How to Buy the Alizée En Concert DVD

[brad]

If you want to buy Alizée's DVD, the easiest and most reliable way is to use Amazon.fr (the French Amazon website). I made a quick how-to on how to order it if you are worried about the language problem.

Step 1 ------------------------------------------------

Make an Amazon account, you can use Amazon.com if you want to. The login information will still work on Amazon.fr (if you aready have an amazon account you can skip this step).

>> Click here to make an account on Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/gp/flex/sign-in/select.html/002-9758384-1286437?ie=UTF8&protocol=https)

Step 2 ------------------------------------------------

Now you are ready to order the DVD. In this example I am using the '1 click ordering' method for simplicity. So be sure you really want to order it before going forward.

>> Go to the Alizée En Concert DVD at Amazon.fr (http://www.amazon.fr/Aliz%C3%A9e-en-concert/dp/B0002VYECW/sr=11-1/qid=1163395071/ref=sr_11_1/402-8338561-6588951)

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YOUR DVD IS ON THE WAY

[Spartan500]

Thanks brad I was wondering how to do this hey can you use something besides a credit card?

[brad]

I think you can use a checking account .. maybe?

I haven't tried it that way though.

[Spartan500]

thanks I'm gonna order one by friday along with some cds i cant wait, it will be a mini christmas lol

[NANAKI]

excellent now all I have to do is open a checking acount

[maareek]

You have to use a credit card or bank card to order from amazon.fr. Unless you live in France or Monaco, which if you need instructions on how to order from there I would assume you don't. ;/

I went to order it awhile back and found out I had to use a bank card...so I'm still waiting for the damn thing to come in the mail.

[brad]

thanks maareek.

guess you have to have a credit / debit card. If you have a checking account, you should have a debit card.

[RadioactiveMan]

I'm trying to order it through my bank and hopefully I don't (or didn't) screw everything up.

Edit: In the interest of not having Amazon come to my house and kidnap me, I cancelled the order. I'm going to go to the bank and get my information and then I'll order it again since that process will me much simpler.

[Twitch]

That should help out a lot of people brad, great job. I know some people who actually tried going to Amazon.ca (http://www.amazon.ca/) and go through the ordering steps because you could load the pages in French or English, and they would use it to more or less help translate the Amazon.fr pages because the process is the same. :) But as far as I know once you choose a language at the start of the checkout procedure, it remains in that language.

[Ben]

A way to make this easier is to not only make an account on the English Amazon.com, but to also enter and save all your information - address, credit card, etc. - there too. The information is carried over to Amazon.fr, so when you go there all you have to do is log in and then click a few buttons.

[RMJ]

Yes... It's TOO easy ! I have spent way too much ordering from net cause it's so easy. :p

[Ben]

This is true. One-click ordering is evil... or brilliant, if you work for amazon. :D

[neoteny]

im buying it tomorrow. finally...

[maareek]

My En Concert CD should be arriving tomorrow. I'm pretty thrilled.

Still anxiously awaiting my debit card to arrive so I can order the DVD though. T_T

[maareek]

asdf

So I got my debit card in today so I load up amazon.fr and was going to order the DVD. I had checked on it the other day and even though it was out of stock it said it would ship in 5 to 8 days. I check back today and see: "Habituellement expédié sous 4 à 6 semaines. Expédié et vendu par Amazon.fr." Four to six weeks?! halp :( Pretty sure I'm not going to make it that long. :(

[Senshi87]

where are u from maareek?

[maareek]

I'm from the USA, Florida to be specific.

[aFrenchie]

Four to six weeks?! halp :( Pretty sure I'm not going to make it that long. :(
If you don't mind ordering in France, you can try Fnac.com. They announce 2 to 4 days to France, + 1 to 2 days to the USA. DVD link (http://www4.fnac.com/Shelf/article.aspx?PRID=1586328&OrderInSession=1&Mn=1&SID=365995a1-2bf9-6fd8-7d15-2de56d8827e9&TTL=171120062056&Origin=FnacAff&Ra=-3&To=0&Nu=1&UID=04e6069ee-109f-add2-b8d7-a7ed4f60495a&Fr=0), (for the USA, see "Etats-Unis, Canada" in this table (http://www.fnac.com/help/A06-15.asp?NID=%2D11&RNID=%2D11&SID=365995a1%2D2bf9%2D6fd8%2D7d15%2D2de56d8827e9&Origin=FnacAff&OrderInSession=1&UID=04E6069EE%2D109F%2DADD2%2DB8D7%2DA7ED4F60495A&TTL=171120062101))

[maareek]

Merci Bien! You fucking rule man. :)

[ramennoodles]

just to let everyone know, if your in the US you can order the dvd from amazon.com, I ordered one from there. they listed it as a audio cd but it's actually a dvd. It says 4 to 7 weeks for delivery but I got it in less than 2 weeks. It is a region free PAL format dvd. here is the link to it:

http://www.amazon.com/En-Concert-Alizee/dp/B0006BLIYA/sr=8-9/qid=1163735392/ref=pd_bbs_sr_9/103-4192773-1078241?ie=UTF8&s=music

[riva2model64]

one-click ordering is not so easy when you have to ask you mom to borrow her credit card so you can buy something online with paychecks you haven't yet cashed just laying about the house somewher. .

[guldebrett]

Thanks. I love that DVD.

[RMJ]

one-click ordering is not so easy when you have to ask you mom to borrow her credit card so you can buy something online with paychecks you haven't yet cashed just laying about the house somewher. .

Like said, you only need to ask once... Amazon can remember the cc number. :p

[aFrenchie]

Merci Bien! You fucking rule man. :)
You've ordered it already? No problem with the site in French?

[maareek]

You've ordered it already? No problem with the site in French?

Yeah I had it ordered within a few minutes after you gave me the link. Between the French I know and using my old books from class and using an online translator I was able to breeze through it pretty easily. Thanks again. :)

[LiliFan788]

just to let everyone know, if your in the US you can order the dvd from amazon.com, I ordered one from there. they listed it as a audio cd but it's actually a dvd. It says 4 to 7 weeks for delivery but I got it in less than 2 weeks. It is a region free PAL format dvd. here is the link to it:

http://www.amazon.com/En-Concert-Alizee/dp/B0006BLIYA/sr=8-9/qid=1163735392/ref=pd_bbs_sr_9/103-4192773-1078241?ie=UTF8&s=music

I just ordered this in the American Amazon.com website. I've ordered all three Alizee albums from this site and it was great service. But here's my one question: why is this recognized as an audio CD on their site as opposed to DVD?

[maareek]

Oh wow, a big thanks to you again, aFrenchie. I've already received my DVD, it shipped in one day. O_O

[brad]

I just received the DVD that I ordered while making this how-to. took about 8-10 days.

[aFrenchie]

Oh wow, a big thanks to you again, aFrenchie. I've already received my DVD, it shipped in one day. O_O
You got it already?? That was fast! :)

[CFHollister]

Is the DVD available in Region 1?
If so, how does one specify that when ordering?
If not, how are all the American members watching this DVD?

[brad]

Is the DVD available in Region 1?
If so, how does one specify that when ordering?
If not, how are all the American members watching this DVD?

it is a PAL disc, and doesnt have any region codes on it. If your DVD player will play PAL discs you are good to go.

[CFHollister]

Wow! That was a fast reply. I was just returning to edit my post saying I'd found the answer in the FAQ.

[LiliFan788]

My copy of the Alizée En Concert DVD just arrived in the mail today. It doesn't play on my PS2, but it does play on my computer.

[Spartan500]

so it's the dvd and not a cd lilifan? man im gonna order it soon i hope

[brad]

so it's the dvd and not a cd lilifan? man im gonna order it soon i hope

it is a DVD .. very good quality, and AMAZING :D

[bt_bird_90]

I finally ripped my dvd audio and tried to put it all on a CD, but I think it comes out as about 2 minutes too long to fit on a 80min 700mb cd, the thought of leaving out a song kills me, and 2 cd's would be a pain. Any simple tips or suggestions for squeezing that last track on there?

[HibyPrime]

I finally ripped my dvd audio and tried to put it all on a CD, but I think it comes out as about 2 minutes too long to fit on a 80min 700mb cd, the thought of leaving out a song kills me, and 2 cd's would be a pain. Any simple tips or suggestions for squeezing that last track on there?

Haha.. You ripped the audio off the DVD did you?

:rolleyes:

[CFHollister]

Even if they're not French, having good European friends certainly comes with perks :) I have a good German friend from Saarbrucken (right on the French border), although she now lives in Karlsruhe... and I'm getting the Alizee en Concert DVD from her for Christmas... sweet!:D

[guldebrett]

I finally ripped my dvd audio and tried to put it all on a CD, but I think it comes out as about 2 minutes too long to fit on a 80min 700mb cd, the thought of leaving out a song kills me, and 2 cd's would be a pain. Any simple tips or suggestions for squeezing that last track on there?

Haha.. You ripped the audio off the DVD did you?

:rolleyes:

I did the same thing but for only a few songs. Some of the live versions are better than the retail copies; Hey Amigo & J.B.G being among them. Did you rip each track individually? or did you rip the soundtrack as one long track? If you ripped them individually then there's probably nothing else you can do. If you ripped the entire DVD as a single track then you can edit the tracks and shorten the audience interaction and make them individual edits by using something like Adobe Audition. Of course, you can always buy the retail CD of the concert which will end your dilemma.

[lefty12357]

I just received my Alizée en Concert DVD today. I bought it on eBay from a guy in Canada. He said it was Region 1 and would play in all USA/CA players. Well, it says Region 0 on the box, but it played just fine. There was Alizée, bigger than life on my 46" screen! If anyone out there doubts how good this DVD is, or hasn't purchased one yet, do it now! Her performance is amazing. Mine has 2 extra DVD's. One has about an hour's worth of Alizée's music videos and the other has about an hour of TV appearances. Is that what everybody else got?

[RMJ]

I just received my Alizée en Concert DVD today. I bought it on eBay from a guy in Canada. He said it was Region 1 and would play in all USA/CA players. Well, it says Region 0 on the box, but it played just fine.

Yeah, all the Alizée En Concert DVDs are region free (aka region 0). So they will play anywhere in the world, as long as you DVD player can understand PAL format.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

So they can play at pc right?

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

Oh forget it what a dumb question

[c-dawg777]

Easy way to play the dvd is on a gaming console. Since they are designed to read all different formats of discs. Also a cheap way to get the dvd is always ebay. There are about ten of the concert dvd's and cd's going out per day. I bought both my dvd's for $16.00 (shipping included) apiece and yes they're brand new.

[aliquis_venum]

People, I need clarification.:blink: Again, I was browsing youtube.com for Alizee's music when I chance upon this comments -

Silencers1313 (2 months ago)
nice abs

pyramiddj1 (2 months ago)
Yes, I agree, I would have nice abs too if I was dancing since age 3!! lol I wonder since she's hatched her kid, they are still tite

Nap1972 (9 hours ago)
What do you mean "since she hatched her kid"? Did you mean she got pregnant and gave birth to a child?

pyramiddj1 (9 hours ago)
Yes, exacto! It's just silly USA humour! Hatch is what chickens do! LOL

Based on the comment though it is just a rumor. But I can't help thinking she have been gone for almost 32 months since May 22, 2004 and no one knows exactly the reason for her disappearance . :confused: Was she involved with someone or in a relationship during her disappearance? Could it be possible she was pregnant? :eek: Also during her so called disappearance, did she made any public appearances in any show in France or outside? Is there photos of her made during her disappearance? Because for me, disappearance means no public appearance at all or no pictures in any newspaper tabloids. And also very few valid news about the person who disappear. Especially in the stature of Alizee, who is very famous and have so many fans all over the world that are waiting for her much awaited comeback. It is impossible that until now, they don't know what the reason why she was gone for a long time. :(

[DJ_Greg]

Yes, she did have a child. She is married too. You, sir, have a lot of reading to do! I suggest wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliz%C3%A9e)to start.

It's OK, though. We'll catch you up. ;)

[CFHollister]

Woah there, aliquis_venum. It will all be OK; breathe (and bring that text back to normal proportions, please). Wikipedia, Alizée's interviews, and the nice people here will be able to answer all your questions (that are within public knowledge) in due time. :cool:

[bt_bird_90]

A thread titled "Alizee a Mother (http://moi-alizee.us/forums/showthread.php?t=1040)" a few inches down the page didn't arouse the slightest suspicion?

[lowbeam]

Sorry if this info is already out there but I just want to let any other newbies know.

I ordered the Alizée En Concert DVD from Amazon (US) on January 23, 2007. Received it today February 5, 2007. It was supposed to take 4 to 6 weeks. Amazon calls it an audio CD for $15.99 (usd) but it is a DVD in PAL format. My $400 Sony DVD player/recorder won't play it but my $80 Philips DVP642 has no problem at all.

If you do not own this, I encourage you to purchase. I watched her TV performances and they are certainly wonderful, but Alizée in concert is so far beyond wonderful I cannot express it.

[RMJ]

Usually you can unlock those more expensive players.

My primary DVD player was originally also region locked (as is required by certain big organizations) but I unlocked it by updating firmware. Now I can select from menu which region it is or simply let it be 100% region free.

Cheaper one wasn't region locked since it's made by company who doesn't give a shit what big organization might think of it.

[madraven]

Yeah, I downloaded it too. But I really want to buy it. I don't have a credit card, only PayPal, but unfortunately amazon doesn't accept PayPal :( . Does anybody know any reputable sellers on eBay? or perhaps another location that I could purchase a copy? Thanks.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

Well i need to go to Mexico to purchase my En Concert DVD and Cd as well.

[aFrenchie]

Nobody else tried Fnac.com? I gave that link in page 2:
http://www.moi-alizee.us/forums/showthread.php?p=16988#post16988
and maareek got it in only 5 days from France.

[RadioactiveMan]

Yeah, I downloaded it too. But I really want to buy it. I don't have a credit card, only PayPal, but unfortunately amazon doesn't accept PayPal :( . Does anybody know any reputable sellers on eBay? or perhaps another location that I could purchase a copy? Thanks.

You might be able to order it from a store. I ordered mine from HMV, but they're evidently a bunch of lazy bastards. Either that or they're using the Canadian postal service to get it to me (a viable option considering my locale) because it's been ages and ages and I still don't have it.

[c-dawg777]

Yeah, I downloaded it too. But I really want to buy it. I don't have a credit card, only PayPal, but unfortunately amazon doesn't accept PayPal :( . Does anybody know any reputable sellers on eBay? or perhaps another location that I could purchase a copy? Thanks.

All depends, do you want the German version, or the French version? The only difference between the two is the case it comes in... German one is in the plastic dvd case and the French is in the cardboard one.

[madraven]

All depends, do you want the German version, or the French version? The only difference between the two is the case it comes in... German one is in the plastic dvd case and the French is in the cardboard one.

It really doesn't matter, however, given the choice I'd prefer a plastic case to a cardboard one.

[madraven]

You might be able to order it from a store. I ordered mine from HMV, but they're evidently a bunch of lazy bastards. Either that or they're using the Canadian postal service to get it to me (a viable option considering my locale) because it's been ages and ages and I still don't have it.

Thanks for the suggestion, however it seems that HMV is associated closely with amazon and they only accept credit cards. Maybe I need to get a credit card, just to buy this DVD :p

[c-dawg777]

Well, there are several choices on ebay. Just a few things if youre not used to dealing with ebay... make sure they have lots of positive feedback, steer clear of countries notorious for pirating (ex. china), always read the fine print! And, finally, make sure the shipping charges aren't ridiculous like $90.00 for instance... these are just the most common scams. However if you use Paypal, you are assured your money back if anything is not as it says on the item description. That having been said, here are a couple buy it nows on ebay that sound more trust worthy than others... hope it helps:D Another tip.... for some reason all the overseas orders that I place, arrive quicker than my domestic ones.:blink:

This one looks like it's the actual French version.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Alizee-En-Concert-new-DVD_W0QQitemZ260083235094QQihZ016QQcategoryZ617QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem


This one is the German version, but its in Canada so shipping is pretty cheap, but the dvd is more expensive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALIZEE-EN-CONCERT-2004-DVD_W0QQitemZ140083045492QQihZ004QQcategoryZ617QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/Alizee-En-concert-DVD-2004_W0QQitemZ200075779899QQihZ010QQcategoryZ617QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[lefty12357]

This one is the German version, but its in Canada so shipping is pretty cheap, but the dvd is more expensive.
[URL="http://cgi.ebay.com/ALIZEE-EN-CONCERT-2004-DVD_W0QQitemZ140083045492QQihZ004QQcategoryZ617QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]

This is the DVD I bought. There are three discs; the concert, TV appearances, and promotional videos. The discs don't look like factory made discs to me and no booklet came with it. I just received another Concert DVD that I ordered from Amazon.fr and it came with one Disc and a booklet.

[RMJ]

This one is the German version, but its in Canada so shipping is pretty cheap, but the dvd is more expensive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALIZEE-EN-CONCERT-2004-DVD_W0QQitemZ140083045492QQihZ004QQcategoryZ617QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is clear FAKE.

DO NOT BUY IT.




This one looks like it's the actual French version.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Alizee-En-Concert-new-DVD_W0QQitemZ260083235094QQihZ016QQcategoryZ617QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'd think twice before buying from this guy. Says he sells new DVDs but still says every package has been opened. And since it's comes from eastern Europe... And look at the prices in his store... :rolleyes:

Quite definitely FAKE.

DO NOT BUY IT.




http://cgi.ebay.com/Alizee-En-concert-DVD-2004_W0QQitemZ200075779899QQihZ010QQcategoryZ617QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Look at the prices at this shop. NO-ONE would sell few months olds, brand new, CDs and DVDs at those prices. For example Iron Maiden's newest CD, 3.99 dollars.

FAKE

DO NOT BUY IT.






If you want to buy the DVD from eBay, buy it from individual seller that has provided photograph of that DVD.

In all those 3, the "photo of dvd" is just searched from google or something and does not represent the real product...

[lefty12357]

As a followup to my previous post, I would have to agree with RMJ. The one I bought from Canada is an illegal copy. The discs are DVD-R's. He said that they were coded for region 1, USA and CA. They do work in my DVD player, but the REAL disc from Amazon.fr does NOT. This is further proof. I believe the REAL disc were all PAL discs. None of the money you send this guy ever gets back to Alizée or any of the people who worked to create this wonderful concert.

Edit: The reason I bought the second disc from Amazon.fr was that I realized the first was an illegal copy, and I wanted to do the right thing and see that the right people got my money.

[c-dawg777]

I'd think twice before buying from this guy. Says he sells new DVDs but still says every package has been opened. And since it's comes from eastern Europe... And look at the prices in his store... :rolleyes:


So you don't trust Lithuanians, do you?:eek: Don't let Amelie hear that, and, that would fall under my section of which countries do you trust, and read the fine print... Did you ever take into consideration that countries can be cheaper due to lower economy's. I have bought brand new cd's for $5.00, it all just depends on who you trust. That is why you read some of the feedback instead of the ones that say fast shipping, read the ones that tell what the product is or its condition. If you do get a fake you can return it and get your money back from paypal, and you can report the seller to ebay and they will remove the seller from any further posts.

[RMJ]

So you don't trust Lithuanians, do you?:eek:
In DVD and CD business ? No, I don't. Neither do I trust any old Soviet Union country in that business. They are well known of their forgeries. As well as China is and couple other Asian countries.


Did you ever take into consideration that countries can be cheaper due to lower economy's. I have bought brand new cd's for $5.00, it all just depends on who you trust.
Indeed I did. And that's one of the main factor to tell that it's forgery. You see, En Concert DVD was never released in Lithuania. If it were, you might have gotten it little bit cheaper but since it wasn't, you'd have to import it. And cheapest place where to get it is Western Europe where it's price is roughly 20 euros, usually bit more.

Now, lets think about this. Lithuanian store imports bunch of DVD that costs it atleast 20 euros (without shipping and logistic costs), and then puts them on sale at 7 euros. Good business, huh ? I expect long life for this store !


That is why you read some of the feedback instead of the ones that say fast shipping, read the ones that tell what the product is or its condition. If you do get a fake you can return it and get your money back from paypal, and you can report the seller to ebay and they will remove the seller from any further posts.
Yes, in perfect world it works like this.

But since 90% people don't even know that forgeries might exists and 90% of the rest who happens to know don't care about it or couldn't even tell if you got fake one. (some of them are very professionally made)

And if you manage to get that far that report eBay about them and they removes the account, they will just create new account and continues on their career.



That's why I said to buy from individual buyer if you want to get the DVD from eBay. They aren't usually there just to make money but to get rid off the stuff they don't need anymore. And they are quite often happy to provide you photos or anything you might ask about the item.

[madraven]

Good call RMJ! :D When I contacted one of the sellers you said was a fake, to see where he shipped to, he said he could only ship it to me if I could play DVD-R discs. :p

I did find this store on eBay.fr that says they have a copy of it: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260061141379&rd=1&rd=1

Just thought I would ask your opinion before blowing money on a possible rip-off. Thanks! :)

[RMJ]

Well, it looks more legit but of course can't be sure (and I didn't look too carefully his other items, but he had some items which faking wouldn't be profitable since they are rarely sold anyways).

Of course asking him something simple like if it works on Region 1 player might give you an idea if it's really real deal (tho, even the real DVD does work on region 1 player (if it can play PAL standard), so it isn't fool proof evidence. But it may trick him to say something you want to know.)

[Roman]

Amazon.fr is now offering a set of both Gourmandises & Mes Courants Électriques that can be purchased along with the Concert DVD. Here are the prices together with delivery to the US (that's actually a total of about $61 (I think)):
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Alizée; CD audio; EUR 17,47

Vendu par : Amazon.fr

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Alizée; DVD; EUR 16,70

Vendu par : Amazon.fr

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It's one of those things where if you look up the DVD and scroll down it will say, hey, while you're at it, get this along with the other for such and such a price with the implication of a probable reduction in price. The listed prices were actually a little more than what I have listed here. I guess I got a discount after all. Of course EUR 12,80 for shipping is not insignificant. All and all I think it's a pretty reasonable price for these items considering the alternative is piracy really. I already have all these materials gathered for "free" from one eyed, peg legged, parot toting fellers on the internet, but I think I can't really call myself a fan until I've at least legitimately purchased the main materials produced in the normal manner for such as we. I still don't know why the heck I can't purchase these same exact products from an English language version of Amazon. No matter, I'll find out in a few weeks if I clicked the right buttons (didn't bother using this thread's suggestions. I think it was pretty apparent what I was doing. :hopeful dumb smile: )


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[brad]

nice find Roman, thanks. I'm sure you ordered it correctly, it isn't very complicated :)

[bt_bird_90]

great, I've never seen that jumbled version before, if anyone can vouch for it's authenticity, I'll get onto ordering

[Sir Wood]

"Coffret 2 CD : Gourmandises / Mes courants électriques"
I saw this a while back, think you can post some pics of the contents once you get it?

[RMJ]

I saw this a while back, think you can post some pics of the contents once you get it?

It's normal French release CDs of Gourmandises and MCE with extra cover.

Couple photos (dunno where the Gourm CD is. Somewhere here in room I guess :blink: ) :


http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5027/double1qw9.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1228/double2nx2.jpg

[Sir Wood]

It's normal French release CDs of Gourmandises and MCE with extra cover.

Couple photos (dunno where the Gourm CD is. Somewhere here in room I guess :blink: )
Are they postcard photos or just extra photos in the covers themselves? Thanks for the pic!

[RMJ]

Are they postcard photos or just extra photos in the covers themselves? Thanks for the pic!
Uh... I just meant those couple photos that I took of the package and showed in the post... :blink:

It does not have anything extra. Just French release of Gourmandises and French release of MCE. And that's it.

[madraven]

Thanks for the all the advice, I got my En Concert DVD in the mail today. :D
Unfortunately, I have a midterm to study for, for tomorrow so I can't watch it tonight. :(

[Moe]

It's normal French release CDs of Gourmandises and MCE with extra cover.

Couple photos (dunno where the Gourm CD is. Somewhere here in room I guess :blink: ) :


http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5027/double1qw9.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1228/double2nx2.jpg

Here is a pic with Gourmandises :D ( I just wanna post me pic )

http://uaehitman.com/monpics/moealbums.jpg

[Roman]

grâce à tous
Show off the merchandise!

[WyomingGrizFan]

About the 'Alizee en concert,' does anyone know where it was primarily held. Then again, I've heard that it is a compilation of a number of concerts on one DVD. Like in one place being called the 'Olympiad' sometime like in August 2004? Just wondering about the particulars. Such information enlivens and enriches the experience of being only 'merely' able to view the concert as a DVD that is in place of actually being present; but second best would have to do I guess. Sigh. Thanx for whatever help.

[brad]

yeah it is from different concerts. i think RMJ said it was primarily Olympia and Zenith.

i *think* olympia was the first concert, and zenith was the last one. you can also see her wedding ring in some parts, and then in others it is missing.

[Roman]

Show off the merchandise!OK, now I have my own merchandise to show off. See my gallery
http://moi-alizee.us/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=6214 (just photos of the DVD and CDs)

[paleddy62]

Nice collection all. I only have a few official items, plus all the stuff from downloading. Although I have no pics yet...till I return home for vacation, the only official stuff I have are the following:

Internaional and French releases of Alizee En Concert
Alizee En Concert 2003 Tour Book
Alizee En Concert Poster
Alizee CD's 3 (Gourmandises, Mes Courants Electriques and Alizee En Concert)
3 magazines: all are named Alizee/Mylene Farmer Vol. 1, 2 and 7
3 Alizee Posters

BTW, although I have the concert poster and program, I have never seen her in concert or in person. Just wanted to make that clear....hopefully one day.:( :( :(

[Roman]

...BTW, although I have the concert poster and program, I have never seen her in concert or in person. Just wanted to make that clear....hopefully one day.:( :( :(
Yes, I suppose I should get some posters. That would be nice on my office wall (at home of course). Oh yes, an a sticker for my car window. Got to look up that thread again.
As for the concert, keep your eye on the news. I hear Alizée suggested probably a new "single" in June. 2007 baby, come on!:D

[Mendax]

I just thought I'd share with everyone that I got the dvd from here (http://www.dancesound.com/album.asp?item_order=eu2004-0848)
I went with this place since they take money orders. It's the German one in the plastic case and it's definitely not bootleg. It did take 56 days between when I ordered and when I actually got it, but that was probably just 'cause they were out of stock when I ordered.

[paleddy62]

I just thought I'd share with everyone that I got the dvd from here (http://www.dancesound.com/album.asp?item_order=eu2004-0848)
I went with this place since they take money orders. It's the German one in the plastic case and it's definitely not bootleg. It did take 56 days between when I ordered and when I actually got it, but that was probably just 'cause they were out of stock when I ordered.


Hey there Mendex,

Welcome and thanks for the information. I am sure it could be of interest to someone. BTW, you might want to recheck the link you provided...doesn't seem to work. Thanks again.

[Ernest]

Thanks for this tread & info, and to your share mendax . . . I want to buy Alizée's DVD . . . I think this is easiest and most reliable way to use how to order. Usually I ordered thru with my friends but it take times . . . anyway thanks . . .to brad

[fsquared]

By the way, if you buy from an amazon.fr reseller, they say "Livraision standard" for their shipping but I think it means something different from amazon.fr's "Livraision standard" (which indicates something like 10-12 days to the US). The reseller I ordered through gave me a 3-4 week estimate, and amazon.fr's order page itself gave me a 4-12 week window when I went back to check on it. It's probably international book rate or sea mail or something.

Amazon.com is the same way; even Super Saver shipping is usually UPS ground or something pretty quick, but standard shipping for resellers is usually Media Mail, which can be pretty darned slow.

[Roman]

...3-4 week estimate, and amazon.fr's order page itself gave me a 4-12 week window ... Media Mail, which can be pretty darned slow.Daaang! I don't really remember how long it took for me--I'm in California--but, I think it was more like 10-12 days. Actually, I may have posted an indication of that in this thread before. Oh well.

[isabella]

thank you for the information!
but i already have her DVD:)
it's nice, i can't stop watching!:D

[fsquared]

Woo hoo hoo, I finally got my DVD today! It only took a solid 4 weeks :p. Actually cultureprix was very prompt, they slammed it in the mail on May 23rd, the day after I ordered it, but they sent it "Economique", which I'm guessing is "sea mail" or something. I'm excited but also a little wary of its purported powers, which have achieved somewhat of a mythical status on the forum. :D
I got a good deal on it (like 10.34 Euros) through them as a reseller on amazon.fr (a little better than on their own site). But I didn't research much as to whether the cultureprix site itself might have faster shipping options.

[Roman]

Woo hoo hoo, I finally got my DVD today!...
Congratulations! You are official. So, now that you've probably watched it already, isn't that awesome how it starts out?!

[Joseph09]

How ı buy the alizée en concert DVD in Turkey?
My credit card not buy amozon.fr

[WyomingGrizFan]

You could try the link below, 'Joseph09,' or anyone else could as well, I guess. It takes PayPal at least which may make it easier to purchase:

http://dvd.search.ebay.com/Alizee-en-concert-DVD_DVDs-Movies_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQsacatZ11232

Happy shopping.

P.S.- Also be mindful about the Regions for the DVD, either NTSC, PAL, etc. Very useful to know.

[Killian]

I'm planning on getting it in Amazon.fr when the new cd comes out. That way I can convince my Dad to buy them as a bundle :).

[espire]

You could try the link below, 'Joseph09,' or anyone else could as well, I guess. It takes PayPal at least which may make it easier to purchase:

http://dvd.search.ebay.com/Alizee-en-concert-DVD_DVDs-Movies_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQsacatZ11232

Happy shopping.

P.S.- Also be mindful about the Regions for the DVD, either NTSC, PAL, etc. Very useful to know.

I'd be more mindful of fakes. The only real versions are either European or Mexican, all others are fake. Even ones that claim to be the real ones could be lying. eBay doesn't usually have this problem, but En Concert is just that anomaly, I guess.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Granted, I've heard of "fake" and "counterfeited" DVDs (bootlegged). I find the following guidlines helpful:

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/HOW-TO-AVOID-BUYING-COUNTERFEIT-DVDs_W0QQugidZ10000000000040987

I haven't had any problems over eBay buying CDs and DVDs from China, Argentina, Canada, the Ukraine, Turkey and Russia even. Such a happening would really be an item that would keep a seller from ever receiving positive feedback from a buyer.

I've bought at least two 'Alizee en concert' DVDs over eBay and both were as advertised; one a PAL and the other NTSC, both factory sealed. No problems whatsoever.

Where I work I meet FBI special agents, U. S. Marshalls, Federal Judges, etc. just about every day and in conversations with them they all agree in being 'very well pleased' with the way eBay cooperates on these matters whenever such a complaint ever surfaces about fraudulent products ever sold over the Internet through their site. Not saying it couldn't and hasn't happened in the past, but when it does happen it is severely dealt with.

[B_M_E]

I bought my copy on ebay for $40. I still haven't gotten it yet though. It also came with 3 extra DVDs and 20 pictures of Alizée. I hope the DVD is authentic.

[fsquared]

Anything that comes with 3 extra DVDs and such, you can guarantee that those things are copies/burns. Doesn't bode all that well for the main disc but cross your fingers.

[Mendax]

Hey there Mendex,

Welcome and thanks for the information. I am sure it could be of interest to someone. BTW, you might want to recheck the link you provided...doesn't seem to work. Thanks again.

Well it works for me, not sure why it wouldn't work for anyone else.

Just do a search on cdimportplus.com to find it.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Was wondering if anyone knows of this site but more in particular the item listed for sale: 'Alizee (en) concert a Nice:'

http://www.cdandlp.com/liste/p_produit.cfm?lng=2&seller=0&what=artiste&srt=12&poch=&bargain=&news=&chunksize=48&currency=5&stringa=&stringt=&5pop_id=&1&pagination_easy_mode=0&n_ref_list=&general_state=&search_mode=2&list_index=&n_ref=110277237&tete=alizee%20cd&fmt=0&categ_rech=0&page=1&alpha=0

...selling for EUR 40.00 in used but excellent condition.

[espire]

but why would you pay €40 for En Concert? You're obviously in the US, so you could do the Amazon way easily. It's €30 including shipping, and brand new. Don't forget that you're guaranteed a genuine copy/satisfaction guaranteed and all that. Why even bother with anything else?

Edit: I see you were looking at the CD version. In that case, you can get the CD on Amazon.ca which would seem like a great choice.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

but why would you pay €40 for En Concert? You're obviously in the US, so you could do the Amazon way easily. It's €30 including shipping, and brand new. Don't forget that you're guaranteed a genuine copy/satisfaction guaranteed and all that. Why even bother with anything else?

Edit: I see you were looking at the CD version. In that case, you can get the CD on Amazon.ca which would seem like a great choice.

Because that concert is in Nice...
The concert we have is from Le'Zenith im guessing....

Ill buy the Amelie Ma'dit cd and if i can ill buy that cd en concert nice later.
Nevermind, ill buy the cd single jeam, Moi lolita remixes, maxi jeam remixes, maxi cd gourmandises remixes.

[Geech]

I got mine for €38 and it was worth ever penny of it. I ripped it to my computer, put it on my ipod, and the dvd lives in DVD player.

[heyamigo]

btw, is there a way to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC on your computer?

[Killian]

btw, is there a way to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC on your computer?

There are plenty of hacks that can change the region code of DVD's. A better way to do it, though, would be to buy a region free DVD player. As this will last a long time and is worth the money.

[espire]

WyomingGrizFan and Zack, that CD is bootleg, Universal Music only produced "Alizée En Concert" with a compilation of performances from several different locations. That CD is either the same thing as the normal one for an extremely elevated price, or you're getting some guy who was wearing a mic, and it'll be awful quality. In short, don't get that one, it's a waste of your money.

If you want the En Concert CD, Amazon.ca is a great way to go. It's about $25 US plus some shipping, but that's significantly less than what you just posted, and it's real.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

WyomingGrizFan and Zack, that CD is bootleg, Universal Music only produced "Alizée En Concert" with a compilation of performances from several different locations. That CD is either the same thing as the normal one for an extremely elevated price, or you're getting some guy who was wearing a mic, and it'll be awful quality. In short, don't get that one, it's a waste of your money.

If you want the En Concert CD, Amazon.ca is a great way to go. It's about $25 US plus some shipping, but that's significantly less than what you just posted, and it's real.

Who cares? as far as i know the all the Asian releases werent official as well...

[espire]

Who cares? as far as i know the all the Asian releases werent official as well...

And that's why you shouldn't buy them. Why would you pay the same amount or extra on a lower quality product where none of the money actually goes to Lili or the people who made it? It doesn't make any sense. The CD on amazon.ca is guaranteed to be equal or better quality, cheaper, and you can trust Amazon. I can't see why you'd possibly go for this "Nice" version, in the same way that it doesn't make sense to buy the Taiwanese version of En Concert.

[WyomingGrizFan]

I think I'd definitely heed your advice on this one, 'espire.' Besides the high price for this CD, 'Alizee en concert a nice,' which has an exchange rate at present of 1 EUR = 1.3826 USD, or 1 USD = .7233 EUR, the price for this would be slightly over $ 55.30.
I have both the 'official' CD and NTSC DVD of 'Alizee en concert' and was but wondering about this one. If Universal Music only put out the 'Alizee en concert' then I'am happy with what I have and would consider this an 'other' type of recording which would most likely not be up to quality standards let alone in allowance of royalties to legitimate parties.

Thanx for your responses.
Good day.

P.S.-The link I provided earlier about 'Alizee en concert a Nice' is the first and only instance that I have seen of this particular item being sold separately, evidently, from the 'official' release by Universal Music. There is no telling of which, if any, musical company is really reponsible for this release. Interesting though.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Here's an interesting item; the only site that I know of that advertises 'Alizee en concert' with a "not for sale to persons under age 6:"

http://www.abella.de/detailanz/produktanzeige.rt?prid=414898

I wish they would have told me sooner; but I still would have bought it anyway.

[Cooney]

Here's an interesting item; the only site that I know of that advertises 'Alizee en concert' with a "not for sale to persons under age 6:"


Heh, those wacky German rating systems! I mean, what if my 5 year old neighbor wants to use his credit card to buy it? Why should he be left out? :D

[Cooney]

Was wondering if anyone knows of this site but more in particular the item listed for sale: 'Alizee (en) concert a Nice:'

http://www.cdandlp.com/liste/p_produit.cfm?lng=2&seller=0&what=artiste&srt=12&poch=&bargain=&news=&chunksize=48&currency=5&stringa=&stringt=&5pop_id=&1&pagination_easy_mode=0&n_ref_list=&general_state=&search_mode=2&list_index=&n_ref=110277237&tete=alizee%20cd&fmt=0&categ_rech=0&page=1&alpha=0

...selling for EUR 40.00 in used but excellent condition.

I have that CD. It's an uneditted recording made from the audience, released as a supposed "exclusive limited edition" by folks claiming to be "Road Warrior Records." Ironically, it has all the normal full copyright warning printed on the disc and such.

Sound quality is not especially great, and is at times pretty bad (though the CD itself is well made). On the other hand, it does have fun stuff like Alizée making fun of her audience for not dancing along during Moi... Lolita, and of course, Bon Anniversaire sung by the audience to one of her friends :-)

It is not worth 40 EUR. If you want it, you can find it much cheaper, or can download it in various places online I believe (nothing wrong with bootlegging a bootleg!).

[rcs]

I can only hope any new concert footage from her third album release will be recorded in Blue-Ray or HD-DVD. That way, it won't matter too much with quality. Alizee will be crystal clear...:)

Of course, first thing's first, she's got to release the third album...:D

[Amigo!]

I just ordered the En Concert DVD from the U.S. amazon.com site using the link that ramennoodle posted on the second page AND it says NTSC format in the product details. if you already knew about this forgive my lateness. BTW as of this post there were only 4 left in stock.

[DannyMac524]

Keep in mind all that the DVD will only play on your computer. The DVD player in your living room is of the wrong format and you will get an error message. I verified that on two players of different brands. All is not lost though, if you can burn a DVD on your home player, run the video and audio from your computer to the home burner, and voila... you have a copy that will run on your TV's player.

[espire]

Keep in mind all that the DVD will only play on your computer. The DVD player in your living room is of the wrong format and you will get an error message. I verified that on two players of different brands. All is not lost though, if you can burn a DVD on your home player, run the video and audio from your computer to the home burner, and voila... you have a copy that will run on your TV's player.

However, there's a lot of analog transferring going through there. To save yourself from the evils of analog, you should rip the DVD at a relatively high bitrate (3000-5000), and then re-author it at NTSC.

[fsquared]

Keep in mind all that the DVD will only play on your computer. The DVD player in your living room is of the wrong format and you will get an error message. I verified that on two players of different brands. All is not lost though, if you can burn a DVD on your home player, run the video and audio from your computer to the home burner, and voila... you have a copy that will run on your TV's player.


Not necessarily true. Most DVD players (esp. the cheap Chinese ones) are PAL/NTSC compatible and can output NTSC signal from a PAL DVD.

[Tye]

However, there's a lot of analog transferring going through there. To save yourself from the evils of analog, you should rip the DVD at a relatively high bitrate (3000-5000), and then re-author it at NTSC.

This is a lot better way to do it. There are programs that will rip a DVD and remove the region coding. Or you could just by a multi-region DVD player for $40. Either way, it will work.

[Killian]

A DVD of the same performances was released simultaneously. The region-free disc is among the first DVDs to offer high-definition[clarify] video, and has Dolby Digital, DTS 5.1, and stereo audio tracks. DVD extras include new footage of Alizée’s concert rehearsals, the making of her video, and her trip to Japan.

Is that not true? Maybe there's something wrong with your DVD players?

[espire]

Is that not true? Maybe there's something wrong with your DVD players?

Wikipedia is correct; the disc is region free. This only means that the DVD is not subject to the DRM (digital rights management) locking that prevents one from watching foreign DVDs because the movie companies want you to buy imported for more money.

However, there is still the problem that half of the world uses NTSC discs and the other half uses PAL. This is not simply another software lockout; the video content is actually encoded completely differently with a different resolution and different framerate. So while this DVD is allowed to play anywhere in the world, you still need a DVD player that is able to understand the encoding of PAL.

[fsquared]

Wikipedia is correct; the disc is region free. This only means that the DVD is not subject to the DRM (digital rights management) locking that prevents one from watching foreign DVDs because the movie companies want you to buy imported for more money.

However, there is still the problem that half of the world uses "Region 1" discs (NTSC) and the other half uses "Region 2" (PAL). This is not simply another software lockout; the video content is actually encoded completely differently with a different resolution and different framerate. So while this DVD is allowed to play anywhere in the world, you still need a DVD player that is able to understand the encoding of PAL.

Almost true, except "Region 1" and"Region 2" are region statements, which are distinct from NTSC/PAL. But since Region 1 is all NTSC countries, they'll all be in NTSC, etc.

Actually Japan is Region 2 but uses NTSC. Probably pretty annoying since most Region 2 DVDs are in PAL just because most Region 2 countries use PAL.

http://www.hometheaterinfo.com/dvd3.htm

[ALS]

I ordered my copy from Amazon.Fr. I had it in in my mailbox here in the states in 6 days. Get the original and you don't have to worry. Order it from a reputable business instead of trying to save $10-$20 and getting ripped off. Anyone selling the En Concert DVD says it's NTSC, it's a 99% chance it's a bootleg. Most of these Bootlegs are made from lower quality copies that were downloaded off the net.

[fsquared]

I ordered my copy from Amazon.Fr. I had it in in my mailbox here in the states in 6 days. Get the original and you don't have to worry. Order it from a reputable business instead of trying to save $10-$20 and getting ripped off. Anyone selling the En Concert DVD says it's NTSC, it's a 99% chance it's a bootleg. Most of these Bootlegs are made from lower quality copies that were downloaded off the net.


I think the Mexican version is NTSC but I've heard it's not nearly as nice.

Wow, 6 days? I waited a full 4 weeks. But I think that's because I bought from a reseller at Amazon.fr, who used "economique" shipping (i.e., slowest, cheapest possible). Definitely not worth the $10 I saved over Amazon.fr.

[Amigo!]

Couldn't this whole situation of PAL and NTSC be done with by just getting a DVD player that supports both and having a TV that has ATSC. That way you can play your PAL DVD without a problem.

[fsquared]

Couldn't this whole situation of PAL and NTSC be done with by just getting a DVD player that supports both and having a TV that has ATSC. That way you can play your PAL DVD without a problem.

Even just the PAL/NTSC DVD player would suffice, and these days most players have it (you have to check in the video settings usually). It was a lot more exciting to find such players 5 years ago.

[WyomingGrizFan]

I don't know much about electronics, but of what I understand, this ATSC sounds pretty awesome: 1920 X 1080 pixels!!! That's pretty high definition better than nowadays isn't it? Which, if not mistaken, is but 1080 X 780 pixels, or ip (interlace/progressive), if number of pixels and ip are pretty close yo one and the same thing. Which really confuses me.

Anyways, isn't NTSC supposed to be replaced with ATSC in about three or four years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_Standards

If that's the case, I'd sure hate to buy an expensive DVD/TV home theatre of sorts just to replace it in a mere couple years with another expensive setup. At present, with a DVD player that accommodates (plays) both NTSC & PAL, wouldn't one need a PAL TV with special cables for conversion from the DVD player onto the TV for proper reception?

Thanx for any insight on this matter; I may just settle for a portable DVD player from Toshiba for the time being until I get a 32" HDTV with an adequate DVD player. I can't afford much more with the possible buying of a new car in the near future looming as well.

[fsquared]

No cables required for NTSC/PAL. If the DVD player has the setting, it should coerce the output to NTSC from a PAL DVD. Most cheap players have it these days.

[espire]

Couldn't this whole situation of PAL and NTSC be done with by just getting a DVD player that supports both and having a TV that has ATSC. That way you can play your PAL DVD without a problem.

All you need is a PAL DVD player. You don't need a TV that has ATSC, unless the DVD player supports upscaling to HD.

[Tye]

I don't know much about electronics, but of what I understand, this ATSC sounds pretty awesome: 1920 X 1080 pixels!!! That's pretty high definition better than nowadays isn't it? Which, if not mistaken, is but 1080 X 780 pixels, or ip (interlace/progressive), if number of pixels and ip are pretty close yo one and the same thing. Which really confuses me.

Anyways, isn't NTSC supposed to be replaced with ATSC in about three or four years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_Standards

If that's the case, I'd sure hate to buy an expensive DVD/TV home theatre of sorts just to replace it in a mere couple years with another expensive setup. At present, with a DVD player that accommodates (plays) both NTSC & PAL, wouldn't one need a PAL TV with special cables for conversion from the DVD player onto the TV for proper reception?

Thanx for any insight on this matter; I may just settle for a portable DVD player from Toshiba for the time being until I get a 32" HDTV with an adequate DVD player. I can't afford much more with the possible buying of a new car in the near future looming as well.

HD-DVD doesn't have region coding, but Blu-ray does so if Blu-ray sticks around region coding will remain, but if HD-DVD sticks around we will have no region coding.

Lili in HD would be awsome!:)

[Just a Guest]

Strangely enough the registration of "En Concert" was one of the very first
shot in HD. Dunno if final postproduction was done in HD too...

What a waste:(

[Tye]

Strangely enough the registration of "En Concert" was one of the very first
shot in HD. Dunno if final postproduction was done in HD too...

What a waste:(

They can clean up the footage and restore it to HD if the final post production wasn't done in HD as long as they kept the stock footage. Films that weren't done in HD in post production are being released in HD and they look great. They can release it in HD, it is just, do they want to? I hope they do, because I would buy it.

[Just a Guest]

They can clean up the footage and restore it to HD if the final post production wasn't done in HD as long as they kept the stock footage. Films that weren't done in HD in post production are being released in HD and they look great. They can release it in HD, it is just, do they want to? I hope they do, because I would buy it.

That will just bring you a blown up version of the PAL master.:p
It will look horrible.
4 years ago HD was very expensive to shoot on and almost no post possibilities.
I doubt if there is any HD left. Probably just the downscaled PAL originals.

35mm Film is another story. You just rescan it to another medium.

Oh well, JUST GIVE ME THE BLOODY TAPES!!!!:D

[Tye]

That will just bring you a blown up version of the PAL master.:p
It will look horrible.
4 years ago HD was very expensive to shoot on and almost no post possibilities.
I doubt if there is any HD left. Probably just the downscaled PAL originals.

35mm Film is another story. You just rescan it to another medium.

Oh well, JUST GIVE ME THE BLOODY TAPES!!!!:D

Casblanca is in black and white and is 65 years old and it looks beautiful on HD-DVD and has never looked better. Bram Stroker's Dracula was not shot on HD film, but it is comming out on Blu-Ray and is expected to have great picture quality. You would be surprised what they can do with old films, and non-HD material. If the stock was shot in HD and stored, then it can be returned to HD quality.

[WyomingGrizFan]

That's a very good point to make, 'Tye.' I think that capability in some DVD/HDTV home theaters is called 'backward compatability,' or HDMI for short. If a system doesn't specifically mention this then I don't think one can watch 60 year old movies in HD, but if the system has HDMI then all those sixty odd year old movies can be viewed 'as if' HD. Quite an accomplishment, really. For what little bit I know.

[fsquared]

That's a very good point to make, 'Tye.' I think that capability in some DVD/HDTV home theaters is called 'backward compatability,' or HDMI for short. If a system doesn't specifically mention this then I don't think one can watch 60 year old movies in HD, but if the system has HDMI then all those sixty odd year old movies can be viewed 'as if' HD. Quite an accomplishment, really. For what little bit I know.

Hmm...from what little I know, HDMI is a kind of digital connection standard (i.e., the kind of plug to go from your digital video source to the TV).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Maybe you're talking about upconversion?

[espire]

Maybe you're talking about upconversion?

Surely so, as DVD players only have HDMI if they are able to upconvert. Of course, they don't actually add much to the quality, they just use advance algorithms to approximate what sorts of details to add in to make the image look sharper. And yes, it does, but only because the TVs are for some odd reason unable to properly do this themselves.


Regarding getting En Concert out on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, even avoiding the issue called "not enough people care about it and it would suffer worse sales than the Blu-Ray of Charlie's Angles," there is another problem. En Concert was obviously not shot in HD, nothing was since recently. However, there is nothing to "digitally remaster" or "enhance to HD," unlike very old films that have been restored. Those films are not in HD either, and they're nowhere near it. They were recorded in analog formats and only the latest technology has brought out the best of it. It's being released as "HD," as one could expect, because the movie companies want you to pay nearly double the amount for the same quality on a bigger disc, and maybe for a new player.

En Concert was recorded digitally, and there isn't much more to be done with it. Of course, there is a lot of noise reduction that could be done, but I wouldn't say that upping the resolution is necessary, if even possible.

[WyomingGrizFan]

'Upconversion?' Ooo. kkkK. Now I got another little item to look for in a DVD player. I should have said:.."the impression that I'am under" since, well, now that you've found out, I bought the 'Alizee en concert' DVD even before I own, or have ever owned, a DVD player. I guess those video clips on this site did their trick.

Anyways, 'fsquared,' thanks for your clarifications on this. I was surveying the internet for info on just about the best DVD/HDTV ensemble I can get in order to watch DVDs on, 'Alizee en concert' being the first one to be put on, quite naturally.
I get snowed under by all this technical gibberish that I receive from all the numerous sites, clerks, etc.: I mean, yeah, great, it has playing capability for DVD-R/+R, CD-R-RW, MP3/WMA, JPEG picture CD, etc. etc. etc.....with all the 12-bit video DAC, 192 KHz/24 bit audio DAC, DivX/Xvid AVI files onto CD-R media I'll probably never need anyway. JUST TELL ME WHAT I NEED IN ORDER TO WATCH THE F***KING DVD,..,Plleeeaaasse;... with a cherry on top; if necessary?

Do I really need a PhD in computer science/telecommunications in order to buy this stuff? Seems like every store I walk into I pretty much have to, otherwise the clerks are chuckling up their sleeve..."hey, we got another sucker here!" "Another ninety-day warranty coming right up!"

P.S.-And don't get me started on computers either.

[fsquared]

Well, don't take too much A/V advice from me, I'm still watching most things on a 19" Philco tube TV that I picked up secondhand which doesn't even have composite inputs (coaxial cable only! :p).

One DVD player that I've been having my eye on is the Philips 5982.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8192733&st=philips+dvd&type=product&id=1164157002483

Apparently does PAL/NTSC:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=819468&page=9&pp=30

Also has a USB port for other files you may wish to play (1.1 not 2.0 though, weirdly!)

And it's pretty cheap.

[Just a Guest]

En Concert was obviously not shot in HD, nothing was since recently.
It obviously WAS!
If you ever got that far to watch the endcredits :p you'll notice that
there are quite some company's with a long time HD experience.
HD camera's (Bogard), editing facilities (Mikros Image).
Finishing of in "a" HD format to end up in PAL (or NTSC...) has quite some
advantages. Reframing, better accuracy in colour correction for instance.

Those films are not in HD either, and they're nowhere near it. They were recorded in analog formats and only the latest technology has brought out the best of it.
Film is per definition an analog format, yes. And with a higher resolution
than you could fit on a blue-ray disc.
The big classic movies wich will be re-released on either HD-DVD or Blue-ray,
will therefore be transferred from the best available prints and digitally retouched,
colour corrected, etc. That gives you a digital intermediate in 2 or 4k resolution.
Upscaling from PAL or NTSC resolution would be a laugh I guess.

[espire]

Okay JAG, I concede, you've officially pwnt me. Thanks for the corrections!

[Tye]

People sometimes don't know and I don't blame any of them some just don't know that film that a movie is recorded on has a resolution higher than any DVD or even the HD material being released this is how we can get old films to look so good on HD Discs, because the films stock no matter how old is usually of an extremely high resolution already.

[sb483]

Like some others here I got my copy from amazon.com, not amazon.fr. My last Alizée buy :( but soon 50-60 will be out and that will change :D

[Edcognito]

Hate to ask a stupid question, but is there a thread on the steps to take to pre-order the new album? I've looked at Amazon.fr, and i do not get it....

If this has already been answered, ty in advance for showing me the way! :)


Ed:cool:

[Killian]

Once I see this image, my purchase was successful or did I have to check my shipping dates?


http://moi-alizee.us/img/buydvd/step5.jpg

[lefty12357]

To have your order be successful, I think it is unnecessary to check shipping dates. Maybe someone else can confirm this. Did you get a confirmation e-mail? I think it takes a while to receive it when you use 1-click because it says active for 90 minutes, so be patient. I know it took a while for me to get a confirmation e-mail when I ordered.

[deanej]

How do you do it without one-click? I would like to combine this with Psychédélices, but I'm not sure how to do that on amazon.fr.

[Solaris]

Favorite Series: Deep Space Nine
Favorite Movie: First Contact
Favorite Characters: Voyager's EMH, Garek
Favorite Enterprise: 1701-E, NX-01

OMG OMFG XD XD XD :O~~~:D

[deanej]

I see someone managed to get that reply in the time it took me to find and edit it.

[ed2010]

I purchased the DVD via Amazon USA, and got it for $13.99 direct from them...
They said it wouldn't get here till April 08, but surprise surprise, it showed up today! ( and YES it is really worth owning! ).

I checked just now on Amazon USA and it is available from resellers starting at $26..

( caveat: it is only playable on my Mac, not on our home DVD due to region issues )

[DannyMac524]

Keep in mind folks that the French DVD WILL NOT play on an American formatted DVD going into a TV. It WILL play on your computer though. You will have to convert it over and burn a DVD for it to play on your TV. I did that by playing it on the computer and feeding the video and audio into my CD burner in the home system. So don't be disappointed or be worried that your DVD is defective when you go to play it on your TV DVD player and you get an error message.

[CFHollister]

Keep in mind folks that the French DVD WILL NOT play on an American formatted DVD going into a TV. It WILL play on your computer though. You will have to convert it over and burn a DVD for it to play on your TV. I did that by playing it on the computer and feeding the video and audio into my CD burner in the home system. So don't be disappointed or be worried that your DVD is defective when you go to play it on your TV DVD player and you get an error message.

Mostly true... But, certain DVD players sold in the US (particularly cheap ones, mine is a Toshiba SD-3960) will play region-free PAL. It's pretty much my dedicated Lili-player.

[fsquared]

Mostly true... But, certain DVD players sold in the US (particularly cheap ones, mine is a Toshiba SD-3960) will play region-free PAL. It's pretty much my dedicated Lili-player.

Don't we keep having this same conversation over and over despite answering this question repeatedly? :p PAL conversion has been one of my primary criteria for every DVD player I have purchased.

[ajaccio corsica]

hi
you can eventually ask your local electronics dealer to remove the "zones" protection on your dvd player
they generally don't mind, you have to dial a number or a code on your remote control to reach a hidden menu with all the zones available, just gotta click on "all"
most of the dvd players have a pal/ntsc transcoder but you gotta check your tv set is also pal compatible
I confirm the dvd is cool ;)
cheers

[Extra251]

Hi:D
I need some translation from French to English or German, i order the album from amazon.fr and i get one email and im not sure something if who bee so friendly and he help please PM me than.
TNX:)

[espire]

Extra, I'll be happy to translate for you, just PM me the text :)

[Addict]

I just got my dvd today after using this thread. Just finished watching it too. Heavenly :wub:

[Deramo]

I order it from and Ebay seller, got it 2 weeks ago. Love the concert, outside of Laura Pausini, this is the only concert DVD I have ever bought! Now if I can just breakdown and by a region free HDMI player for the downstairs Plasma 42"....I'll be in full Alizee glory 1020i...lol :D

[mrh264]

alizee concert is free for indian who r live in andhrapradesh

[fsquared]

I order it from and Ebay seller, got it 2 weeks ago. Love the concert, outside of Laura Pausini, this is the only concert DVD I have ever bought! Now if I can just breakdown and by a region free HDMI player for the downstairs Plasma 42"....I'll be in full Alizee glory 1020i...lol :D

A Philips 5960 or 5982 can probably be had for $60 or so, right?

[Fixty Sixty]

The Philips DVP5990 is the replacement for the DVP5982. It has a few more features and a better remote, and also costs $60 usd. Those Philips players will automatically convert PAL to NTSC, but only at 480 lines. Of course, it will then upconvert that to 1080i or 1080p. There is a region free hack for those players that you enter using the remote. The Philips players have average upconvert image quality.

If you want better upconvert image quality, check out the OPPO DV-981H that costs $229 usd. This player also automatically converts PAL to NTSC, and has a region free hack. This OPPO is a standard DVD player, so if you want Blu-ray you'll have to look for a Blu-ray player that does PAL to NTSC conversion.

You don't need a region free player to play the Alizee en Concert DVD because it's region 0 (all regions), but you do need the PAL to NTSC conversion.

[Just a Guest]

Those Philips players will automatically convert PAL to NTSC, but only at 480 lines.
But, but, but... NTSC *is* 480 lines. :p

-edit-
I've never understood that almost every European TV-set can handle
PAL as well as NTSC, but the same set in the U.S can't! :confused:

PAL 2 NTSC converters in DVD players are horrible b.t.w! :eek:

[muttonchops80]

Couldn't I just order them from the Amazon North America site? I found her latest there. Pretty pricey for me, but worth it since the CD won't see the light of day for the most part. It's onto my computer and into my iPod shuffle!:D

[Fixty Sixty]

But, but, but... NTSC *is* 480 lines. :p
Yes that's correct for standard output, but since the video signal is going to be upconverted to 1080 on the HDMI output, they could have retained the full 576 lines of the PAL source. Instead they converted it to a 480 line NTSC signal and upconvert that to 1080 effectively throwing away the extra vertical resolution of PAL. That's my understanding from what I've read about these players, but for $60 you can't really complain.

-edit-
I've never understood that almost every European TV-set can handle
PAL as well as NTSC, but the same set in the U.S can't! :confused:
I think it's a matter of bandwidth. PAL requires higher bandwidth than NTSC. Higher bandwidth circuits are more expensive, so it would increase the cost of the TV.

PAL 2 NTSC converters in DVD players are horrible b.t.w! :eek:
I have a Philips DVP5982, and the Alizee en Concert DVD looks fine, but I'm only using a standard TV. I'll have a chance to try out the Philips DVP5990 on an HD TV soon. I'd like to buy the OPPO DV-980H since I have a large collection of standard DVDs, but it would be a waste until I can get my own HD TV.

Couldn't I just order them from the Amazon North America site?
You can't get Alizee en Concert DVD new from Amazon North America. Even when they list it as available, they will ship you the CD instead of the DVD. It happened to me 3 times earlier this year, and all customer service said was that they would look into it to see what the problem is. It's currently out of stock anyway. They have the DVD listed from secondary sellers, but they $80 and higher for a used disk. So it's better to go to Amazon France for it. It currently costs $52 usd which includes shipping. The shipping cost is what drives the price up so much.

I don't think you'll do better waiting for it to show up on Ebay. The last one to show up there was bid up to over $52 in the last 2 minutes of the auction. I got the Mexican release of Alizee en Concert CD + DVD combo for $25 through Ebay, but understand that the DVD is of lower video quality (about 350 lines NTSC) to fit it on a single layer DVD5 and doesn't include the 5.1 Dolby sound, but does include the very good PCM 2D stereo sound.

[Just a Guest]

I think it's a matter of bandwidth. PAL requires higher bandwidth than NTSC. Higher bandwidth circuits are more expensive, so it would increase the cost of the TV.

You're right but that is marginal. Couldn't it be some sort of import regulation rule???:confused: