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lapinschous
02-23-2013, 07:41 AM
http://www.alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?26285-Aliz%E9e-Backwards&p=877972#post877972

When you hear it , you'll shit bricks... :omg:


Edit:

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x1u04f"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1u04f_backmask-alizee-moi-lolita_music" target="_blank">BACKMASK - ALIZEE MOI LOLITA</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Lefrenchie70" target="_blank">Lefrenchie70</a></i>
We can hear the word "demon" so well that I doubt that's a coincidence OO) :shock:

This supports my theory of Laurent Boutonnat being a freemason... Remeber the All-seing eye and the pyramid of trinity in "J'en Ai marre" music video... :rolleyes:

And I've also backmasked the song Abracadabra with audacity... believe me , it sounds like freaking black magic incantations!

SpanishFan
02-23-2013, 08:21 AM
Why do you always post a link to a thread in AF instead of copypasting in here the same thread you made there?
It is not a problem for me, I am just curious;)

Karlalizee
02-23-2013, 09:05 AM
Yes lapinschous, why? WHY?:cry:

lapinschous
02-23-2013, 09:21 AM
ok ok ^^ Edited

SpanishFan
02-23-2013, 09:54 AM
I think there is a small mathematic chance that if you listen backwards a lot of songs, you could listen to some words in one of them.
I did not know about these claims of LB and the masons... Any more clues about that?

Bigdan
02-23-2013, 11:39 AM
I think there is a small mathematic chance that if you listen backwards a lot of songs, you could listen to some words in one of them.
I did not know about these claims of LB and the masons... Any more clues about that?

and what if he is mason? That makes him friend of the demons? :D

lapinschous
02-23-2013, 03:26 PM
Well I don't know, but from times to times he sure looks like disciple of Aleister Crowley... This is him when he was 17 http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf4bo6ovrg1qzzyhgo1_1280.jpg

And here what i found on the first page while searching for his personality and mental health.


http://data.imagup.com/10/1176316929.png

http://vaderetromesatana.tumblr.com/page/18

Corsaire
02-23-2013, 10:57 PM
Well, I do not subscribe to the backmasking interpretation that is provided here. Many artists did/do use backmasking and some have openly used it for comedic of defiance effect (Styx, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra...). Those cases are well documented. But the general problem with backmasking is that unless it is very obvious, the evidence is usually pretty weak. I can come up with 3 or 4 different backward lyrics that would fit ML better than what has been provided here.

Despite this, it is obvious that LB work is laced with symbolism, occult and recurrent mind control references. His influence is what made MF and Alizée’s career. MF and Alizée have basically been LB’s puppets, but the fact is that most people don’t really want to know about that sort of stuff. When people become fans of popular icons they typically want simple, out of the box images, they don’t want complex multifaceted concepts with people pulling strings behind the scene... They don’t want to see the man behind the curtain.

Future Raptor Ace
02-23-2013, 11:17 PM
I think there is a small mathematic chance that if you listen backwards a lot of songs, you could listen to some words in one of them.
I did not know about these claims of LB and the masons... Any more clues about that?
Small? No no no; it is almost a mathematical certainty that when you play a given song backwards that you will find some comprehensible words with meaning.

Corsaire
02-24-2013, 12:15 PM
“The main point here is that this guy basically used Mylene to create something, she is his art “thing”, and he has clearly stated this many times.”

Actually, the fact that MF was LB’s “thing” is quite obvious when one analyses the work he has done with her. Puppetry and mind control were heavily used concepts in MF’s career. LB basically used MF as a puppet that he could manipulate so to serve his art.

For example, many interpretations of the Sans contrefaçon video have been put forward. Myself, I believe the concept is rather simple: it shows LB’s inner conflict which results from using MF as his puppet:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x29bis_mylene-farmer-sans-contrefacon_music

Below is a video where LB discusses MF’s direction during the Giorgino movie. At 1min, you can see how he uses his hands as those of a puppeteer manipulating an inanimate object when talking about directing her. He also mentions talking little to MF on set and the need to position her by touching her. LB reflects on this, saying: “It was very weird stuff”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rr_CAQxmAk#t=1m00s

Euphoria
02-24-2013, 02:04 PM
Mylene is fully aware of that. Just listen to the song "Et tournoie."

lapinschous
02-24-2013, 03:16 PM
Myself, I believe the concept is rather simple: it shows LB’s inner conflict which results from using MF as his puppet:

At 1min, you can see how he uses his hands as those of a puppeteer manipulating an inanimate object when talking about directing her. He also mentions talking little to MF on set and the need to position her by touching her. LB reflects on this, saying: “It was very weird stuff”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rr_CAQxmAk#t=1m00s

Holy cr*p! It's so obvious when you see his body language, he really considers Mylène as his "thing" ... :13:yeah a puppet is the best word describe the way he interacts with people under his command... and I suspect it was probably the same regarding his behavior with lili.. He must have really powerful psychologically persuasive skills... Such a smart mind.. to me, he's both fascinating and scary :fear:

Bigdan
02-24-2013, 04:54 PM
My message to Lapinchous :

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/375781/375781,1251127964,2/stock-photo-stop-sign-reading-say-no-to-drugs-35814409.jpg

:D

Future Raptor Ace
02-24-2013, 06:29 PM
My message to Lapinchous :

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/375781/375781,1251127964,2/stock-photo-stop-sign-reading-say-no-to-drugs-35814409.jpg

:D
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Uh7l8dx-h8M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Corsaire
02-25-2013, 01:32 AM
@lapinschous
Yes, LB’s body language is quite revealing... and there are plenty of other evidence that show MF was basically his puppet. I think Alizée was also his “thing”, but maybe not the same way MF was.

@Euphoria
Myself, I don’t see how ‘Et tournoie’ refers to this particular subject (even with the "pantin translucide" reference). But I would say that MF definitely knew that she was used as a puppet. After all, it was pretty obvious. I believe she just went along with it because she saw an opportunity that she never could have had without LB.

Rev
02-25-2013, 02:56 AM
MF needed guidance. LB provided it. She is the performer. He is the orchestrator.

AJ needed guidance (to have the path laid out for her to follow)... :)

lapinschous
02-25-2013, 03:05 AM
Bigdan, Raptor...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3025844224/h94E66000/

Corsaire
02-25-2013, 10:42 AM
Rev, don’t forget that LB is a very, very strange individual. You cannot think and analyse his work and his influence as you would analyse that of an average type of guy. There are pretty dark and occult concepts in there. All evidence seems to indicate that, for LB, MF was not so much a performer, but rather an instrument. She was more like an “object” that could be manipulated and controlled. This is not figuratively speaking; this is a real case of a man who used an artist in a way that she becomes a puppet serving his art.

I don’t believe LB approached the Alizée concept the same way. For starters, Alizée was quite different from MF and I am not sure the “puppet” thing would have worked very effectively. Nevertheless, I think he still did use some concepts that are related to mind control, as in the JPVA and PTB videos.