AAm twitter logo

[Merci Alizée]

TDA suggested that we should change AAm twitter logo.

What other members think about this?

[Scruffydog777]

I never did like the logo. That's why when I went to the autograph session, I had my own made up.

Now maybe having the U.S. flag is misrepresentative of where many of our forum members are from, but I worry if we change it, that might lead Alizee to not recognize it. Besides, the U.S. flag is very color co-ordinated with the French flag and makes for a well balanced, picture wise logo.

I didn't like the torch or the yellow color in our logo. It should be something very pleasing to the eye and it's far from that. So I'm sure members here can come up with something better.

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[Taxi Driver Aaron]

I never did like the logo. That's why when I went to the autograph session, I had my own made up.

Now maybe having the U.S. flag is misrepresentative of where many of our forum members are from, but I worry if we change it, that might lead Alizee to not recognize it. Besides, the U.S. flag is very color co-ordinated with the French flag and makes for a well balanced, picture wise logo.

I didn't like the torch or the yellow color in our logo. It should be something very pleasing to the eye and it's far from that. So I'm sure members here can come up with something better.




Scruffy, I agree with you. The current logo that we have is an eye sore. Not to say that it was bad all along because I am sure it was good to begin with but I think, like many organizations, logos should be changed over time to conform to what is current and trendy. Yes we can do without the torch and the yellow, it is kind of meaningless, or if there is a meaning behind it then it is hard to decipher.

I disagree, however, that a logo change will confuse anyone, especially Alizée. And to say that changing a logo will confuse someone is kind of condescending to their intelligence (in my humble opinion). We should give Alizée and her fans more credit than that! Other Alizée organizations change their logos regularly and it has not phased any of us. We still recognize Alizée Italy, Alizée World, and that one organization that I can't think of right now... oh yes... Alizée France! Shoot, Alizée changes her Twitter icon almost on a weekly basis and we are still able to tell her apart from other twitter followers despite their matching logos! Even the Alizée imposter didn't stand a chance! So I know that we will still, definitely be recognized... provided that the new logo still has as strong indication of being from AAm.

To sandwich my disagreement with another agreement. I, too, agree that a new logo should have the American Flag in it, or at least a STRONG indication that the logo represents Alizée fans from America!

It is true that not all AAm fans are American's, however this organization represents the American fan base, therefore, I do not feel that a Strong American Insinuation in the logo is misleading to the location/type/heritage of its members. Let's face it, most of us are part of other fan pages too, for instance, I am on Alizée France, and I know that some people here are in the UK and Italy forums. Nobody is going to kick you out of their fan page because of where you're from... The beauty of the internet brings us together! I will proudly purchase and represent an Alizée France logo just as well; not turn it down because I'm not French... In any event, America is cultural melting pot... So technically, people of all nationalities can represent America anyway.

:aha:

Edit... one of the positive aspects of changing the logo is that it may turn more heads and boost our member count! More people will be wondering what is going on with this American fan base that is going through these changes and they may snoop on over to check us out!

[User22]

but I worry if we change it, that might lead Alizee to not recognize it.

This is the only reason I think we should keep it. But I got to thinking that if you guys create something with red, white, and blue, she'll easily recognize it as AlizeeAmerica, even though we have members all around the world.

[SpanishFan]

http://logo.cafepress.com/nocache/3/4564773.jpg


Things i don't like:

It is a little bit plain
White background make it look even more plain
It looks outdated when you see it in Twitter in comparison with the rest of logos/avatars...



Things I like:

The composition: Flags to the sides, a figure in the middle and the signature at the bottom.
The simbolism of the flags. Simple but effective
I like the fact that there is something representative of New York in the logo since Alizée likes New York.(And the statue has french origins if i am not mistaken!)




I am not going to vote for yes or no, because I am undecided and at the moment there are not any new logo ideas to replace it. Hence my "not sure" vote.
But, as an idea for consideration, I want to say that with a few changes we could have a new logo based in the traditional one.
With a different background colour, or adding shadows or 3d effect to the flags so they have more "depth" and look more live, ondulating them instead of being "rigid" like the actuals...
Or even replacing the torch for another icon, or improving the actual one...
I don't know, i will vote for not sure and will leave the final decision to older members:D

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

I like the fact that there is something representative of New York in the logo since Alizée likes New York.(And the statue has french origins if i am not mistaken!)

I am not going to vote for yes or no, because I am undecided and at the moment there are not any new logo ideas to replace it. Hence my "not sure" vote.


I've got new logo ideas coming out my ears!!!!! I will post up some suggestions when I get home. You already hit one of my ideas on the head!!!! I love the NY statue of liberty French alliance symbolism as well. I think I know just how yo jazz it up! I also like the flags but think the current ones are too straight and plain...

I don't think the logo will entirely go away but it will morph into something current and trendy if it ever changes... but we'll see.

I will work on some suggestions when I get home. I am still at work right now. I encourage everyone to get involved and post up suggestions as well. The more suggestions we have the better as they may lead to ideas that make up the final product!

[User22]

Post all the images you can TDA :D I wants to see since you do such good work :D

[rj.bagby]

I would give up my logo flag if you wanted to use it. It shows it's America and in the star field it shows there are many stars big and small, but only one stands out and it's Alizee with the old "A"

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

I would give up my logo flag if you wanted to use it. It shows it's America and in the star field it shows there are many stars big and small, but only one stands out and it's Alizee with the old "A"

thanks RJ... one thing though, if it weren't for the stripes, I would have guessed it were an Australian Flag.

[BrianO1]

If you want to incorporate the statue of liberty in there, you could do something as simple as coloring her robes to look like the French flag. Would be simple, and show both a. Symbol for America, and France.


Also keep Corsica in mind when coming up with ideas. Things like their flag, the island shape itself, stuff like that. If you are looking for something that well catch Lili's eye, and leave an impression with her, including her home would help with that quite a bit.

[Scruffydog777]

As I mentioned before, I'd like to see the two flags stay, mainly because it looks good. I think the torch should go. What I'd like to see is maybe an oval map of the world like the one I'm posting here, above the two flags, with the countries highlighted where we have members. It wouldn't show some smaller countries well, but it would do a better job of showing we have members from all over. I certainly wouldn't use the colors in this map, but something more color co-ordinated with what we have in it.

Maybe in the lower corners we could have the Eiffel tower on one side and the Statue of Liberty in the other and lastly it be good if we good fit in the Moor's head from the Corsican flag. These are just some rough thoughts.
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[user472884]

We have a twitter account?

[awkward Turtle]

I really dislike the torch as well.

How about we do something like just the stylized Alizée signature but change it so the first half is colored like the American flag and the second like the French flag, or vice versa.

[user472884]

I really dislike the torch as well.

How about we do something like just the stylized Alizée signature but change it so the first half is colored like the American flag and the second like the French flag, or vice versa.

Still looks kinda boring if you ask me

http://i44.tinypic.com/5dsyt4.png

[SpanishFan]

As I mentioned before, I'd like to see the two flags stay, mainly because it looks good. I think the torch should go. What I'd like to see is maybe an oval map of the world like the one I'm posting here, above the two flags, with the countries highlighted where we have members. It wouldn't show some smaller countries well, but it would do a better job of showing we have members from all over. I certainly wouldn't use the colors in this map, but something more color co-ordinated with what we have in it.

Maybe in the lower corners we could have the Eiffel tower on one side and the Statue of Liberty in the other and lastly it be good if we good fit in the Moor's head from the Corsican flag. These are just some rough thoughts.
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My only concern would be that maybe with that kind of map, people could relate that logo to Alizée-World instead of Alizée America...:13:
I like the Corsican flag idea. And I am sure she would like that.
I won't say anything else about that because i don't want to be misunderstood, talk about politics, or cause offence to the french members of the forum!

[Karin]

easily... why dont use that pic which is used on AA FBsite? it looks good and have both... Alizée as symbol, and US symbol - flag :)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277023_275686022454236_1621988638_n.jpg

[User22]

easily... why dont use that pic which is used on AA FBsite? it looks good and have both... Alizée as symbol, and US symbol - flag :)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277023_275686022454236_1621988638_n.jpg

Agreed. We just use the upper half of it :)

[Rev]

easily... why dont use that pic which is used on AA FBsite? it looks good and have both... Alizée as symbol, and US symbol - flag :)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277023_275686022454236_1621988638_n.jpg

I LIKE this one. :)

[SpanishFan]

That could be a good avatar, but does not even qualify as a logo.
I would not put any image of Alizée on a logo, just her name. With putting just her name in the logo, we are implying that our support is timeless.
If we put an image of her, someone can think subconciously that we have favoritism for one era of her career. Besides we will get tired of watching the same image of her after a year...
Am I making any sense? Sometimes I confuse myself:p

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

I can modify that FB one if everyone likes it... I save all my work in the original PDF layered format in case I ever want to make changes.

btw, sorry for my absence... between school and work I haven't had much time to get online, let alone sit down and do my bills... I will have time to put up some ideas this weekend though.

[Fall]

easily... why dont use that pic which is used on AA FBsite? it looks good and have both... Alizée as symbol, and US symbol - flag :)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277023_275686022454236_1621988638_n.jpg

Agreed, if we do end up changing it, I vote that this image be the replacement. :)

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

Sorry for the huge delay everyone... school and work has been kicking my a$$!!!

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

Check this out... I made another logo! ... what do ya think? I think a smaller version of this one would be much more suitable for a twitter logo! It can also double as an alternate FB logo. Although it doesn't look like much, I honestly spent a long time thinking it over because I wanted to make sure I thought up something that keeps the AAm brand of being American but also Alizée fans and yet add something that has France in it too and shows that we are friends and allies!... and I wanted to incorporate all of that while keeping the logo simplified... something that can easily be transferable or embroidered to clothing and other merchandise (if it ever gets that far).

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/mobx777/a_america_twitter_logo1.gif

[Rev]

How about "Alizée and America,perfect together!" :)


(Who knows where that expression came from?)

[Lucas]

Check this out... I made another logo! ... what do ya think? I think a smaller version of this one would be much more suitable for a twitter logo! It can also double as an alternate FB logo. Although it doesn't look like much, I honestly spent a long time thinking it over because I wanted to make sure I thought up something that keeps the AAm brand of being American but also Alizée fans and yet add something that has France in it too and shows that we are friends and allies!... and I wanted to incorporate all of that while keeping the logo simplified... something that can easily be transferable or embroidered to clothing and other merchandise (if it ever gets that far).

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/mobx777/a_america_twitter_logo1.gif

well... I would change that Psyche "A"

[User22]

Check this out... I made another logo! ... what do ya think? I think a smaller version of this one would be much more suitable for a twitter logo! It can also double as an alternate FB logo. Although it doesn't look like much, I honestly spent a long time thinking it over because I wanted to make sure I thought up something that keeps the AAm brand of being American but also Alizée fans and yet add something that has France in it too and shows that we are friends and allies!... and I wanted to incorporate all of that while keeping the logo simplified... something that can easily be transferable or embroidered to clothing and other merchandise (if it ever gets that far).

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/mobx777/a_america_twitter_logo1.gif

Awesome logo taxi! Could you possibly provide me with the biggest size you can export it in?

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

Awesome logo taxi! Could you possibly provide me with the biggest size you can export it in?

Always wanting it bigger! typical!... lol!...

[Fall]

There doesn't seem to be another, more appropriate thread on AAm's twitter so I guess I could share this here as well. A while ago I noticed our twitter is featured on one of the screenshots for this Alizée app on the Play Store. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a18571508351b6e724e6aa34a.a21153477 a) It doesn't seem to be any good. I occasionally check to see what Alizée related apps are there. There's a lyrics one that seems alright, it has all her albums so far. But I wouldn't try downloading it :p

https://lh3.ggpht.com/_QZc5G-Tx_ZoxywrIB6EKGTrHgYhGLwSRGbWIsgWAMADp3a6BlmttjJTi ENKN7dj_wg=h900-rw

But to stay on the thread's topic, what happened to changing the Twitter logo? The one TDA made is nice, and it doesn't have to be that big anyway if it's just going to be a thumbnail to everyone.

[MelleValetta]

The logo is not bad, but a renovation would be good for the forum. My proposal is to change the flags for some silhouettes of Alizée, for example those in ACDLA
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Edit:

I made this sketch for the new avatar for AA twitter

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c665e05d5522086e0814cc8ab58760d/tumblr_mwxn84ln001rwuyteo1_400.jpg

[Wizard]

If you want to incorporate the statue of liberty in there, you could do something as simple as coloring her robes to look like the French flag. Would be simple, and show both a. Symbol for America, and France.


Also keep Corsica in mind when coming up with ideas. Things like their flag, the island shape itself, stuff like that. If you are looking for something that well catch Lili's eye, and leave an impression with her, including her home would help with that quite a bit.

I like the idea of changing the logo, but keeping both flags. Having the Statue of Liberty I think is important as well, because it reinforces the French-American alliance. I also like Brian's suggestion of including Corsica in the logo- that should really cause her to notice!

[Fall]

The logo is not bad, but a renovation would be good for the forum. My proposal is to change the flags for some silhouettes of Alizée, for example those in ACDLA
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Edit:

I made this sketch for the new avatar for AA twitter

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c665e05d5522086e0814cc8ab58760d/tumblr_mwxn84ln001rwuyteo1_400.jpg
That looks good to me :13:

I like the idea of changing the logo, but keeping both flags. Having the Statue of Liberty I think is important as well, because it reinforces the French-American alliance. I also like Brian's suggestion of including Corsica in the logo- that should really cause her to notice!

I think we could keep the flags' colors but I don't know about having actual flags on there anymore. The Statue Of Liberty and the Moor's Head from the Corsican flag (or the island itself) are good ones too :)

[Merci Alizée]

The one posted by MelleValetta looks good, but it probably needs little bit of finishing touch and resizing.

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c665e05d5522086e0814cc8ab58760d/tumblr_mwxn84ln001rwuyteo1_400.jpg

That looks pretty bad ass!! ... :bow:

I think if you put the Aam Logo closer to Alizée and a bit higher then it will be better.. you need to squish it in closer to her face so that the logo can still be seen when it is sized smaller for icons.

I like the idea of changing the logo, but keeping both flags. Having the Statue of Liberty I think is important as well, because it reinforces the French-American alliance. I also like Brian's suggestion of including Corsica in the logo- that should really cause her to notice!

I think we can put wavy American and French flags behind the statute of liberty, but it may make it a bit too busy. perhaps an outline of Corsica in the background might suffice? :13:

[MelleValetta]

Well .... if you want... I can share the render and the font to create your own versions ... and I'll upload other versions pleasing Fall06 and Taxi Driver Aaron

[Fall]

The one posted by MelleValetta looks good, but it probably needs little bit of finishing touch and resizing.
I like it the way it is, though it wouldn't hurt to add/change a few things.

Well .... if you want... I can share the render and the font to create your own versions ... and I'll upload other versions pleasing Fall06 and Taxi Driver Aaron

Personally I'm already pleased with it, but go ahead and try any other ideas you might have. :)

[MelleValetta]

Personally I'm already pleased with it, but go ahead and try any other ideas you might have. :)


My suggestion would be to do something similar, but changing the colors, for example red (in the same tone he used the forum) or the USA/FRANCE flag (such as are the same)...
Ok, when its determined (between position, flags and all that) send me a list with everything, detailed

[Fall]

- Keeping both flags/wavy flags/behind the Statue
- Statue Of Liberty
- Corsica (outline)
- Keeping flag colors
- Moor's Head
- Resizing
- Move around AAm logo


Those are some of the suggestions offered so far. Any more comments, concerns or suggestions?

While we're at this business of changing the AAm home page cover (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7693) and the twitter logo, why not change the background as well? The current one is cool and all but it's dark and only shows up in the upper left hand corner :/ I'd also like to mention, in case people haven't noticed, that LaCandida95 has been making the covers on our facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/AlizeeAmerica) and they're awesome.