for example.


My point is, you see a beautiful young woman, with a child and a massive smile across her face, but you don't know what goes on behind her eyes, so saying she is this, that or the other is a shallow guess at who she really is.

I don't mean to be a killjoy or anything lol, I first started listening to her music because I thought she was hot... :P

Uroboros
09-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Now tell us something we don't know! :p


GODDAMN Alizée is too beautiful
The most undeniable truth!

mzracing76
09-05-2011, 02:41 PM
We all know Alizee is the most beautiful woman in the world, why is this even an issue?

Future Raptor Ace
09-05-2011, 05:36 PM
In my experience, the more attractive ones are more full of themselves (I'm not saying that's the case with Alizée, but getting a number 1 single + album before being 18 wouldn't exactly help if you know what I mean :P). Also, and again this may or may not apply to Alizée (I can't say as I do not know her now and obviously did not at any time before) but fame changes people. A friend of mine recently was on national TV in the xfactor, now he is getting loads of attention, and the last time I spoke to him it was like I didn't know him, he was completely different in how he spoke and acted to people, in a bad way.

Everyone has personal problems, the only difference is in how we show it. Just because someone is beautiful, young and famous, doesn't mean he/she is unable to feel sad or have regret/fear/despair about certain things, it's that those who are famous have to hide it. Whereas with any of us we would be absolutely happy to tell our couple of best mates and no one else will know or be that interested, without celebrities it is obviously the complete opposite. They say they have one personal problem and the next day everyone knows about it, look at celebrity divorces for example.


My point is, you see a beautiful young woman, with a child and a massive smile across her face, but you don't know what goes on behind her eyes, so saying she is this, that or the other is a shallow guess at who she really is.

I don't mean to be a killjoy or anything lol, I first started listening to her music because I thought she was hot... :P
^A+ post there bud, you are right; we only see stage Alizee and not the real Alizee.
We all know Alizee is the most beautiful woman in the world, why is this even an issue?^Theres a lot hotter bro; trust me. Go to NYC and just walk around for an hour and see the type of girls there; you will be amazed. (Travelers tip, you may want to wear baggy pants :) ) Alizee is hott but there are plenty hotter out there ... some you may even get a chance with. Chin up everyone, the Alizee crush is just that!

SlipshodDread
09-05-2011, 06:46 PM
If you spend about 10 minutes in an eastern european club you'll see more ridiculously attractive women than you have in the rest of your life. It's crazy

Jake04
09-05-2011, 07:50 PM
If you spend about 10 minutes in an eastern european club you'll see more ridiculously attractive women than you have in the rest of your life. It's crazy
Agree. However, 99.9% of them don't have the talent and personality of Alizee. I look at the total package. :D

Un-rêve
09-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Theres a lot hotter bro; trust me. Go to NYC and just walk around for an hour and see the type of girls there; you will be amazed. (Travelers tip, you may want to wear baggy pants :) ) Alizee is hott but there are plenty hotter out there ... some you may even get a chance with. Chin up everyone, the Alizee crush is just that!


OK but are they sooooooooooooo beautiful and sexy and cute z at the same time! ;)

Yeah Alizée's hottness is just the icing on the cake and you should know that!

Well yeah there's nothing like a pair of soft silky smooth legs! Yeah I still think about her more than others but she broke my heart. Alizée is definitely the type we all desire though.. you know petite.. sultry dark brown eyes.. nice features.. fine ass and all that! I don't mean to be disrespectful but hell yeah sexy is cute and fine too!

Well I remember one girl who was just pure sex.. her legs were soooooooo soft, silky and smooth. Hell yeah I fell in luv with her and her legs too!

WOW! :wub:

Sorry but I just felt like defending her out of the goodness of my dumb old heart. :rolleyes:

ALS
09-05-2011, 08:38 PM
If you spend about 10 minutes in an eastern european club you'll see more ridiculously attractive women than you have in the rest of your life. It's crazy

I'll second that one. I have three customers with mail order brides, two Ukrainian and one from the Czech Republic. Beautiful, sexy beyond belief, and all three are extremely nice. The one husband almost lost his Ukrainian wife last year after turning into what I call a man-idiot. He started treating her like a dog, taking her for granted and she rightly so walked out on him. A week later he told me he was on his knees literally in tears apologizing and begging her to come back.

User22
09-05-2011, 10:26 PM
Alizee is hott butt

Eh, I'd have to agree...

Future Raptor Ace
09-05-2011, 11:29 PM
Eh, I'd have to agree...
Lol .. :2_thumbs:

SlipshodDread
09-06-2011, 09:47 AM
I'll second that one. I have three customers with mail order brides, two Ukrainian and one from the Czech Republic. Beautiful, sexy beyond belief, and all three are extremely nice. The one husband almost lost his Ukrainian wife last year after turning into what I call a man-idiot. He started treating her like a dog, taking her for granted and she rightly so walked out on him. A week later he told me he was on his knees literally in tears apologizing and begging her to come back.


Usually most of them are fairly tall (5ft 9/10) and stay in shape, plus their face shapes... I don't know what it is, but it is very hot. Plus their accents, for some people it's annoying, but I find it kind of cute, much like Alizée speaking English. Plus they're strong willed and independent.

Basically everyone I know who has gone out there has said the same thing, that the clubs are absolutely rammed with hot women, and that the least attractive ones are generally about as hot as some of the usual hot chicks. Of course it depends what clubs you go to...

So yeah, of course they may lack the talent Alizée has, but i'm fairly sure this discussion was only ever superficial anyway "soooooooooooooo beautiful and sexy and cute"

rcs
09-07-2011, 05:01 AM
Where the friggen heck are all her fans from before?! Did they all abandom her??

I can't speak for all, but as an early AAm follower, we're still here. Some are on AF or just follow her on twitter & facebook. As a Lili fan, that means you end up meeting & chatting to other fans, more so, than seeing new updates about her. Trust me, I remember the dry years of zero pics or any news, let alone, rumors. Some fans have become my good friends long after the last note of her concert tour. And we still keep in touch. They're my support structure when I have withdrawals. To those early fans still lurking...:hello:

Scruffydog777
09-07-2011, 09:53 AM
There are many women in this world as beautiful as Alizée, but there is something indefinably special about her and her looks that I am no closer to figuring out today, than I was when I first set eyes on her 4 1/2 years ago.

User22
09-07-2011, 01:46 PM
There are many women in this world as beautiful as Alizée, but there is something indefinably special about her and her looks that I am no closer to figuring out today, than I was when I first set eyes on her 4 1/2 years ago.

Did meeting her in person bring you closer to narrowing it down to what makes her so amazing? Nevermind, that would probably open up so many more choices :D

Un-rêve
09-07-2011, 03:08 PM
There are many women in this world as beautiful as Alizée, but there is something indefinably special about her and her looks that I am no closer to figuring out today, than I was when I first set eyes on her 4 1/2 years ago.

Yes there are many beautiful women in this world but yeah what set's Alizée apart from the others and anyone else I've ever met is that there's something very special and beautiful within her too. She shines and she's sooooooooooooo beautiful.. she's beautiful like an angel! :wub:

Euphoria
09-08-2011, 11:50 AM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

User22
09-08-2011, 12:43 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

She's used to this "crap"...at least we're not going overboard like the fans she met in Mexico haha

Edit:

Oh and yeah, she's been trudging through the "crap" of being attractive every day of her life since 1999 btw

Jake04
09-08-2011, 01:55 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

Euphoria is sooooooooooooo...:sigh: beautiful...and...:sigh: sexy and...:sigh: cute z at the same time!:facepalm:

THERE! I said it! Happy?! Now, will you pleeeeaaaseeee STOP hating?! :D::D::D:stop::

Deepwaters
09-08-2011, 02:30 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

She'd smile, and take it as "situation normal." Because it is, of course.

I usually avoid telling her how incredibly attractive she is, mostly because everyone else does. Instead, I compliment/critique her music and performances. But that doesn't mean I don't notice. I certainly do. :)

ALS
09-08-2011, 03:31 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

Probably wondering who that woman is, that has her panties in a wad, that' s being a total kill joy. :D

User22
09-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Probably wondering who that woman is, that has her panties in a wad, that' s being a total kill joy. :D

Glad someone said it, cause I didn't have the OO's to hehe

Un-rêve
09-08-2011, 08:29 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.

That was a God damn tear jerker but there are alot of things that are important to some people around here missy.

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mzracing76
09-08-2011, 09:23 PM
there is only 1 Alizee !!!

HelixSix
09-08-2011, 09:41 PM
Nice job guys. Gang up on the person who has an alternate and maybe more realistic view of what Alizée might actually think. But the vast majority still make the automatic connection that what they think = what Alizée thinks and that what they say about her are things she would like to hear.

It's okay for a drunk guy to make a sloppy redundant thread, but when Euphoria has the perspective to put herself in Alizée's shoes it's worthy of mass scalding. How about you guys make the connection that Euphoria might know a little bit about what she is saying because she is an actual girl.

What I say will probably get flamed too, especially since a moderator is promoting that type of behavior. But I probably deserve it for considering the possibility that Alizée might have other thoughts about the type of attention she gets on here and for not automatically insulting a female on these boards when she is talking about someone of her own gender.

Nobody even asked her to explain or go into depth. Why...because you don't want to hear it, for many reasons.

Un-rêve
09-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Nice job guys. Gang up on the person...

C'mon from what I've seen in the past with Euphoria's negativity towards us it seems that she most likely thrives on it! ;) I was just having fun with her anyway. :p

lefty12357
09-08-2011, 10:22 PM
Well I don't claim to know what Alizée would think about this, but she is likely so accustomed to being told how attractive she is that it has ceased to register much with her. However, I doubt she is offended by it as long as it doesn't become totally tasteless.

User22
09-08-2011, 11:30 PM
Well I don't claim to know what Alizée would think about this, but she is likely so accustomed to being told how attractive she is that it has ceased to register much with her. However, I doubt she is offended by it as long as it doesn't become totally tasteless.

:beer: we have the same thoughts...

ALS
09-09-2011, 10:05 AM
Well I don't claim to know what Alizée would think about this, but she is likely so accustomed to being told how attractive she is that it has ceased to register much with her. However, I doubt she is offended by it as long as it doesn't become totally tasteless.

Ditto: Women love and crave this kind of attention. They want to know they are still attractive to guys even though they're getting older, married with children.

I have a couple of married women late thirties early forties that come into work and gush about the cute twenty something guys that hit on them at the gym. It really makes them feel good, that they're still attractive to men and especially the younger ones.

Euphoria
09-09-2011, 11:26 AM
No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying. She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.

Edit:

Ditto: Women love and crave this kind of attention. They want to know they are still attractive to guys even though they're getting older, married with children.

I have a couple of married women late thirties early forties that come into work and gush about the cute twenty something guys that hit on them at the gym. It really makes them feel good, that they're still attractive to men and especially the younger ones.

Well I don't claim to know what Alizée would think about this, but she is likely so accustomed to being told how attractive she is that it has ceased to register much with her. However, I doubt she is offended by it as long as it doesn't become totally tasteless.
A drunk guy gushing about his secret fantasies of being with Alizee is pretty tasteless.

Jake04
09-09-2011, 11:37 AM
No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying. She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.

Now, this is much better. I wished you would have put it this way the first time around. We would have taken your argument more seriously, especially coming from a female like you. We understand that there's going to be disagreement here. But, to go negative without explaining anything and just calling the entire thread "crap" was just inviting trouble.

SlipshodDread
09-09-2011, 12:01 PM
To be honest I think you're taking it far too seriously. Do you really think Alizée cares about the INDIVIDUAL opinions of people she doesn't even know? Or we can broaden this even further, do any celebrities care about what people they dont know think about them?

My point is, unless you actually know someone personally. You tend not to give a shit. How many people do you walk past in a day that could be forming an opinion of you, that you honestly don't think about or just don't generally give a shit.

With celebrities the same is true but they simply have more popularity. Popularity is inversely proportional to how much people care about individual opinions. That is, the more popular you are, the less you give a shit about what one person thinks of you.

Common sense is your ally.

Un-rêve
09-09-2011, 03:42 PM
No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying.

OK fair enough but this is an Alizée fan forum where we can share our thoughts with each other. This is just one thread but nonetheless there will always be posts/threads in regard to how beautiful she is.. but at the same time there will always be posts/threads dedicated to her carreer, her songs, her performances, her merchandise, her interviews. her concerts, her family, etc, etc, etc. ;)

You do speak as if Alizée is actually reading all our posts though and you're just speculating that she would be annoyed or saddened by it. Sheesh to be frank I've seen total lack of respect from some people towards Alizée on these boards from time to time and I believe she would be more concerned about that.

Well besides sucking up too much of her time, hopefully she's either been too busy having fun with other things such as family and friends than to come here reading all our so called "crap" as you put it.


She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.


Yeah this might well be true for many woman. Well the reason why I still follow Alizée is because she is special to me. I discovered this beautiful angel back in November 2001 and since that fateful day I've been dedicated to her ever since.

Seriously if I was shallow enough to only be interested in Alizée because of her looks I would've lost interest in her many years ago! EVERYTHING about her captured my heart and I'm sure many others here feel the same too.

Euphoria
09-09-2011, 03:55 PM
Alizee posted about your donation on her facebook. Would you really want new people coming on here and seeing threads like this? Honestly, it's embarrassing.

SaintÀlizee
09-09-2011, 04:12 PM
No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying. She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.

Edit:




A drunk guy gushing about his secret fantasies of being with Alizee is pretty tasteless.

This explains why you're the way you are. I know plenty of girls who love to be complimented, and if they didn't, they wouldn't make such an effort to look their best. Also, she's known throughout the world, thus, making her attractive to millions. She isn't known world wide for her personality. Nothing he said was tasteless, and to me, all you contribute to this forum is hate, and I'm not so sure many people like you here. I know I don't. Your profile pic could be the epitome of hypocrisy in regards to what I just quoted. It seems to me, with the posture and everything, on a forum such as this where a woman is very much complimented for her looks, that you're craving a little attention yourself, aren't you?

I don't like you, with your absurd generalizations. If you don't want to be seen as only a pretty face, make an effort not to be such a bitch. That goes for any girl. I don't like your personality.

Oh, did I go too far? Sorry.

Also, one more thing! You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Yes, I'm sure many women would hate to be looked as only a pretty face, but that's the thing, Alizee is an image in our heads. We don't know her in reality. NONE OF US DO. We don't know her PERSONALLY, so all we have is the admiration of her looks. I'd love to talk about Alizee's personality, if I knew it. And no, interviews and song lyrics are not enough to draw any conclusion of what she is like in real life.

Euphoria
09-09-2011, 04:30 PM
If you think there's nothing wrong with this thread, I don't know what to tell you. It's creepy, end of story. The only women that like to be constantly complimented and fawned over have no confidence or self-esteem, that's why they always need to be reassured. Please stop posting stuff like this, it makes you guys seem like total creeps. The last thing this forum needs is ANOTHER "omg shes soooooo hawt" thread.

SaintÀlizee
09-09-2011, 04:39 PM
If you think there's nothing wrong with this thread, I don't know what to tell you. It's creepy, end of story. The only women that like to be constantly complimented and fawned over have no confidence or self-esteem, that's why they always need to be reassured. Please stop posting stuff like this, it makes you guys seem like total creeps. The last thing this forum needs is ANOTHER "omg shes soooooo hawt" thread.

OMG!!! SHE'S SO HOT! LOL! Creeps? Really? Yeah, I'm peeping through Alizee's window as this post is being written. I don't know what to tell you, either. Take a few xanax.

This forum needs more of EVERYTHING, because Alizee is AWESOME!

lefty12357
09-09-2011, 04:44 PM
No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying. She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.


Makes me think of her Facebook. For instance, when she posted about the JB charity thing, hundreds of people commented "I love you" or "You're so beautiful", rather than responding to the subject of her post. That's got to be annoying, and it made me feel a bit sad for her at the time. It's like they never gave a thought to what she was thinking, feeling or doing. All that mattered to them was her pretty face. Now maybe that was not their intent, but that's the way it came across.

SaintÀlizee
09-09-2011, 04:53 PM
Makes me think of her Facebook. For instance, when she posted about the JB charity thing, hundreds of people commented "I love you" or "You're so beautiful", rather than responding to the subject of her post. That's got to be annoying, and it made me feel a bit sad for her at the time. It's like they never gave a thought to what she was thinking, feeling or doing. All that mattered to them was her pretty face. Now maybe that was not their intent, but that's the way it came across.

Antoher one? FYI, top secret, bro... she has a husband. !!! I know, right? I thought she was living on her own lonely little island, and no one loved her. I was wrong. She is very much loved, it seems.

Come on, really? You felt sorry for her because many people were complimenting the way she looked? Oh, how sad. How VERY sad she must have been. I guess being an incredibly attractive woman does bare a burden.

Good lord.

Euphoria
09-09-2011, 04:57 PM
SaintAlizee, seems you don't know much about women. Good luck with that. ;)

SaintÀlizee
09-09-2011, 05:00 PM
SaintAlizee, seems you don't know much about women. Good luck with that. ;)

:( I don't. I grew up with three sisters, and am currently dating the wildest, most EUPHORIC person alive. She's always happy! And I love her! You, where exactly is the euphoria? All you do is dwell on this site.

ALS
09-09-2011, 05:27 PM
Euphoria,

I've been into Alizée since December 2004 and there are two facts that can not be disputed.

1.) In the professional side of her life she loves and craves all the attention she can get from her fans. That includes her fans on boards like this one. If she is doing an interview she will cheerfully interact with her fans. There are several videos floating around of her coming out of a TV or Radio station posing for pictures, signing autographs and taking a few minutes to talk to the fans who showed up to greet her.

2.)On the other hand when it comes to her private, family and home life she wants to be anonymous and treated like any other house wife and mother.
In other words if your a fan don't bother her and stay out of her life when she is out with friends and family or be prepared to get your head taken off.

More than a few paparazzi in Paris and Mexico, have learned that lesson the hard way, verbally, visually and in court. :thumb:

If Alizée doesn't like all this so called attention Euphoria, then explain to me why during the Enfoires 2011 Concert when all the performers are on stage dancing, notice where Alizée spends most of her time during the performance?

Right out front dancing up a storm staying very close to the singer. You sure as heck don't do that unless you really like the spot light. :)
SEE NUMBER ONE ABOVE. :D


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To the point of what would Alizée think if she read this so called CRAP. She would be saying well wasabi622 is another guaranteed CD sale. :D

Un-rêve
09-09-2011, 05:59 PM
In other words if your a fan don't bother her and stay out of her life when she is out with friends and family or be prepared to get your head taken off.



Well on the flip side of that.. she can also be one of the nicest people that you ever met. ;)

HelixSix
09-09-2011, 06:35 PM
This is what happens when guys (ALS, Saint) don't like what they hear. They try to create their own truth and dismiss everything else. Go look at the thread about Alizée being athletic and see how stretched the evidence is, if you can call it that. You are doing the same things here in addition to insulting the person you have no intention of getting along with.

You associate the girls you know with Alizée which is thoughtless and rude in itself while also trying to associate them with a celebrity / entertainer / performer's lifestyle. Celebrities have duties and obligations, many of which they aren't enthused about but they put on a smile regardless. Someone like Alizée will get millions more compliments, complaints and crazy comments than all of your friends combined in their lifetimes. You and the girls you know will never understand the extreme excess of it which is fine. But when you try to make a comparison it is absurd.

People have tried to make your arguments on here before and they failed. That's because they are based on opinion, complete denial of what anybody else says, unfounded assumptions about what Alizée thinks and how she feels, things she has never said, slander, and weak examples like "she is smiling in this video so obviously she craves attention all the time."

Future Raptor Ace
09-09-2011, 06:44 PM
I wonder what she'd think if she saw this crap.
Ooooooooooh yea becuase girls hate it when you call them cute beautiful and sexy right? Get a grip!

Got news for you Euphoria ... your shit stinks too!

SpanishFan
09-09-2011, 09:10 PM
How about you guys make the connection that Euphoria might know a little bit about what she is saying because she is an actual girl.



I am not saying that your point of view is not valid, but in the same way you say that she may know better what she is saying because she is a girl, i could replay that, because she is a girl, she will never know the kind of atraction that Alizée causes in most of us. Or at least, not in so many levels. I don´t think she fully understands that point, and that it is not her fault, it is just the way it is.

I agree that this thread does not apport anything new and it was written under "special" circunstances, i agree that Euphoria first post was calling for angry replies, and i understand that if i was a girl maybe my opinion would be closer to hers.

Having said that, i think people should stop getting so worried about what Alizée thinks. I mean, personally, i don´t really care what she would think about this or other threads. This is suposed to be a forum where everybody can have their say. Most of the times the comments towards her will be positive, cause we all are fans, and in some occasions someone can go little bit to far, but at the end of the day, and posting with respect, we should be able to say what we want regardless "what Alizée would think if she read that"

And of course, i don´t know how is her real personality, but i am sure she is mature and clever enough to not getting upset for some comments in a forum or in facebook. Thinking otherwise would be like saying that she is childish, inmature or insecure, which would be in the same level of thinking of her only in the "she is soooooo hot" way.

HelixSix
09-09-2011, 09:26 PM
I'm gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you are talking to girls in person when you "compliment" them. That being said, this is a completely different environment. Alizée can't slap you if you're being inappropriate, intrusive or just being a creep. And that's great for you because you can decide what you think is appropriate or disregard that notion altogether. In person she would have the option of dealing with you.

Combine this and all the other forums, the social networking sites, the youtube clips and then add up all the comments about and directed at her. Take a guess at what most of those comments would be about. It is not unreasonable to think that Alizée would be sick of hearing the word "hot", especially since it is not a word usually used in a respectable context.

Take all of the people who made those comments or all of the people who are yet to and line them up at her front door to give their "compliment" one by one. I don't think it is unreasonable to think she would get tired and disgusted very quickly. She wouldn't have time to do anything the rest of her life - even with all the guys that wouldn't show up out of shame and not having the stones to back up even a fraction of what they say online.

WhiteFeather
09-09-2011, 09:39 PM
I don't know if I am out of line for saying this since I'm a newbie, but I will anyway.

I understand where both sides are coming from. But honestly, this argument is childish, petty, and rather pointless. Yes she hears it a lot and is probably sick of it. But that just goes with the territory of being a celebrity (and an attractive one at that).

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you don't agree with it, at least respect it. Don't take potshots at the person. Act your age.

SlipshodDread
09-09-2011, 09:41 PM
I'm gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you are talking to girls in person when you "compliment" them. That being said, this is a completely different environment. Alizée can't slap you if you're being inappropriate, intrusive or just being a creep. And that's great for you because you can decide what you think is appropriate or disregard that notion altogether. In person she would have the option of dealing with you.

Combine this and all the other forums, the social networking sites, the youtube clips and then add up all the comments about and directed at her. Take a guess at what most of those comments would be about. It is not unreasonable to think that Alizée would be sick of hearing the word "hot", especially since it is not a word usually used in a respectable context.

Take all of the people who made those comments or all of the people who are yet to and line them up at her front door to give their "compliment" one by one. I don't think it is unreasonable to think she would get tired and disgusted very quickly. She wouldn't have time to do anything the rest of her life - even with all the guys that wouldn't show up out of shame and not having the stones to back up even a fraction of what they say online.

That hypothetical situation is point less.

I think she knows exactly what a lot of men comment about when speaking of her, and I doubt she gives two shits. Firstly because she is (As far as we do know and as far as it matters to any of us) happily married with a child that she absolutely adores.

Secondly, she doesn't have to read or be confronted with the comments. Do you really think she reads all the comments on her statuses on her facebook page? The golden rule for a celebrity is "to never read anything about yourself". Somehow I doubt she watches videos on youtube of her own performances, considering that she was the one performing in them. So she would not see the comments anyway.

Creeping would be closer to seeking her out in Paris or even worse in Ajaccio, or following her, rather than make comments about her. No one is saying anything they would like to do to her, just talking about her. I think the general consensus about Alizée among men is fairly obvious.

Also Alizée does not (or at the very least pretends not to) speak much English. So I doubt she is going to spend much time reading an English language forum or English comments on videos if she ever did actually watch herself on youtube (again hypothetically, because apparently we are allowed to make useless hypothetical situations now).


Also I am not one of the people who follows her daily life and has to have every piece of Alizée merchandise and photos etc. I find it wrong when people make comments about finding her private profile or looking at it. That to me is a bit too far. I am generally neutral in this argument, but so far all I see is a load of unproductive bull.

Future Raptor Ace
09-09-2011, 09:43 PM
I'm gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you are talking to girls in person when you "compliment" them. That being said, this is a completely different environment. Alizée can't slap you if you're being inappropriate, intrusive or just being a creep. And that's great for you because you can decide what you think is appropriate or disregard that notion altogether. In person she would have the option of dealing with you.

Combine this and all the other forums, the social networking sites, the youtube clips and then add up all the comments about and directed at her. Take a guess at what most of those comments would be about. It is not unreasonable to think that Alizée would be sick of hearing the word "hot", especially since it is not a word usually used in a respectable context.

Take all of the people who made those comments or all of the people who are yet to and line them up at her front door to give their "compliment" one by one. I don't think it is unreasonable to think she would get tired and disgusted very quickly. She wouldn't have time to do anything the rest of her life - even with all the guys that wouldn't show up out of shame and not having the stones to back up even a fraction of what they say online.
You honestly think Alizee gives a flying fuck about what people say about her on forums? LOL thats funny ... :thumb:

Euphoria
09-09-2011, 10:35 PM
In normal society your behavior would be seen as stalkerish and creepy, but since you're hidden behind a computer, you can say whatever you want. Why should what you say on the internet not matter? If someone examined the forum closely, I'm pretty sure they'd find psychotic personas on there who have an unhealthy obsession with Alizee who's a wife and a mother. Ugh.

Future Raptor Ace
09-09-2011, 10:47 PM
In normal society your behavior would be seen as stalkerish and creepy, but since you're hidden behind a computer, you can say whatever you want. Why should what you say on the internet not matter? If someone examined the forum closely, I'm pretty sure they'd find psychotic personas on there who have an unhealthy obsession with Alizee who's a wife and a mother. Ugh.
She is a celebrity... she is a public figure... if she cant deal with that than that is her problem. "Maybe" you are right about some people here having unhealthy obsessions but who are you to judge; do you have a degree in psychology that puts you in a position to make such a statement? Hey I am not hiding ... if you want my skype ill give it to you in a PM now lets see who is hiding!

Un-rêve
09-09-2011, 11:05 PM
I'm gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you are talking to girls in person when you "compliment" them. That being said, this is a completely different environment. Alizée can't slap you if you're being inappropriate, intrusive or just being a creep.


In normal society your behavior would be seen as stalkerish and creepy, but since you're hidden behind a computer, you can say whatever you want. Why should what you say on the internet not matter? If someone examined the forum closely, I'm pretty sure they'd find psychotic personas on there who have an unhealthy obsession with Alizee who's a wife and a mother. Ugh.


If any of this was aimed at me you both better think again.. my first post in this thread was about some girl I had a fling with and I said nothing wrong in that post in regard to Alizée... OK maybe the fine ass statement was disrespectful but I was provoked and was just having fun.. yeah my bad.

I doubt you give a shit though.. I've tried to get along with you here whereas others have just given up on you.

Jake04
09-09-2011, 11:06 PM
When FHM readers voted her as the second hottest woman in the world, I remember Papa Jo was quite proud of it that he even put it as Alizee was voted as THE hottest woman in France or Europe. Although we'd rather have Alizee voted as the second most talented or successful singer in the world, I'm sure Alizee was quite proud of it as well.

HelixSix
09-09-2011, 11:58 PM
That hypothetical situation is point less.
It might be to what you are talking about but that's not what I was addressing. But saying anything with reason behind it is probably pointless anyway. It seems the only things understood or acknowledged in here are insults.

Rev
09-10-2011, 12:00 AM
SaintAlizee, seems you don't know much about women. Good luck with that. ;)

:( ... and am currently dating the wildest, most EUPHORIC person alive. She's always happy! And I love her! You, where exactly is the euphoria? All you do is dwell on this site.

SA - Quite frankly, I'm not sure I believe it. Euphoria is right, you stil have a lot to learn about interacting with people.

Euphoria - Your later posts WERE much better.


If Alizée doesn't like all this so called attention .... then explain to me why during the Enfoires 2011 Concert when all the performers are on stage dancing, notice where Alizée spends most of her time during the performance?...Right out front dancing up a storm staying very close to the singer. You sure as heck don't do that unless you really like the spot light. :)


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To the point of what would Alizée think if she read this so called CRAP. She would be saying well wasabi622 is another guaranteed CD sale. :D

First of all, we recognize that she goes to these shows because she loves being a performer. She loves the attention in a nice controlled environment like a stage. This does not mean that she doesn't have feelings. Yes, she has learned to dismiss excessive fan behavior for the most part, but this does not mean that it doesn't get to her from time to time.

For the above video (one of my favorites) she was a "featured" performer. She led one of the groups out, was supposed to stay in front and maintain the energy, and certain interactions were planned. Because she recognized among that group as being a good dancer, a lot of the others naturally key off her, so a "lead" role in this seemingly impromptu activity was natural.

Still, all that being said, she did look like she was having a LOT of fun - didn't she. :)

Un-rêve
09-10-2011, 12:03 AM
When FHM readers voted her as the second hottest woman in the world, I remember Papa Jo was quite proud of it that he even put it as Alizee was voted as THE hottest woman in France or Europe. Although we'd rather have Alizee voted as the second most talented or successful singer in the world, I'm sure Alizee was quite proud of it as well.

Thanks Jake! That just made my day! :2_thumbs:

Rev
09-10-2011, 12:17 AM
When FHM readers voted her as the second hottest woman in the world, I remember Papa Jo was quite proud of it that he even put it as Alizee was voted as THE hottest woman in France or Europe. Although we'd rather have Alizee voted as the second most talented or successful singer in the world, I'm sure Alizee was quite proud of it as well.

Remember the interview she did on Corsican TV around the same time. She dressed and acted "simply beautiful." It was almost as though she was trying to show her neighbors "See, I've grown up, and I really did deserve to be voted as the most beautiful French woman."

http://youtu.be/rdquJZ3gmzU?hd=1

I thought she was so cute. :)

SaintÀlizee
09-10-2011, 12:22 AM
SA - Quite frankly, I'm not sure I believe it. Euphoria is right, you stil have a lot to learn about interacting with people.


That is a very strong conclusion you just drew there. That was, what, three posts on this thread, and now I am diagnosed with social anxiety? Dr. Rev, taking a crack at me, and then sugar coating the entire post as if you are classy. Worry about Euphoria's complete and total buzz kill on this forum, and don't worry about my interaction with REAL people.

Azhiri
09-10-2011, 12:29 AM
I'm not going to put words in Alizee's mouth as to how she personally feels about the attention, but this caught my eye. Please stop insulting Euphoria for stating FACT here:

No, women don't love and crave attention like that. A random compliment? Sure, but when you're constantly being complimented on your looks, it's really annoying. She's not just a pretty face. Women have talents and personalities (pretty sure you're aware of Alizee's) but when men constantly fawn over your looks, sometimes it makes you feel a little sad inside, because it seems that's all men see. Women are more creeped out by this behavior than you'd realize. Trust me.

This. Men need to see and understand this. There are so many times that women feel very objectified by the way men look and talk to us. Yes, it's good to know that we're attractive, but it is not the average woman's goal in life to just be pretty and liked by men for it. It's almost hard to be taken seriously for some women because people would rather exploit their appearance than listen to their ideas or goals. And yes, it does get VERY CREEPY sometimes.

This explains why you're the way you are. I know plenty of girls who love to be complimented, and if they didn't, they wouldn't make such an effort to look their best.

I doubt most women wake up in the morning, pick the right outfit, and do their makeup thinking "How can I get as many compliments as possible today?" Yes, we enjoy a compliment here and there, but we don't live for them. Personally I take pride in my appearance because I was raised to believe that a functioning member of society should look presentable.

I don't like you, with your absurd generalizations. If you don't want to be seen as only a pretty face, make an effort not to be such a bitch. That goes for any girl. I don't like your personality.

Oh, did I go too far? Sorry.

Oh, stop. "Absurd generalizations"... are you saying you know more about being a woman than a woman? I think you're the one making absurd generalizations.

Antoher one? FYI, top secret, bro... she has a husband. !!! I know, right? I thought she was living on her own lonely little island, and no one loved her. I was wrong. She is very much loved, it seems.

Come on, really? You felt sorry for her because many people were complimenting the way she looked? Oh, how sad. How VERY sad she must have been. I guess being an incredibly attractive woman does bare a burden.

Good lord.

Don't be insensitive. Come on, think about it - put yourself in HER place. You make a heartfelt post about something you care about on facebook hoping to get some support or feedback and all you see is thousands of unnecessary comments that are COMPLETELY unrelated to your post - "YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL / I LOVE YOU", etc. You really wouldn't be irritated in the slightest? I mean, good lord.

Guys. Don't try and tell us we are overreacting or exaggerating because at the end of the day, you don't know. You just don't know. It may sound dumb, but men don't go through what women do, so don't try to act like you know what you're talking about when it comes to what women enjoy or don't enjoy. Please, have some empathy.

I think Alizee is very beautiful too, and I've said it before, but I just felt I had to comment on this as one of the few female members of AAm. I won't speak on Euphoria's opinions, but the above quote is truth, and I'm gonna back her up on it.

Rev
09-10-2011, 12:41 AM
Well said Azhiri. :)

Euphoria
09-10-2011, 12:46 AM
Thanks Azhiri, nice to get another female opinion on this. :)

SaintÀlizee
09-10-2011, 12:49 AM
This. Men need to see and understand this. There are so many times that women feel very objectified by the way men look and talk to us. Yes, it's good to know that we're attractive, but it is not the average woman's goal in life to just be pretty and liked by men for it. It's almost hard to be taken seriously for some women because people would rather exploit their appearance than listen to their ideas or goals. And yes, it does get VERY CREEPY sometimes.



I doubt most women wake up in the morning, pick the right outfit, and do their makeup thinking "How can I get as many compliments as possible today?" Yes, we enjoy a compliment here and there, but we don't live for them. Personally I take pride in my appearance because I was raised to believe that a functioning member of society should look presentable.



Oh, stop. "Absurd generalizations"... are you saying you know more about being a woman than a woman? I think you're the one making absurd generalizations.



Don't be insensitive. Come on, think about it - put yourself in HER place. You make a heartfelt post about something you care about on facebook hoping to get some support or feedback and all you see is thousands of unnecessary comments that are COMPLETELY unrelated to your post - "YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL / I LOVE YOU", etc. You really wouldn't be irritated in the slightest? I mean, good lord.

Guys. Don't try and tell us we are overreacting or exaggerating because at the end of the day, you don't know. You just don't know.

I think Alizee is very beautiful too, and I've said it before, but I just felt I had to comment on this as one of the few female members of AAm. I won't speak on Euphoria's opinions, but the above quote is truth, and I'm gonna back her up on it.

I don't think she even monitors that facebook page, so no, not really. The world spins and it spins. And that generalization post goes beyond this thread, by the way. I decided to fire back at her, and now I'm the target, but that's cool. < not being sarcastic. I won't troll every thread attempting to start an argument, essentially lessening the quality of this forum. She will. Good night, Azhiri. Respect.

Jake04
09-10-2011, 02:53 AM
Remember the interview she did on Corsican TV around the same time. She dressed and acted "simply beautiful." It was almost as though she was trying to show her neighbors "See, I've grown up, and I really did deserve to be voted as the most beautiful French woman."

http://youtu.be/rdquJZ3gmzU?hd=1

I thought she was so cute. :)

I thought so too! This is what I love about her. She's not even trying to look "hot" or "sexy" unlike most celebrities. Take this one as another example. She knew she was going to perform with seven other female singers and yet she chose to wear the most conservative dress of them all (except for Laam who's wearing a tuxedo and whom I believe is a lesbian, which I DON'T have a problem with :thumb:).

Alizee was the second youngest in the crowd (Joyce Jonathan is just 21) and could have worn a "sexier" outfit if she wanted to but didn't.:(:D She didn't even changed her outfit unlike Sofia Essaïdi and Tina Arena, whom even in her forties was wearing a much revealing dress than her.

However, despite of this and the fact that Alizee was not even tagged on the video (the official video before it was taken down, not the one below), 99.9% of the comments were about Alizee! :wub::wub::wub:

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SlipshodDread
09-10-2011, 05:46 AM
In normal society your behavior would be seen as stalkerish and creepy, but since you're hidden behind a computer, you can say whatever you want. Why should what you say on the internet not matter? If someone examined the forum closely, I'm pretty sure they'd find psychotic personas on there who have an unhealthy obsession with Alizee who's a wife and a mother. Ugh.


You can find psychotic people about pretty much anything. All it means is a loss of understanding or false beliefs and potentially hallucinations. So being on acid would actually be pretty much the same as being psychotic even if temporary.

Bearing in mind how broad the statement is, I fail to see your point.

The only reason you're seeing it here is because you choose to be here and see it. Think about how much stars such as Rihanna etc must get in the way of this. I'm not saying you should have to be exposed to it from here, far from it, but it is a known risk and therefore complaining about it isn't going to do much.


I do agree with you that it does quite often go too far here. But Alizée isn't going to read it, so it's really null and void

JoeNY
09-10-2011, 05:48 AM
The jealous rage that women feel towards Alizee - not only here but on practically every Youtube video comment section. :)) I think these women can handle guys lusting for Alizee, but when they read comments expressing pure love for Alizee and wanting to marry her, the instinctual claws come out. :D

ALS
09-10-2011, 11:48 AM
JoeNY oh how true that is. In the early days when I got into Alizée, she was pregnant with Annily. The guys posts were tearing Jeremy apart and the woman were tearing Alizée apart for being married to Jeremy.
Those women back then were down right vicious towards Alizée.

That talk seemed to evaporate once Annily was born.

Fact is, Alizée has said several times in interviews she knows how much her fans LOVE her. Those are her words not mine.

Woman come here to find out what it is about Alizée that drives men's fondness for her. The problem is, it is right in front of their noses and they don't see it.

The only woman past member that I can remember who seemed to get what made Alizée so special to guys, was Rocket.

Most guys can't figure out what it is, yet they want her because of it.

As far as women go I have deal with this crap at work. When I'm dating someone I can't ever take them to work or even tell anyone I'm dating.

If the women that work for me find out I'm dating they want to meet her, then I have to put up with them ripping her apart, telling me I can do better and I need to find someone else.

They don't mind working for a guy, if I got married, then they would have to work for a woman just like them, and that scares them to death. :p

Euphoria
09-10-2011, 12:32 PM
Who is ripping Alizee apart? No one. I never said anything insulting regarding Alizee. I know she is gorgeous and unique but these threads are creepy. Please don't act that way around women in your normal lives because that's the fastest way to scare them off.

mzracing76
09-10-2011, 01:10 PM
i agree with you 100% Euphoria, some of these thread messages tend to sound a bit creepy. and yes, Do not act like this around women in real life.
mz

Future Raptor Ace
09-10-2011, 02:36 PM
Who is ripping Alizee apart? No one. I never said anything insulting regarding Alizee. I know she is gorgeous and unique but these threads are creepy. Please don't act that way around women in your normal lives because that's the fastest way to scare them off.
So you are telling me if I went up to you (you do not know me) an said ... Hey Euphoria .... what kinda ice coffee is that ..... ohh yea I like that kind too its very good ..... Oh hi Im mike by the way how is everything going today? (listen and talk to you about your day) Oh by the way I just love your dress, you really look pretty.... that you wouldn't at least have a smile on and start talking to me?

ALS
09-10-2011, 02:59 PM
Who is ripping Alizee apart? No one. I never said anything insulting regarding Alizee. I know she is gorgeous and unique but these threads are creepy. Please don't act that way around women in your normal lives because that's the fastest way to scare them off.

Euphoria my comment was never directed towards you and why would it, since you have never made any disparaging comments about her?

I thought I made that clear in my post that these comments were happening back in late 2004 early 2005 a year after she and Jeremy got married and she was pregnant with Annily.

Un-rêve
09-10-2011, 05:06 PM
If you think there's nothing wrong with this thread, I don't know what to tell you. It's creepy, end of story. The only women that like to be constantly complimented and fawned over have no confidence or self-esteem, that's why they always need to be reassured. Please stop posting stuff like this, it makes you guys seem like total creeps. The last thing this forum needs is ANOTHER "omg shes soooooo hawt" thread.

This is a fuckin Joke! First of all you come in here bickering about wanting us to see Alizée and women in general for more than just sex objects. Then when we say we do ( well atleast in Alizée's case ) we get insults thrown at us.

Unfuckinbeleivable! Well it's pretty twisted too! Nonetheless, don't think I haven't seen others here instigating trouble aswell and guess what! It's most likeley cuz they wanna get on the best side of a piece of ass! Ironic isn't it!?

This thread was never about Alizée for some of you just like many others that you've disrupted with your spite ffs!

SaintÀlizee
09-10-2011, 05:55 PM
This is a fuckin Joke! First of all you come in here bickering about wanting us to see Alizée and women in general for more than just sex objects. Then when we say we do ( well atleast in Alizée's case ) we get insults thrown at us.

Unfuckinbeleivable! Well it's pretty twisted too! Nonetheless, don't think I haven't seen others here instigating trouble aswell and guess what! It's most likeley cuz they wanna get on the best side of a piece of ass! Ironic isn't it!?

This thread was never about Alizée for some of you just like many others that you've disrupted with your spite ffs!

Trolling. She's winning. I've learned to just laugh at her posts now, even if some people actually turn the tide and go against me, when I'm the one who objects to her trolling ways, and QUITE FRANKLY, pretty insulting. It's easy to insinuate things on the internet. Haha, gotta' love it, though! She is pretty good at pissing people off, I'll give her that. I'm done losing, though. Now... I start winning! This is the last time I acknowledge Euphoria.

WINNING.

Plaz
09-10-2011, 05:56 PM
I'd smang it if the opportunity arose

Euphoria
09-10-2011, 05:59 PM
So you are telling me if I went up to you (you do not know me) an said ... Hey Euphoria .... what kinda ice coffee is that ..... ohh yea I like that kind too its very good ..... Oh hi Im mike by the way how is everything going today? (listen and talk to you about your day) Oh by the way I just love your dress, you really look pretty.... that you wouldn't at least have a smile on and start talking to me?
Pretty sure I already said that a random compliment is nice, but a thread like this is so unnecessary considering there's others just like it. It's great you think she's attractive, but saying you can't date other girls because they don't compare to Alizee is just...so pathetic and inappropriate. It makes me think a lot of male Alizee fans have an unrealistic view of her. You can't tell me the stuff you see on here is actually appropriate.

I went to go get coffee a few days ago and this guy stopped me in the street.
"Can I go with you?"
"I'm just getting coffee"
"want a ride?"
"No thanks, I like exercise"
"Why? You don't need it"
"I like the fresh air"
"You got a boyfriend?"
"Yeah, I do...bye"
"I won't tell him!"

Honestly, it ruined my morning. So many guys think they're charming when they're not.

User22
09-10-2011, 06:13 PM
Guys, just follow this golden rule...

http://javaura.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/troll-web.jpg

Future Raptor Ace
09-10-2011, 06:13 PM
Pretty sure I already said that a random compliment is nice, but a thread like this is so unnecessary considering there's others just like it. It's great you think she's attractive, but saying you can't date other girls because they don't compare to Alizee is just...so pathetic and inappropriate. It makes me think a lot of male Alizee fans have an unrealistic view of her. You can't tell me the stuff you see on here is actually appropriate.

I went to go get coffee a few days ago and this guy stopped me in the street.
"Can I go with you?"
"I'm just getting coffee"
"want a ride?"
"No thanks, I like exercise"
"Why? You don't need it"
"I like the fresh air"
"You got a boyfriend?"
"Yeah, I do...bye"
"I won't tell him!"

Honestly, it ruined my morning. So many guys think they're charming when they're not.
Im sorry that ruined your day but why would you let yourself get upset over something like that ... its not worth your time. That "I wont tell him" line was not something he should of said but still you should look at him wanting to get to know you as a complement to yourself. No need to get upset about it.

Azhiri
09-10-2011, 07:09 PM
Euphoria isn't trolling. Disagreeing with you =/= trolling. If anything she's trying to help you guys out, in her own way.

Im sorry that ruined your day but why would you let yourself get upset over something like that ... its not worth your time. That "I wont tell him" line was not something he should of said but still you should look at him wanting to get to know you as a complement to yourself. No need to get upset about it.

I doubt he wanted to "get to know" her, if you know what I mean. Haha, I would have been irritated too.. nice subtlety, guy.

SaintÀlizee
09-10-2011, 07:51 PM
Euphoria isn't trolling. Disagreeing with you =/= trolling. If anything she's trying to help you guys out, in her own way.



I doubt he wanted to "get to know" her, if you know what I mean. Haha, I would have been irritated too.. nice subtlety, guy.

Which is why I question if such conversation ever took place, because of it not being subtle at all. That's diving right in. Who would honestly ask a girl out, then when she says she has a boyfriend, say "I won't tell." What person does that? That's like, a 1 to 100 ratio of meeting a jerk like that. And then she goes on to say "Men sometimes think they're charming, but they're not" as if most men act like this, when most men don't act like this at all. Only a fool does something like that. You sure this was a coffee shop, or a bar?

and, lol, Azhiri, you can't see the obvious trolling? Read other threads, she goes out of her way to "disagree" with people. She knows men on here are going to gloat about Alizee's looks, and that's where she strikes gold. She pulls the "creep card" out, and then all hell breaks loose. I've seen her do it too many times to count, and this is really the only time I've decided to fire back, because everyone else wants to avoid confrontation with her. F that. She's a cancer on here. Alizee has been called sexy, cute, any and everything else in the book in regards to being an attractive woman on here, and it only ever seems to matter when she posts, and she'll decide to take a shot any chance she gets, when something like that is inevitable on a site such as this. You know it, I know it. She. Is. A. Troll.

She gets off on doing it. There is NOTHING this GIRL can help me with.

Azhiri
09-10-2011, 08:01 PM
Which is why I question if such conversation ever took place, because of it not being subtle at all. That's diving right in. Who would honestly ask a girl out, then when she says she has a boyfriend, say "I won't tell." What person does that? That's like, a 1 to 100 ratio of meeting a jerk like that. And then she goes on to say "Men sometimes think they're charming, but they're not" as if most men act like this, when most men don't act like this at all. Only a fool does something like that. You sure this was a coffee shop, or a bar?

You'd be surprised.

and, lol, Azhiri, you can't see the obvious trolling? Read other threads, she goes out of her way to "disagree" with people. She knows men on here are going to gloat about Alizee's looks, and that's where she strikes gold. She pulls the "creep card" out, and then all hell breaks loose. I've seen her do it too many times to count, and this is really the only time I've decided to fire back, because everyone else wants to avoid confrontation with her. F that. She's a cancer on here. Alizee has been called sexy, cute, any and everything else in the book in regards to being an attractive woman on here, and it only ever seems to matter when she posts, and she'll decide to take a shot any chance she gets, when something like that is inevitable on a site such as this. You know it, I know it. She. Is. A. Troll.

She gets off on doing it. There is NOTHING this GIRL can help me with.

She could be trolling, and she could be genuine. Either way, I agree with what she says about the way men make us feel sometimes and I don't think it's fair that you guys keep contradicting her about that when it's not something you have to deal with. You can express your opinions just like she can express hers, but continuously telling her "No, you're wrong, you don't know what you're talking about" just makes everyone involved look insensitive and ignorant.

This is probably a contributing factor to why we don't have many female members. Please, you guys, don't behave that way. If I were a complete stranger and I were considering joining this forum, I would NOT feel welcome, especially after seeing this thread.

Euphoria
09-10-2011, 08:13 PM
Which is why I question if such conversation ever took place, because of it not being subtle at all. That's diving right in. Who would honestly ask a girl out, then when she says she has a boyfriend, say "I won't tell." What person does that? That's like, a 1 to 100 ratio of meeting a jerk like that. And then she goes on to say "Men sometimes think they're charming, but they're not" as if most men act like this, when most men don't act like this at all. Only a fool does something like that. You sure this was a coffee shop, or a bar?

and, lol, Azhiri, you can't see the obvious trolling? Read other threads, she goes out of her way to "disagree" with people. She knows men on here are going to gloat about Alizee's looks, and that's where she strikes gold. She pulls the "creep card" out, and then all hell breaks loose. I've seen her do it too many times to count, and this is really the only time I've decided to fire back, because everyone else wants to avoid confrontation with her. F that. She's a cancer on here. Alizee has been called sexy, cute, any and everything else in the book in regards to being an attractive woman on here, and it only ever seems to matter when she posts, and she'll decide to take a shot any chance she gets, when something like that is inevitable on a site such as this. You know it, I know it. She. Is. A. Troll.

She gets off on doing it. There is NOTHING this GIRL can help me with.
I was on the way to the coffee shop, he was walking the opposite way down the street and he approached me.

I'm not trolling, you guys are constantly making inappropriate and plain pathetic remarks. Get a diary or something, no one wants to hear about your secret Alizee fantasies.

HelixSix
09-10-2011, 08:16 PM
I said it before. When these guys don't like what they hear they will create their own truth and dismiss everything else. The things they accuse others of they are directly doing themselves.

They are the type who work at womens magazines publishing the fashion trends they choose and selling advice and tips to women that they write. Big ego's and stupidity reign supreme.

SaintÀlizee
09-10-2011, 08:21 PM
Get a diary or something, no one wants to hear about your secret Alizee fantasies.

INEVITABLE. If it's not Wasabi saying this, it's someone else. You will have that with this site. Not saying it's the best, because, sure, it could be "annoying" (as if you can't seek out other parts of the forum you would rather enjoy, you decide to stay on ones you don't <--- i.e why I think you're a troll.) But it's going to happend, and Alizee, I'm sure, could be wrong here, won't care about one idividual.

Un-rêve
09-10-2011, 08:43 PM
Trolling. She's winning. I've learned to just laugh at her posts now

Thanks for the tip. ;)

I said it before. When these guys don't like what they hear they will create their own truth and dismiss everything else. The things they accuse others of they are directly doing themselves.



Well if you can't beat them join them!

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:D

Euphoria
09-10-2011, 08:49 PM
Anyone who calls someone a troll for having a different opinion spends way too much time on 4chan.

User22
09-10-2011, 09:05 PM
Expert trolls make it look like they're not trolling and can deceive the masses...

Junkmale
09-10-2011, 09:23 PM
Oh FFS let it go...there are far more important things in life to worry about than this bollocks....
Lock...about 3 pages ago.....

Azhiri
09-10-2011, 09:29 PM
Yeah. Sorry guys, I don't like locking threads but I should have done this a long time ago. I'm a little disappointed in some of you (and myself). All I can say is to keep an open mind and have some respect and empathy, please. We're all adults and should act as such.

If there's anything you'd like to say, complain about, or ask, please do so through PM.