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Uroboros
02-16-2012, 01:07 PM
I was on facebook when PSYCHEALIZÉE posted this:
http://www.voici.fr/news-people/actu-people/m.-pokora-et-alizee-amoureux-440581
"INFO VOICI – La générosité leur aura permis de trouver l’amour : les deux jeunes chanteurs français ont craqué l’un pour l’autre aux répétitions du show des Restos du Cœur."

Is this real? Someone please translate the website post for us! :confused:

Merci Alizée
02-16-2012, 01:09 PM
What the heck is this? :blink:

Uroboros
02-16-2012, 01:13 PM
I'm just as confused as you, MA! :)(:

Edit:

http://alizeeluis.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/423472_298981866830494_146079195454096_849038_1717 024739_n.jpg?w=549&h=362

Best facial expression ever... :wub:

Isn't he this guy?

Merci Alizée
02-16-2012, 01:15 PM
lol, it seems that after long time Voice has decided to target her.

Uroboros
02-16-2012, 01:17 PM
Am I missing something or that's fake?

Karin
02-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Im not confused, if its true...

Merci Alizée
02-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Am I missing something or that's fake?

I don't know, but I guess voici should be last source to trust such rumors.

Karin
02-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Im not confused, if its true...

Merci Alizée
02-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Am I missing something or that's fake?

I don't know, but I guess voici should be last source to trust such rumors.

Tchaikovsky
02-16-2012, 01:25 PM
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BrianO1
02-16-2012, 01:34 PM
Just keep in mind that its a tabloid, and they make stuff up. If I remember right, this is the same magazine that Lili sued a while back. So maybe this is to get back at her. The photo of her and that guy, is from a charity event, that Lili tweeted about a few days back.


I wonder if Lili will tweet about this.

Criss_pl
02-16-2012, 02:17 PM
My first thought was like WTF?, when AlizéeFrance posted on Facebook. Then, I read whole article and strongly wondered whether my french still works, or am I missing something important? And next thing was Voici, ah I remember that name, it's that stupid magazine.

WhiteFeather
02-16-2012, 02:20 PM
Bah, humbug. I'm not going to believe any of this crap unless Alizée herself confirms it. Life's much easier when you don't worry about stuff like this.

I believe it's fake for three reasons though. First as it has been stated, this particular magazine isn't on the best terms with her. <strike>Secondly, they have no picture evidence. Only old pictures of her and him.</strike> And third, they will "tell all" in the next issue. It's probably a ploy to sell more magazines.

Rev
02-16-2012, 02:35 PM
Assuming I'm thinking of the correct person, it was very obvious that something was going on. Look through the videos for LE and watch the interaction between the two of them.

I do not know if they struck up a strong friendship or if it is something more. However it would not surprise me if there's a real relationship occurring there.

Some of the dynamics between the two of them just struck me as more than a friendship. Look at the one video where Jennifer is between the two of them and watch the dynamics. :)

Karin
02-16-2012, 02:36 PM
It was very obvious that something was going on. Look through the videos for LE and watch the interaction between the two of them.

I do not know if they struck up a strong friendship or if it is something more. However it would not surprise me if there's a real relationship occurring there.

Some of the dynamics between the two of them just struck me as more than a friendship. Look at the one video where Jennifer as between the two of them and watch the dynamics. :)

yay! someone with same opinion!

Deepwaters
02-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Assuming I'm thinking of the correct person, it was very obvious that something was going on. Look through the videos for LE and watch the interaction between the two of them.

I do not know if they struck up a strong friendship or if it is something more. However it would not surprise me if there's a real relationship occurring there.

Some of the dynamics between the two of them just struck me as more than a friendship. Look at the one video where Jennifer is between the two of them and watch the dynamics. :)

Bear in mind that:

1) Anything that you can notice, so can a certain other person; and

2) Alizée is very friendly and bonds with people easily, particularly people she makes music with.

I could be wrong, and she certainly hasn't told me anything one way or the other, but I would be VERY surprised if she was having an affair with him. If she were to have an affair, SURELY she would be smart enough to choose someone she will not be seen in public with.

EDIT: Unless, of course, she and Jérémy have become polyamorous, and that, in all honesty, would surprise me even more. ;)

Bigdan
02-16-2012, 03:37 PM
In fact, there is a lot of buzz around this on Psychalizee...
They find a lot of strange facts about it.
Why is so often in Corsica...( and not in her Paris House)
Why did Jeremy take vacation on some islands with is family without Alizee....
Why is she with Matt Pokora in the Wedding scene at the Enfoires...
Why is she with him in Monaco too...
Why does they share her hat on some photos...
Why Alizee write for the Valentine's Day : " for all , with or without partner..."
and so on...

:13:

a lot of confusion, right now.

Finnishguy
02-16-2012, 03:42 PM
In fact, there is a lot of buzz around this on Psychalizee...
They find a lot of strange facts about it.
Why is so often in Corsica...( and not in her Paris House)
Why did Jeremy take vacation on some islands with is family without Alizee....
Why is she with Matt Pokora in the Wedding scene at the Enfoires...
Why is she with him in Monaco too...
Why does they share her hat on some photos...
Why Alizee write for the Valentine's Day : " for all , with or without partner..."
and so on...

This last thing...hmm..
Well, it's family. And life with family is just little different than with boyfriend only, you know. We can start to pick up things like these, and we would find really lot of them between 2003-2011, sooo...

Must say that if it's true, it makes me really bad...

Ofc, Voici overstates everything often, but still.
Nothing makes confused, but how to believe that. More facts...


We all remember what Alizée said in Mexico some months ago about Jérémy. I hope those words are still valid...

Rev
02-16-2012, 03:45 PM
...I would be VERY surprised if she was having an affair with him. If she were to have an affair, SURELY she would be smart enough to choose someone she will not be seen in public with....



I do not believe that Alizee would have an affair.

IF this is true it would signal an effective end to her current relationship.

Karin
02-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Well, it's family. And life with family is just little different than with boyfriend only, you know. We can start to pick up things like these, and we would find really lot of them between 2003-2011, sooo...

yea, but Im realist... and in this world is today everything normal... more and more is marriage not important, cause in may % it will end soon or later (so its by us).

Dont want to open this theme, but... still Las Vegas marriage must be confirmed in other countries, in France too... and nobody knows if this happened... if not, she can do what she wants...

but still, rumor or not... Im not confused

Karin
02-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Well, it's family. And life with family is just little different than with boyfriend only, you know. We can start to pick up things like these, and we would find really lot of them between 2003-2011, sooo...

yea, but Im realist... and in this world is today everything normal... more and more is marriage not important, cause in may % it will end soon or later (so its by us).

Dont want to open this theme, but... still Las Vegas marriage must be confirmed in other countries, in France too... and nobody knows if this happened... if not, she can do what she wants...

but still, rumor or not... Im not confused

Finnishguy
02-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Yea, and it would do something for Annily too. And, we can't know how things are by Jérémy.

If that is true, Alizée have to be happy, but there's people who can't be actually.


I don't believe there's going anything..

Karin
02-16-2012, 04:02 PM
Alizée & M. Pokora tomorrow on the cover of "Closer"

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419055_10150665084276031_283809556030_11385586_149 1474044_n.jpg

Yea, and it would do something for Annily too. And, we can't know how things are by Jérémy.

If that is true, Alizée have to be happy, but there's people who can't be actually.


I don't believe there's going anything..

dont live in fairytale... this is the life... and this and other similar things happened to many stars

BrianO1
02-16-2012, 04:13 PM
Well, it would explain a lot of whats gone on recently. Time will tell.

Karin
02-16-2012, 04:19 PM
Well, it would explain a lot of whats gone on recently. Time will tell.

yea...

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403191_10150665132441031_283809556030_11385838_163 5957230_n.jpg

User22
02-16-2012, 04:19 PM
This would explain her sudden outburst in Tatooage...then again, I'm going to sit back and see this play out. Hopefully she was only playing the role of "groupie".

I hope she addresses it on Twitter soon :(

WhiteFeather
02-16-2012, 04:22 PM
This would explain her sudden outburst in Tatooage...

What outburst?

lefty12357
02-16-2012, 04:25 PM
Yeah, there has been some circumstantial evidence accumulating over the last few months to support the idea that Jérémy and Alizée have split up. I have been taking a "wait and see" attitude towards it, rather than speculating about it publicly. One can misread such things from afar. I just hope that if it is true, their split was not too traumatic for either party, or for Annily.

Jake04
02-16-2012, 04:26 PM
First, I hope it's either just a rumor or a publicity stunt. From what I've read so far, Voici is a tabloid site/magazine.

Second, I'm kind of nervous because we don't know what's really going on between Alizee and Jeremy. And, I must admit: if there is a guy who Alizee could fall for - it'll be THIS GUY! :mad: He's better-looking than Jeremy; a fellow singer (more popular and successful than JC); and share her love of tattoos. Matt Pokora is a BETTER version of Jeremy! :eek:

According to Wiki: "MP i's a gay icon but denied being gay. He's dating Sofia Boutella (French dancer) for three years."

Finally, let's just hope this is not true. And even if it turns out to be true, let's not judge her without knowing the facts!

Finnishguy
02-16-2012, 04:27 PM
Jaja, still I wanna believe that words she said in, hmm, Hechos probably, are valid.

Didn't she say that she's Jérémy's and will be too? :D

ALS
02-16-2012, 04:28 PM
Don't these stories always seem to come out a few months before her Cd hits the market? I remember a story like this popped up in 2007 and Alizée joked in a tweet if she was fooling around she would do it with Julian Dorn.

With her body language either it's someones fantasy (Probably) or she has already found someone and is truly in love (Doubt). I surely didn't see any thing but a happy Alizée during Les Enfoires. If she is having problems in her marriage, she is one hell of an actress. I'm sorry but after being together almost nine years next month there have to be strong feelings between them and if they are splitting up there would be signs.

As far as going down to see her family its an hour and half ride and around 320€ round trip. We all know she heads down to Ajaccio at least once a month to see her family. Also isn't the dance school she is using to get ready for Les Enfoires and her new Cd in Ajaccio?

If there is a problem we'll find out soon enough.

Karin
02-16-2012, 04:29 PM
Jaja, still I wanna believe that words she said in, hmm, Hechos probably, are valid.

Didn't she say that she's Jérémy's and will be too? :D

time is relative... and everything can be changed in second

BrianO1
02-16-2012, 04:34 PM
Well as a few have said, time will tell I guess.

Im sure she will say something on Twitter soon if it is false. I'm sure many are asking in there.

Finnishguy
02-16-2012, 04:34 PM
Yea, I know.

Just, lets Lilly loves people that she wants.., it's the only thing I hope. Nothing bad ofc..

Finnishguy
02-16-2012, 04:39 PM
Does this say something?

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8215/40319110150665132441031.jpg

Karin
02-16-2012, 04:55 PM
hmmm

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425593_10150665208761031_283809556030_11386069_158 4051975_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420739_10150665209166031_283809556030_11386071_193 9401010_n.jpg

Un-rêve
02-16-2012, 04:55 PM
Assuming I'm thinking of the correct person, it was very obvious that something was going on. Look through the videos for LE and watch the interaction between the two of them.

I do not know if they struck up a strong friendship or if it is something more. However it would not surprise me if there's a real relationship occurring there.

Some of the dynamics between the two of them just struck me as more than a friendship. Look at the one video where Jennifer is between the two of them and watch the dynamics. :)

I was more concerned about JB groping her that I must've missed those dynamics!

Well photo's like this don't help either when gossip magazine's wanna sell more copies.

More than friends you said.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407327_228950343865449_172534626173688_451876_1986 971041_n.jpg



Edit: Oh well looks like the cats out the bag.. thanks to Karin. ;)

Jake04
02-16-2012, 05:02 PM
What about this? MP with Priscilla. Taken last week.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7816/alugqxvcqaaqcc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/alugqxvcqaaqcc5.jpg/)

User22
02-16-2012, 05:07 PM
MelleAlizée:
I wish you a good night followers <3 thank you for being here <3 love <3

Edit:

This is looking more and more true as the pictures release. There is a picture of them on his iPhone. Dats pretty concrete evidence right thar...

Karin
02-16-2012, 05:08 PM
MelleAlizée:
I wish you a good night followers <3 thank you for being here <3 love <3

last days I have feelings something its not good... she is not so much active, in Ajaccio with family, and this tweet sound like she is sad (and some others too)...

ALS
02-16-2012, 05:14 PM
Another shot of her left hand with NO wedding ring.

http://alizeeluis.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/423472_298981866830494_146079195454096_849038_1717 024739_n.jpg?w=549&h=362

When there is smoke there is usually fire. I looked through several pictures and I didn't see her wearing her ring during Les Enfoires. In earlier Les Enfoires she does have her wedding ring on.

Un-rêve
02-16-2012, 05:18 PM
What about this? MP with Priscilla. Taken last week.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7816/alugqxvcqaaqcc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/alugqxvcqaaqcc5.jpg/)

They look good together!


If Alizée and this guy are an item though you know it won't last! I mean after being in a 9 year relationship with someone and all.. this is just a rebound thing.

I hope all these rumours are false!

Karin
02-16-2012, 05:22 PM
more and more I think its not fake...

User22
02-16-2012, 05:23 PM
more and more I think its not fake...

I'm afraid I'm in the same boat...

Karin
02-16-2012, 05:26 PM
I'm afraid I'm in the same boat...

sooo... again

- no ring last days
- if we cut LE, some days in Paris and other small trips... she is 3months in Ajaccio
- not so much active on twitter
- last tweet sounds very sad + tweet after LE about depression
- and other...
- if that with Matt its fake, still I have feeling there is not all ok

Un-rêve
02-16-2012, 05:35 PM
Just for the record I thought Alizée and Jeremy were good together! If any of this is actually true and Alizée is with this guy, that would be a real shame! :(

BrianO1
02-16-2012, 05:35 PM
There was the divorce rumor a year or so ago. Maybe things have been tough for them for a while now. And a few months ago was officially the end.


But whatever the truth is, I just hope she is happy, and ok.

WhiteFeather
02-16-2012, 05:37 PM
When I first read this, I was a little shaken by this. But after thinking about it for a little bit, it shouldn't and doesn't bother me anymore. Countless other celebrities break up and get remarried (and break up and remarry, etc.) so how is it any different with her? She isn't perfect, and honestly I don't care.

If it's true, it's true. If not, it's not. It doesn't affect my life in any way.

SpanishFan
02-16-2012, 05:39 PM
Sometimes, when a relationship between celebrities ends, there is a short press statement. Something like: "Mr xxx an Miss xxx had decided to put and end to their relationship, they both keep in friendly terms, wish each other well, etc, etc..."
In doing that they would lose intimacy to the press, yes, but in the other hand that would stop rumours and speculations, and if she would date someone else, it would not be as shocking as it feels now...
It surprises me that, if this new relationship is true, they pose together so openly in public places, in front of the press, and even on twitter.
I don´t know. It look very obvious, but it seems too public... :confused:

melovelily
02-16-2012, 05:43 PM
The one who we should be worried about is their little daughter
And gotta love how nothing is happening we call jeremy a lucky basterd (which is true) and that we want alizee for ourselfs but when a rumor is out we defend him lol

Alex
02-16-2012, 06:03 PM
Like most fellow AAm members, I also have noticed a certain chemistry with Alizee and Pokora. In early photos in Les Enfoires we immediately saw that chemistry between both of them, in rehearsals, the show and as well in the photos uploaded in Twitter. The current "evidence" we have began to discuss is very strong and can be taken as valid. It really doesn't matter to me if she has chosen to move on in her relationship life, but I would be somewhat disappointed if this is indeed true, because everything she has said on interviews about the importance of family, being a dedicated mother and wife, being different as other artists with their scandals was one of the main reasons I really admired of her as an artist. She was able to have a clean career, have a certain contact with her fans and still keep a stable private family life as she stated many times in her interviews.

But as many of you have said, time will tell, and like always I wish the best for her.

BrianO1
02-16-2012, 06:14 PM
One thing to keep in mind, IF all of this is true, it doesnt mean Lili or her values are different then what she has said over these many years.

It just means that not even Lili is immune to the pains and hardships that life has to offer. :(

But again, all we can do is wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if Lili tweets something about this soon, true or false.

User22
02-16-2012, 06:22 PM
One thing to keep in mind, IF all of this is true, it doesnt mean Lili or her values are different then what she has said over these many years.

It just means that not even Lili is immune to the pains and hardships that life has to offer. :(

But again, all we can do is wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if Lili tweets something about this soon, true or false.

Best response to this ordeal yet.

Bigdan
02-16-2012, 06:49 PM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/Matt-Alizee.jpg

Voici seems very sure of the news...

User22
02-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Is it just me, or does this day feel very weird...this almost seems unreal.

Bigdan
02-16-2012, 07:22 PM
Is it just me, or does this day feel very weird...this almost seems unreal.

yes, it does the same to me...

lefty12357
02-16-2012, 07:38 PM
Is it just me, or does this day feel very weird...this almost seems unreal.

Me too. I felt a bit weird when those Alizée and Matt pictures from Monaco first appeared. In a way, maybe she has been hinting to us all along, so she wouldn't have to come out and just say it. But I admit my suspicions go back to her long stay in Ajaccio and Annily either having to miss school or transfer to a new school.

I kind of always liked Jérémy. I'm not so sure about Matt. Of course it's not my business. But there is a certain comfort to fans that Alizée's life seemed very stable. It's easy to wonder how such a change may affect her, her music and her relationship with her fans.

User22
02-16-2012, 07:43 PM
Had someone come on here 3 months ago and told us that Alizee and Jeremy would no longer be together and Alizee would be dating another guy this week in this month, I would have laughed and told them they're crazy, and that Alizee would never leave Jeremy's side...

But it seems everything has taken a 180* turn...man, I can't comprehend this.

Tomorrow I am going to wake up...and realize that Alizee is with a different man. Craziness...

Edit:

Me too. I felt a bit weird when those Alizée and Matt pictures from Monaco first appeared. In a way, maybe she has been hinting to us all along, so she wouldn't have to come out and just say it. But I admit my suspicions go back to her long stay in Ajaccio and Annily either having to miss school or transfer to a new school.

I kind of always liked Jérémy. I'm not so sure about Matt. Of course it's not my business. But there is a certain comfort to fans that Alizée's life seemed very stable. It's easy to wonder how such a change may affect her, her music and her relationship with her fans.

One thing is for sure, she successfully got into a tabloid for the first time in a long time...whether it is good or bad, she just got some major publicity. Could help out her new album.

Crap, will her new album be an Adele-type album? Where its about break-ups and stuff? That would be very depressing.

Bigdan
02-16-2012, 07:55 PM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/Enfoires-8.jpg

Suddenly, this pic take new meaning...

User22
02-16-2012, 08:23 PM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/Enfoires-8.jpg

Suddenly, this pic take new meaning...

Today is getting weirder and weirder. I can't even explain my thoughts. I'm simply in utter disbelief and am unable to accept it for the moment...

Deepwaters
02-16-2012, 08:29 PM
I honestly think all of you need to chill. No offense intended, but come on, it's her life, and anyway you're jumping to conclusions based on a few photos and an article in a tabloid that's lied about her before.

The idea of Her Grace and the J-man as some kind of fairy-tale couple with happily ever afters was always a little bit silly IMO, as people change and there is no relationship that's immune to that. One thing that changed was that she went back to performing, which she wasn't doing in the first four years of their marriage. I had a feeling something went strained in 2008 between the two of them, but they appeared to weather it by separating professionally and staying together as a couple, so that's what I assumed they did. If they did split up over the tensions of her resuming her career, well, she concealed it EXTREMELY well!

As for this fellow, they were seen together in Monaco and really that's just about it. That could mean anything or nothing; they could have run into each other just both of them visiting at the same time, and of course they know each other. And nothing on stage should be taken as indicative of anything. There's no sign he was with her in Ajaccio recently, or anywhere else except Monaco and on stage.

Bottom line is it's not impossible, but we don't really have a good reason to believe it at this point either. Let's just wait and see if she announces anything. And whether she does or not, just enjoy the new album when it comes out and don't sweat her personal life; that's something she needs to deal with in private, without kibbitzing by fans.

BrianO1
02-16-2012, 08:33 PM
Great post Deep. At this point, we have seen the pictures, read the articles, heard the speculations. All we can do, is wait and see. Im sure she will have something to say about this on Twitter.

Future Raptor Ace
02-16-2012, 09:27 PM
I have 3 things to say and then im done with this!
1. She is only human, things unfortunately happen!
2. This story has a 50 50 chance of being true with maybe more of a chance of not being true, one thing that one has to ask is has Alizee really been intimate with Jeremy recently? That is a yes an no answer because there are some pics out there that do contradict this but they are in fact rare.
3. If they were having an affair it would be a lot more secretive and less obvious, you probably wouldn't even know about nor see it on a stage for that matter; that is just plane stupidity! The two are both involved in current serious relationships with other people and I think information would have likely leaked by now with at least one of the two splits. I would think Alizee would like this sort of publicity; she has been out of the spotlight for a long time and this could really be free marketing for a new album. It is negative sure, but it is something for lets face it, "a starving artist." If I was Alizee I would let this role for a while.
Boom I am done until more intell surfaces!

HelixSix
02-16-2012, 09:45 PM
She isn't obligated to let us know about anything, especially when the firestorm is going on. Tracking Jeremy and the other dude will probably be just as informative while everyone is trying to put together the clues.

I can't defend Alizée or Jeremy at this point if the tabloids are correct because it is not likely to be a simple issue. However I will say that if Jeremy became jealous I would totally understand why, especially by now with all the reporters pointing out things like cell phone backgrounds.

I don't know how much time she spends practicing with this guy but so many relationships start in that environment. We just don't know. Jeremy might have been treating her like crap so she needed somebody or she was reckless and Jeremy is the victim, who knows. My guess is that their relationship has been shaky for awhile and even if this is all false it's impact is enough or an excuse to break it.

Toc De Mac
02-16-2012, 11:55 PM
This would explain her sudden outburst in Tatooage...

Just based off the title of this thread, that was one of the first things that came to mind, having seen how tattooed Pokora is.

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 12:03 AM
Remember a few years back when the mags reported that Alizée and Jérémy had split, she responded rather quickly to set the record straight. I wonder if she will do it this time around. Maybe we'll hear something tomorrow, or maybe not. :)

Rev
02-17-2012, 12:06 AM
Remember a few years back when the mags reported that Alizée and Jérémy had split, she responded rather quickly to set the record straight. I wonder if she will do it this time around. Maybe we'll hear something tomorrow, or maybe not. :)


She will comment quickly if it is totally false. If it is true, or partly true ...

Merci Alizée
02-17-2012, 12:07 AM
Remember a few years back when the mags reported that Alizée and Jérémy had split, she responded rather quickly to set the record straight. I wonder if she will do it this time around. Maybe we'll hear something tomorrow, or maybe not. :)

If this is false then she may make everything clear, but then again it's not her duty to clear confusions about her personal life to others.

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 12:14 AM
Well if its all untrue, I wouldn't be surprised if she made a funny joke about it all, like she did before. :)

Scruffydog777
02-17-2012, 01:38 AM
Well if it was just a bunch of rumors circulating around the internet, Alizee would have no obligation to respond about them at all, but now that a magazine has published something about it, even if it's some low life rag who tries to make money by blowing things way out of proportion, it brings the rumors to a whole new level.

I think it forces her hand to respond, for the sake of Annily, because I'm sure her daughter will be hearing about these rumors too, and probably hearing it from other kids, even at that young an age, and we know how cruel kids can be and the best way to stop that, is to either squash or confirm them.

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 01:51 AM
Well she is on Twitter as we speak, I'm guessing she is reading the articles as well. I'm sure someone pointed them out to her. So maybe she will clear things up for us, like she did in the past.

Taxi Driver Aaron
02-17-2012, 02:39 AM
I am not going to partake in any of the speculation in these posts... The more the mods allow this thread to carry on, the more you all add to the already difficult rumors that Alizée has to sift through as it is.... not to mention the ridicule of her love life that is allowed to go on in this thread...

I can't talk about her butt and chest, but it's okay for you guys to spread tabloid rumors? ... that's messed up! ...

By the way, hard evidence, is when Alizée or Jeremy are the source of information... not a magazine, not a photograph, not a performance, and certainly not a web site!....

I am not going to say "well if it's true..." or "I hope for... blah blah blah" or otherwise voice an opinion about the topic of discussion here because, as far as I am concerned, we are all f'ing up our reputation as loyal fans of Alizée by giving it attention...

I understand it's enticing gossip... but we all took the bait and I feel sorry for us... because it's f'ed up! ... I mean... whether the rumors are true or false is irrelevant... put yourself in her shoes! seriously... do you need to be dealing with the rumors? Either way, it puts Alizée in a sh***y situation..

so again, I ask... why even give this crap attention?... close the thread leave it alone... as far as I am concerned this topic is more taboo than most of my posts that have been getting deleted (even though I agree with the censorship of some of my posts... I know how I can be)....

As fans, we should be more interested in Alizée's next steps in her career and the performances she put on for us at Les Enfoirés... I understand some of us may have concerns for how she is doing emotionally and in her private life... but again... it is not our place to speculate, much less brainstorm rumors in a so-called fan forum environment...

As a matter of fact, let's start another brainstorming topic... if you were a famous musician would you want people discussing this (whether it were true or not, it's irrelevant) or would you want them discussing your performances?... How would you like it if I started up a fan forum where everybody posted pictures of what you did all day and speculated changes in your love-life? ... it would suck wouldn't it? ... and the sad thing is, you're not even a celebrity, and it still sucks!... imagine what Alizée is going through! It's bad enough that everyone she hugs and sings with automatically becomes a special interest... but to allow a fan forum to feed into it is wrong.

No offense to the thread starter or to anyone who has participated in this thread... but this thread should not even have begun.. it is too early in the news.... I suggest closing it until Alizée publicly addresses the concern, and that is if she chooses to do so.

Finnishguy
02-17-2012, 03:21 AM
TDA, I can't agree with you.

I'm not talking about loyal fans, just real fans. I think we all are interested about everything related her, and ofc we talks here on forum about love-life too. As lot as here is members, as many opinions here is. I think we can talks about everything here.

Just compare, if you'd be A, wouldn't it suck if people talks about tattoos, and everything, even things that you would wanna keep hidden. You can't say you don't talks anything about them.

Just, let this discussion go on and we will see if it's really bad or not. I know it's just good to talks, at least for some members. People here wanna know how opinions are, and if we wouldn't talks about them there's lot of fans out of any info, for example. But yea, we just need to talks about things that we are interested. You know we have nothing against A, and if someone have something, he can say it somewhere, but this forum is made for talks about everything related A. Isn't it?

Uroboros
02-17-2012, 05:35 AM
IF these rumors are true, when was it that she broke up with Jeremy? I don't remember reading anything about it :13:

Karin
02-17-2012, 06:17 AM
IF these rumors are true, when was it that she broke up with Jeremy? I don't remember reading anything about it :13:

if... then I think between Christmas na LE... or oneday last year

Jenny_HRO87
02-17-2012, 06:40 AM
I don't say I believe all this but I was always wondering why she was so often in Corsica the last months and so less in Paris I mean normal wifes spend a bit more time with their husbands... and that she sometimes seems to have forgotten to put on her wedding ring... (for example during the Enfoirés concerts in 2011) wasn't really a good sign but every marriage can be in trouble sometimes and later she put it on again... well in the photos from Monaco she doesn't have one if I can believe my eyes.

Well I don't want to believe anything until Alizée confirms it (and I guess she will say something about it soon - or at last she has too - when it's everywhere in the press right now)... and if it's true I don't really think she cheated on Jérémy with Matt Pokora, I'd assume (if she split up with Jérémy) they already seperated a while ago.... maybe - ok this sounds maybe a little bit weird but - around the time when she re-activated her Twitter. It was a bit like a new beginning. At least it was around the time when she started to be in Corsica more often then in Paris (or maybe she was there before but simply didn't told us). So they may be separated for couple of months. Well IF they are. In what way they may split up is Alizée's secret.

Shit happens. Feelings can change. It doesn't make Alizée a worse person. She's a human being after all. It could be worse. Sometimes it's better to split up than staying together. Perhaps it's not true at all, perhaps it is. The Voici is full of rumours but some of the photos from the airport are a little bit suspicious. The body language. Also that Matt has a photo of both of them at his mobile background.

If it's true I'm sorry for all of them.... Alizée, Jérémy, Annily. Their families. Especially for her daughter. A divorce is never a good thing for a child.

But as long Alizée is happy I'm happy too and she doesn't seems to be that unhappy right now... if you look at her tweets for example.

just my two cents.

It's Alizée's business. She's a grown-up. We will see.

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 08:20 AM
Jenny, I agree with everything you said. I too, think there may be some significance to when she reactivated her Twitter.
I suppose we will know something soon enough.

Karin
02-17-2012, 10:19 AM
Alizée & M. Pokora tomorrow on the cover of "Voici".

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422271_10150667018166031_283809556030_11389557_194 4012594_n.jpg

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 10:32 AM
I hope she says something very soon, whatever the truth is. The last time Voici ran a story like this about her, she quickly set the story straight and the very next issue talked about how the rumurs were false. I fear that the longer she waits, the worse it will get. :(

Karin
02-17-2012, 10:48 AM
http://www.voici.fr/var/voi/storage/images/media/multiupload-du-17-fevrier-2012/1267couvpl2/8081926-1-fre-FR/1267couvpl2.jpg

Uroboros
02-17-2012, 10:57 AM
More and more the Alizée fanpages are posting articles about it on facebook
I'm starting to belive in these rumors :nervous:

User22
02-17-2012, 11:06 AM
More and more the Alizée fanpages are posting articles about it on facebook
I'm starting to belive in these rumors :nervous:

I started to too, thats why I've decided to sit back and watch it play out. Letting the rumors get into your head is a bad thing, resist!

Remember, there is still no hard evidence of anything, just pictures which are easy to put a story to and twist.

These pictures were out long before Voici used them, and none of us once thought they were "dating". Just goes to show that rumors can actually sway people's decisions.

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 11:11 AM
Let's just wait and see.

Jenny_HRO87
02-17-2012, 11:13 AM
These pictures were out long before Voici used them, and none of us once thought they were "dating". Just goes to show that rumors can actually sway people's decisions.

well i read that some people were discussing it before the VOICI did.

But except from these few people most people didn't because why would you start to discuss things like that when you are sure that Alizée is happily married with Jérémy and all the Enfoirés are just best mates (what they are, they are like a big family) and not more?

If she would be single perhaps you would take a different look at these photos from Monaco right from the beginning...

Karin
02-17-2012, 11:18 AM
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lefty12357
02-17-2012, 11:19 AM
Actually, people have been discussing the idea of MP and Alizée "dating" for a few days now. It just wasn't being discussed here. As a matter of fact, it could be that that's how Voici picked up on it, from browsing other sites. I'm sure thay have people poking around everywhere for gossip and new stories.

And people have been wondering about her long stay in Corse for a while now. So the writing has been on the wall, it's just a matter as to whether people have read it correctly or not. Alizée can confirm it, deny it, or simply not respond to it. Until then, we know nothing for sure.

Uroboros
02-17-2012, 11:20 AM
I started to too, thats why I've decided to sit back and watch it play out. Letting the rumors get into your head is a bad thing, resist!

Remember, there is still no hard evidence of anything, just pictures which are easy to put a story to and twist.

These pictures were out long before Voici used them, and none of us once thought they were "dating". Just goes to show that rumors can actually sway people's decisions.

You're right, I'll cease my curiosity about this for now and wait until an official confirmation comes from Alizée herself :agree:

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 11:26 AM
Well she certainly isn't hiding from the cameras, as you can see in that video. She even smiles at the camera guy at the end.

SpanishFan
02-17-2012, 11:37 AM
If it's true I'm sorry for all of them.... Alizée, Jérémy, Annily. Their families. Especially for her daughter. A divorce is never a good thing for a child.


Even if everything is true, you have to consider the possibility that everybody involved in this maybe is actually "ok" with their situation at the moment.
The families... i think grown up adults know that there are a lot of things in life much worst than a divorce...
As for her daughter, i suppose that we all have our personal view in the matter... I personally don't think it would be something traumatic but i won't say anything else cause maybe it's not the right time and place to talk about that...

Karin
02-17-2012, 11:53 AM
video download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?y6ibqu6qu47riwt,
https://rapidshare.com/files/3633668053/Alizée_et_M._Pokora.mp4

...if someone want

ALS
02-17-2012, 12:38 PM
That video she looks dis-interested in him, more like friends than something else. When they're walking through the hall it was like she was keeping her distance and that may have or may not been planned move to throw fans and the media off.

Does anyone know if MP is actively helping her with the new Album?

Karin
02-17-2012, 12:40 PM
Does anyone know if MP is actively helping her with the new Album?

I think he has nothing to do with album, he has much to do on his own album

Taxi Driver Aaron
02-17-2012, 12:43 PM
...... :lurk:

Jake04
02-17-2012, 02:17 PM
That video she looks dis-interested in him, more like friends than something else. When they're walking through the hall it was like she was keeping her distance and that may have or may not been planned move to throw fans and the media off.

Does anyone know if MP is actively helping her with the new Album?

Actually, she looks very uncomfortable to me. May be because she wasn't invited there in the first place. Or may be because she knows that people still recognize her and know that she's with a man other than Jeremy. There were scenes were she was even trying to cover her face. She was also trying to keep her distance from him and just following him around. Also, the video clearly shows she's not wearing her wedding ring.

That said -assuming it's true - I still support her. We don't know what's going on between her and Jeremy. He could be mistreating her or simply taking her for granted. We all know how much she loves(loved) Jeremy. She gave up her career to raise a family. She quit at the height of her career. I'm sure people close to her told her of the consequences of that. Who knows if it was Jeremy who convinced her to ditch MF and LB - and is now paying a heavy price for that. She even have Jeremy's name in hebrew tattooed on her wrist. My point is: We know how much Alizee loves her family. She's willing to give up everything for them. So, I don't think she'd do something like this without a very good reason.

Having gone through a divorce myself, I know how it feels. I feel very bad right now. It's been years since I've gone though this. But, seeing all of these make me feel like I'm going through it myself all over again. I know how difficult it is for them - especially for her daughter. But, sometimes, no matter what you do, things just don't work out the way you wanted it to be. No matter how much you try to keep your family together, there are just some things that are beyond your control. And at the end, it's better for your child to live in "two happy homes" than living in one where she'd see her parents fight all the time.

I think the best thing that we could do for her at this point is to respect her privacy (by not asking her about this on her fb or tweeter accounts), show our continued support for her and wish her all the luck to help her go through this very difficult phase in her life. I'm just glad to see her happy during LE and to see her move on with her life.

BTW, Alizee continues to trend in Yahoo.fr. She was at #1 at one point.

Karin
02-17-2012, 03:11 PM
new article:

http://www.news-de-stars.com/m-pokora/m-pokora-et-alizee-en-couple-doit-on-y-croire_art64291.html

Karin
02-17-2012, 03:11 PM
new article:

http://www.news-de-stars.com/m-pokora/m-pokora-et-alizee-en-couple-doit-on-y-croire_art64291.html

C-4
02-17-2012, 03:39 PM
Actually, she looks very uncomfortable to me. May be because she wasn't invited there in the first place. Or may be because she knows that people still recognize her and know that she's with a man other than Jeremy. There were scenes were she was even trying to cover her face. She was also trying to keep her distance from him and just following him around. Also, the video clearly shows she's not wearing her wedding ring.

That said -assuming it's true - I still support her. We don't know what's going on between her and Jeremy. He could be mistreating her or simply taking her for granted. We all know how much she loves(loved) Jeremy. She gave up her career to raise a family. She quit at the height of her career. I'm sure people close to her told her of the consequences of that. Who knows if it was Jeremy who convinced her to ditch MF and LB - and is now paying a heavy price for that. She even have Jeremy's name in hebrew tattooed on her wrist. My point is: We know how much Alizee loves her family. She's willing to give up everything for them. So, I don't think she'd do something like this without a very good reason.

Having gone through a divorce myself, I know how it feels. I feel very bad right now. It's been years since I've gone though this. But, seeing all of these make me feel like I'm going through it myself all over again. I know how difficult it is for them - especially for her daughter. But, sometimes, no matter what you do, things just don't work out the way you wanted it to be. No matter how much you try to keep your family together, there are just some things that are beyond your control. And at the end, it's better for your child to live in "two happy homes" than living in one where she'd see her parents fight all the time.

I think the best thing that we could do for her at this point is to respect her privacy (by not asking her about this on her fb or tweeter accounts), show our continued support for her and wish her all the luck to help her go through this very difficult phase in her life. I'm just glad to see her happy during LE and to see her move on with her life.

BTW, Alizee continues to trend in Yahoo.fr. She was at #1 at one point.



Very well stated Jake04.

When I think about this and realize that no one can understand fully what Alizée, Jeremy, and Annily are going through daily both in reality and in their private thoughts, my heart goes out to them.

It is tough enough for anyone to go through a divorce, but when you are a public figure, it becomes so much more unbearable and embarassing. You cannot stop whatever is being written about you, or speculated about you .

You really have no control, yet you are placed under a mocroscope for the world to comment on as though it was their business as well, which of course it shouldn't be.

Whatever the end result of all of this becomes, I wish all concerned only the best and hope that it weighs on them as little as possible.

awkward Turtle
02-17-2012, 03:39 PM
After rewatching some of the videos, it appears she is wearing a ring for some songs.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3163/40754929095984096603014.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/40754929095984096603014.jpg/)

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/766/large8j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/large8j.jpg/)

Also, don't you think it would be strange for her to have a fake wedding with somebody she was involved with, especially if she and JC recently split?

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 03:50 PM
I've noticed the ring being both on and then off. Quite frankly I don't know what any of this "evidence" that's been compiled means, if anything. Alizée has not responded as far as I know, but she isn't hiding, either. She has been active on Twitter today.

The wedding was just part of a script for LE. I assume they were assigned to the roles by the director. I don't think it is significant. I think what people were saying is that there appeared to be some special chemistry between Alizée and MP when they were on stage together. It's a rather subjective thing.

Deepwaters
02-17-2012, 03:57 PM
I think what people were saying is that there appeared to be some special chemistry between Alizée and MP when they were on stage together.

And that is, of course, a Good Thing. It means they should do more performances together because they Work Well Together and It's Cool.

I think if she and the J-man were really split, she wouldn't ever wear the wedding ring. I know for damned sure I didn't after I got divorced! I also think it would be very difficult to conceal. So I really think this is either: 1) an affair; 2) evidence that she and Jérémy really have gone poly (and I will thereupon scan the skies for flying pigs); or 3) much ado about nothing.

My money's on number three, but who knows.

ALS
02-17-2012, 04:15 PM
It could be a bump in the road as they say and she is putting a little distance and time between them to work things out. The one issue no ones talking about is "where's Annieli". You know she didn't take her to Lyon for Les Enfoires and she didn't have her in Morocco. Can we assume she is at home with her father Jeremy?

Which brings me back to Deepwaters point in his last post,

3) much ado about nothing.

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 04:22 PM
Annily is with Alizée in Corse, I believe. I think they plan on watching a movie this evening.

WhiteFeather
02-17-2012, 04:24 PM
Everyone needs to realize that these are all rumors. Nothing has been proven yet, so for all we know there is nothing wrong between Jeremy and Alizée. And you know what happens when you assume...

Jake04
02-17-2012, 05:02 PM
After rewatching some of the videos, it appears she is wearing a ring for some songs.

From what I've read, they "fell in love to one another" during the LE. They were there together for several days, most of the times working late. So, we know they spent a lot of times together. That's more than enough time to have something developed. A lot of us fell for her the moment we saw her. :p

As far as the ring, may be she was still clinging to a slim hope of saving her marriage but then made up her mind and decided to move on after falling for MP. That's why i think in some videos, she can be seen not wearing her ring. And on that beach football in Monaco video -barely a week after LE, you can clearly see that she's not wearing her ring.

Like I said, I'm just glad to see her happy. We don't know how long she was having this problem with Jeremy. However, I was curious as to when she decided to become active again on tweeter. I know she was working on her new album. But, perhaps she knew she would soon have to provide for herself and Annily?

Edit:

Annily is with Alizée in Corse, I believe. I think they plan on watching a movie this evening.

I find it interesting what she'd tweeted - that she's watching a movie with Annily (only) with all the talks about her splitting from Jeremy, which I'm sure she's well aware of. Is this some sort of a tacit acknowledgement from her?

User22
02-17-2012, 05:37 PM
To be honest, it seems as if "wearing your ring" doesn't mean so much in the French culture as it does in other cultures. Cause she obviously has worn it on and off during LE, which I doubt they had several divorces or "rough times" during the 1-week-span of LE.

So I think we can rule out "her wearing her ring" as a deciding factor to either propel or deny this rumor.

There are some days here when I see married people not have their ring on...probably cause they forgot. Just like people forget to pick their kid up from school, they forget to put on their wedding ring in the morning to.

Edit:

I'm betting my money on the fact that the producers of LE asked the girls to take off their wedding rings for some of the performances too, to make the appearance that they are available...

Jenny_HRO87
02-17-2012, 05:43 PM
To be honest, it seems as if "wearing your ring" doesn't mean so much in the French culture as it does in other cultures.

I doubt that...

Un-rêve
02-17-2012, 05:44 PM
Alizée has been with Jeremy for almost 9 years.. thats atleast one third of her life!

I feel bad talking about this but if these rumours turn out to be true I can't be happy about it! I mean if she's with this guy I just don't think it's gonna last and that's what concerns me.

Her life did seem very stable and that was comforting to know.. well I know this whole thing really is none of my bussiness and I should stay the hell out of it but the bottom line is I care about Alizée as I'm sure we all do.


I'm done.. I dunno what to say! I just wish her a long, happy, fulfilling, healthy, succcessful life! :wub:

User22
02-17-2012, 06:08 PM
I doubt that...

Then what explains her wearing her ring some days during LE and some not?

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 06:34 PM
Some people wear their ring all the time and some take if off frequently. Some simply forget to put it back on occasionally. I think I recall other times in the past when Alizée and Jérémy were definitely together that she was occasionally seen not wearing her ring. In and of itself, it may not be significant in this case.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Alizée would have worn the ring for a while after a split with Jérémy just to avoid the questions.

Karin
02-17-2012, 06:34 PM
To be honest, it seems as if "wearing your ring" doesn't mean so much in the French culture as it does in other cultures.

Not only in french culture... by us its normal... example my parents never wore rings :)

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 06:40 PM
I know people too who never wear their rings. I know some older people who can't get their rings off because they have been on so long. My friend's wife lost 2 rings in their first year of marriage. He refuses to buy her another one. :D

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 06:48 PM
My dads ring was stolen :(


Voici has a new issue coming out tomorrow bout them.

Jenny_HRO87
02-17-2012, 07:01 PM
Then what explains her wearing her ring some days during LE and some not?

I only said that I doubt that a wedding ring is less important in french culture. I'm sure it is important to everyone who's married and ever got a ring. Maybe some people don't wear them ok. My Mum for example does, my Dad doesn't.

But Alizée wore her ring all the time. She even had two. Then suddenly she had only one. Well ok maybe she lost that one. It's possible. During the Enfoirés concerts in 2011 there was no ring at all. This year she put it on and of. I think what Lefty said could be true, that she wore it to avoid questions.

It's simply strange because she wore her wedding ring all the time and than suddenly she decides to stop doing it.

Dating an other man and not wearing her wedding ring the same time is suspicious. Just saying.

lefty12357
02-17-2012, 07:06 PM
Dating an other men and not wearing her wedding ring the same time is suspicious. Just saying.

Yes, I agree. That is what got me wondering about Alizée and MP.

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 07:11 PM
Well if they are dating, that's kinda a sign of a relationship no? ;) :p

User22
02-17-2012, 07:16 PM
World domination is preffered.

SpanishFan
02-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Personally i was not believing anything of this until they showed Alizée's photo on his mobile...

Deepwaters
02-17-2012, 07:52 PM
Personally i was not believing anything of this until they showed Alizée's photo on his mobile...

Lots of people have her photo on their mobile phones who don't even know her. It doesn't mean a damned thing, except that he has a cell phone camera.

SpanishFan
02-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Mmm... ok. I will put a picture of Adriana Lima on my mobile phone. Maybe i get to hang around with her just like MP does with Alizée...

Deepwaters
02-17-2012, 08:22 PM
Dating an other man and not wearing her wedding ring the same time is suspicious. Just saying.

But we don't know that she IS dating him! The encounter in Monaco was not necessarily a "date." Again, let's not jump to conclusions.

I'm really starting to get annoyed with Voici. It's probably not worth the bad karma to put a curse on them, but this is just disgusting. Regardless of what's happening in Alizée's relationship with Jérémy, isn't Pokora in a serious relationship with someone else, too? How is his lady going to feel seeing all this crap in the tabloids?

She didn't say anything today, which may or may not be significant. She may be deciding how to deal with it. Or whatever.

BrianO1
02-17-2012, 09:14 PM
I thought he had a girlfriend, dunno.


One thing that is a bit odd, is back in I think it was 2008, Voici ran an story saying Lili and J. Were getting a divorce, within a few hours, she came on, and used Facebook to announce the rumor was false.

In I think 2009 or so, Voici published photos of Lili, Jeremy, and their daughter. Soon after, Lili sued Voici for publishing those photos.

Now, Voici makes another rumor, and she doesn't say anything.

Obviously that doesn't prove anything, I just found it interesting that neither Lili nor Matt have said anything about this. Well at least not yet.

Future Raptor Ace
02-17-2012, 09:35 PM
But we don't know that she IS dating him! The encounter in Monaco was not necessarily a "date." Again, let's not jump to conclusions.

I'm really starting to get annoyed with Voici. It's probably not worth the bad karma to put a curse on them, but this is just disgusting. Regardless of what's happening in Alizée's relationship with Jérémy, isn't Pokora in a serious relationship with someone else, too? How is his lady going to feel seeing all this crap in the tabloids?

She didn't say anything today, which may or may not be significant. She may be deciding how to deal with it. Or whatever.
I dont know if what Voici is doing should be considered wrong, I mean they didnt hack anyone's phone line and dig through her trash (in reference to Paul McCartney and whats going on in Britain). Every bit of evidence so far that they have to support their claim was captured on public property. They are simply making logical but perhaps incorrect/correct assumptions on current observations and based on how no one here can truly pick a side on whether this assumption is true or false I would say this is great reporting on their part. Bravo to Voici, don't be mad at them they are just doing their jobs and it seems to have been done ethically!

Taxi Driver Aaron
02-18-2012, 12:42 AM
:lurk:

I been reading the posts... but I still choose not to add fuel to the fire....

btw ... some people take off their wedding ring because they don't want to damage or lose it!

and Alizée does not have to respond to rumors (whether they are right or wrong) ... it doesn't prove or disprove anything. Maybe she is letting it linger because of all the attention she is getting? ... it's free marketing if you ask me... heck... if Jeremy is okay with it, it's a smart move...

Edit:

Mmm... ok. I will put a picture of Adriana Lima on my mobile phone. Maybe i get to hang around with her just like MP does with Alizée...

holy crap!... so when is the wedding?.....

I've got Alizée on my phone ... and I've got Fergie on my other phone... that can only mean one thing.... I'm a player!... :D

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 12:55 AM
My phones wallpaper is just a blank screen.....does that mean I'm gonna die alone? :(

SpanishFan
02-18-2012, 02:05 AM
My phones wallpaper is just a blank screen.....does that mean I'm gonna die alone? :(




http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15618/156183064f4201a2ebc7050a6377a1f995e68f8d.gif

Jake04
02-18-2012, 02:37 AM
I have a picture of Alizee on my phone too. D@mn! How many boyfriends does this lady have? :D
On a serious note: A photo on one's cellphone; a missing wedding ring; photos and videos of them together; unusually being close together while performing at a concert; flying hundreds of miles to an event she's not even invited to to be with him; the unusual silence on her part, reported split with Jeremy; her moving out to Ajaccio; etc. - any of these on itself or even a combination of some may not mean that much. However, putting them all together speaks for itself, IMO. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, we may not have all the pieces yet but, we have enough pieces to see what it is.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3559/couple1p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/couple1p.jpg/)

I'm just glad it's MP. This guy looks decent, IMO. His chosen adapted last name "Pokora" means humility in Polish language as per Wiki. I think his similarities to Jeremy is what attracted him to Alizee - assuming of course this is true. Like I've said before, he looks like a better version of Jeremy - in looks, career-wise and hopefully personality-wise as well!

I'm also glad that I can say for sure that he's not just using Alizee to advance his career. As we all know, Alizee is no longer popular in France. On the other hand, it might even HURT his career. So, I think he's probably genuinely attracted to her as well - which is NOT HARD to do at all.

User22
02-18-2012, 03:28 AM
Come on Alizee...the clock is ticking...she might just play this one off as if nothing happened :(

Scruffydog777
02-18-2012, 04:18 AM
As far as wearing a ring, I know many people havve different views on wearing one. When I first got married, in the first few weeks I took it off a few times because I never really wore one before and it bothered me for a while. But after that, I never removed mine in 11 years, until I got divorced, and I was in a line of work were I would have been perfectly justified to. I had a few nicks in it from times it would get snagged on something while I was working. We also do a lot of electrical work inside different power panels where a lot of juice is all around, but that didn't stop me. I guess it's what individuals themselves put into the meaning of wearing one.

Bigdan
02-18-2012, 05:32 AM
More " serious " magazine ( Le Figaro TV) are very incredulous about it...

http://tvmag.lefigaro.fr/programme-tv/article/people/67901/alizee-et-mpokora-unis-par-les-enfoires.html

Saying Matt is used to be in this kind of tabloids, but that Alizee got an orderly romantic life...

Bigdan
02-18-2012, 05:32 AM
More " serious " magazine ( Le Figaro TV) are very incredulous about it...

http://tvmag.lefigaro.fr/programme-tv/article/people/67901/alizee-et-mpokora-unis-par-les-enfoires.html

Saying Matt is used to be in this kind of tabloids, but that Alizee got an orderly romantic life...

Scruffydog777
02-18-2012, 08:28 AM
If and it is still a very big if at this point that it's true that Alizee's and Jeremy's relationship is over, I doubt if it is something that happened overnight. Now it seems that most of her tatoos are about something she feels strongly about in life; such as the Tinkerbell tatoo on her back, the Annily tatoo on her arm and Jeremy's name in hebrew on her wrist. So if this new relationship has any truth to it, could it be that this new tatoo of a bird symbolizes something between Alizee and MP?

I don't remember and I couldn't find anything in AAm about it being discussed, but in AF, somebody commented that they thought it symbolized freedom, and I'm sure that was before these rumors came out.

awkward Turtle
02-18-2012, 08:47 AM
Not only in french culture... by us its normal... example my parents never wore rings :)

I had a Slovak teacher who seemed to only wear a wedding ring at most one or two days of the week.

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 08:58 AM
When I first read this, I was a little shaken by this. But after thinking about it for a little bit, it shouldn't and doesn't bother me anymore. Countless other celebrities break up and get remarried (and break up and remarry, etc.) so how is it any different with her? She isn't perfect, and honestly I don't care.

If it's true, it's true. If not, it's not. It doesn't affect my life in any way.

Exactly this has absolutely no affect on any of us, it should not bother any of us

I have a picture of Alizee on my phone too. D@mn! How many boyfriends does this lady have? :D

I picture as your wallpaper is different when you actually know the person.

As far as the rest well, she is French after all. The one thing I've learned about French women in my life is they do what they damned well please. Ménage à trois does come from somewhere too xD.

Regards,

Jung

ALS
02-18-2012, 09:16 AM
My phones wallpaper is just a blank screen.....does that mean I'm gonna die alone? :(

You must work with same kind of women I do? :nervous:

I've had Alizée as my wall paper for at least four years.

Scruffydog777
02-18-2012, 09:42 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason it bothers me is I can't stand to see the woman who has brought a tremendous amount of enjoyment into my life, sad herself. Doesn't seem right that she has done so much to raise my spirits and I cant even do a fraction of that in return.

She looks to be happy now, but again if all this is true, I'm sure she's gone through some very painful periods over it.

Most people here know I've been very critical of her in the past and I still hold some criticisms, mainly about her career and I don't sugar coat things about her because she is "Alizee". But I strongly feel that when this woman married Jeremy, she married him til death would do they part. She was his. She said it herself. "If" something did happen between these two, I strongly believe the mistake was on his part and if it was, I sure some day, he will bitterly regret it.

Deepwaters
02-18-2012, 09:54 AM
She's not sad, Scruff. No matter what the truth or lack thereof in this rumor, she is doing fine.

Her relationship with Jérémy has obviously changed, and that dates back to 2008. I guess I can say now that I always felt it was problems in their marriage (and hence their professional relationship too) that was part of the reason for the cancellation of the concert at the Grand Rex. What made me think that was the fact that she was so friggin' lame about telling people the real reason; the other plausible explanation (low ticket sales) she would have admitted to, but personal stuff she doesn't.

But while their relationship has changed, I'll believe it's actually over when one of them publicly says so, and that hasn't happened so far.

As I said before, we should all just appreciate that she's performing again and doing well at it, and enjoy the album that's coming up, and let her work out her personal life herself. Really, she doesn't need our help to do that.

EDIT: I just remembered that, years ago, Voici printed a false story that she was having an affair with her manager. I wasn't a fan then. Anyone remember what she did in response (presumably under guidance from Mylène, who would know very well how to deal with crap like this)?

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 10:06 AM
I strongly believe the mistake was on his part and if it was, I sure some day, he will bitterly regret it.

Once again they are both French, it is kind of in the culture so to speak. Pretty sure Jeremy won't regret much, he's quite frankly the successful one out of the duo whether you care to believe it or not is up to you. Just cause you don't see it don't mean he doesn't do anything.

Her relationship with Jérémy has obviously changed, and that dates back to 2008. I guess I can say now that I always felt it was problems in their marriage (and hence their professional relationship too) that was part of the reason for the cancellation of the concert at the Grand Rex. What made me think that was the fact that she was so friggin' lame about telling people the real reason; the other plausible explanation (low ticket sales) she would have admitted to, but personal stuff she doesn't.

You really do bring a smile to my face sometimes, and I genuinely mean it......... however, pretty sure she won't do a show that loses her money, as in the case of the Grand Rex they weren't able to give tickets away like they did in Monterrey.

Regards,

Jung

Deepwaters
02-18-2012, 10:44 AM
It wasn't the cancellation per se but her unwillingness to explain it that raised my suspicions. Along with some other things happening at the same time. Low ticket sales is reason enough for the cancellation, but not for the silence.

Karlalizee
02-18-2012, 10:54 AM
Keep in mind that Voici is in the business of selling their rag and not informing. With that in mind I say that, if it is true, then that is between Lili and Jeremy. If it is false, then it will die off eventually.

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 10:54 AM
It wasn't the cancellation per se but her unwillingness to explain it that raised my suspicions. Along with some other things happening at the same time. Low ticket sales is reason enough for the cancellation, but not for the silence.

And she's ever really said anything about anything in public? Sounds like you're making something bigger out of something that is the norm for her.

Regards,

Jung

Karin
02-18-2012, 12:35 PM
It's official. She has a new "copain" or boyfriend. She finally told the world.

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a473/aaronius31/d933f604.jpg

Elatrassi asked, "And what else is new?"

Alizée responded "boyfriend <3"

Aaron, copain means "friend" too...

Merci Alizée
02-18-2012, 12:35 PM
I don't know how that is any type of confirmation.

Aaron, I don't think you understood the tweets correctly.

SpanishFan
02-18-2012, 12:37 PM
I don't understand why i feel kind of down when obviously she looks happy.

WhiteFeather
02-18-2012, 12:43 PM
I don't know how that is any type of confirmation.

Aaron, I don't think you understood the tweets correctly.

I agree. Hasn't she called El Atrassi "copain" in past tweets? I think she is just saying hi to him...

lalorocks
02-18-2012, 12:46 PM
this is not a confirmation, Alizee just returned the greeting to someone who is not Matt Pokora

User22
02-18-2012, 12:51 PM
Aaron, copain means "friend" too...

Frikin crap...so copain is friend while copine is girlfriend? Screwed up if you ask me. Oh man...this is bad. And I thought we got the news first. Caca!

SpanishFan
02-18-2012, 12:54 PM
Frikin crap...so copain is friend while copine is girlfriend? Screwed up if you ask me. Oh man...this is bad. And I thought we got the news first. Caca!


I'm actually quite happy with your mistake.
Feels like saving a matchball.

Jordy
02-18-2012, 12:58 PM
Frikin crap...so copain is friend while copine is girlfriend? Screwed up if you ask me.

copain is friend - male
copine is friend - female

it just that unlike english most of other languages has different words for male and female friends.

Also, both could mean boyfriend and girlfriend, but it's not this case because they were talking just to each other.

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 01:04 PM
Frikin crap...so copain is friend while copine is girlfriend? Screwed up if you ask me. Oh man...this is bad. And I thought we got the news first. Caca!

copain/copine = friend
ami/amie = friend (well when I was in school they taught us that "ami" is someone who's more close to you than a "copain" but I don't know if a lot of people really use is like that. For example Alizée refers to all her friends from the Enfoirés as "coupines" and I remember she called her best friend Helene from Corsica in one interview from 2007/2008 a "copine" too.

girlfriend/boyfriend is petit(e) ami(e) or petit(e) copine/copain

I guess you didn't understand it correctly and she was just talking to a friend.

EDIT: oh looks like Jordy was quicker. damn. ;)

Karin
02-18-2012, 01:07 PM
I must laugh... magazines made rumors of there is something between them... and now Aaron made other, that A confirmed it :D

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 01:09 PM
Well I can see why you took it as conformation. He asked what's new, and she used a term that could mean boyfriend. So....kinda like saying she has a new boyfriend. I'm sure i woulda mad that same mistake too. :p

User22
02-18-2012, 01:33 PM
Well I can see why you took it as conformation. He asked what's new, and she used a term that could mean boyfriend. So....kinda like saying she has a new boyfriend. I'm sure i woulda mad that same mistake too. :p

Thanks Brian, glad to know I'm not the only "stupid" American :p Okay so maybe you're not stupid...but I am. I'm going to go cry and hope A. didn't see anything...

Karlalizee
02-18-2012, 01:35 PM
You guys just love keeping this going! :p

ALS
02-18-2012, 01:36 PM
As the Ajaccio / Paris soap opera continues. :snack:

Karla where have you been ?

User22
02-18-2012, 01:38 PM
As the Ajaccio / Paris soap opera continues. :snack:

Hey, I had to add some drama to the whole thing, wouldn't be fun without someone misconstruing something.

Come on Alizée...confirm or deny...pick you poi...I mean, announce it!

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 01:41 PM
Lol it is like a soap opera isn't it. Next thing we will hear is that Matt is Jeremy's long lost brother.

Karlalizee
02-18-2012, 01:48 PM
Karla where have you been ?

I pop in now and again. :)

User22
02-18-2012, 01:51 PM
Lol it is like a soap opera isn't it. Next thing we will hear is that Matt is Jeremy's long lost brother.

Or that Matt Pokora will be a co-producer of the new album along with Jeremy lulz.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 01:54 PM
Well, the most recent Twitter account Lili is following, is Sir Cid official. Account run by Jeremy. The Sir Cid account is not following Lili yet, but it looks like it was created recently. All three posts are from today.

User22
02-18-2012, 02:04 PM
Well, the most recent Twitter account Lili is following, is Sir Cid official. Account run by Jeremy. The Sir Cid account is not following Lili yet, but it looks like it was created recently. All three posts are from today.

Interesting...finally, some good news :p

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 02:08 PM
Well, the most recent Twitter account Lili is following, is Sir Cid official. Account run by Jeremy. The Sir Cid account is not following Lili yet, but it looks like it was created recently. All three posts are from today.

well THIS is interesting... let's see if he's going to follow her on Twitter or not.

(lol that sounds so weird. That it could mean something if couples don't follow each other on Twitter. Jesus. Like Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher or Katy Perry and her ex who's name I forgot. This mad world. Now THIS I REALLY call a soap opera lol) :facepalm:

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 02:09 PM
I've also seen a lot more MP fans on her twitter page. That could simply be because of the rumor though, more MP fans hearing about Lili. In sure the MP forums are buzzing as well about this.



Another thing I noticed, for her location, Lili put Corsica and Paris. Jeremy only has Paris listed. Maybe Lili is in Corsica working on her album, and Jeremy is in Paris working on his fashion line. Seems like he is still working on it, a new Twitter page and all.

User22
02-18-2012, 02:17 PM
Is it HER fashion line though? I always thought Jeremy created it and was his. Sir Sid has aleays been a hazy subject pour moi

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 02:19 PM
No its his, I meant to type his, not hers. And he seems to be on right now, but still isnt following her.

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 02:27 PM
Well, the most recent Twitter account Lili is following, is Sir Cid official. Account run by Jeremy. The Sir Cid account is not following Lili yet, but it looks like it was created recently. All three posts are from today.
Then there is your answer and probably theirs too without saying anything. The reason why Alizee is not saying anything is because Her, Jeremy, and Matt know its bullshit and right now it is just "free press" like I said before. I would be very surprised if she responds to this anytime soon!

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 02:31 PM
It is possible that she may just be letting it ride to get her name in the press again. She is listing her location as Paris AND Corsica. Not just Corsica. So like I said, maybe they are both working on their own stuff right now. Maybe she wanted to be in Corsica for album inspiration or somthin. But thats just more speculation :p

Rev
02-18-2012, 02:34 PM
Well, the most recent Twitter account Lili is following, is Sir Cid official. Account run by Jeremy. The Sir Cid account is not following Lili yet, but it looks like it was created recently. All three posts are from today.


Are you sure that is actually his page and not a copycat?

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 02:36 PM
Are you sure that is actually his page and not a copycat?


I don't know for sure, but Lili is following it. Figured that counted for somethin!

Rev
02-18-2012, 02:38 PM
...You really do bring a smile to my face sometimes, and I genuinely mean it......... however, pretty sure she won't do a show that loses her money, as in the case of the Grand Rex they weren't able to give tickets away like they did in Monterrey...



Of course they lost money by cancelling the concert. Do you think that it didn't cost her anything to get out of the commitment?!! :facepalm:

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 02:49 PM
Of course they lost money by cancelling the concert. Do you think that it didn't cost her anything to get out of the commitment?!! :facepalm: It definitely cost her money but it would have cost her a lot more if she didn't cancel.

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 02:55 PM
looks like Alizée already unfollowed Jérémy. Or he blocked her. damn it.

EDIT: I don't think she doesn't say anything because everyone know that all the rumours are bullshit. When the first rumours about A. & J. splitting up were in the news in 2009 she denied it in less than a day. She wanted to make it clear that they are still together... and now? Silence. And it's even a bigger rumour that last time because last time it was only in one minor newspaper and now it's in the Voici.

Perhaps this silence is a sign. That something is true about this rumour. That we maybe could take it as gospel now.

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 02:55 PM
looks like Alizée already unfollowed Jérémy. Or he blocked her. damn it.

EDIT: I don't think she doesn't say anything because everyone know that all the rumours are bullshit. When the first rumours about A. & J. splitting up were in the news in 2009 she denied it in less than a day. She wanted to make it clear that they are still together... and now? Silence. And it's even a bigger rumour that last time because last time it was only in one minor newspaper and now it's in the Voici.

Perhaps this silence is a sign. That something is true about this rumour. That we maybe could take it as gospel now.

Jordy
02-18-2012, 03:05 PM
A bit off, but...
It definitely cost her money but it would have cost her a lot more if she didn't cancel.

But she would have got a lot of money if her manager wasn't that stupid.

So the cancelled concerts had nothing to do with the relationship between Alizée and Jeremy.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 03:08 PM
Well I'm watching the sir Sid page to see if it blocks all Lili related pages, but so far it has not. So maybe she unfollowed the page. Dunno.


And I understand what you are saying Jenny. The fact that both Lili and Matt are remaining silent does seem odd. But I wouldnt call anything "fact" just yet.

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 03:10 PM
looks like Alizée already unfollowed Jérémy. Or he blocked her. damn it.

EDIT: I don't think she doesn't say anything because everyone know that all the rumours are bullshit. When the first rumours about A. & J. splitting up were in the news in 2009 she denied it in less than a day. She wanted to make it clear that they are still together... and now? Silence. And it's even a bigger rumour that last time because last time it was only in one minor newspaper and now it's in the Voici.

Perhaps this silence is a sign. That something is true about this rumour. That we maybe could take it as gospel now.
Or maybe he just doesn't want his wife following him on twitter for obvious reasons. She is his wife and twitter is for his friends .... when you live and have a daughter with someone; you don't need and very likely don't want them following you on twitter.

Edit:

A bit off, but...


But she would have got a lot of money if her manager wasn't that stupid.

So the cancelled concerts had nothing to do with the relationship between Alizée and Jeremy.
I dont know why you're telling me that because I never said it did

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 03:17 PM
Or maybe he just doesn't want his wife following him on twitter for obvious reasons. She is his wife and twitter is for his friends .... when you live and have a daughter with someone; you don't need and very likely don't want them following you on twitter.
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Edit:


This is a good point. I don't think Lili ever had Jeremy as a friend on her public Facebook. Private sure, but not on the career based page.

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 03:17 PM
Or maybe he just doesn't want his wife following him on twitter for obvious reasons. She is his wife and twitter is for his friends .... when you live and have a daughter with someone; you don't need and very likely don't want them following you on twitter.

maybe I'm stupid but this doesn't make any sense to me...

Twitter is for everyone. If couples add each other on facebook for example why not follow each other on Twitter? A lot of people do so. And in this weird modern life it even means something when couples split up and unfollow each other. Like I said before.

Jordy
02-18-2012, 03:20 PM
I dont know why you're telling me that because I never said it did

Sorry, I wasn't telling that part directly as a reaction to your post, I just continued in the discussion about the canceled concerts and mainly to this part:

Her relationship with Jérémy has obviously changed, and that dates back to 2008. I guess I can say now that I always felt it was problems in their marriage (and hence their professional relationship too) that was part of the reason for the cancellation of the concert at the Grand Rex.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Sorry Jenny I guess we were psoting at the same time. :p

As I said, she never added Jeremy on her official Facebook, at least not that I remember. Maybe keeping career and personal life separate kinda thing.

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 03:23 PM
Of course they lost money by cancelling the concert. Do you think that it didn't cost her anything to get out of the commitment?!! :facepalm:

Mike said it best I think

It definitely cost her money but it would have cost her a lot more if she didn't cancel.

Thank for answering for me it saves me time. Sometime you have to go with what will end up costing you less and that is what was done.

A bit off, but...


But she would have got a lot of money if her manager wasn't that stupid.

So the cancelled concerts had nothing to do with the relationship between Alizée and Jeremy.

It didn't have anything to do with her manager, there just wasn't interest in her or the album at the time or location. The second canceling was definitely known before she said anything or anyone was told about it as DJ Karve was booked in another country for that night and he was supposed to be playing in her concerts. Quite frankly you're lucky anything was said, cause someone had to coerce her into writing that letter and that fella stayed up that night helping her do the letter.

Regards,

Jung

Rev
02-18-2012, 03:43 PM
It definitely cost her money but it would have cost her a lot more if she didn't cancel.

A bit off, but...
... So the cancelled concerts had nothing to do with the relationship between Alizée and Jeremy.


You are both stating opinions, not facts. We do not know which way would have been more costly. And we do not know if their relationship was a factor or not. Stay with facts. :)

Karin
02-18-2012, 03:49 PM
that about her manager is fact... they had many problems - cause Psychedelices... then she fired him...

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 03:51 PM
Hey Karin, you said Voici was running another story today about all this. Anything new?

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 03:53 PM
You are both stating opinions, not facts. We do not which way would have been more costly. And we do not know if their relationship was a factor or not. Stay with facts. :)
It was very costly both ways which tells you she wouldn't let personal matters effect it so there is your answer there, as for which one was more costly; which option did she decide to do ... there is your answer! If thats not good enough just look at the logistical side of things. She has pay for the renting of the venue, the venue gets a percentage of ticket sales and fines you if you can't pay them X amount, she has to pay the dancers and musicians as well as a technical crew X amount, she has to pay for all the transportation costs of getting the equipment as well as the people there, and etc. If the ticket sales is not enough to cover this it is better to just pay the cancellation fee for braking commitments with the venue.

ALS
02-18-2012, 03:54 PM
that about her manager is fact... they had many problems - cause Psychedelices... then she fired him...

If I remember the story, the Manager/Promoter did almost nothing to promote the concert at the Rex. Thus since there was minimal effort put into the task the result was as predicted, very lack luster ticket sales.

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 03:59 PM
You are both stating opinions, not facts. We do not know which way would have been more costly. And we do not know if their relationship was a factor or not. Stay with facts. :)

Fun Fact number one, actual ticket sales sucked for the whole tour.

Regards,

Jung

Rev
02-18-2012, 04:00 PM
Fun Fact number one, actual ticket sales sucked for the whole tour.

Regards,

Jung

Do you have numbers? I would be curious. :)

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 04:02 PM
it's even on TV (2:22)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CVPH7NqYa-M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 04:05 PM
Do you have numbers? I would be curious. :)
Well non of us really know for sure that is true; but the most *logical* and likely assumption is what Jung and I have said; otherwise we can argue futility on what really happened.

Karin
02-18-2012, 04:06 PM
only for info... according to wikipedia more than 70,000 people in the whole tour

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Do you know what they said Jenny?

Rev
02-18-2012, 04:08 PM
Well non of us really know for sure that is true; but the most *logical* and likely assumption is what Jung and I have said; otherwise we can argue futility on what really happened.

I PMed you. I'm dropping the topic here. :)

Jenny_HRO87
02-18-2012, 04:10 PM
Do you know what they said Jenny?

nothing new. The same stuff as always. That they fell in love during the Enfoirés, love at first sign (Coup de foudre) bla bla...

jung_adore_ALIZEE
02-18-2012, 04:23 PM
Do you have numbers? I would be curious. :)

For the Grand Rex I believe it was in the hundreds, which wouldn't cover the venue cost. I don't deal in guessing how or why things happen.

only for info... according to wikipedia more than 70,000 people in the whole tour

This is counting tickets that were given away.

Regards,

Jung

Karin
02-18-2012, 04:33 PM
This is counting tickets that were given away.


then you can count it on other place

Jake04
02-18-2012, 04:36 PM
Wow. I thought this thread was about to die last night. Now, all of a sudden, it just exploded again I could barely keep up!

I don't remember and I couldn't find anything in AAm about it being discussed, but in AF, somebody commented that they thought it symbolized freedom, and I'm sure that was before these rumors came out.
That's what I thought it was as well after this thing started to happen.

She's not sad, Scruff. No matter what the truth or lack thereof in this rumor, she is doing fine.

It looks like she's doing fine now. But, I'm sure at some point (again assuming her split with Jeremy is true) she felt very sad. Breaking up with someone you loved and the father of your child is not an easy thing to do.

Keep in mind that Voici is in the business of selling their rag and not informing. With that in mind I say that, if it is true, then that is between Lili and Jeremy. If it is false, then it will die off eventually.
If Alizee's album were about to be released in a few days or even weeks, I'd say she's just allowing this to go on for free press. But, since there's not even an exact release date yet kind of makes me wonder.

Lol it is like a soap opera isn't it. Next thing we will hear is that Matt is Jeremy's long lost brother.
Or MP and Jeremy are the true lovers and not MP and Alizee - as there were reports of MP as being gay. :D

maybe I'm stupid but this doesn't make any sense to me...

Twitter is for everyone. If couples add each other on facebook for example why not follow each other on Twitter? A lot of people do so. And in this weird modern life it even means something when couples split up and unfollow each other. Like I said before.
I agree. Tweeter has a "Direct Message" feature so only the person you send it to can read your tweets. So, it's kind of weird not to follow your own spouse on Tweeter.

Karin
02-18-2012, 04:37 PM
Tweeter has a "Direct Message" feature so only the person you send it to can read your tweets. So, it's kind of weird not to follow your own spouse on Tweeter.

dont forget, you can send direct message only to person who are you following, and he/she is following you

Jake04
02-18-2012, 04:53 PM
dont forget, you can send direct message only to person who are you following, and he/she is following you
Yes. Unlike fb, where she had to create a private account for her family, relatives and close friends, she doesn't have to do this on Tweeter. That's why I said there is no reason for them not to "follow" one another on Tweeter.

lefty12357
02-18-2012, 06:20 PM
Maybe this whole situation with Alizée and MP is quite fluid at the moment and nothing is certain yet. That might lead a person to not confirm or deny anything, because it's not truly clear to the people involved yet where it's all going. Or it could still be all a misreading of events.

Rev
02-18-2012, 06:34 PM
Maybe this whole situation with Alizée and MP is quite fluid at the moment and nothing is certain yet. That might lead a person to not confirm or deny anything, because it's not truly clear to the people involved yet where it's all going. Or it could still be all a misreading of events.

I think we are beyond a complete misreading of events. However, it is an emerging relationship and things could change at any moment.

I find it amusing that everyone is waiting to hear yes or no. Maybe "I don't know" is simply the answer. :)

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 06:51 PM
Very true lefty and rev. This all seems quite recent, so maybe they are not at a real definable stage in their relationship.

lefty12357
02-18-2012, 06:55 PM
I think we are beyond a complete misreading of events. However, it is an emerging relationship and things could change at any moment.

I find it amusing that everyone is waiting to hear yes or no. Maybe "I don't know" is simply the answer. :)

Yeah, well I've been avoiding committing to a particular stance on this subject for now. But all along it's looked to me like a separation followed by interest in a new relationship. And yes, I think the whole thing is still evolving.

lalorocks
02-18-2012, 07:03 PM
The problem is Why she doesn't want to say yes or not, why? This is not difficult.
Whatever the answer, I'm sure that everyone is going to support her.
Maybe she doesn't trust in us.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 07:03 PM
That would explain the lack of an answer. Can't say no.....but cant say yes :p

And its not a lack of trust, its just not our business. She has no obligation to give us information. As much as we want it :p

lalorocks
02-18-2012, 07:13 PM
Other situation is, I don't know if you have already commented, that if she wants a divorce she has to come to United States

Azhiri
02-18-2012, 07:21 PM
I don't know, guys. Something about that man sends me very strong "gay" vibes. :13:

If Alizee and Jeremy have separated, my main concern is Annily.. my parents' divorce was very traumatic for me, as many are, but I have a feeling the two would keep everything civil. I know that Alizee has always been very discreet about her personal life, but I really think some sort of statement would or should be given on this.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Yeah, I worry about if there would be a custody battle or somethin. :(


And yeah there is a rumor that Matt is gay, which is interesting cause people thought Jeremy was gay too before he dated Lili. :p

Azhiri
02-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Yeah, I worry about if there would be a custody battle or something. :(

Yep. I have a feeling that Jeremy would ultimately get custody, with some sort of visitation arrangement for Alizee; Jeremy seems relatively inactive and would have more time to care for Annily than her mother would, especially during the next year or so with the new album coming out.

After considering recent events and the evidence, plus the lack of wedding ring, this is really looking like a possibility. Sometimes it's best for a family that parents end their marriage. For a family to be happy and functional, the parents need to have a very healthy, loving relationship.. otherwise the dynamic spreads and everyone is affected and unhappy. Whether the rumors are true or not, I hope that if things ever come to that, they put what's best for little Annily first.

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 07:37 PM
You guys are putting the carriage way before the horse.
On a completely random note, I dont even think Alizee and Jeremy had there marriage legalized in France correct me anyone if im wrong; so a divorce technically can never happen.
Also if the two were in the process of separating I don't think Alizee would be trying to follow him on twitter.

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure, but I don't think they legalized the marriage in France

Rev
02-18-2012, 07:44 PM
<IFRAME height=360 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fblt4EotgOk" frameBorder=0 width=480 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fblt4EotgOk
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fblt4EotgOk)


When I watched this video 2 weeks ago, I wondered why she was SO serious in the first part of it. Now, the reason is obvious (starting at about minute 4 thru to the end).


Scruffy, you took a Great video. Thanks. :)

Azhiri
02-18-2012, 07:45 PM
You guys are putting the carriage way before the horse.

I tried to use "if" as much as possible, but hey.. it's hard not to speculate. :rolleyes:

On a completely random note, I dont even think Alizee and Jeremy had there marriage legalized in France correct me anyone if im wrong; so a divorce technically can never happen.
Also if the two were in the process of separating I don't think Alizee would be trying to follow him on twitter.

I believe you're correct. Someone mentioned earlier that if they wanted to be officially separated they'd have to come to America to do so. Is that really true?

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 07:46 PM
If they want to be divorced in the eyes of the US then yeah, I think they have paperwork to do here.

Future Raptor Ace
02-18-2012, 07:58 PM
I tried to use "if" as much as possible, but hey.. it's hard not to speculate. :rolleyes:



I believe you're correct. Someone mentioned earlier that if they wanted to be officially separated they'd have to come to America to do so. Is that really true?
Since they were married in Las Vegas and it is legal here I know for sure that unless they fix that they will always be considered married here in the US.
random but related video
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sbKgo40VCOE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Karlalizee
02-18-2012, 08:16 PM
In France you have to be married by the state in order for it to be legal. Which means, you get married in city hall and THEN have the church wedding. Since they got married in Las Vegas, they are not legally married in France.

User22
02-18-2012, 08:27 PM
They aren't divorced. She isn't dating Matt Pokora. She is married to Jeremy Chatelain.

That's all we have so far :p

melovelily
02-18-2012, 08:35 PM
They aren't divorced. She isn't dating Matt Pokora. She is married to Jeremy Chatelain.

That's all we have so far :p

and she have a daughter BTW trololololol

Karlalizee
02-18-2012, 08:41 PM
AZHIRI you cow how ya doing babe?

SpanishFan
02-18-2012, 08:54 PM
Mmm... We pretty much considered all the possibilities already...


http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15623/156230495cc4db584e9604bdff23102856ca0f17.jpg

Azhiri
02-18-2012, 09:39 PM
AZHIRI you cow how ya doing babe?

I'm doing great doll :wub: Kickin' butt in school, celebrated the one-year mark with my bf not long ago. Life's a dream :) How are you?

Mmm... We pretty much considered all the possibilities already...


http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15623/156230495cc4db584e9604bdff23102856ca0f17.jpg

Cute! :p

lalorocks
02-18-2012, 09:58 PM
They aren't divorced. She isn't dating Matt Pokora. She is married to Jeremy Chatelain.

That's all we have so far :p

Here, she says clearly that she belongs to Jeremy (last seconds)


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/glQH8blf3os" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BrianO1
02-18-2012, 10:07 PM
Mmm... We pretty much considered all the possibilities already...


HA! I have not yet begun to speculate!!!! Maybe one cold rainy Parisian night, Jeremy was captured by a race of evil space lobsters, and an evil robot version of Jeremy was placed with Alizee. The giant space lobsters came to our planet, to steal our water, because their planet had be rendered barren in the great lawn gnome war. They saw Lili's JEAM music video, and figured she must be the ruler of all of earths water.

But in the future, on an earth ruined and destroyed by the space lobsters, the few remaining survivors, picked one brave soul, to send back in time, to protect Lili from the Jereminator. The brave soul....was MP.


So, as it turns out, they are not dating, just trying to secretly save us from evil crustaceans.

Azhiri
02-18-2012, 10:26 PM
So, as it turns out, they are not dating, just trying to secretly save us from evil crustaceans.

That's an idea I can get behind!

SpanishFan
02-18-2012, 10:28 PM
I see...
So it is MP's mission to raise an Alizée army...
All the habitants of the earth must dance simultaneously the JEAM coreography. It is the only way to beat the lobsters.
Everybody knows space lobsters hate bubbles in the water...

Well, once the mistery solved, i can at last relax and forget about this thread... Thanks!

Taxi Driver Aaron
02-19-2012, 12:24 AM
So if I were to marry Alizée in my dream.... then it would be recognized; in my dreams! :)

Jake04
02-19-2012, 12:54 AM
According to some reports, Alizée will be interviewed next week by William Réjault for the new duet she did with Alain Chamfort for his new album! Her alleged relationship with MP is all over France already, so there's a strong chance she'll get asked about it. Perhaps she's just waiting for that interview as well that's why she's not talking about it on Tweeter.

Edit: I just read our fb message. I guess it refers to the interview not being confirmed yet?

Euphoria
02-19-2012, 03:10 AM
Wouldn't surprise me, really. From what I've heard around the grapevine, she and Jeremy are just together because of their child. I'm pretty sure she just married him to get away from Mylene. She and Jeremy aren't really married, either. A quickie marriage in Las Vegas doesn't count in France.

user472884
02-19-2012, 04:02 AM
At first I was like

http://data.whicdn.com/images/13442267/funny-lol-patrick-scared-spongebob-Favim.com-124105_large.jpg



But then I was like

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/399/fry.PNG?1307468855

Scruffydog777
02-19-2012, 05:27 AM
In my eyes, it doesn't matter what state or what country or what church, temple, mosque or religous institution a couple gets married in, the marriage ends the day they stop loving each other and with that I'm assuming what may have been one party's choice to end it in the beginning, is now both party's choices.

If this rumor is true, of course it's Annily who will be hurt the most by it. Should they stay together for her sake to maintain a family image for her? I don't think so. I've seen relationships like that before and it's so obvious what's going on; not a very loving enviroment that a child should have while growing up. Hopefully her parents will stay close together so she can see them both on a regular basis if that's what she wants.

It's kind of ironic some of the scenes Alizee was in during this year's LE show, including the part where she sang "You had my heart inside your hand.".

This also could be a delayed version of the 7 year itch. Maybe after spending some time apart, they'll come to their senses and get back together.

Karin
02-19-2012, 06:14 AM
like Brian told... they must confirm their marriage in France... and I think too they didnt do it... and still, all people are calling her mademoiselle... why when she is married? :p then madame no? :p

Jenny_HRO87
02-19-2012, 07:21 AM
like Brian told... they must confirm their marriage in France... and I think too they didnt do it... and still, all people are calling her mademoiselle... why when she is married? :p then madame no? :p

not necessarily... I don't know if I remember if it was Brigitte Bardot or some other older female french idol... but even she - who is over 70 years or so - insists to be called "Mademoiselle" because it's flattering. When you call a woman Mademoiselle is means that she doesn't look as "old" as a "Madame". So it isn't a big surprise that Alizée calls herself Mademoiselle... well apart from that she still is one because her marriage was never legalised in France. But we already pointed this out :)

HA! I have not yet begun to speculate!!!! Maybe one cold rainy Parisian night, Jeremy was captured by a race of evil space lobsters, and an evil robot version of Jeremy was placed with Alizee. The giant space lobsters came to our planet, to steal our water, because their planet had be rendered barren in the great lawn gnome war. They saw Lili's JEAM music video, and figured she must be the ruler of all of earths water.

But in the future, on an earth ruined and destroyed by the space lobsters, the few remaining survivors, picked one brave soul, to send back in time, to protect Lili from the Jereminator. The brave soul....was MP.


So, as it turns out, they are not dating, just trying to secretly save us from evil crustaceans.

I prefer the Doctor Who related theory you gave at AF... that Jeremy has vanished into an alternate reality and Alizée & Matt have teamed up to find him :) Team TARDIS sounds more fun :)

Bigdan
02-19-2012, 08:17 AM
not necessarily... I don't know if I remember if it was Brigitte Bardot or some other older female french idol... but even she - who is over 70 years or so - insists to be called "Mademoiselle" because it's flattering.)

True. But it's mostly for actresses. It cames from Theatre (Sarah Bernhardt was a Mademoiselle till the end of her life). Today, Jeanne Moreau is still called that way.
But I think " Mademoiselle Alizée" just came from Psychalizee album, it's a way for her to make the difference between the public image and Alizée Jacotey, the person.

Merci Alizée
02-19-2012, 09:00 AM
It really doesn't matter to me if she has chosen to move on in her relationship life, but I would be somewhat disappointed if this is indeed true, because everything she has said on interviews about the importance of family, being a dedicated mother and wife, being different as other artists with their scandals was one of the main reasons I really admired of her as an artist. She was able to have a clean career, have a certain contact with her fans and still keep a stable private family life as she stated many times in her interviews.

But as many of you have said, time will tell, and like always I wish the best for her.

I have similar sentiments. For many years, I wished for not only her happiness, but also for her family. Whenever I visit a temple, I pray for their prosperity, good life and hoped that everyone stays together. Probably this is one reason I was bit disappointed when the thought of problems in her family came to my mind.

Whatever happens, I hope that it turns out to be good for everyone. For her, Annily and Jeremy. :)

User22
02-19-2012, 10:17 AM
Don't worry guys. As far as we know, she's still married ;)

lefty12357
02-19-2012, 10:33 AM
Generally speaking, I may be sad to see a couple break up that started out happy together, but it doesn’t make me think any less of either of them, as long as they do their best for any children involved and try to make a clean break of it. I think it’s not a question of IF a couple breaks up, but HOW they breakup that matters most.

BrianO1
02-19-2012, 11:29 AM
Whichever story you prefer Jenny! :D

User22
02-19-2012, 12:26 PM
We should create a poll for the outcome since everyone has created their speculations :p

Future Raptor Ace
02-19-2012, 12:39 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, really. From what I've heard around the grapevine, she and Jeremy are just together because of their child. I'm pretty sure she just married him to get away from Mylene. She and Jeremy aren't really married, either. A quickie marriage in Las Vegas doesn't count in France.
Ummmm ............ NO! You are right that their marriage doesn't count in France but you are wrong in the context in which you said it. Legally, it doesn't count but in terms of commitment and love it still counts in France ... she does wear her ring!

ALS
02-19-2012, 12:40 PM
Is their Las Vegas Marriage reconized in France? Well yes and no depending on what paper work they submitted to the proper office in Paris.

Getting-married-in-Las-Vegas (http://www.prlog.org/10220223-getting-married-in-las-vegas.html)

Getting married in Las Vegas
Before the civil or religious ceremony, the spouses must obtain a marriage license ( "Marriage License"), which is produced in Las Vegas with the County Court House, 200 South 3rd street.
After the civil or religious ceremony, the spouses receive the authority celebrated the marriage certificate entitled "Marriage Certificate".

Attention, this marriage will then be "saved" by the local administrative authorities of Clark County, which will issue an official document, the "Certified Abstract of Marriage."You can get up on this act before:
Clark County Recorder Clark County Recorder
500 South Grand Central Parkway 500
LAS VEGAS, NV 89155-1510
Telephone: (1) 702 -455-4336

Only the "Certified Abstract of Marriage" will allow the French Consulate to put your marriage on civil registers French.

Note that the Consulate General of France in Los Angeles is not able to provide places of celebration of marriage and can not substitute for you to get the marriage official.This act will necessarily be delivered or you be sent to your address, and not of the Consulate.
Getting a family book and acts
French marriage (Transcript)
Following the publication of banns, the Consulate is already in possession of your file. You will then submit the original copy of the marriage U.S. official registered by the Clark County, entitled "Certified Abstract of Marriage" (the translation is not required).

The Consulate transcribe your marriage on French consular records, and you ship directly to your home a family book and certified copies of your marriage.Because of the large number of marriages in Las Vegas, an average delay of three months is expected for this shipment.

However, under Article 47 of the French Civil Code ( "Any act of the civil status of French and foreign, done in foreign countries shall prevail if it was written in the forms used in that country.) you are considered married at the time of marriage specified in the "Certified Abstract of Marriage." Any religious marriage in France is now possible.

Future Raptor Ace
02-19-2012, 12:40 PM
We should create a poll for the outcome since everyone has created their speculations :p
LOL!
There is no point though since it honestly is a coin toss right now ... and this man never puts his chips in on a coin toss!

BrianO1
02-19-2012, 01:08 PM
We should create a poll for the outcome since everyone has created their speculations :p


Well it seems like more and more people are taking the silence from both camps as proof of everything.


But then again, if she is fighting space lobsters, she may not want to give away too much information on her progress.

Euphoria
02-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Ummmm ............ NO! You are right that their marriage doesn't count in France but you are wrong in the context in which you said it. Legally, it doesn't count but in terms of commitment and love it still counts in France ... she does wear her ring!
And? You think people having affairs just stop wearing their wedding rings? No, it looks suspicious. I really doubt she and Jeremy are still together. For years, they've seemed like nothing but friends.

Finnishguy
02-19-2012, 02:12 PM
Wtf? one weekend offline in own peace and...... you're crazy, guys :blink:

soo, about Alizée's marriage, who cares. It's not import to be married, but since we know she wanted to do it with Jérémy, it's really import thing. Where's the ring.

And now I'd say, however things are, I think A is really happy. don't ask me about reason :D

Future Raptor Ace
02-19-2012, 02:48 PM
And? You think people having affairs just stop wearing their wedding rings? No, it looks suspicious. I really doubt she and Jeremy are still together. For years, they've seemed like nothing but friends.
No I agree people on affairs don't just stop wearing their rings. However Alizee is not on an affair for if she was this topic would not exist .... we would not know about it! She is a genius with keeping her personal life secret, im sure a "hypothetical affair" would be child's play for her.
They seem like friends to you because they kept their private life and intimacy out of the spot light. However there are times when you can clearly see the connection; one being on their trip to New York in 2008. There are also a couple of pictures out there that show the two together in a light opposite to what you speak. Finally the two had a kid together and correct me if im wrong (I never was good with biology) but in order for that to happen the two must have had sex ..... that seems a bit more than just friends to me!

edit: I find this interesting
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5012

BrianO1
02-19-2012, 03:12 PM
Euphoria isn't saying they were never in love, just that in later years, things seemed different. Like back in 2008, the rumor you linked too, was that the two were getting divorced because they had a fight about her third album, which they worked together to make. She said that rumor was false, yet, Jeremy is no where to be found on her fourth album. People thought that was a bit odd.


Over all, People have been speculating problems for years, that's all Euphoria is saying :)


But then again....if Jeremy was replaced by a robo-Jeremy....I'm sure she would have noticed the difference. Maybe THAT'S why things seemed to change.:13:

Azhiri
02-19-2012, 03:27 PM
And? You think people having affairs just stop wearing their wedding rings? No, it looks suspicious. I really doubt she and Jeremy are still together. For years, they've seemed like nothing but friends.

Not to mention that she was very young when they got married and had Annily. No matter how stable/mature Alizee may have been back then, people grow and change. If I remember correctly, some people raised their eyebrows when that happened and thought it was part of a "rebellious" phase.

lefty12357
02-19-2012, 03:29 PM
It seems that at least some of the people who worked on Alizée's last album are friends of Jérémy's. Now I don't know if he got to know them through Alizée's association with them, or if he hooked her up with them because he already knew them, but it's possible in some way he was still involved.

Future Raptor Ace
02-19-2012, 03:33 PM
Not to mention that she was very young when they got married and had Annily. No matter how stable/mature Alizee may have been back then, people grow and change. If I remember correctly, some people raised their eyebrows when that happened and thought it was part of a "rebellious" phase.
On that note, Alizee did admit to Anilly "not being planned" so perhaps you're right but no one can know for sure.

Edit:

Euphoria isn't saying they were never in love, just that in later years, things seemed different. Like back in 2008, the rumor you linked too, was that the two were getting divorced because they had a fight about her third album, which they worked together to make. She said that rumor was false, yet, Jeremy is no where to be found on her fourth album. People thought that was a bit odd.


Over all, People have been speculating problems for years, that's all Euphoria is saying :)


But then again....if Jeremy was replaced by a robo-Jeremy....I'm sure she would have noticed the difference. Maybe THAT'S why things seemed to change.:13:
Whoa for a second I thought you were Euphoria lol :2_thumbs:

BrianO1
02-19-2012, 03:33 PM
It seems that at least some of the people who worked on Alizée's last album are friends of Jérémy's. Now I don't know if he got to know them through Alizée's association with them, or if he hooked her up with them because he already knew them, but it's possible in some way he was still involved.

It is of course possible, but it's also possible that she may have befriended them through Jeremy at a previous time, and they agreed to help her on the album, regardless over what was going on between Jeremy and Lili when the album was being made.


Who knows! :)

@Ace- How could you confuse us?! She's pretty, and female, I am quite the opposite of pretty, and last time I checked, male! :p

Future Raptor Ace
02-19-2012, 03:45 PM
@Ace- How could you confuse us?! She's pretty, and female, I am quite the opposite of pretty, and last time I checked, male! :p
LOL whoops :w::runaway: