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BrianO1
12-06-2012, 10:37 PM
Alizée will be featured in a new issue of Inked Magazine, being released on December 27.


I'm very much looking forward to this, because maybe she will give us some back story on what her different tattoos mean to her. :)

User22
12-06-2012, 11:22 PM
Alizée will be featured in a new issue of Inked Magazine, being released on December 27.


I'm very much looking forward to this, because maybe she will give us some back story on what her different tattoos mean to her. :)

Ahhh very good point. I never even thought as to what she would reveal about what each of them mean! I guess this will be a much juicier interview than I originally thought! Hopefully it is an interview and not just pictures.

You should make a seperate thread of it before we start discussing it too much here :D or ill make it...whichever.

BrianO1
12-07-2012, 12:55 AM
I'm sure they will ask some about her album, ask some about the tattoos. They will probably ask how fans responded to the tattoos as well, wouldn't surprise me.

DannyMac524
12-07-2012, 09:08 PM
How does one get to see that?

User22
12-07-2012, 10:16 PM
How does one get to see that?

I'm sure scans will be quickly uploaded to the web.

Jake04
12-07-2012, 11:26 PM
I hope she doesn't get another tattoo in preparation for this interview. :(

User22
12-07-2012, 11:32 PM
I hope she doesn't get another tattoo in preparation for this interview. :(

She may get a free one afterward :fear:

BrianO1
12-08-2012, 01:09 AM
If she mentions the places she gets the tats done, I'm sure she would get a discount. :p

Junkmale
12-09-2012, 07:24 AM
Is that a US magazine Brian?

User22
12-09-2012, 11:10 AM
Is that a US magazine Brian?

no. french.

woohoo
12-09-2012, 11:24 AM
Hopefully someone will translate it real quick.

User22
12-09-2012, 12:15 PM
Hopefully someone will translate it real quick.

Don't worry woohoo, if I have to, I will type it myself then translate it :))

Merci Alizée
12-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Don't worry woohoo, if I have to, I will type it myself then translate it :))

http://www.onlineocr.net/

User22
12-10-2012, 01:20 AM
http://www.onlineocr.net/

You just saved me....hours :D

BrianO1
12-10-2012, 07:06 AM
According to a tweet Lili just put up, she will be on the COVER of the magazine, as well as exclusive photos inside! I'm guessing there will be a small article too.

melovelily
12-10-2012, 11:53 AM
Zée posted a teaser
http://distilleryimage8.instagram.com/198cf77642c011e2917a22000a9f1587_7.jpg
"Le 27 décembre , retrouvez moi en couverture du magazine "Inked". Photos
exclusives !"

Lilipop chainsaw ? :p

User22
12-10-2012, 12:41 PM
Looked them up on facebook and their most recent post was a video...then I saw the name and grabbed a screenshot.

http://i47.tinypic.com/k0t2fd.jpg

Looks like Tin-Tin is either a part of Inked Magazine or does some projects with them. Must have been easy for Alizée to get on the cover after all those visits!

DrSmith
12-10-2012, 04:42 PM
Zée posted a teaser
http://distilleryimage8.instagram.com/198cf77642c011e2917a22000a9f1587_7.jpg
"Le 27 décembre , retrouvez moi en couverture du magazine "Inked". Photos
exclusives !"

Lilipop chainsaw ? :p

Heathers ? :acute:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aRTeguVdC8o?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BrianO1
12-10-2012, 04:52 PM
Could be an interesting photoshoot! From what I've seen of the photoshoots for this magazine, the shots tend to be quite classy and sexy at the same time. Perfect type of thing for Lili to do. :wub:

Karin
12-28-2012, 08:26 AM
little preview

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9e1127fb3d60e4d9a13603f960f210e/tumblr_mfqsszy2q21s1idgbo1_1280.jpg

Panther
12-28-2012, 08:37 AM
Horrible.

.................................................. ........

melovelily
12-28-2012, 09:04 AM
Thankfully i wasn't looking forward to this ( cuz mags name n google n stuff )
Even the dog have it's eyes closed
But i got a thing for alizée in dresses so it's ok i guess :/


<FUCK THE TATTOOS>

Karin
12-28-2012, 09:13 AM
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200201_569787596370210_1314938975_n.jpg

melovelily
12-28-2012, 09:18 AM
^ translates into
" do not tell my daughter "
0_0

Karin
12-28-2012, 09:20 AM
dont know why are you soo surprised... :-D

texasguy
12-28-2012, 09:57 AM
That's pretty hot

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 10:00 AM
little preview

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9e1127fb3d60e4d9a13603f960f210e/tumblr_mfqsszy2q21s1idgbo1_1280.jpg

There is nothing classy about this.

ALS
12-28-2012, 11:01 AM
I was thinking the same thing Scruffydog. She looks like a drunk prom date. I was never into drunk woman or bondage.

melovelily
12-28-2012, 11:17 AM
not a fan of the messed up hair amd makeup , they look .... Wrong

pepelepew
12-28-2012, 11:24 AM
What's with all the American symbolism. Is it miss America in bondage? Is she supposed to be Chucky's wife? She has obviously been crying with the mascara running down. She is in handcuffs with a bloody dress and chainsaw, a shark. Is it America's fault that she has been forced to degrade herself with tattoo's or did she do it against her will? Is it representing that the trend is from America going against all American values and traditions. America in bondage, weaping and bleeding. Or is it symbolizing MK ULTRA monarch programming. I vote for the latter. It's all so confusing lol!:confused:

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 11:41 AM
I'm not sure what type of message her or is the magazine is trying to send about the U.S. There might be nothing more to it than artistic license I'd guess you'd call it, but it does bother me at first glance. I'll just have to wait to read the interview to see what it's all about.

EDIT: I think what bothers me most at this point is I believe this was the only time her picture was taken "deliberately" with the U.S. flag in it and this is how she chooses to do it?

SpanishFan
12-28-2012, 11:48 AM
I did not remember the last time she was in the cover of a magazine so I guess that only can be a good thing.
The problem I see now is that she is still too "cute" for an Ink magazine, and at the same time there is too much ink on her now for Vanity Fair or Elle, where she and her beauty belong.

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 11:56 AM
Well she hasn't had any meaningful success since 2004 and I think that's something she wants really bad, not so much for the money, but I think more for the attention and the sense of accomplishment it brings and unfortunately if her going in the direction she's been going, leads to her being on the cover of a magazine, well she'll probably keep going down that same road.

Aldighieri
12-28-2012, 11:58 AM
I like the "sadomaso" touch that handcuffs are giving to her. Well we have to take this kind of photoshoot with a bit of sense of humor definetly. Hope to find a copy on ebay .fr soon....it's ok for me. We have to ask for "classy" stuff nex time of course. Not here.Not this mag target.

Panther
12-28-2012, 12:08 PM
"In any case, being sexy includes being natural. Anything can be sexy, except vulgarity." - Alizée


:rolleyes:

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 12:18 PM
It all could be for publicity too. The timing is perfect.

Karin
12-28-2012, 12:27 PM
if I should compare this and that from 2010 in Technikart... dont know, this make bigger reaction of people :D this just look more atractive to buy it :D

ALS
12-28-2012, 12:32 PM
Yes Karin, Alizée is in it so I guess they are hoping for better than normal sales.

Panther
12-28-2012, 12:42 PM
It all could be for publicity too. The timing is perfect.

I'm sure it is but it looks a bit too much like the thin end of the 'skin-to-win' wedge to me and I had hoped Alizee would not go down that route.

Also, this image reminds me of something Mylene would come up with. This one springs to mind:

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/Panther_058/113483-a_zps55968749.jpg

lefty12357
12-28-2012, 01:28 PM
I wouldn't be overly concerned about the "meaning" of the photo. I would guess it is the idea of the photographers and the magazine staff. From Alizée's point of view, it was probably just fun to do the shoot and play a different character than she normally does. It may also open her up to another niche audience and gain her some more fans.

From my perspective, I prefer the more "cute and classy" photoshoots, but I find aspects of this photo appealing. I guess I have to let it settle into my brain a bit longer before I can say whether I like it or not. :) But either way, I bet Alizée is having a bit of a laugh at some of her fans' reactions. She's always teasing and challenging us. :D

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 01:37 PM
So when do we get to "read" the magazine?

texasguy
12-28-2012, 02:59 PM
Maybe it's poking fun at what all of the trashy pop stars in America look like... Lady Gaga, Nikki Minaj and the likes.

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 03:06 PM
Maybe it's poking fun at what all of the trashy pop stars in America look like... Lady Gaga, Nikki Minaj and the likes.

She now is in no position to poke fun at others.

melovelily
12-28-2012, 03:07 PM
LMAO i hope that's what the whole photoshoot is all about XD

Azhiri
12-28-2012, 03:35 PM
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200201_569787596370210_1314938975_n.jpg

Okay, so before reading any reactions I just want to say that I absolutely love this. No, it isn't classy or cute, but that's not what the magazine is for in the first place. It's campy, funny, sexy, and to be honest I'm looking forward to the rest of the pictures. Taking it all in, every detail is a reference to American horror films. I don't know how many of you are into American horror but for me this cover is, like I said, campy and fun.

("campy" meaning "providing sophisticated amusement by virtue of having artificially (and vulgarly) mannered or banal or sentimental qualities")

I can see her having a blast with this shoot, I know I would have.

Now that I have read reactions, take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message", and I really don't think she's "poking fun" at America, American pop stars, or anybody. I see the shoot as a fun homage to American horror.

She now is in no position to poke fun at others.

Do you really think so? I think she is 100% comfortable with herself, doing what she wants, and having fun. That seems like the perfect position to poke fun at others from.

Karin
12-28-2012, 04:00 PM
Okay, so before reading any reactions I just want to say that I absolutely love this. No, it isn't classy or cute, but that's not what the magazine is for in the first place. It's campy, funny, sexy, and to be honest I'm looking forward to the rest of the pictures. Taking it all in, every detail is a reference to American horror films. I don't know how many of you are into American horror but for me this cover is, like I said, campy and fun.

("campy" meaning "providing sophisticated amusement by virtue of having artificially (and vulgarly) mannered or banal or sentimental qualities")

I can see her having a blast with this shoot, I know I would have.

Now that I have read reactions, take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message", and I really don't think she's "poking fun" at America, American pop stars, or anybody. I see the shoot as a fun homage to American horror.



Do you really think so? I think she is 100% comfortable with herself, doing what she wants, and having fun. That seems like the perfect position to poke fun at others from.

agree, agree and once again agree !!! :D

JoeNY
12-28-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm looking forward to more pics and an explanation for each of her odd tattoos. God makes a perfect girl, and she chooses to write graffiti all over herself. :confused: Then she'll buy a $500 blouse to make herself attractive when all she ever needed was a $5 t-shirt on a tattooless body.

ALS
12-28-2012, 04:50 PM
Girls, I agree with you on the artistic side of the photo shoot but based on at least one song so far from the new CD this is like John Denver or Pat Boone trying to be Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. I know she is probably having fun but lets face it how could you take this woman seriously as a bad ass when she has a tattoos of Tinker Bell, Snow White, Boy who plays with Poop, and Sailorman on her body. Let alone posing with an ankle bitter of dog smaller than most bunny rabbits I've seen. :)) :)))

foxy
12-28-2012, 05:19 PM
do you guys notice that her dog is also on the picture lol
he is like: "WTF am I doing here?"

well, at least I like the bottom part of the picture :D
nice legs
http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o658/foxy3576/200201_569787596370210_1314938975_n_zps6ddcaf10.jp g

Scruffydog777
12-28-2012, 06:37 PM
As I said, now, she is no position to poke fun at others. That may very well change with her next album, or it may not.

Future Raptor Ace
12-28-2012, 06:52 PM
There is nothing classy about this.
Well the whole point of the picture is to be anti-classy while going about that in a humorous way. She's obviously joking and that's the point of the pic.

Jordy
12-28-2012, 06:54 PM
Okay, so before reading any reactions I just want to say that I absolutely love this. No, it isn't classy or cute, but that's not what the magazine is for in the first place. It's campy, funny, sexy, and to be honest I'm looking forward to the rest of the pictures. Taking it all in, every detail is a reference to American horror films. I don't know how many of you are into American horror but for me this cover is, like I said, campy and fun.

("campy" meaning "providing sophisticated amusement by virtue of having artificially (and vulgarly) mannered or banal or sentimental qualities")

I can see her having a blast with this shoot, I know I would have.

Now that I have read reactions, take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message", and I really don't think she's "poking fun" at America, American pop stars, or anybody. I see the shoot as a fun homage to American horror.

Do you really think so? I think she is 100% comfortable with herself, doing what she wants, and having fun. That seems like the perfect position to poke fun at others from.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about the "meaning" of the photo. I would guess it is the idea of the photographers and the magazine staff. From Alizée's point of view, it was probably just fun to do the shoot and play a different character than she normally does. It may also open her up to another niche audience and gain her some more fans.

From my perspective, I prefer the more "cute and classy" photoshoots, but I find aspects of this photo appealing. I guess I have to let it settle into my brain a bit longer before I can say whether I like it or not. :) But either way, I bet Alizée is having a bit of a laugh at some of her fans' reactions. She's always teasing and challenging us. :D

It's really nice to see there are still people with common sense over here, I couldn't agree more with both of you :)

Karin
12-28-2012, 06:57 PM
As I said, now, she is no position to poke fun at others. That may very well change with her next album, or it may not.

like Azhiri said.... take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message"...

dont think this would change something about album possibility to get more audience and success as UEDS. Remember Technikart... yea, there werent no tattoos, maybe "better" photos... if we should be that time so serious I would tell, no chance... cause the photos really didnt take much my attention.

By this, however tattoos and maybe weird idea of composition... it took my and attention of much people... and really hand on heart, whats so bad on it? tattoos? they are with us longtime, its nothing new.

and maybe last thing... if she would like to tell us something by this pic... dont think its something bad... why? just Galak... she wouldnt use her lovely pet, in photo with negative message

its Mag about people with tattoos, so really whats bad? its not Voici, which has bigger influence on people...

and... if there will be chance... I WILL BUY IT! :D

BrianO1
12-28-2012, 07:10 PM
I too very much enjoy the photos. I agree it's probably a nod to American horror type movies, the chunky mask, the leather face mask and chainsaw, the shark could be Jaws, the dog maybe Cujo. :p there have been plenty of killer prom night movies, hence the crown and all.


Very fun looking photoshoot, I hope there is a shot of Lili wielding the chainsaw though! :D

severianb
12-28-2012, 08:31 PM
Okay, so before reading any reactions I just want to say that I absolutely love this..

Me too. And for a far more simple reason: Her feet are stunning in this photo.

I'm having a full-on foot fetish moment because of this.

Bravo Alizee.

Bravo. :bow:

Azhiri
12-29-2012, 12:15 AM
Girls, I agree with you on the artistic side of the photo shoot but based on at least one song so far from the new CD this is like John Denver or Pat Boone trying to be Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. I know she is probably having fun but lets face it how could you take this woman seriously as a bad ass when she has a tattoos of Tinker Bell, Snow White, Boy who plays with Poop, and Sailorman on her body. Let alone posing with an ankle bitter of dog smaller than most bunny rabbits I've seen. :)) :)))

That's the thing, I don't think she's trying to come off as a badass or really anything anymore. I think she's just doing what she wants. I say let her. Sometimes I wonder about you guys, I can see her having a lot of fun and enjoying herself with that shoot, but a lot of you don't really seem to care about that. A lot of you seem to be more concerned with whether she's living up to YOUR expectations and standards. I'm not trying to offend anybody but that just comes off as selfish to me. She seems happier than she's ever been these days, yet her fans seem to be as UNhappy as they've ever been at the same time... kinda ironic.

I'm excited for a chance to read what she has to say about tattoos, tattoo culture, her own tattoos, etc. She seems to be really proud of hers. A lot of us have been confused about her thought process (or lack thereof) that went into getting these tattoos, maybe she will shed some light on that here.

Euphoria
12-29-2012, 02:47 AM
Galak obviously represents Scruffydog and how she wants him to be sitting next to her.

Jake04
12-29-2012, 03:14 AM
It's campy, funny, sexy, and to be honest I'm looking forward to the rest of the pictures. Taking it all in, every detail is a reference to American horror films. I don't know how many of you are into American horror but for me this cover is, like I said, campy and fun.

Now that I have read reactions, take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message", and I really don't think she's "poking fun" at America, American pop stars, or anybody. I see the shoot as a fun homage to American horror.

I too very much enjoy the photos. I agree it's probably a nod to American horror type movies, the chunky mask, the leather face mask and chainsaw, the shark could be Jaws, the dog maybe Cujo. :p there have been plenty of killer prom night movies, hence the crown and all.

At first I, too, had no idea what the photo shoot was all about. But, after reading Azhiri's post as well as Brian's, I believed that's what it's all about - a homage or parody if you will of American horror films (Prom Night, Chucky, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Jaws, etc)

That's the thing, I don't think she's trying to come off as a badass or really anything anymore. I think she's just doing what she wants. I say let her. Sometimes I wonder about you guys, I can see her having a lot of fun and enjoying herself with that shoot, but a lot of you don't really seem to care about that. A lot of you seem to be more concerned with whether she's living up to YOUR expectations and standards. I'm not trying to offend anybody but that just comes off as selfish to me. She seems happier than she's ever been these days, yet her fans seem to be as UNhappy as they've ever been at the same time... kinda ironic.

I'm excited for a chance to read what she has to say about tattoos, tattoo culture, her own tattoos, etc. She seems to be really proud of hers. A lot of us have been confused about her thought process (or lack thereof) that went into getting these tattoos, maybe she will shed some light on that here.

You always amaze me with your wisdom despite your young age. (No offense meant).:D

Edit: Judging by the fans reactions (It has over 3,000 likes on her fb), I guess most of her fans liked it! ;p

pepelepew
12-29-2012, 03:42 AM
I think some fans would think it cute and campy if she was eating a fresh pile of Gallaks poop using an American flag as the plate lol. Although I can't know how much of this shoot Alizee is committed to, it is obvious to me that the picture represents more than a tribute to American horror films. At the very least it is poking fun of the American beauty queen ideal or taking a chainsaw to it. Miss America/prom queen in handcuffs with running mascara, blood and a chainsaw at her feet represents death to the traditional idea of beauty in America. She may be even responding to the negative feelings about the tattoo's detracting from her beauty. A statement of FU or just that she will do exactly what she wants everyone be damned. Or that the American traditional ideals of beauty are dead, non existent or have always been hypocrisy. I could make much deeper comments, but then it would result in political issues and I won't go there. Actually the picture is a pretty accurate representation of American pop culture if I do say so myself and I do.

Rev
12-29-2012, 03:51 AM
little preview

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9e1127fb3d60e4d9a13603f960f210e/tumblr_mfqsszy2q21s1idgbo1_1280.jpg

That's pretty hot

No it isn't.


There is nothing classy about this.

I was thinking the same thing Scruffydog. She looks like a drunk prom date. I was never into drunk woman or bondage.


Very true.


I do wonder why she would convey an exploited woman image, considering her prior postings agains such things. I guess we will have to read the print to find out what she thinks about this.


What's with all the American symbolism. Is it miss America in bondage? Is she supposed to be Chucky's wife? She has obviously been crying with the mascara running down......

The eye looks like it could be from "A Clockwork Orange" by Stanley Kubrick - the same American director who made "Lolita".


I'm not sure what type of message her or is the magazine is trying to send about the U.S. There might be nothing more to it than artistic license I'd guess you'd call it, but it does bother me at first glance. I'll just have to wait to read the interview to see what it's all about.

EDIT: I think what bothers me most at this point is I believe this was the only time her picture was taken "deliberately" with the U.S. flag in it and this is how she chooses to do it?

I also wish the Amerian flag was not in it. It doesn't matter what the intent of the image is, many will see it as disrespectful. I think she made a mistake here (by not saying no to including the flag). The image could even take on a life of it's own (for example, being held up as an example of what the French think of America). She has carefully avoided such controversies in the past. I think she erred in allowing this.


"In any case, being sexy includes being natural. Anything can be sexy, except vulgarity." - Alizée :rolleyes:

Hah!


Okay, so before reading any reactions I just want to say that I absolutely love this. No, it isn't classy or cute, but that's not what the magazine is for in the first place. It's campy, funny, sexy, and to be honest I'm looking forward to the rest of the pictures. Taking it all in, every detail is a reference to American horror films. I don't know how many of you are into American horror but for me this cover is, like I said, campy and fun.

("campy" meaning "providing sophisticated amusement by virtue of having artificially (and vulgarly) mannered or banal or sentimental qualities")...

...Now that I have read reactions, take heart and get your sense of humor back out guys. She isn't trying to send any "message", and I really don't think she's "poking fun" at America, American pop stars, or anybody. I see the shoot as a fun homage to American horror....

Thanks Azhiri. Nice analysis. :)


...I'm excited for a chance to read what she has to say about tattoos, tattoo culture, her own tattoos, etc. She seems to be really proud of hers. A lot of us have been confused about her thought process (or lack thereof) that went into getting these tattoos, maybe she will shed some light on that here.

I hope so.


Galak obviously represents Scruffydog and how she wants him to be sitting next to her.

With a collar.... :D

melovelily
12-29-2012, 06:27 AM
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/35d8650c51aa11e2a5d622000a1e94d6_7.jpg

http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/8f48f5bc51a911e289bf22000a1fa4a9_7.jpg

" should not rely on this appearance. I have my temper and it can be explosive "

Aldighieri
12-29-2012, 06:37 AM
What's the name of fotographer? Maybe I can find some outtakes..thanks..

Karin
12-29-2012, 06:57 AM
Julien Lachaussée :D

Scruffydog777
12-29-2012, 09:52 AM
Galak obviously represents Scruffydog and how she wants him to be sitting next to her.

Really????? What she wants, she will get.






With a collar.... :D

That's acceptable...........I'll go out and get sized for one today!

Karin
12-29-2012, 10:37 AM
http://www.julienlachaussee.com/wp-content/gallery/musicians_1/3954-06.jpg

http://www.julienlachaussee.com/wp-content/gallery/musicians_1/3950-05.jpg

Aldighieri
12-29-2012, 11:58 AM
Karin.. ;)

Karin
12-29-2012, 12:35 PM
PDF Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8r83m1ij2cka1p7 // Password: alizee-italia.com

DannyMac524
12-29-2012, 12:43 PM
She looks kind of sad for some reason.

Jake04
12-29-2012, 01:02 PM
What's the name of fotographer? Maybe I can find some outtakes..thanks..
Julien Lachaussée :D

Another "Lucky B@$tard!" :D

PDF Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8r83m1ij2cka1p7 // Password: alizee-italia.com

Thanks for sharing, Karin! Thank you also to Alizee-Italia! :2_thumbs:

Corsaire
12-29-2012, 02:33 PM
An artist may certainly agree to participate in a conceptual photo shoot simply for the fun of it. Or maybe the artist wants to convey a particular feeling, or an opinion of the moment. One of the strangest cases of a concept that is the antithesis of an artist’s image is the “Butcher Cover” from the Beatles:

http://cf.drafthouse.com/_uploads/images/beatles-yesterday-today-butcher%281%29.jpg

More info:
http://badassdigest.com/2011/11/04/the-beatles-and-the-butcher-cover/

Was it just for fun? Was it really meant to be a critic of some important cultural or political issue of the time? Well, whatever the Beatles’ purpose was, to me, this is just basic cheap sensationalism. I think Alizée’s Inked photo shoot was most probably just for fun, but it does not take away the fact that it is the same puerile superficial appeal to sensationalism. I don’t find it to be funny, clever, creative, interesting, challenging, beautiful nor sexy. It is simply cheap, but mostly boring to me.

The Inked photo shoot is pretty insignificant when taken on its own, but more generally speaking, I would say there is a clearer picture emerging more and more; Alizée seems to be immature and superficial. I always thought there was a strong deeper person behind the physical beauty, but maybe this was misreading her career moves. Maybe Alizée is indeed simply interested in tattoos, pets, shopping, food, candies, childish entertainment... Maybe most of her fans like these sorts of topics, but I myself find them mortally boring. I had great hopes after a more mature Alizée showed up for UEDS, but now, I would say Alizée is either really shallow and uninteresting, or she is really hiding well the more mature and deep side of her.

Azhiri
12-29-2012, 03:39 PM
As far as whether she's trying to send a message or make any certain points through symbolism, the films the shoot is paying homage to in the first place can have symbolism themselves. That fat dude up there with the mask is a reference to Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was culturally relevant for its time since it was released in 1974, during a time which saw a lot of chaos and social unrest. The raw violence and gore in the film reflected all the tension of that time, in an exaggerated way.

I find that horror movies, more than any other genre, project a lot of information about the time it was made into the film itself. The major villain or "monster" in a film might not necessarily be an intentional symbol of a major "monster" in real life, but you can definitely make parallels in some films between the film itself and whatever was going on in real life at the time. Night of the Living Dead, where zombies can be seen eating members of their own family, came out during a time when traditional family values were seeing a noticeable decline. 1933's King Kong can reflect the state of moral chaos during the Depression. 1974's King Kong shows America's mistrust of the corporation. These movies were all so successful because they were relevant; because they projected some of society's major fears and issues onto the big screen, where they became tangible and could, in a way, be dealt with.

Sorry for going off on a tangent, but I really like talking about movies haha. I can go on and on with these, but my point is that I don't believe the shoot is trying to make any big statements about American culture/society because the points have already been made by the films that are being referenced here. Maybe they are being reiterated.

This particular photo shoot is pretty insignificant when taken on its own, but more generally speaking, I would say there is a clearer picture emerging more and more; Alizée seems to be immature and superficial. I always thought there was a strong deeper person behind the physical beauty, but maybe this was misreading her career moves. Maybe Alizée is indeed simply interested in tattoos, pets, shopping, food, candies, childish entertainment... Maybe most of her fans like these sorts of topics, but I myself find them mortally boring. I had great hopes after a more mature Alizée showed up for UEDS, but now, I would say Alizée is either really shallow and uninteresting, or she is really hiding well the more mature and deep side of her.

I've noticed that too. I think Alizee is very capable of getting into that frame of mind, but right now she is just choosing to be there for the ride.

Edit:

Really????? What she wants, she will get.




That's acceptable...........I'll go out and get sized for one today!

I lol'd, poor Scruffy. :))

PDF Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8r83m1ij2cka1p7 // Password: alizee-italia.com

Thank you!!

You always amaze me with your wisdom despite your young age. (No offense meant).:D


Thank you. :o

foxy
12-29-2012, 03:39 PM
PDF Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8r83m1ij2cka1p7 // Password: alizee-italia.com

tnx karin

unfortunately i cannot speak french
so is there anything interesting in the article?

lefty12357
12-29-2012, 03:52 PM
Maybe Alizée is indeed simply interested in tattoos, pets, shopping, food, candies, childish entertainment... Maybe most of her fans like these sorts of topics, but I myself find them mortally boring. I had great hopes after a more mature Alizée showed up for UEDS, but now, I would say Alizée is either really shallow and uninteresting, or she is really hiding well the more mature and deep side of her.

I've asked myself this question many times as well. I don't doubt Alizée could be fun to hang out with on occasion. I don't doubt she can be kind and generous, and generally be a nice person. And maybe for most fans, that is enough to maintain their allegiance to her. But it can be difficult to tell just how deep that river runs.

JoeNY
12-29-2012, 04:16 PM
My fellow Alizee fans...these photos are a cry for help!!! ;) She's spinning out of control like Lindsey Lohan and needs an intervention! Okay, I'm just teasing and joking. :D

Alizee, like most models for layouts, is just an actor for still images. It's the same for music videos. Of course she may have input in the results, but the videos are simply conceptions and interpretations of the photographer or director. Don't read into any subliminal messages of anti-Americanism.

Most of Alizee's pics have been personal. It's unusual to see her "in character" in these photos. I find the real Alizee much more interesting and fascinating than her roles in Le Enfoires or elsewhere. That's usually the opposite for celebrities who seem to be disappointing in real life - visually and personality-wise.

Alizee's tattoos are an entirely different matter. I'm sure there's a story behind each one of them. She also seems to embrace the macabre for some reason (her t-shirts, the skull on her bikini). I got over the skull and crossbones stuff in my teens. Cool then, but not now. I want to know about the Snow White with a machine gun tattoo. Is she Snow White on the exterior but a hard-nosed, cold-blooded, killing machine on the inside? Hmmm.

Ray4AJ
12-29-2012, 05:25 PM
I've made an attempt at getting a translation for the article. I've not even really read it yet but I've got other things to do and wanted to get this to the forum. I used the web based OCR that MA had mentioned, and then went through it to fix the problems I found. Then ran it through Microsoft translator. It's probably not perfect but maybe some will be interested.

EDIT - Ok, I've tried to read it and there are some typos in the French part still, and that of course affects the translation. But I get the gist of the article and am not going to spend any more time on it. Enjoy!

My translation first:
Twelve years! Already twelve years ago that Alizée has landed on our airwaves with his tube unstoppable me...Lolita. This hit a squatting the Charter around the world told us his adventures and his lack of understanding to those who, as soon as she gave his tongue to cat is cast on it. "But above all, Alizée was considered to be the forerunner of these stamped countless young singers ' pop Lolitas" who arrived en masse in the early 2000s. In 2013, the conclusion is clear: most of these singers are either fallout in the dungeons of the song, or desperately trying to resurface by all means. And Alizée, as Connor MacLeod, is still active, has toured el is a fifth album. Sacred journey for this beautiful Corsica reserved temperament that is completely on its side "little girl in an adult body" '
But several questions remain: How can we explain this artistic continuity without faults? This absolute fidelity to it with his (very) many fans? This particularly broad musical palette that says albums in albums? And above all, who really is Alizee? Who can boast to know this now mother fulfilled? Baby not many people in the end. Therefore, digging into his history and his past that we discover a rich and rather surprising personality. And it's even more digging that detected one of his great passions: the tattoo! If reading this sentence, bad languages are already in motion to affirm that the beautiful fact that surf the wave of the moment tattoo, that they soon swallow their saliva. «The tattoo is almost a family story says Alizée.» My uncle had a hut in Corsica and an evening, a tattoo artist came a party and my uncles and my father almost went under the needle. From there was born my attraction to this art, and since that day, I always knew that I would tattoo. "And among all these tattoos for an evening, is that of his father, who will mark it: a pattern of Peter Pan. It is to go ego of this Disney character Tinker Bell, namely that his choice will be. A fairy that symbolizes well" my character, that is jealous in love with character but which is still nice. Clearly, a sort of guardian angel.

But by his own admission, this first experience will not remain in the annals. And the next either. The world of tattooing so refuses to open arms? Maybe he was waiting the milestone. And it will come with the birth of her daughter in 2005. The discovery of an artist In Asian blogger, Tokyobahnbao. an exchange of emails and the demand for downstream, a picture of "my daughter sauce manga. The result was beautiful and I went to Tin - Tin to tattoo this ground. "Not only, this tattoo remains today that she is the proud but in addition, it will mark the beginning of a long and faithful cooperation with the inescapable Tin - Tin. In order to "fix" the Act a little lack of the previous representative Tinkerbell tattoo, it is he who will ensure the Act II of this ground. A motif which takes the entire back of the beautiful and permanently embodying his guardian angel. But then again, it was not without difficulty "I think not having as much harm than when this tattoo. To the point that once the session is completed, Tin - Tin had asked to return a month after Ie Finally, I waited six months so it had marked me! "But told not to suffer to be beautiful? Now, is suffering a part old memories and the sequence continues. On his arm, a white snow with an M - 16 to show that "even if people see me as a wise girl, do not rely on this appearance. I have my temperament and can be explosive if it seeks me! "There is also the character of Sailor Moon on his arm, the judge who actually fantasize more than one at the time of the Club Dorothée. And always in the same spirit, Arale (Professor Slump manga character) also decorates his arm just like the cloud of Super Mario.

A childlike, magical and enchanted world in which Alizée is recognized and likes. "I insist on this point, but really, I still feel the soul of a little girl. "Even though I am a mother, that I monitor the duties of my daughter, I scold the etc, I have fun as much if not more than it when I go to Euro Disney. If I had a sentence to summarize this way of life, it reads on his arm: Forever young! A phrase inked on his native island and or, despite what one might imagine, "the tattoo is very common. My brother and most of my cousins and cousins are very tattooed. And above all, young people are making very large pieces and it is perfectly accepted and tolerated." But besides this symbolic dimension, his tattoos have much more unexpected; to be copies by number of fans. "When I was doing my sentence Forever Young, I had posted a picture showing this tattoo." Result, I received hundreds of photos of fans showing me this same tattoo on them! Even when signing sessions, there is always someone who will take this ground of tattooed. I confess that it is both pleasant but strange." All these memories of fans hard-liners, one of them is stays in memory. "A day at a meeting in Paris, an American tourist came up to me and started to remove his t-shirt. All the security guys fell him on it then I calmed things and I asked him what he wanted. And, by removing his shirt, I got a shock! He had been tattooing my portrait on the back! »

With a new album coming out, there is no doubt that Alizée will be other surprises of the same kind at its future meetings of dedications. An album that turns its back on the electro sounds of the past to look to the 60s pop. And the beautiful can boast to have beautiful people among its composers, with notably a former Indochina IBA and guitarist Luke. And as a main influence: France Gall, "an artist j always admired. The wafer is scheduled for February and will be as always accompanied by a box set collecting well-stocked. For the time being, it is the eternal tour media continues and that leaves little time for Alizee to blow a little. And think the main concerned, namely, her daughter, her mom tattoos that are dedicated to him? "My daughter is crazy about my tattoos." I had taken it with me during a meeting at Tin - Tin and she had loved. Since then, she collect all pretty or other tattoos Malabars. I do not know how I will respond if the urge takes in a few years of getting a tattoo. Wish - it just the same beautiful course.

French to follow...

Edit:

Possible French text from Inked article..
Douze ans! Voilà déjà douze ans qu'Alizée a débarqué sur nos ondes avec son tube imparable Moi…Lolita. Ce hit qui a squatte les charte un peu partout dans le monde nous narrait ses aventures et son incompréhension face à ceux qui, dés qu'elle donnait sa langue au chat, se jetaient sur elle. Mais surtout, Alizée était considérée comme le précurseur de ces innombrables jeunes chanteuses estampillées 'Lolitas pop" qui ont débarqué en masse au début des années 2000. En 2013, le constat est clair: la plupart de ces chanteuses sont soit retombées dans les oubliettes de la chanson, soit tentent désespérément de refaire surface par tous les moyens. Et Alizée, tel Connor MacLeod, est toujours active, enchaîne les tournées el en est a son cinquième album. Sacré parcours pour cette jolie Corse au tempérament réservé qui assume complètement son côté «*petite fille dans un corps d'adulte*»'

Mais plusieurs questions subsistent: comment expliquer cette continuité artistique sans failles ? Cette fidélité absolue qu'elle suscite auprès de ses (très) nombreux fans ? Cette palette musicale particulièrement vaste qui s'affirme d'albums en albums ? Et surtout, qui est vraiment Alizée ? Qui peut se targuer de connaitre cette désormais mère de famille épanouie? Bah pas grand monde au final. C'est donc en creusant dans son histoire et son passe que l'on découvre une personnalité riche et assez surprenante. Et c'est en creusant encore plus que l'on décèle l'une de ses grandes passions: le tatouage ! Si à la lecture de cette phrase, les mauvaises langues se mettent déjà en branle pour affirmer que la belle ne fait que surfer sur la vague tattoo du moment, qu'ils ravalent très vite leur salive. «** Le tatouage est presque une histoire de famille précise Alizée. Mon oncle avait une paillote en Corse et un soir, un tatoueur est venu animer une soirée et la quasi-totalité de mes oncles ainsi que mon père sont passés sous les aiguilles. De là est née mon attirance pour cet art et depuis ce jour, j'ai toujours su que je me ferai tatouer.*» Et parmi tous ces tatouages d'un soir, c'est celui de son père qui va la marquer :un motif de Peter Pan. C'est donc vers l'aller ego de ce personnage de Disney, à savoir la Fée Clochette, que son choix va se porter. Une fée qui symbolise bien
«*mon caractère, c'est-à-dire jalouse en amour, avec du caractère mais qui reste gentille. En clair, une sorte d'ange gardien*»

Mais de son propre aveu, cette première expérience ne restera pas dans les annales. Et la suivante non plus. Le monde du tatouage se refuse donc à lui ouvrir les bras ? Il attendait peut-être l’événement marquant. Et celui-ci viendra avec la naissance de sa fille en 2005. La découverte d'une artiste In blogueuse asiatique, Tokyobahnbao. un échange de mails et la demande d'aval, un dessin représentant «*ma fille à la sauce manga. Le résultat était magnifique et je suis allé chez Tin-Tin afin de me faire tatouer ce motif.*» Non seulement, ce tatouage demeure aujourd’hui celui dont elle est le plus fière mais de plus, cet acte va marquer le début d'une longue et fidele collaboration avec l'incontournable Tin-Tin. Afin de «*réparer*» l'acte un peu manqué du précédent tatouage représentant la Fée Clochette, c'est lui qui va assurer l'acte II de ce motif. Un motif qui prend tout le dos de la belle et qui incarne définitivement son ange gardien. Mais là encore, ce ne fut pas sans peine «*Je ne crois pas avoir autant eu mal que lors de ce tatouage. Au point qu'une fois la séance terminée, Tin-Tin m'avait demandé de revenir un mois après pour Ie finir, J'ai attendu six mois tellement ça m'avait marqué*!*» Mais ne dit-on pas qu'il faut souffrir pour être belle ? Désormais, la souffrance fait partie des vieux souvenirs et l'enchaînement a continue. Sur son bras, une blanche neige portant un M-16 afin de montrer que «* même si les gens me voient comme une petite fille bien sage, il ne faut pas se fier à cette apparence. J'ai mon tempérament et ce dernier peut s'avérer explosif si on me cherche*!*» On trouve également le personnage de Sailor Moon sur son bras, cette justicière qui en a fait fantasmer plus d’un a l'époque du Club Dorothée. Et toujours dans le même esprit, Aralé (personnage du manga Professeur Slump) orne également son bras, tout comme le nuage de Super Mario.

Un univers enfantin, féerique et enchanté dans lequel Alizée se reconnait et se plaît. «*J'insiste sur ce point mais vraiment, je me sens toujours l’âme d'une petite fille. Mémé si je suis mère, que je surveille les devoirs de ma fille, que je la gronde etc, je m'amuse autant sinon plus qu'elle quand je vais à Euro Disney*». S'il fallait une phrase pour résumer ce mode de vie, on la lit sur son bras*: Forever young*! Une phrase encrée sur son île natale et ou, malgré ce que l'on pourrait imaginer, «*le tatouage est très courant. Mon frère et la plupart de mes cousins et cousines sont très tatoués. Et surtout, les jeunes se font faire de trés grosses pièces et tout ça est parfaitement accepté et tolere*». Mais en plus d'avoir cette dimension symbolique, ses tatouages ont un effet beaucoup plus inattendu*; celui d'être copie par nombre de ses fans. «* Quand je me suis fait faire ma phrase Forever Young, j'avais posté une photo montrant ce tattoo. Résultat, j'ai reçu des centaines de photos de fans me montrant ce même tattoo sur eux*! Même lors de séances de dédicaces, il y aura toujours quelqu’un qui aura ce motif de tatoué. J'avoue que c'est à la fois plaisant mais aussi étrange*». De tous ces souvenirs de fans jusqu'au-boutistes, l'un d'eux est reste en mémoire. «*Un jour lors d'une séance sur Paris, un touriste américain est venu vers moi et a commence à enlever son tee-shirt. Tous les mecs de la sécurité lui sont tombés dessus alors j’ai calmé les choses et je lui ai demandé ce qu'il voulait. Et là, en enlevant son tee-shirt, j'ai eu un choc ! Il s'était fait tatouer mon portrait sur le dos!*»

Avec son nouvel album qui sort, nul doute qu'Alizée aura d'autres surprises du même genre lors de ses futures séances de dédicaces. Un album qui tourne le dos aux sonorités électro du passé pour lorgner vers la pop 60s. Et la belle peut se vanter d'avoir du beau monde parmi ses compositeurs, avec notamment un ex zicos d'Indochine ainsi que le guitariste de Luke. Et comme influence principale: France Gall, «* une artiste que j toujours admirée*». La galette est prévue pour février et sera comme toujours accompagnée d'un coffret collecter bien garni. Pour l'heure, c'est l’éternelle tournée médias qui continue et qui laisse peu de temps à Alizee pour souffler un peu. Et que pense la principale concernée, à savoir sa fille, des tatouages de sa maman qui lui sont dédiés ? «*Ma fille est folle de mes tattoos*! Je l'avais emmenée avec moi lors d'une séance chez Tin-Tin et elle avait adoré. Depuis, elle collectionne tous les décalcos ou autres tatouages Malabars. Je ne sais pas comment je réagirai si l’envie prend dans quelques années de se faire tatouer*». Souhaitons- lui simplement le mémé beau parcours.

foxy
12-29-2012, 05:58 PM
merci Ray4AJ


"De tous ces souvenirs de fans jusqu'au-boutistes, l'un d'eux est reste en mémoire."
lol she mentioned Roman in the article:)))
put him on the lucky bastard list :D

edit:
yeah finally i found the picture
"Et là, en enlevant son tee-shirt, j'ai eu un choc ! Il s'était fait tatouer mon portrait sur le dos!"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_20Bw3qpsWkg/SMS4t8643KI/AAAAAAAAAI8/eV8WE4AVPWs/s400/alizee_shocked.jpg

OGRE
12-29-2012, 08:26 PM
Snow White with an M-16.....
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.........and a seven round clip.:D

User22
12-29-2012, 10:22 PM
After reading this article, I think we can agree on the path her life went down: She had her childhood, but then was forced to grow up to the age of a 25-30 year-old in her late teens/early twenties. Now she is simply trying to grow up...but at a later point in her life. So besides growing from 18-23 when she was that old, she is experiencing that growth period when she is 25-30 years old. Its like her twenties have been flipped around.

A very unique situation indeed. We pretty much got our answers to why she is such a child inside, in one interview.

Euphoria
12-29-2012, 11:54 PM
Not really a fan of this, but I don't hate it. I guess it reminds me too much of this controversial American photographer Tyler Shields. Seems kinda like a ripoff of his style. The boobs look great, though. ;)

Un-rêve
12-30-2012, 12:17 AM
I've made an attempt at getting a translation for the article. It's probably not perfect but maybe some will be interested.

Thanks for the translation Ray4AJ.

I especially like Alizée's reference to her forever young tattoo and I see Connor Mcleod was mentioned there somewhere too. Well I always liked the concept of that movie and it seems she does too. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img710/3548/alizeforeveryoung.jpg


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User22
12-30-2012, 02:08 AM
This particular photo shoot is pretty insignificant when taken on its own, but more generally speaking, I would say there is a clearer picture emerging more and more; Alizée seems to be immature and superficial. I always thought there was a strong deeper person behind the physical beauty, but maybe this was misreading her career moves. Maybe Alizée is indeed simply interested in tattoos, pets, shopping, food, candies, childish entertainment... Maybe most of her fans like these sorts of topics, but I myself find them mortally boring. I had great hopes after a more mature Alizée showed up for UEDS, but now, I would say Alizée is either really shallow and uninteresting, or she is really hiding well the more mature and deep side of her.

I agree with Azhiri, she can definitely get in that matured and purpose-driven mindset. Just look at how she carries herself in interviews and video we get leading up to new albums. Did you see her in the "Making of Mademoiselle Juliette" video? That woman knew what she wanted and was going to make sure things were done right.

Alizée, just like all human beings, has a work-mindset and a play-mindset. She is mature and deep with her work, while being playful and social with her family and friends. In the last few years we have got to see both sides of her, not just her "work" side. We are now seeing who she truly is...which is coming as a shock to most of us...if anyone can tell :D

severianb
12-30-2012, 02:18 AM
merci Ray4AJ

lol she mentioned Roman in the article:)))


That's so awesome. :bow:

pepelepew
12-30-2012, 03:41 AM
After seeing more pictures from Inked photoshoot, it appears that I jumped the gun on the deeper symbolism theory. Those of you that saw it as just a humorous spoof on American horror films appear to be right. After seeing the rest of the pictures of the shoot and the translated interview I reached the same conclusion. Now I almost wish that a deeper meaning was in play. In other words, I have to agree with Corsaire. Alizee has been showing a very superficial and shallow world. Although the jury is still out in that as protective of her personal life as she has been in the past, I'm hopeful that what she has been showing is the lighter side of her existence. I have made this point in the past and I really don't want to be critical of Alizee because there is very little real information to make a sound judgement. Even if there were, I respect her and her fans enough to stay away from attacking her character or judge what I think is the true Alizee. I still believe that she is a good person and a fun loving personality. The path she is taking from this fans perspective is becoming less and less relevant to me. I just need to say some of this dribble as a part of my own grieving process.

foxy
12-30-2012, 04:29 AM
interesting article


now we know where she got the addiction for tattoos :/
:pissed: :gun1:

she has a super mario tatoo? where?

and the forever young tatoo says it all, she has a problem with getting older...

Bigdan
12-30-2012, 04:44 AM
After seeing more pictures from Inked photoshoot, it appears that I jumped the gun on the deeper symbolism theory. Those of you that saw it as just a humorous spoof on American horror films appear to be right. After seeing the rest of the pictures of the shoot and the translated interview I reached the same conclusion. Now I almost wish that a deeper meaning was in play. In other words, I have to agree with Corsaire. Alizee has been showing a very superficial and shallow world. Although the jury is still out in that as protective of her personal life as she has been in the past, I'm hopeful that what she has been showing is the lighter side of her existence. I have made this point in the past and I really don't want to be critical of Alizee because there is very little real information to make a sound judgement. Even if there were, I respect her and her fans enough to stay away from attacking her character or judge what I think is the true Alizee. I still believe that she is a good person and a fun loving personality. The path she is taking from this fans perspective is becoming less and less relevant to me. I just need to say some of this dribble as a part of my own grieving process.

I must say that I'm not far to think the same way...

Scruffydog777
12-30-2012, 06:35 AM
Well it's interesting and touching to learn how Alizee developed her fascination or what ever you want to call it with tatoos. Still, could she not have waited for the album to come out for her to get the rash of tatoos that she has gotten in the past year? There is so much on the line with this album. I firmly believe that if this one fails, there will be no more.

She walked away from two incredibly talented artists back in 2004. The worst part of that was she has found other very talented artists to work with, but none who knew how to write songs that were as perfectly suited for her voice range as those of MF and LB.

I highly doubt if the songs of this album will have the beauty of MCE or Gour; maybe one at the most. Still there could be songs good enough to make a successful album. Point is she needs everything going for her. Of course the things that could have added so much to her performances, her physical beauty and beauty of her dancing, in my opinion, are gone. To me it's a waste of her time to put on a beautiful dress, to be put in a beautiful setting, to have her do a great dance if that mess of an arm is showing.

We see artists like MFand LB who studied the arts together in college to be better prepared for the path they wanted to follow. Nolwenn came to this country to better herself. MP decided to forego relationships so he could strike while the fire is still hot. These and many other artists made sacrifices for their careers, but Alizee could not wait one more year, at which time she could have gotten all the tatoos in the world?

It kind of indicates to me she's still way too young at heart; still has way too much to learn at a point where time is very quickly running out.

User22
12-30-2012, 11:43 AM
After reading the posts of the last few months, I hate to say it and don't mean any offense by it, but a generation of Alizée fans are passing on. But there is still hope, this new album. As one generation of fans passes by, another one comes along.

I just want it to be february already! Can't wait to see what she'll do different with this album. Because like Scruffy said, time is of the essence to get those jumper cables, whatever they may be, and get this career back up and running...for her to INITATE HER PLAN OF WORLD DOMINATION!!!! MWUAHAHAHA!!!!

Sorry, I can't always be serious :p

ALS
12-30-2012, 03:38 PM
I've said it before I feel she is going through what Micheal Jackson went through in his late twenties and thirties. As has been pointed out she was forced into a career at fifteen and lost out on her sixteen through twenty growing up years. She couldn't hang with her friends and be a typical teenage girl. She is trying to be a teenager again while being a mom and a career woman.

So far the only downside I've been able to pick up on is her tattoo fetish.

She seems to be holding it together so far and I feel Dancerman was a good choice for her after her break up with Jeremy. Taking a break from dating and a serious relationship will help her get her head and priorities with her family and career in the proper perspective.

This child like personality and immaturity is a draw to her but in some ways other than the tattoos I've seen a change in her over the last year or so.
She seems to be growing up and taking on a little more responsibility especially with her relationship with Annili with her moving out of her parents place a few months ago. It's nice to have your parents around to help out with Annili when you have to work on the new Album and its promotion but you don't want your child thinking your mother is more of a mom than you are.

I'm hoping the tattoos are just a phase she is going through and in a few years they'll just be an after thought of her crazy single girl days.

I think she would be an unbelievably fun girlfriend but there is that side of her where marriage would be a really high maintenance job for any man, and I'm not talking financially. That would be be a whole different situation separate from what we are discussing here.

Junkmale
12-30-2012, 09:40 PM
Seems to me that it's just a photo shoot and the images suit the nature of the magazine and the audience they were intended for.
Nothing more. Nothing less.

lefty12357
12-30-2012, 10:32 PM
Yeah, I don’t think Alizée is suffering from having lost her teen years to her career. Most of the pop stars that started out young like she did have put in many, many more hours than she has. They have done several world tours and did tons of TV and live performances. I wouldn’t doubt Britney did more work in a year during her peak than Alizée has done in 10.

I’m not saying this as a criticism. I’m just pointing out that Alizée has had a lot of free time in the last 10 years, sometimes a couple years off in a row. She is 28 years old and has had plenty of time to make up for a few lost years in her teens.

My point is, that Alizée is a child at heart because that’s who she is, and that’s how she’s put together, and not because of some outside influence. I believe most of the things she does is because she wants to or likes to. I don’t think one needs to look any deeper than that to understand why she is the way she is.

Scruffydog777
12-31-2012, 10:31 AM
I honestly believe Alizee's heart is not into this album. I think she's only doing it because it's the only thing she knows how to do.

If you look at her first 2 dj performances, she dressed up like plain Jane. Then I think after she probably heard some criticism from her French fans, she wore something, that didn't make her look over dressed and yet she looked sensational at her next dj gig.

Then came the RFM performance where she sang ACDLA and it was a major step backwards. Two comments here were she looked like she just rolled out of bed and it looked like she didn't even comb her hair. I thought it looked like she didn't even shower. It looked like she had her leaf raking outfit on; she was raking the back yard; someone hollered out it's time to go and she hopped in the car and off she went.

You look at her appearence years ago in Poland, where the 2 reporters were asking her stupid questions, the nature of which infuriated her. You could see the intensity in her eyes. I think she was very close to climbing over that table and showing these guys how fierce a Corsican's womans temper can be.

Then you have the M6 awards, where she was brought to tears by the huge ovation she got by the thousands who were there, but with that Corsican toughness, she fought back the tears and was able to say what she wanted to say.

I would think with what's gone on in her career, she'd want to prove that she didn't need MF and LB; that she could make it on her own and I would have expected to see a fierceness and a detemination in the way she promoted herself and the album at these events.

I don't see that at all. I see a woman who doesn't want to be there; a woman who'd rather be some place else. I see a woman who if left to her own devices, after the album was finished, would have went back to Corscia and just waited until Sony called up and said it's time to attend the autograph session.

I beleive her heart is into her tatoos and it was into her recent ink photo shoot and it will be into the event at Rin tin tins. I think if she could find a way to make money off of tatoos, she would drop her music career like a hot potato, because her tatoos are something she loves, but as far as her album, it is something she has no passion for.

Karin
12-31-2012, 01:08 PM
I honestly believe Alizee's heart is not into this album. I think she's only doing it because it's the only thing she knows how to do.

If you look at her first 2 dj performances, she dressed up like plain Jane. Then I think after she probably heard some criticism from her French fans, she wore something, that didn't make her look over dressed and yet she looked sensational at her next dj gig.

Then came the RFM performance where she sang ACDLA and it was a major step backwards. Two comments here were she looked like she just rolled out of bed and it looked like she didn't even comb her hair. I thought it looked like she didn't even shower. It looked like she had her leaf raking outfit on; she was raking the back yard; someone hollered out it's time to go and she hopped in the car and off she went.

You look at her appearence years ago in Poland, where the 2 reporters were asking her stupid questions, the nature of which infuriated her. You could see the intensity in her eyes. I think she was very close to climbing over that table and showing these guys how fierce a Corsican's womans temper can be.

Then you have the M6 awards, where she was brought to tears by the huge ovation she got by the thousands who were there, but with that Corsican toughness, she fought back the tears and was able to say what she wanted to say.

I would think with what's gone on in her career, she'd want to prove that she didn't need MF and LB; that she could make it on her own and I would have expected to see a fierceness and a detemination in the way she promoted herself and the album at these events.

I don't see that at all. I see a woman who doesn't want to be there; a woman who'd rather be some place else. I see a woman who if left to her own devices, after the album was finished, would have went back to Corscia and just waited until Sony called up and said it's time to attend the autograph session.

I beleive her heart is into her tatoos and it was into her recent ink photo shoot and it will be into the event at Rin tin tins. I think if she could find a way to make money off of tatoos, she would drop her music career like a hot potato, because her tatoos are something she loves, but as far as her album, it is something she has no passion for.

and your heart is only to find everything bad on everything what Alizee do.

RFM performance was in radio, not TV.... there is not so much important how she look like, when the most people didnt watched it live, just heard it. Show me radios, where people care how they look like. Most radios dont have live streaming online. We had one, and how looked moderators? like 1000years old mumie which just woke up, they would need tons of makeup to look great. I think Alizée looked on situation good, it was in morning and again it was just radio. She doesnt need make-up to look great. She just looked tired. And what? its normal.

You are still making LB/MF as holy people. What was Mylene before she get famous? nothing like Alizée. Maybe MF and LB have talent to make big things, but this doesnt work everytime. Look on MF new album... I heard it, Im not Mylene fan but I can tell Mylene had done better work before on previous albums, than on this album. Like Alizee, Mylene helped LB music... without him it wasnt the same. I read many comments about MF new album from french fans, and many were dissappointed how she could make this. And not just music, but artwork too for album. It just look really like fanmade and not like by professional. So like I told, Mylene is not holy person, she is not much perfect as french media are making her.

If you have really problems with everything, you cant understand how it is now... and sorry but it look really so... why you still spend time on Alizée? Im not Alizée, I dont know her... but to be her, and read your posts everyday... I would many times think why nobody understand me, I just try to live my life and enjoy it with my girl, family and friend and of course with fans.
Im not expert, but this is 100% valid things... everywhere... understanding... if your friends, in this situation fans cant understand you and are thinking you are crazy... its not your fault, but theirs...

I think she has passion for new things, same like by new album... but most of you are hidding this passion with things like tattoos

Scruffydog777
12-31-2012, 01:45 PM
Alizee has passions, but not for her new album. I make MF and LB as holy people., because they like no others have been able to make songs that are so incredilby matched to her voice.
She herself said in the not too distant past that she would like to work with MF, because she realized way too late how much MF and LB meant to her career.
You say it didn't matter how she looked in her recent endeavors. You keep making excuses for her. She doesn't give a rats ass about her career. All she cares about are her tatoos.
She has passion for her tatoos and not her new album.

Karin
12-31-2012, 01:47 PM
Alizee has passions, but not for her new album. I make MF and LB as holy people., because they like no others have been able to make songs that are so incredilby matched to her voice.
She herself said in the not too distant past that she would like to work with MF, because she realized way too late how much MF and LB meant to her career.
You say it didn't matter how she looked in her recent endeavors. You keep making excuses for her. She doesn't give a rats ass about her career. All she cares about are her tatoos.
She has passion for her tatoos and not her new album.

if you have problems, you should refocus to MF when you love her so much

Scruffydog777
12-31-2012, 02:09 PM
No, I don't love her so much, but I recognize an incredibly talented artist when I see one. Do you not realize what she has accomplished in Europe? Do you not realize what a huge part of her success LB was? Do I have to remind you how huge she was in France?

EDIT: Actually I think I have to remind you. After Alizee dumped her like a hot potato, she went on to produce a couple of her own albums. In fact she scheduled a concert at an 80,000 seat stadium that sold out in 2 hours at a time when Alizee couldn't even fill up a theather of 2,800 in a city of 8 million people.

skungpoomery
12-31-2012, 03:54 PM
I honestly believe Alizee's heart is not into this album. I think she's only doing it because it's the only thing she knows how to do.

If you look at her first 2 dj performances, she dressed up like plain Jane. Then I think after she probably heard some criticism from her French fans, she wore something, that didn't make her look over dressed and yet she looked sensational at her next dj gig.

Then came the RFM performance where she sang ACDLA and it was a major step backwards. Two comments here were she looked like she just rolled out of bed and it looked like she didn't even comb her hair. I thought it looked like she didn't even shower. It looked like she had her leaf raking outfit on; she was raking the back yard; someone hollered out it's time to go and she hopped in the car and off she went.

You look at her appearence years ago in Poland, where the 2 reporters were asking her stupid questions, the nature of which infuriated her. You could see the intensity in her eyes. I think she was very close to climbing over that table and showing these guys how fierce a Corsican's womans temper can be.

Then you have the M6 awards, where she was brought to tears by the huge ovation she got by the thousands who were there, but with that Corsican toughness, she fought back the tears and was able to say what she wanted to say.

I would think with what's gone on in her career, she'd want to prove that she didn't need MF and LB; that she could make it on her own and I would have expected to see a fierceness and a detemination in the way she promoted herself and the album at these events.

I don't see that at all. I see a woman who doesn't want to be there; a woman who'd rather be some place else. I see a woman who if left to her own devices, after the album was finished, would have went back to Corscia and just waited until Sony called up and said it's time to attend the autograph session.

I beleive her heart is into her tatoos and it was into her recent ink photo shoot and it will be into the event at Rin tin tins. I think if she could find a way to make money off of tatoos, she would drop her music career like a hot potato, because her tatoos are something she loves, but as far as her album, it is something she has no passion for.

Although a relative newcomer to the blog I’m by no means a newcomer to Alizée and I share much of your consternation, frustration and regret about what might have been had the formula of Alizée with MF and LB been allowed to continue. I watch the Alizée En Concert DVD and see a young (still in her teens) artist with the world at her feet fronting a band and crew of unsurpassed excellence and playing to huge crowds of devoted fans. I’ve also always hated the tattoos (including the Tinkerbell one of old) and regard them as stupid self-vandalism even if artistically impressive which hers certainly are not.

Part of me says “it’s all in the game” – lots of people, especially in the music world, are famous today and forgotten tomorrow and nobody cares (unless it’s someone you actually do care about) and at least they have had their fifteen minutes of fame whereas most people don’t even get that. The other part of me thinks “what a waste”.

In terms of the forthcoming album (and Sony have had my eighty quid for months for the limited edition) I’m not so sure that it will be as make or break as you fear. Clearly it’s never going to hit the heights of a Gourmandises or a Mes Courants Electriques but it may not sink without trace either. I think you are right that Alizée, rather understandably and having already done it, doesn’t hunger for the madness of super-stardom any more and that seems to me fair enough; on the other hand she probably figures she can make a good living producing albums that people will buy and, if so, then why not? It’s better than working as they say and she can continue to have a profile high enough to keep her in things like Les Enfoirés which we know she loves.

I think it all adds up to, or boils down to, just love her as a soul who is finding her way the same as the rest of us – don’t be too conditional and say that it’s only if she stays beautiful and successful that we will go on caring about her – and please know that I am really only talking to myself and not trying to lecture anyone else!

Vive Alizée!

User22
12-31-2012, 04:24 PM
Thanks for your thoughts skungpoomery, gives me more hope for this new album :) And Scruffy, I'm quite sure her heart will be more in this album more than any album she has made to date based on the lyrics and symbolism of the first single. But I agree that her heart may not be in the promotion of this newest album at this point in time. But like we all know, she won't rise to the height of Gourm and MCE, so why even put forth the promotional efforts to even attempt to reach that height? But I do think she should promote herself to the public like she is doing now with these radio interviews, radio performances, and DJ gigs leading up to her new album. She still hasn't entered the 2-month peak-promotion period before the albums release. So I'm more than sure that we will see quite the promotion. Just look at the new face she has put on her site, YouTube channel, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. She is marketing to the new generation while still getting out into the public to put a face with her name. I'd give her a B+ for promotion at this point in time simply because she racked up so many followers online which will see that crucial post in a few months, "Buy my album on iTunes and in stores today". The power of networking is strong, and she is in the perfect place to pass sales for Psychedelices.

Azhiri
12-31-2012, 04:32 PM
Alizee has passions, but not for her new album. I make MF and LB as holy people., because they like no others have been able to make songs that are so incredilby matched to her voice.
She herself said in the not too distant past that she would like to work with MF, because she realized way too late how much MF and LB meant to her career.
You say it didn't matter how she looked in her recent endeavors. You keep making excuses for her. She doesn't give a rats ass about her career. All she cares about are her tatoos.
She has passion for her tatoos and not her new album.

Karin has a good point about her appearance at the radio performance. I thought she looked just fine personally, she is not dressed up or made up in a particularly nice way but if you look at major artists, a lot of them choose to dress casually for such performances.

I think Alizee's style has always been very casual and laid-back. She almost always manages to look toned-down, but still classy and cute.

I agree that she does not seem to be very driven in this whole process towards this new album, but I also agree that she has the same old passion and drive for other things instead. She seems to have found things other than music and her career to fill her life with - friends, family, shopping, tattoos... fun! That is not ideal for us because as fans, we want to see her in the spotlight and see her make good music. I do think it's inevitable, though. Were you the same person you were ten years ago? Did the same things matter to you, the same goals and priorities? Those questions aren't directed at you personally, Scruffy, but the whole forum. I know I'm not the same person I was ONE year ago, and one year from today I'll still be changing. Same with Alizee, but she has still kept general traits like drive and passion and hard-headedness - just in regards to different things than her career.

Maybe if there are more albums to come, she will be more serious about them. I still have hopes for this album just because it will be something fresh and new.

Karin
12-31-2012, 04:49 PM
No, I don't love her so much, but I recognize an incredibly talented artist when I see one. Do you not realize what she has accomplished in Europe? Do you not realize what a huge part of her success LB was? Do I have to remind you how huge she was in France?

EDIT: Actually I think I have to remind you. After Alizee dumped her like a hot potato, she went on to produce a couple of her own albums. In fact she scheduled a concert at an 80,000 seat stadium that sold out in 2 hours at a time when Alizee couldn't even fill up a theather of 2,800 in a city of 8 million people.

yea... but by Mylene is it another... do you think she sold the whole concert only thanks new album? dont think... just cause her name is something in France, she is like french Madonna.
And btw. nobody knows how it really was between MF and Alizee. Mylene is old and I think too clever, to be "angry" on Alizee for who she was like second mother. But like in life, daughter one day will go by her own way. So dont try to play here on someone who know them better as they themselves. I told it in past... if would Alizee never end with MF/ LB, do you think they would work together till now? dont think... so however the separation would come sooner or later

Un-rêve
12-31-2012, 06:36 PM
I honestly believe Alizee's heart is not into this album. I think she's only doing it because it's the only thing she knows how to do.


I see a woman who doesn't want to be there; a woman who'd rather be some place else. I see a woman who if left to her own devices, after the album was finished, would have went back to Corscia and just waited until Sony called up and said it's time to attend the autograph session.

Alizee has passions, but not for her new album.

Well Alizée is still here making music because she loves her fans too.. I mean the new album is for us after all. Whether we will like it or not is down to us though.. well I'm sure there will always be some criticism. :fear:

melovelily
12-31-2012, 06:44 PM
Zée quote * My true pleasure in this business is singing before an audience. These are very happy moments. I'm always a little nervous before getting out there, but once I'm on stage I could never stop

EDIT :

I think i know why alizée keeps getting crappy tats, the poor girl never saw how beautiful she is
* I am, of course, delighted (on seeing her pictures in French and foreign magazines) but I don't like looking at myself. In fact, I'm very critical about myself.

Ok maybe she does know how she looks like but uh yeah whatevs

Junkmale
12-31-2012, 06:58 PM
Nicki Minaj has sold millions of albums and sells out stadiums on a regular basis and she is without doubt one of the most repulsive, talentless individuals i've ever seen and had the misfortune to hear.

SpanishFan
12-31-2012, 07:34 PM
Nicki Minaj has sold millions of albums and sells out stadiums on a regular basis and she is without doubt one of the most repulsive, talentless individuals i've ever seen and had the misfortune to hear.

I kind of agree with you, but I am sure at least she works hard to put a good live show for the audience and her fans are happy not only enjoying her albums, but having as well a ton of bootlegs of live performances...

I am sure she has good professionals around her, to take good care of her image, choreographies, albums, promotions, gigs, adverts, interviews, merchandising... and I bet she and her people is always thinking two steps ahead.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me what is the reason for Alizée being maybe the only artist I follow that don't do gigs or goes out on tour, even if is in a small theatre with 200 seats.

ALS
12-31-2012, 07:48 PM
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Panther
12-31-2012, 07:55 PM
This is an interesting discussion but I think there is an alternative perspective that has not yet been considered. It is my belief that Alizee's heart was very much in this new album project when it it first started but that she has now lost interest in it to some extent. I think there has been a conflict of interests at play from the outset, between what Alizee wanted and what Sony wanted. I think this is the fundamental reason for all the delays and, more significantly, the two completely different videos. It strikes me that the first video was all Alizee's idea. Forget about the poor production values for a moment and think about how the story line fits the sentiments of the song and everything we know about her life over the past 18 months or so. This, to me, is Alizee telling her story and expressing her thoughts. Can the same be said for the 'new' 'official' video? No it can't. It is a far more commercial venture - attempting to cash in on the new Bond film Skyfall and really has no relationship to her recent life history apart from the gun shot. I think if Alizee could have had things all her own way from start to finish then we would have had an album by now and it might have had a few rough edges but it would have been HER album and her heart would have been in it. I think what we are about to get will be a sanitised set of songs designed by corporate yes-men to be the best commercial success that they can produce on a low budget. If I am right, then it is no wonder that her heart is not in it.

As for MF & LB? they have long since had their day. Have you seen the reactions of the fans on the MF boards to her last 3 albums and recent singles? It's less than enthusiastic. Of course, she can still fill a stadium because as Karin points out, she is Mylene Farmer and she is pretty much a French institution, plus there is always the fear that her next concert will be her last.

Merci Alizée
12-31-2012, 09:15 PM
No offense Scruffy, but more and more I read your posts these days, more I feel that Alizee has become like spoiled daughter whose every step or lifestyle seems wrong to you, but you can't stop caring because she is your own blood.

Euphoria
01-01-2013, 12:10 AM
I'm tired of the excuse that it was just a radio performance. So what? There will ALWAYS be cameras. She dressed really cute for that radio interview when Psyche came out. I think she doesn't really care anymore. Il'm pretty sure she just does albums for a relatively quick meal ticket.

What I don't understand is how she manages to look so frumpy, considering her outfits end up costing thousands of dollars. If you think of someone like Kim Kardashian, she is always dressed to the nines with full makeup. She works hard to keep up her image. Alizee needs to step it up.

Un-rêve
01-01-2013, 12:28 AM
Alizee needs to step it up.

You might have a point but I don't really wanna see Alizée in a "private video" like Kim Kardashian.

BrianO1
01-01-2013, 12:30 AM
Honestly I think Alizée is just comfortable enough with herself to not really care what others think. As in...she likes what she is wearing (hence why she picked it) and doesn't care if others approve. She has her style, and it's what she likes. If other people don't like the look....don't wear it. ;)

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 12:36 AM
No, I don't love her (Mylene Farmer) so much, but I recognize an incredibly talented artist when I see one. Do you not realize what she has accomplished in Europe? Do you not realize what a huge part of her success LB was? Do I have to remind you how huge she was in France?

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Nicki Minaj has sold millions of albums and sells out stadiums on a regular basis and she is without doubt one of the most repulsive, talentless individuals i've ever seen and had the misfortune to hear.


Look at Kim Kardashian. She's a talentless piece of crap in my opinion, who get's so much attention, mainly because she's a s**t. But your post implies MF doesn't have talent. It's very true that she uses sex to sell, just like KK and that may be the main reason for her huge success, after all she designed her own sex toy, then wrote a song about it, but all you have to do is listen to MCE and Gour to realize even without the sex, how incredibly talented her and LB are. I've said so many times before, MF,LB and Alizee was a match made in heaven. So incredibly suited to one another.

Look at this interview with Inked magazine. I don't have the benefit of having this magazine in front of me and I see they did mention the she's working on a new album. , but did they mention the name of the album even once? Did they show a picture of the cd cover?

If they didn't, I think that shows she doesn't care. How many times have you seen an artist on Letterman or Leno and someone drags out a cd that the artist is currently working on? In fact they are probably on the show to promote their new album and Alizee didn't even ask them to mention the name of her new album? "If" they didn't mention it, that's unthinkable. Her new album is just around the corner and she didn't ask them to mention the name? It shows you where her priorities are. It was with the photo shoot and not the album.

She should have looked at this photo shoot as a tremendous opportunity to promote the album and she let it slip by.

There is no questioning Roman's love of this woman. It looked like he didn't have one tatoo on his body, yet he had this big tatoo of Alizee put on his back. What a huge gesture of dedication. Still, when pictures were posted where he appeared at one of her Les Enfoires appearences, I was kind of shocked to see him in old blue jeans and a t shirt. I'm sure it was just a result of that California life style. But at the time, I thought, how could you wear an outift like that when you are seeing someone who has meant so much to you?

So after that, the autograph session came up where I asked several members if they wanted autographed cds and the oppurtunity popped up to represent this forum, well I put a lot of thought into that. I wanted to represent this forum in a good way, so I went to a local shop and had a shirt designed with the name of this forum and both the U.S. and French flags on them because I wanted her to have no doubt where I was from, plus I wanted to show respect for her country and I wanted to show by my appearence that this wasn't just another occassion for me. It was something I cared about.

Now at RMF, she shows up wearing this ratty sweat shirt. She could have easily like I did, had one made up that showed either the name of the new album or maybe a picture from the video, but that was too much to ask of her.

Look at all the pictures she has tweeted. You would think an artist who is coming out with a new album would hold up the cover of her new cd or single in just about every picture, but outside the studio, we never see it, because she doesn't care.

How many times has she tweeted pictures of dancerman? How many times has she tweeted pictures of her dogs? How many times has she tweeted pictures of the cover of ACDLA?

I doubt if there is any way you can convince me that her heart is into this album.

lefty12357
01-01-2013, 12:52 AM
Look at all the pictures she has tweeted. You would think an artist who is coming out with a new album would hold up the cover of her new cd or single in just about every picture, but outside the studio, we never see it, because she doesn't care.

How many times has she tweeted pictures of dancerman? How many times has she tweeted pictures of her dogs? How many times has she tweeted pictures of the cover of ACDLA?

I doubt if there is any way you can convince me that her heart is into this album.

Typically, Sony would own the rights to the music and artwork of any product they are producing. Normally, they would determine what can be released to the public and when. It might be that Alizée doesn't have permission to share any of it with the public yet.

Davedel
01-01-2013, 01:30 AM
I can't stand this new crap that Alizee keeps getting into. To me she is the most beautiful and desirable woman that has ever existed.. at least the old Alizee was. But this new Alizee is driving me crazy, pissing me off and hurting me emotionally by this self destructive attitude and mutilation of herself. She should have stayed with Mylene and Laurent and it would have been better for both her and us.

Alizee.. get your shit together and be the beautiful angel you were born to be and not the little demon you're becoming. PLEASE.. somebody slap her!

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 01:47 AM
Typically, Sony would own the rights to the music and artwork of any product they are producing. Normally, they would determine what can be released to the public and when. It might be that Alizée doesn't have permission to share any of it with the public yet.

Do you honestly think Sony would have a problem with when she tweets a picture that it would include a picture of her new album? How long are people here going to make up exscuses for her?

Merci Alizée
01-01-2013, 01:51 AM
Do you honestly think Sony would have a problem with when she tweets a picture that it would include a picture of her new album?

Did you miss how Sony reacted to first music video of the new single?

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 02:01 AM
Did you miss how Sony reacted to first music video of the new single?

I didn't miss how she showed up at RFM looking like she hadn't even showered. I didn't miss how outside of what Sony tells her to do, she does nothing to promote this album.

Azhiri
01-01-2013, 02:39 AM
I can't stand this new crap that Alizee keeps getting into. To me she is the most beautiful and desirable woman that has ever existed.. at least the old Alizee was. But this new Alizee is driving me crazy, pissing me off and hurting me emotionally by this self destructive attitude and mutilation of herself.

She obviously feels quite passionately about her tattoos. To her, they are an art form and a way of expressing herself. I think they are ugly, but I respect the fact that she likes them, is proud of them, and can do what she pleases.

She should have stayed with Mylene and Laurent and it would have been better for both her and us.

Do you really believe that she would be happy having someone else constantly calling the shots? Yes, I guess it would have been better for us because we would have gotten to hear more material from those three together, which was an awesome combination of talents, but she has her reasons for bowing out. I think it was good for her to get out and do her own thing for a while.

Alizee.. get your shit together and be the beautiful angel you were born to be and not the little demon you're becoming. PLEASE.. somebody slap her!

Why do you say she's becoming a "little demon"? Because she isn't doing what YOU want? That's gotta be one of the most disrespectful things I've read on this forum that was directed towards her.

You guys need to learn some respect for her if you're going to claim that you love her and care about her. There's a distinct line between being a dedicated fan who cares about her as a person, and being an obsessive control freak. Some of us are really starting to toe that line.

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 02:52 AM
She obviously feels quite passionately about her tattoos. To her, they are an art form and a way of expressing herself. I think they are ugly, but I respect the fact that she likes them, is proud of them, and can do what she pleases.



Do you really believe that she would be happy having someone else constantly calling the shots? Yes, I guess it would have been better for us because we would have gotten to hear more material from those three together, which was an awesome combination of talents, but she has her reasons for bowing out. I think it was good for her to get out and do her own thing for a while.



Why do you say she's becoming a "little demon"? Because she isn't doing what YOU want? That's gotta be one of the most disrespectful things I've read on this forum that was directed towards her.

You guys need to learn some respect for her if you're going to claim that you love her and care about her. There's a distinct line between being a dedicated fan who cares about her as a person, and being an obsessive control freak. Some of us are really starting to toe that line.

You are so right. She has an increcilble passion for her tatoos and no passion for her career.

We do need to understand what is important to her. We do need to recognize what matters most to her and it is not her career. It is her tatoos that matter most to her and it's not a bad thing that that is so important to her. That by no means makes her a bad person, but it does make her a person who's singing career means little to her.

Quinetiam
01-01-2013, 06:00 AM
I gotta jump into this,

I think Alizee is a lot more Savy then most give her credit for. I don't think she wants to be a star much less a superstar. I think she's living life and not obsessing over her career.

I see a little twinkle in her eye since the last Les Enfoires and I think she doesn't take it all to seriously. She's exactly who she needs to be.

Davedel
01-01-2013, 06:14 AM
I can only say that I hope she finds happiness in what she's doing because she's causing a lot misery to many of us out here. I doubt if she's going to make another CD after this one because the newer music is lackluster at best and she's obviously not very interested in promoting it.

I guess she's moving on to the DJ scene with all those tats. Well, at least she was top-of-the-line, cream-of-the-crop for a few years.. There's no disputing that! Here's a cheer to the old Alizee.. Hip, Hip, Hurrah!

OndrejSc
01-01-2013, 09:15 AM
I didn't miss how she showed up at RFM looking like she hadn't even showered.

Am I the only one here who finds the idea of dirty Alizée strangely appealing?

lefty12357
01-01-2013, 10:32 AM
Do you honestly think Sony would have a problem with when she tweets a picture that it would include a picture of her new album? How long are people here going to make up exscuses for her?

Yes, Sony would have a big problem with artists releasing unauthorized stuff. We know that leaks can sometimes be damaging. The last thing you want is to have the artist being the leak.

I'm not making excuses for her. I simply think if you are going to make the case that she doesn't care, you should present other evidence. I just want people to understand that the record companies routinely exercise complete control over their intellectual property and artists are legally bound to respect that. For whatever reason, Sony doesn't seem ready or willing to put the album promo in high gear yet.

Personally, I think Alizée cares because she is a proud person and she cares about making a living. However, I'm not convinced that singing is really her passion. I think she likes being in the entertainment industry, but she doesn't want a huge commitment of time and effort. For now, the career she has is a good fit for the life she wants to live. It really doesn't require her to work that much.

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 11:35 AM
Am I not mistaken in saying the cover for the cd has already been posted? In fact using the same picture that graces the home page of this forum? I can't believe that Sony would have a problem with her holding up this cover when she tweets pictures to her fans. It's called promotion. In fact, that's why Sony is sending her all over France; to promote her.

I think she misses working with MF and LB; mainly because all she had to do was show up. They told her what to wear, what to sing, what dance to do. She would have much rathered done it her way, but she tried it and she flopped and trying to make a successful album has become such a chore for her, that she no longer enjoys it. She has grown tired of the chase. It's not fun for her anymore.

We've discussed in here that this album could be her last album if it doesn't succeed. Well I think it will be her last even if it does succeed. She doesn't enjoy the process anymore. If this album is a hit, she will only continue if she needs the money, or if she finds a group of artists that are almost as good a fit for her as MF and LB were, and good songs will again appear to her to grow on trees the way they did in her early years.

As far as evidence she doesn't care, all you have to do is look at these promotional appearences. These events are to promote "her". She should be happier than a witch in a broom factory that Sony is putting so much effort into promoting her. She should look at these events as golden opportunities to promote her and the album, but she shows up looking like she reluctantly took time out of her busy schedule to go there.

At the RMf studio, all her peers dressed casual, but they have nothing to prove. There is nothing on the line for them where as her career is at stake, yet she showed up looking like she just didn't care.

Karin
01-01-2013, 11:54 AM
Am I not mistaken in saying the cover for the cd has already been posted? In fact using the same picture that graces the home page of this forum? I can't believe that Sony would have a problem with her holding up this cover when she tweets pictures to her fans. It's called promotion. In fact, that's why Sony is sending her all over France; to promote her.

I think she misses working with MF and LB; mainly because all she had to do was show up. They told her what to wear, what to sing, what dance to do. She would have much rathered done it her way, but she tried it and she flopped and trying to make a successful album has become such a chore for her, that she no longer enjoys it. She has grown tired of the chase. It's not fun for her anymore.

We've discussed in here that this album could be her last album if it doesn't succeed. Well I think it will be her last even if it does succeed. She doesn't enjoy the process anymore. If this album is a hit, she will only continue if she needs the money, or if she finds a group of artists that are almost as good a fit for her as MF and LB were, and good songs will again appear to her to grow on trees the way they did in her early years.

As far as evidence she doesn't care, all you have to do is look at these promotional appearences. These events are to promote "her". She should be happier than a witch in a broom factory that Sony is putting so much effort into promoting her. She should look at these events as golden opportunities to promote her and the album, but she shows up looking like she reluctantly took time out of her busy schedule to go there.

At the RMf studio, all her peers dressed casual, but they have nothing to prove. There is nothing on the line for them where as her career is at stake, yet she showed up looking like she just didn't care.

Do you think by MF/LB she was happier? look on the most perfomances, most of ML... look to her face... in most time you could see there she was bored to perform again and again Moi Lolita, she did it just cause she must do it. I think only things which enjoyed were the many trips to countries like Japan and Korea and of course En Concert. Only in concert I had the feeling I saw the real Alizee, with fully energy, with passion to enjoy the time with fans. But in other perfomances she was just like wood doll. Or look to really only live perfomance of ML in Italy, did you saw she enjoyed it much? well... in the begginning I find she would be like better away.

You should go to look into the mirror... one time you are telling how is Sony making the great job with album and promoting her with DJ sets, and on another day you are saying 100% opposite things. And really dont put every problem of Alizée, but on Sony too.... Like Lefty said, look how they react when was leaked first video, 100% blocking everywhere, the same was by Psyche with Fifty-Sixty when it was leaked. Do you think Alizée wouldnt like to share with us if she could? Sony has the 100% control on everything from music to so little thing like cover of album.
Look to to MF era... Alizee-Italia asked photographers of single covers if they could get original photos. Answer? "We have not the rights for photos, only label" .
So Sony too have the fully control, they can and they have fully right to tell Alizee what she can and cant post.

Why you all here werent so active to crizing her by UEDS? there she and they made much more then by this project?

If most of you dont like what she is doing, you should stop hear and watch her by the end with MF like the others "fans", who were really Mylene fans and not Alizees

Jenny_HRO87
01-01-2013, 12:44 PM
Yes, Sony would have a big problem with artists releasing unauthorized stuff. We know that leaks can sometimes be damaging. The last thing you want is to have the artist being the leak.

I'm not making excuses for her. I simply think if you are going to make the case that she doesn't care, you should present other evidence. I just want people to understand that the record companies routinely exercise complete control over their intellectual property and artists are legally bound to respect that. For whatever reason, Sony doesn't seem ready or willing to put the album promo in high gear yet.

I totally agree.

Thinking about it... what I don't get it why it takes Sony so long to release the name of the album... the cover is one thing but that we doesn't even know the name yet is a bit weird considering that they want to release the album on the 25th February.

In 2010 at the same time we already had cover and name and one month more left until the album release than we have now.

melovelily
01-01-2013, 12:56 PM
I think she misses working with MF and LB; mainly because all she had to do was show up. They told her what to wear, what to sing, what dance to do. She would have much rathered done it her way

That's the issue actually

According to the interview she did in that mag ( i keep forgetting the name of it ) where she posed like madonna ( and made madonnas pic look like shit )

She said one of the problems ( which caused the separation later ) is that zée wanted to show more of her personality and less of her body

Early zée was just a product and they didn't let her get involved in the image mf created since i guess the real alizée wasn't like the gimmick

Ray4AJ
01-01-2013, 12:58 PM
This is the first album promotion I've ever followed. But I'm also sure that Sony has total say-so regarding the promotion. I think they have ramped it up. The DJ events get her out in front of her peers and get her name back on the scene. The radio things also do the same thing. Something must be working because she's doubled her followers in Instagram in the last six weeks, 5000 more in just the last week. Twitter is way up. These new followers are interested in her and hopefully her music and have been drawn in (I assume) by the recent promotion. I believe these people are from the target audience for the new album. I'm not a clothes/fashion person so I didn't see a problem with her appearance at the radio gig. But that's just me. And maybe the people who will buy the album didn't care either.
It looks like she really enjoyed the recent holidays and hopefully will be ready jump into the promotion which I think is getting ready to really get going. She knows the promo game better than any of us and she knows what she was getting into when signing the contract. It's part of what she does. I think it will be exciting for her and also for us to watch.

OndrejSc
01-01-2013, 01:18 PM
That's the issue actually

According to the interview she did in that mag ( i keep forgetting the name of it ) where she posed like madonna ( and made madonnas pic look like shit )

She said one of the problems ( which caused the separation later ) is that zée wanted to show more of her personality and less of her body

Early zée was just a product and they didn't let her get involved in the image mf created since i guess the real alizée wasn't like the gimmick

I judge people by what they do, not by what they say they'll do:

Before split:

http://i47.tinypic.com/1ekkle.jpg

After split:

http://i46.tinypic.com/zl5kdl.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmmrlj.jpg

But I like it.

melovelily
01-01-2013, 01:46 PM
That's the mags name technikart dumb name .... She looks good on the cover ....

Anyways i'm sure she meant the performances ala JEAM and JPVA

Here's the whole interview


The summer of 2000, she entered into our homes. In winter 2010, she's entering into us.

Alizée: Like a Hurricane

Ten years ago was the Alizée tornado; more than two million "Moi... Lolita"s flew off the shelves of French supermarkets. The sizzling pop star is coming back with an album that'll set the trend for the 2010s: a creative and charming return to the mainstream.

It's cliché but true: unlike all the little hyped phonies, Alizée, a working-class artist, isn't the least bit snobby. We spent an entire afternoon photo shoot with her. The pop star turned out to be the nicest person in the room. Like an old classmate from our Jean Moulin high school; neither a prissy left-bank hip chick, nor a slutty showoff, Alizée symbolizes a current trend that gets talked about less and less in the media (which is too occupied with selling trash). Forced to tour Mexico with bodyguards, she gets hounded by paparazzi in France, has sold millions of records, but arrives ready to go and early for our meeting the following day, having just dropped off her daughter at a pre-school in the middle-class 13th arrondissement of Paris.

On paper, we weren't exactly fascinated with her new project, her fourth album, Une Enfant du siècle. A mainstream singer hiring a bunch of well-connected producers isn't that suprising anymore, but it could have been a slick move; she's buying credibility for cheap, and the clever little composers are plowing the postmodern terrain on a theme currently in vogue: the icons of Andy Warhol's Factory. Listening to the album brought smiles to our faces. Well, it doesn't have that bohemian or folk Habitat sound. The two parts are nicely harmonized. Chateau Marmont, Rob, and David Rubato, big-time composers and top-flight producers, carved out songs that are both modern and vintage, à la Kim Wilde or Valerie Dore; in other words, delicious, fresh, catchy, melancholic, spontaneous--sparkly on the outside, subtle on the inside. These days only Lily Allen, with her more beat-up look, sings similar-sounding jingles that are, paradoxically, more engaging rather than quickly forgotten. It's mainstream, as necessitated by Alizée's celebrity status. More than anything, though, it's pop.

It's snowing outside and it's freezing inside. Alizée's wrapped in her overcoat, but through this musical blind test, she turns out to be both easygoing and outgoing at the same time.

Madonna, "La Isla Bonita"
"I had the album cover of Like a Virgin in my room! My dad was a fan, and I grew up with her songs. I've liked her less since the Music album; she continues to work with the latest sound styles, which is great, but she's less authentic, and her sexy look is a little worn-out. I sang "La Isla Bonita" on a Madonna TV special on France 2, six years ago. I have a very active fan base on the Internet, and my performance was put on YouTube, and there were two million views, including from people in Mexico who went completely crazy over it. That's how I became a star in Mexico. My version of "La Isla Bonita" became number one on Mexican radio, and I performed in a huge stadium there. They have a more spontaneous entertainment culture, and I love to go there, but I need bodyguards with me."

Teki Latex & Lio, "Les Matins de Paris"
"Teki Latex, from the band Institubes. We were looking for remixers for the singles from my previous album, Psychédélices, and David Rubato sent me a version of "Fifty Sixty" that I just loved. So I met the manager of David's label, Jean-René Etienne. He told me that he could find composers for me for my next album. I listened to some samples from Chateau Marmont and Rob, and I was captivated. I'm not huge on electronica, but these musicians proposed some samples that I just loved. As for Lio, I like "Banana Split" and "Les brunes comptent pas pour des prunes." She's had a good career. Popular yet strong-willed. I don't know what I'll be like at her age. I'm a singer, so it'll depend on who I work with in the future."

Mylène Farmer, "Libertine"
"I owe her a lot, of course. It was a real opportunity to meet the two of them, her and Laurent Boutonnat. She was a well-known, established singer, who took me under my wing when I was 15, when they noticed me on M6, on the TV show Graines de star. She protected me a lot, until I separated from her when I was 19. Thanks to her, I've been able to experience some really incredible things and sell a lot of records. I learned a lot, artistically speaking, as well as in business matters--I'm now a producer on my albums. I didn't feel manipulated by the songs she wrote for me; I was 15, I liked the songs, the clothes I wore were fine... When I realized the double entendres in the songs, it didn't bother me, because the lyrics were very well-written. In the end, though, I did get the impression that I was a product, and so I started suggesting things that were more personal and less sexy, and that's where our differences began. We separated, however, on good terms."

Vanessa Paradis, "Joe Le Taxi"
"When you love pop music, you dream of a career like hers. She began even younger than me. Before "Moi... Lolita" exploded on the scene, I was warned: Vanessa got taken advantage of because of her young success. She had to clean up the mess, but I've been lucky that things have gone well for me. I didn't have a normal adolescence, but at least I had one. Despite my success, I still lived in Ajaccio. When I had to go to Paris, my mother came with me. I took classes by correspondence. But when I reached #1 in 22 countries with my first album, I had to stop my studies, while I was in 11th grade. You can still learn culture on your own, and in any case, even with a diploma, people still aren't finding jobs these days."

Julien Doré, "Moi... Lolita"
"A musician from La Nouvelle Star sent me a message one afternoon to tell me that he was going to do a remake of the song on the prime-time show that evening. When I watched him on TV, I didn't think he was making fun of me at all. I don't know if he was making fun, and I don't really care. I'm not a fan, and a lot of people thought he massacred the song. It got talked about a lot, and Mylène and Laurent must have made a lot more money. I sold two and half million copies of that single, the 29th-best selling French single of all time. I didn't touch any of that money until I turned 18. I even got to #9 in England and I did the Top of the Pops! In Japan, it was "J'en ai marre" that made the top of the charts. To release an album there, you have to do certain things, like associating the music to something else, so I did a TV commercial there for some Japanese cookies along with the song. That's how the song got big there, and people started listening to it in the streets of Tokyo."

Mika, "Relax (Take It Easy)"
"I sang this song at Les Enfoirés, with Christophe Maé, Patrick Fiori and Nolwenn Leroy. Les Enfoirés is very exclusive. I did it in 2001, when I was 16, and have done it four times since then. It's the exclusive club of French showbiz and French variété. A big change from Institubes. I want to make this big change, even though in France it can be complicated. Still, it's good to be interested in a bit of everything."

Bob Dylan, "Like a Rolling Stone"
"When I was little, I was sung to sleep by the Beatles, Aznavour, Joe Dassin, Simon & Garfunkel, but not Dylan. New folk, Carla Bruni? No. I listen to it, I mean, I bought Charlotte Gainsbourg, but I've done 15 years of dance, and I prefer music that really moves. I'm not so much into the bohemian culture. It moves a lot of people, but it's very French, very Parisian, and my culture is more pop, I'm from a more middle-class, provincial background. I lived in Corsica until I was 18. Dylan talks about Edie Sedgwick? Jean Fauque's the one who talked to me about her."

Bashung, "La nuit je mens"
"Here's one written by Jean Fauque. He wrote "Fifty Sixty" for me, inspired by the New Yorkers like Sedgwick, or Maripol, her stylist sister who rubbed shoulders with Jean-Michel Basquiat, Blondie, and also Madonna at the time. I met Maripol through Mylène, and she gave me some bracelets that Madonna used to wear. I then met Jean Fauque. It wasn't until much later that I learned that they were brother and sister! They came to dinner one evening at my place, where Jean told us some of his anecdotes, and I understood that "Fifty Sixty" was about these people from New York City. I liked the theme and the lyrics, so we said, why not make an album around Edie Sedgwick, from the Warholian universe? I'm not at all like them, with the drugs and everything, but it's still fascinating, not for their way of living, but for the excitement of that group of people and of New York City."

Taxi Girl, "Cherchez le garçon"
"This is one of the sounds that I love. Mirwais had worked with Madonna, and Daniel Darc worked with me. I met him at the Plan, the concert hall in Ris-Orangis (a suburb of Paris). I went to his concert because I liked his album Crèvecoeur, and I asked him to participate in the Psychédélices album with Fauque and Burgalat. So he wrote two songs for me, really dark ones, completely different from my own universe..."

Kim Wilde, "Cambodia"
"A big hit from before I was born. I don't think she had many hits? After the success of "Moi... Lolita," I was very afraid of disappearing from the music scene. I put my confidence in Mylène and Laurent, that they would write other hits for me, but when I left them, I was really worried; like Nena (whose song "99 Red Balloons" I sang in Mexico, by the way), being a one-hit wonder. So I'm trying to not do songs that are too complicated, but at the same time being ambitious artistically. Psychédélices was a disque d'or in France, but people had written it off as a failure. I was fortunate to be able to count on the Mexican music market, which was huge. I did a TV scene in a soap opera there, which was seen by 75 million people!

Lorie, "Play"
"when you make music for children, it's hard to disassociate yourself from that. I waited until 2003 to do my first real concerts, seven shows in a row at the Olympia. I didn't really know what my audience would look like, and I was even afraid that it would mainly be kids. But it was a very diverse crowd: kids, parents, gays, young people my age, 18-year-olds, everyone. My fans have grown up with me, whereas with Lorie, it's still pretty much young kids. I did see that she wanted to change, and that she's done some sexy photo shoots.

Chateau Marmont, "Diane"
Rob, "King Lover"
"I'm very glad to have escaped from the whole 90s showbiz scene with them, and the relationship I have with them is just great; it's a very human relationship. On "Coeur fendre," Chateau Marmont proposed several versions to me; some sounded very Nintendo-like, others sounded like Moroder. They have a large palette of music, and a very recognizable sound that I love. Like Rob, they are very good with melody, which is so important--that's what I love, and that's what the public gets hooked on. I don't understand why they don't sell very many records. Surely it's because they were slapped with a trendy label and not a bohemian one. It used to be, "the fewer records I sell, the more respect I'll get", so they got slapped with that label, when all they really wanted was to sell records, which they really deserved. I hope that with my album, people will get more interested in them. I'm proud that they are using me to reach a wider audience. As for me, I worked with them not to be trendier, but for the quality of their sounds and their melodies. If I become more trendy, that's fine, but I don't want to give up my mainstream status!"

Jeanette, "Porque te vas"
"One of Rob's favorite songs. He wrote "La candida" for me with this one in mind. I like to sing in Spanish, so if my Mexican fans like it..."

Lily Allen, "Fuck You"
"I was still listening to the album in the car on the way here! The sound could be a little better, but the songs are really good. Listening to her songs, I said to myself that that's something I could sing now; I see lots of things in common with my own tastes. And she's gotten a lot of exposure now, so it's a good comparison--even if she has a trashy side that I don't have, maybe because she's English. I've never taken drugs, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and at first, they wanted pass me off as a naughty girl, but no, I'm too modest for that. I don't know how these trashy people do it. That wasn't in my upbringing. Maybe it's holding back my image for now, but not for the long-term. I want to be here long-term."

Scruffydog777
01-01-2013, 02:49 PM
Do you think by MF/LB she was happier? look on the most perfomances, most of ML... look to her face... in most time you could see there she was bored to perform again and again Moi Lolita, she did it just cause she must do it. I think only things which enjoyed were the many trips to countries like Japan and Korea and of course En Concert. Only in concert I had the feeling I saw the real Alizee, with fully energy, with passion to enjoy the time with fans. But in other perfomances she was just like wood doll. Or look to really only live perfomance of ML in Italy, did you saw she enjoyed it much? well... in the begginning I find she would be like better away.

You should go to look into the mirror... one time you are telling how is Sony making the great job with album and promoting her with DJ sets, and on another day you are saying 100% opposite things. And really dont put every problem of Alizée, but on Sony too.... Like Lefty said, look how they react when was leaked first video, 100% blocking everywhere, the same was by Psyche with Fifty-Sixty when it was leaked. Do you think Alizée wouldnt like to share with us if she could? Sony has the 100% control on everything from music to so little thing like cover of album.
Look to to MF era... Alizee-Italia asked photographers of single covers if they could get original photos. Answer? "We have not the rights for photos, only label" .
So Sony too have the fully control, they can and they have fully right to tell Alizee what she can and cant post.

Why you all here werent so active to crizing her by UEDS? there she and they made much more then by this project?

If most of you dont like what she is doing, you should stop hear and watch her by the end with MF like the others "fans", who were really Mylene fans and not Alizees

I've been working nights, weekends and holidays, outside for most of my career in the hope of having comfotable retirement. Alizee is stuck with singing the same songs, doing the same dances for about 4 years at the end of which she was probably set for life and you expect me to feel sorry for her?

As far as me saying one thing one day and something different the next about the promotion, well I've been saying the same thing all along. Sony is doing a tremendous job of promoting her but she put's nothing into it.

Her cancelled concerts in Paris were blamed on poor promotion so you would think, she wouldn't want that to happen again, but she just doesn't get the picture. These gigs are to win back old fans and win new fans and the best way she can do that is with the beauty that is still left. Somebody really needs go give this girl a swift kick in the behind and tell her if she's not going to put any effort into it, don't waste Sony's time. There time would be better spent promoting an artist who appreciated it and used to their advantage.

Karin
01-01-2013, 03:20 PM
I've been working nights, weekends and holidays, outside for most of my career in the hope of having comfotable retirement. Alizee is stuck with singing the same songs, doing the same dances for about 4 years at the end of which she was probably set for life and you expect me to feel sorry for her?

As far as me saying one thing one day and something different the next about the promotion, well I've been saying the same thing all along. Sony is doing a tremendous job of promoting her but she put's nothing into it.

Her cancelled concerts in Paris were blamed on poor promotion so you would think, she wouldn't want that to happen again, but she just doesn't get the picture. These gigs are to win back old fans and win new fans and the best way she can do that is with the beauty that is still left. Somebody really needs go give this girl a swift kick in the behind and tell her if she's not going to put any effort into it, don't waste Sony's time. There time would be better spent promoting an artist who appreciated it and used to their advantage.

yea... poor promotion... but whos fault it is? Alizee? No, but her that time manager, label and other companies which work is to do promo. Only thing which should Alizee do, would be appear into a promo video, but thats again work of label and other companies.
And about to get old fans... hah... the old "fans" where most fans of Mylene... you could see it very good in many reportages about concert... where they asked people realy WHY they go to concert, and many answers "... Mylene Farmer".

I dont blame MF/LB work on Alizee... but really... soon it will be 10years... its really gone... without accepting it how it is and comparing everytime what is in present and what was in past it cant work.

Azhiri
01-01-2013, 07:29 PM
I think Sony IS at a bit of a fault here. If the situation is as urgent as we think it will be for her career, they should see that too and make it clear to her that she needs to step it up. If her laid-back approach to promoting the new album is not good enough, it's their job to tell her so. If they're not doing that, and this album turns out to be a flop, it won't just be on Alizee.

To be honest, compared to what I see from other artists with other labels, Sony's promotion and the way they've handled this album so far is kind of a lukewarm effort.

I totally agree.

Thinking about it... what I don't get it why it takes Sony so long to release the name of the album... the cover is one thing but that we doesn't even know the name yet is a bit weird considering that they want to release the album on the 25th February.

In 2010 at the same time we already had cover and name and one month more left until the album release than we have now.

I agree.. It seems really strange that they'd release and have her perform a single for an album that we pretty much know next to nothing about, not even a name.

lefty12357
01-01-2013, 08:30 PM
If you think about it, it seemed Sony was ramping up for the album promo a long time ago. There was the single and the online sale of the deluxe album package. Then it seemed like everything came to a grinding halt. Next we were waiting for what seemed like forever for the video. I’m still convinced the original plan was for an autumn 2012 release of the album and something delayed it.

I’m looking at my receipt for the Limited Edition album package. It is dated July 12, 2012. The delivery date says October 1, 2012. So the way I see it, there definitely was a delay, and both Alizée and Sony had to back off on promo during this delay. It’s likely it will ramp back up soon, assuming there are no more delays. I suppose this was Sony’s doing. The question is, is Sony just doing a poor job of managing this release, or was there an unexpected and legitimate reason for the delays? One can only hope that the delays were necessary in order to put out a better product.

SpanishFan
01-01-2013, 08:55 PM
One can only hope that the delays were necessary in order to put out a better product.

I am not sure, but I think they did not redo the album. And even if they did, it would not take that long to improve a nearly finished work.

My guess is that there was an "autumn theme" or concept for the whole album that maybe was scrapped.
Or perhaps some legal issues with contracts or companies that did not allow them to release the album before 2013.

Aldighieri
01-02-2013, 08:38 AM
Sony is taking the feeds about our preorder money that's why.:13:

Scruffydog777
01-02-2013, 01:32 PM
yea... poor promotion... but whos fault it is? Alizee? No, but her that time manager, label and other companies which work is to do promo. Only thing which should Alizee do, would be appear into a promo video, but thats again work of label and other companies.
And about to get old fans... hah... the old "fans" where most fans of Mylene... you could see it very good in many reportages about concert... where they asked people realy WHY they go to concert, and many answers "... Mylene Farmer".

I dont blame MF/LB work on Alizee... but really... soon it will be 10years... its really gone... without accepting it how it is and comparing everytime what is in present and what was in past it cant work.

Well in most cases you would be absolutely right. Normally the failure of an album or a concert (that's if the music was good to begin with) would lay with the label doing the promotion and not the artist.

But they say the Psych concerts failed because the tour manager didn't promote them well enough. Then with UEDS, she couldn't even schedule a concert. So she should be inquiring into every aspect of this album if she truely wants it to succeed.

She should remember the words of the great stateman George Bush; " Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." (Sorry George).

Seriously though the correct proverb does apply here; "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.". If this album fails due to lack of promotion, she will be just as much to blame as Sony. I think more so in my opinion.

You can say as far as promoting her, Sony might be doing some things in different directions, but you cannot say they aren't trying and in my opinion, they are trying tremendously hard and there is still over a month and a half to go. I'm sure we'll see a lot more in the way of a promotion effort from Sony, but I'm also sure we'll continue the to see the same lackluster effort from her.

But I have to take into account the grueling schedule she has; 9 am to noon, shopping for designer clothes; 12 to 1, lunch with dancerman; 1 to 5, tatoo session at Rin tin tins; 6 to 7 dinner with dancerman; 7 to 8, slip into the crappiest outfit you have and go to dj gig set up by Sony........shower optional.................on second thought why bother; after 8pm......................video games!!!!....Youpidoooooooooo!

We also have to consider she still hasn't recovered from that grueling trip to Japan with that ball and chain that her evil boss Mylene had attached to her leg. I'd still like to know how they got that past security.


The only thing I blame Sony for is the tatoos. The Alizee of today, is not the same Alizee that first went to their studio to discuss a new album and I wonder if it might have had an affect on their decision if they knew then what they know now.

Still I can't really fault them, because most of these tats came in a flurry which probably caught them off guard. Plus I see the video and Sony made no attempt to hide them, in fact it almost seemed like they tried to focus on them so maybe they feel they're a good thing; something that will appeal to the younger generations.. I'm really confused about that at this point and I posted before that it could just be my views on this are way behind the time, but like I said; I'm not going to watch that video again.

Getting back to what Lefty said; he's right that they'd have a big problem with her holding up untauthorized pictures connected with this album, but do you think if she went to Sony and asked them for an "authorized" picture, they would refuse???????????? But that will never happen, because that would show she cared and she doesn't.

EDIT:
The one big difference between Moscow and now is this album hasn't come out yet. If this album has some very good songs on it, it probably wont matter if she get's covered with tatoos and never showers again. But if it's an average album like Psych, it will need all the help it can get; including good promos, beautiful videos and a singer who show's to the public she cares.

lefty12357
01-02-2013, 04:21 PM
My guess is that there was an "autumn theme" or concept for the whole album that maybe was scrapped.
Or perhaps some legal issues with contracts or companies that did not allow them to release the album before 2013.

Yes, or perhaps there were too many other releases scheduled for the autumn. It's usually a bad idea to have too many releases all at once, competing for a limited amount of euros in a tough market.

Karin
01-07-2013, 05:03 PM
Do you want a copy of Inked Mag with Alizée? here!

http://freewaymag.com/boutique/anciens-numeros_62_inked_.html

User22
01-08-2013, 01:52 AM
Thanks Karin. I'll buy one so I can burn it!

You've reached new heights Scruff :))

foxy
01-08-2013, 04:57 AM
although I don't really like tattoos, I have to admit there are some nice frontcovers from Inked magazine

couldn't Alizee do something like this one, instead of the creepy horror thing :/

http://freewaymag.com/boutique/lib/timthumb.php?src=/boutique/client/gfx/photos/produit/couvinked-isasmall_799.jpg&h=430&w=320&zc=1&q=100http://freewaymag.com/boutique/lib/timthumb.php?src=/boutique/client/gfx/photos/produit/INKED13_GDs_959.jpg&h=430&w=320&zc=1&q=100

Scruffydog777
01-08-2013, 08:51 AM
I should have posted that in the other thread...................my bad................I'll move it. Please remove the quotes if you don't mind.

Melle Katherine
01-12-2013, 07:31 AM
I don't understand why do you think that the pics in the Inked Magazine are creepy... they aren't... maybe if she were covered by blood for example..well, it would be creepy. Btw these are just pictures..

Scruffydog777
01-12-2013, 05:07 PM
Maybe I'll pick up a few copies while I'm in France for anyone who might want one here, but doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for shipping. Lord........what in the world am I saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karin
01-12-2013, 06:14 PM
Maybe I'll pick up a few copies while I'm in France for anyone who might want one here, but doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for shipping. Lord........what in the world am I saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shipping was big 0€ ! :D

Karin
01-14-2013, 02:07 PM
today!

http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/ed9651725e4d11e28a7322000a1fa414_7.jpg