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Scruffydog777
10-25-2015, 11:33 PM
I was looking for some interviews I thought might be worth translating, when I came across some I hadn't seen before. Now one thing I noticed in some of the videos I saw was the posters name of "Alizee Revival" Now it seemed to include videos from Stars a Domicile. Now several Stars a Domicile videos had been removed from Youtube recently because of a company taking over the rights to the videos from the show. I had wondered why would they take them down, considering they are from years ago, unless they have plans to do something with them themselves. I'm not sure what's going on here, but I think it might be some incredibly great news as far as her older videos. Her Stars a Domicile videos seem to be back up and that was such an incredibly great story of hers. It will be interesting to see what follows.
I'm looking more and more through this channel and there seems to be more and more videos I've never seen before or at least not seen in their entirety.


I see also that one of these videos have been blocked by Germany of course...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcoAcbmoKZI

Stars a domicile has also been blocked

I was able to finally install Youtube downloader and download the ones I haven't seen before or ones I hadn't seen in their entirety. It will be interesting to find out who's behind this channel.

I see that all the videos on this channel had been uploaded in the past 4 days.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyaBE2ukqPTiZAAV0oVlVcg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMgN4nUphtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xXDbAFvzLk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVkuVHAWJkE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_kJ-2CJIFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ned9vgHmTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf4oGl85MdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URY9Ngrl1hU

Shepherd
10-26-2015, 01:03 AM
Scruffy, on the last video you posted, "Interview ITW de la Semain JDM," Alizee spends some time talking about Mylene Farmer. She even laughs a little during those comments. I would love to know what she is saying. In this video, Alizee is really irresistible.

Scruffydog777
10-26-2015, 01:26 AM
I'll definitely do something with these videos. Maybe I'll put them together into one video with the translations.

This is one I've always loved because she looked so happy and had such a beautiful smile on her face. It's a video I had before that was part of the performance, but this reminded me of how much I liked it. It might be a week or two, but, I'll get it done and I believe I mentioned before, I was able to download the ones I hadn't seen before and ones I hadn't seen in their entirety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fKtHaawMw

Scruffydog777
10-26-2015, 11:00 AM
A thought came to mind this morning. Comjoz said he was making "video creations" by Matrix or at least that's what I believe it was, available to us, but maybe one of the two created this channel to post "interviews".

So three of those were ones I haven't seen before. The Gourmadises one, I saw the performance, but not that interview that went with it.

EDIT: I got a message from a member of AIFC that the show Stars a Domicile, will be coming back in 2016 and that's the reason the videos have been taken down. It will be run by TF1 and they'll probably have a page like they do for DALS where you can watch clips of previous shows, but you have to sit through their commercials and not many people will probably want to do that.

Aldighieri
10-26-2015, 07:38 PM
Are some blocked? I can't download jNM playlist..

Scruffydog777
10-26-2015, 09:50 PM
I believe anyone who has a Google account can access and download the 9 files I downloaded along with some other recent ones I put in my drive.

The 9 files are in this folder
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzKkKGF2lV3xQVJsV3Y5UUNNMWc&usp=sharing

Episode 9 of Dals is in there too (3.5 Gb)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xVDRUOTE1djZ1TWM/view?usp=sharing

A Maire-Do interview
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xQTBXbllaRjVWVmc/view?usp=sharing

Alizée prank call to Jenifer
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xVFg2czBEaFItcVE/view?usp=sharing

Alizée dans Nos chers voisins (Comedy tv show)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xcjNaRkRLTmc1TTA/view?usp=sharing

50 min inside a star interview
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xWmhET2syT0c5QWM/view?usp=sharing

My Alcaline En Concert video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xZTZBWjlBWWgxLTQ/view?usp=sharing

Rev
10-26-2015, 11:35 PM
I was able to access them but, not having a Google account, I was unable to download them.

Scruffydog777
10-27-2015, 12:07 AM
Do you have access to the DC hub? If you do, I'll put them in there. Either way, I'll put them in eventually. If not, why don't you e-mail me because I might have another way you can get them.

Looks like they are still uploading videos to this channel, but as of now, the recent ones have been performances which I already have.

Ray4AJ
10-27-2015, 12:17 AM
These (Revival! that you listed) are all on the hub already, most in better resolution. Except for maybe the last one, the "interview Wetten Das" but I'll look for that tomorrow.

Rev
10-27-2015, 12:56 AM
Do you have access to the DC hub?....


I think I have to reboot that computer, but yes. :)

Scruffydog777
10-27-2015, 07:51 AM
I think I have to reboot that computer, but yes. :)

Wait till tonight and I'll try and get them on there. I'll put them in a folder called recent files or something to that affecet (effect? Never could get those 2 straight.). Actually if you want to hold off, I'll hopefully be able to get the better quality ones from Ray and I will get translations for some of them and embed subtitles in them. That will be a another week or so. I'll also put the Dancing episode files in there too.

C-4
10-27-2015, 11:29 AM
Dave,
Thank you for posting what you have searched out! I am only able to view what the site offers, but it brings back great memories. A big Hello to all here. I miss being able to access the site more often.
Stephen

Chuck
11-01-2015, 08:44 PM
A big hello to Dave, and to Stephen, and to everyone! Thanks, Scruffy, for posting those historical vids, I done downloaded em all. I must say, the "revival" in the header drew me in, didn't know what that was about.

C-4, love ya -- what's your trouble with accessing? You're not using ATT as your ISP, are you? Well, in any case, keep rocking that sunshine state!

Scruffydog777
11-02-2015, 10:30 AM
Hey Chuck......good to hear from you. Ray found some better resolution vids of some of those that I posted. I will try and post them tonight. It's such a busy time for me. I'm trying to put the DALS videos on DVDs and trying to finish an interpretation of the SAGA program, but running into lots of problems, but I'll get it done sooner or later.

flavor flav
12-08-2015, 05:55 PM
I thought I'd check with a fan to see if someone can post on youtube these two songs. The audio to Volbeat's Lola Montez would be amazing if it was paired with Alizee's dancing/video J'en ai marre. Timing of both songs is the same length.

Alizee's J'en ai marre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6fuPQ-294

Volbeat's Lola Montez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CspafvAui4

Scruffydog777
12-09-2015, 12:22 PM
I thought I'd check with a fan to see if someone can post on youtube these two songs. The audio to Volbeat's Lola Montez would be amazing if it was paired with Alizee's dancing/video J'en ai marre. Timing of both songs is the same length.

Alizee's J'en ai marre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6fuPQ-294

Volbeat's Lola Montez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CspafvAui4

Right now I have about 4 different projects I'm working on, I could get to it eventually, but it might be quite a while.

One guy you might want to contact if you have a Facebook account and if you're not on his bad side is Robert Rhein. He lives in Florida (for Facebook Identification purposes). He has a goal of creating 1,000 Alizée video and he has well over 600 at this point, so if you give him an idea, that would make the job easier for him and I'm sure he'd run with it. If you don't have an FB account, I could contact him for you if that is what you'd like. He's pretty good at doing it now. He certainly has enough experience.

Shepherd
12-10-2015, 12:09 AM
Right now I have about 4 different projects I'm working on, I could get to it eventually, but it might be quite a while.

One guy you might want to contact if you have a Facebook account and if you're not on his bad side is Robert Rhein. He lives in Florida (for Facebook Identification purposes). He has a goal of creating 1,000 Alizée video and he has well over 600 at this point, so if you give him an idea, that would make the job easier for him and I'm sure he'd run with it. If you don't have an FB account, I could contact him for you if that is what you'd like. He's pretty good at doing it now. He certainly has enough experience.

I wonder if Alizee is aware of Robert Rhein, and if so does she ever responds to fans who are so ardent. I've seen Robert's videos of Alizee all over You Tube.

Scruffydog777
12-10-2015, 03:21 AM
I think she probably is aware. I know he's one of Jo Jacotey's Facebook friends as well as a lot of other people including me. He is now also a member of AIFC (Facebook) which seems to be one of the most active sites out there. One of the persons who runs it is Fany Larremme who is in Nice (just a hop, skip and a jump away from Corsica) , a beautiful young lady who works in some capacity with a cd company and apparently has met Alizee a couple of times, but it might have been just very casual meetings similar to Alizee just bumping into a fan or it could be something more. But I would think Alizee has to be aware of AIFC and Rob Rhein.

Ray4AJ
12-10-2015, 08:25 PM
But I would think Alizee has to be aware of AIFC ...

I'm sure she's impressed.

https://www.facebook.com/aifclili/posts/775210172624931
http://i.imgur.com/taNwjDW.png

Scruffydog777
12-11-2015, 03:30 AM
Well of her English speaking forums and FB pages, Alizee-Forum could boast of or maybe I should in the past could boast of thousand of members. If you look at the first picture below, that's more indicative of what goes on in that forum today and our forum isn't exactly a hotbed of activity either.
AIFC is incredibly active. The pictures in the bottom 2 rows are much more typical of what they are about. I've pm'd Fany on a couple of occassions and I doubt very much that this had her approval, but I decided to not do nothing and instead try and be a part of the solution to this problem I felt it needed, so I pm'd her and I'll paste below what I said. I tried looking through their pages for that picture and I could not find it. It might have already been removed. It also could be their page is so active, that so many posts have been made since then, that I just didn't get to it.
I think their page does a great service for Alizee and I think they have good standards which I think will be proven when I get my reply from Fany, if it hasn't been done already by the removal of that picture.
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg482/david_hardy2/aifc%20ghost%20town_zpsypvudz13.jpg (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/david_hardy2/media/aifc%20ghost%20town_zpsypvudz13.jpg.html)

"Hi Fany. I hope you and everyone at AIFC are doing well. I mentioned your FB page in our forum the other day and someone posted a picture that had been posted on your page which I will attach. Now there a lot of great pictures of Alizee out there that are sexy, but this goes beyond that and I'd have to say I think it's kind of vulgar and I'm sure that's not what your page is about. In fact I looked through your Facebook pages and I think it may have already been removed. I have a lot of respect for what you and the others at AIFC do for Alizee and I just wanted to let you know about my concerns. I hope you all have a great Christmas!"

Ray4AJ
12-11-2015, 06:31 AM
Still there at this moment.

https://www.facebook.com/aifclili/posts/775210172624931

Indeed. Perusing all the posts there, reading some of the post coments, I can't quite discern what that group is 'about'. I guess I'm missing something, as usual.

Scruffydog777
12-11-2015, 08:22 AM
Well my main point is they are promoting Alizée quite a bit, in fact, I'd say a lot more than any other site and that's something she desperately needs, especially if an album wont come before 2017 if it comes at all. In a lot of cases they say negative publicity is better than none but in the case of AIFC which I visit quite often, the "vast" majority of what gets posted is good material.

Lucas
12-11-2015, 08:31 AM
I have my own opinion about AIFC, and its not good. Many times they posted fake Alizee pictures, I mentioned the pics are fake and they deleted me. They cant accept negative comments, however they are true, ex. that her music carreer is (or can be) over.

Posting old pics of her and screencaps from videos is fine, but thats not the Alizee who she is now. And when you look on comments, you can see what kind of people are liking their group and page. Most people who see Alizée just like a beautiful sexual object, or who know her just from Lolita era. I doubt most of them know more about her.

Fall
12-11-2015, 10:35 AM
her music carreer is (or can be) over.

you can see what kind of people are liking their group and page. Most people who see Alizée just like a beautiful sexual object, or who know her just from Lolita era. I doubt most of them know more about her.

I think this may be why. Her music career with MF/LB was a once in a lifetime chance or opportunity which she chose (for reasons that we still don't 100% clearly know) to leave behind. Her music career with the J-man was exactly that, part of her marriage, of their relationship, something which deteriorated. Her music career on her own was tough. UEDS, 5, Blonde didn't do well at all and it just seems to me that she had had enough of being asked about Moi Lolita and MF at almost every interview.

When she took up dancing, being able to free herself from the music for a while, coupled with finding love with the G-man, it was the easy and happy way out. She gave Blonde a chance, and it didn't work. By the time the concerts were cancelled I'm sure she had already given up.

Yes, there are many of us who buy her albums and singles and collect things and take trips to see her, but there are simply not enough. Not from a business point of view at least, and there are too many of those ^ people Lucas mentioned. People who will Like a post, but not buy a concert ticket. And in the end Alizée is going to do what makes her happy. It sucks, it really sucks for the rest of us, but it appears to me that she might or might have already put her music career as well as the fans, the diehard fans, behind her.

I can't really blame her for doing what makes her happy. That's what life is all about. I'm sure she still appreciates us all, I certainly would like to still meet her one day, take a picture and get an autograph. Or ten. :D

Scruffydog777
12-11-2015, 11:28 AM
There's still a lot I don't know about AIFC. When I first found out about them, I heard they had banned Fan Doki I think his forum name is for things such as what Lucas mentioned above cutting and pasting her pictures in a sexual manner. Then I think he was readmitted. I'm not sure what his status is now and there seems to have been some other feuds going on in the Facebook world; maybe some forums too, but from what I've seen, they've been doing Alizée a lot more good than harm.

No site is perfect and I challenge anyone to go to the AIFC page and look through all their posts ( and there are a lot of them) and tell me that overall, they are doing Alizée a disservice.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/alizee.AIFC/

Ray4AJ
12-11-2015, 08:08 PM
First of all, I think Fall's observations are probably accurate.

In recent weeks I've been wondering what benefit Alizée even gets from fans' promotional efforts. Maybe in a different universe with a different Alizée things would be different but with this Alizée what effect does it have? I've said before that most of the fan promotion is like a group of people trapped in a room together showing each other the same pictures and videos over and over. Then when Alizée shares something herself, the fans just show that to each other. Then the tabloid blogs make cute little articles about her posts too.

No amount of promotion is going to sell any more copies of Blonde. And it's too late for that anyway. So what's the point? Sure, we're in the middle of any possible album cycle so this would normally be a quiet time. Sure, fans interacting with each other can keep the dream alive.

My point ^^ : Fan pages and whatnot on social media don't promote Alizée. It's all just 'preaching to the choir.'

And I'm not specifically talking about any particular page or group or fan now. Alizée has not asked once for anyone to promote her. I'm sure she appreciates the gestures but probably long ago figured out that it does nothing for her.

Maybe constantly reliving her days working with MF and LB keeps fans enchanted. It doesn't seem to do much to drive purchases.

I think a forum can much better serve a new fan's quest for knowledge and create a deep interest in Alizée than any "Future of Fandom" Facebook page can.

New fans = more sales opportunities.
Lolita fans = more of the past.

Scruffydog777
12-12-2015, 03:09 AM
Well a forum such as ours or like Alizee forum in themselves probably do little to promote Alizee for in order to find out about these places, you have to find out about Alizee first, but I feel Facebook is a very different story. I not only post things concerning Alizee on the AlizeeAmerica Facebook page, but I also share many of them on my page and I'm sure many others share them on their own pages where they are exposed to many relatives and freinds outside of her fanbase.

Now this exposure certainly isn't going to sell many albums or bring in a whole flock of fans, but it will bring in some fans and I feel that is very important in replacing fans we are losing. But the main things we are doing and they are doing is keeping a core base of fans close. If she saw the same type of thing that's going on in AF where fans have given up, going on in here and on Facebook, would there be any motivation for her to even attempt to put out another album? I doubt seriously if she needs the money and I'm sure she'll have enough work through Disney and other gigs to keep her satisfied. In other words if we give up, I think she will give up.

I don't want that to happen. After seeing the way interest in AF was dying, I had contacted Ray to discuss ways to keep interest up here and we came up with some ideas and luckily there has been enough from what we've been doing, but more importantly with what Alizee was doing to keep interest up. Back months ago when it looked like interest was dropping off in Alizee, I stumbled across AIFC's Facebook page. I couldn't believe the level of activity that was going on there and it's ongoing. I'm sure Alizee notices it and it must please her that there is still a lot of activity from her fans and I highly commend this site for what they are doing and I'm very thankful they are around.. If a risque photo comes out once in a while, it is usually the exception and not the rule

Now myself, I will probably be disillusioned if she doesn't appear in Les Enfoires (and not because I have tickets) because I love to see her sing and dance, even if it's not to her own music. It makes the wait between albums tolerable. I could wait 5 years for an album as long as she was in LE each year. Unfortunately I think once the DALS tour (I believe there will be a tour) dates are announced, Alizee will then determine whether she will be in LE or not and I'm not expecting a favorable outcome to that. Worst part of that happening is if it happens this january coming up, then there is a very good chance it will happen the following year. That could be a crushing blow for me and my following her,

But until that announcement is made, there's no sense in worrying about it. Will I lose hope is she doesn't appear in it? I'm not sure. I'm tempted to say that will be the last straw, but I find it hard to imagine I might just quit cold turkey one day. I think it might be a long slow fade to black. But until what happens, happens, I'm staying the course and doing my best to still promote her in ways that may not sell many cds, but hopefully, will help keep that core base of fans, close to her.

Rev
12-12-2015, 03:43 AM
She can skip one weekend with Grégoire. I'm betting on her being in LE. :)

Ray4AJ
12-12-2015, 06:36 AM
I'll touch on the DALS and Enfoires items in the Enfoires thread.

Getting back to AIFC.... Sure, Alizée might be aware of the group, but that doesn't mean she is impressed or even cares.

I tried that link https://www.facebook.com/groups/alizee.AIFC/ but this is all I saw.

http://i.imgur.com/iKPfJnVm.png

I guess you have to give your life to Facebook to be a fan of the future. :confused:

Anyway I tried to cheat but the group isn't open and public.

http://i.imgur.com/WnzpIHXm.png

It's closed and private. No Alizée for me. Nor for any people just curious to know more about Alizée. More promo points for the group. :thumb: So I still can't see how amazing it is.

But on the regular page I saw photos that looked like they were personal photos lifted from private pages and not intended to be shared. Also some photos with Annily that Alizée never posted. Alizée has never posted a photo that shows her daughter's face. Why would a fan? Also proudly displayed are photos taken from other fan pages and sites and then re-branded with the AIFC logo. Maybe there are other things there, but this is what stands out to me.

They certainly are a prolific bunch. But sometimes quality over quantity is more pleasant.

Maybe I'm still wrong, but I can't get past the disrespect and attention seeking. And everyone in love with Lolita.

Anyway, the last thing I want to do is to tell anyone how to be a fan. This fan isn't interested in being a part of that. I've said too much already and I'm hoping that I don't let myself get drawn back in. Sorry for the interruption.

alizeefan
12-12-2015, 05:39 PM
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Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 03:47 AM
Well this is posted on AIFC's Closed group page ".........@Mellealizee (Alizée Official) supports our page " Alizée International Fan Club (aifc..................."

Whether that's Alizee herself or someone connected with Alizee I don't know, but it shows someone close to her knows of their efforts.

Now I've been to their Closed Group page and I didn't realize till today, they had a community page. This is where Ray found the revealing picture. Now I took the time today to go through all the posts available on each site. They both go back about a week and there were about 30 videos or pictures posted on the community page and over 100 on the Closed group page with around 5,000 likes on each!!! and of all the pictures and videos, there was the one risquee picture in question.

Now one other thing I thought to do today is look at who some of their members are. I was in for a shock. It made me realize I was consorting with the devil and all his disciples. There were names like:
Lefty Daniels
Aaron Logsdon
Christian Corse
Chez Paulo
Doron Shemaya
Melle Katherine
How could I have been so blind to such evil????? We're fighting ISIS when it's obvious AIFC is the real enemy!

I think I've probably had after years of struggling, one of the highest standards for the way things are run in here. Of the mods, ,me and Ray are far more active than the others. When something comes up, I either post it in the moderators forum or contact Ray directly, because I don't have any powers to do anything about it myself and contacting Ray gets the quickest response.

In the past year, I've contacted him when I thought someone was using language that I thought was unacceptable for this forum. On another occassion, I contacted him when I thought someone's signature was questionable and another occassion where I thought someone's comment to another was of a threatening manner.

As far as Annily, if Alizee doesn't want pictures of her displayed , she shouldn't have her on stage with her as she did with a group of kids that was being filmed and she absolutely should not have allowed her to be in a fashion show. Hello!!!!!... People take pictures at fashion shows and usually a lot of them, even if it's just a fashion show for charity. Face the fact that some will get posted. We wont allow it in our forum, but it doesn't really surprise me or upset me, if they show up in other forums as long as it's done in a nice way.

And as far as everyone being in love with Lolita, I don't know how you get that from their site. They cover all aspects of her career, from Psych to DALS, to Les Enfoires, to SAGA. MCE and Gour was the most successful, the most beautiful part of her career and it's not surpising that people might want to discuss, to remember that part of her career more than the others, but there is still plenty of material and discussion of all other parts of her career.

As far as private pictures, it they are posted on the net where everyone has access to them,then they shouldn't be surprised when other people steal and use them. With one of my videos that I put a lot of work into, I found out how others had taken them, then put their own mark on them. Afterwards, I put a lot of work into K.O. and a good amount of work into Alcaline En Concert . I still refused to put my mark on them because I want what ever fans who like them to enjoy them to their fullest, but I knew, that left them opened to being hijacked again. It's a price I pay and we pay for using the internet. I just deal with it.

Now if I had the power, I would never allow that picture that was posted in AIFC to be posted here. But that is their page and it's a European page. They have different views than we do. Maybe that's acceptable to them. I had actually contacted Fany months before about a picture one of their members had posted on his own site,

"This is a picture that I saw he posted oh his own page yesterday. I don't think its a very flattering picture for Alizee, but it is his own page"

and as I had mentioned before, I had contacted her concerning this recent post, but that will probably be the last time I contact her, though I may contact one of the other mods. Fany's Engish is limited, so I'm not sure she even understands the messages I send her. But like I said, it's their forum. I shouldn't be the one who has to tell them how to run their page. One picture out of over 130 posts and we're supposed to condem this site? Not me. It's not a perfect world out there. I'm still learning aobut them, but I still think they are doing a great service for Alizee and I give them 2 thumbs up.

Lucas
12-13-2015, 06:03 AM
Well this is posted on AIFC's Closed group page ".........@Mellealizee (Alizée Official) supports our page " Alizée International Fan Club (aifc..................."

Whether that's Alizee herself or someone connected with Alizee I don't know, but it shows someone close to her knows of their efforts.


Such thing can write everyone, that Alizée is supporting them, and it can't be true. How do you really know how it is?

Then each fanpage, person, company, which Alizée is following on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram can tell the same.

Now I've been to their Closed Group page and I didn't realize till today, they had a community page. This is where Ray found the revealing picture. Now I took the time today to go through all the posts available on each site. They both go back about a week and there were about 30 videos or pictures posted on the community page and over 100 on the Closed group page with around 5,000 likes on each!!! and of all the pictures and videos, there was the one risquee picture in question.

Now one other thing I thought to do today is look at who some of their members are. I was in for a shock. It made me realize I was consorting with the devil and all his disciples. There were names like:
Lefty Daniels
Aaron Logsdon
Christian Corse
Chez Paulo
Doron Shemaya
Melle Katherine
How could I have been so blind to such evil????? We're fighting ISIS when it's obvious AIFC is the real enemy!

From when are likes a definition of something good? About group, its hard to call it "likes", cause most people were added there by admins and members of the group. I realized I was added there just half year after they added me there, and I really not liked what they were posting, so I removed myself. Surprisingly they added me again, again and again.

And about likes. Alizée has near million likes on her Facebook, and what she has from it? Just cca 4000 copies of Blonde sold. So some 5000 likes group, where maybe most people have no idea who Alizée is, or they know her just as Lolita, is really nothing.

There are real fanpages who make their work, informing about Alizée, sometimes something extra. RMJ's AlizéeArt, Alizée-France, and however its hard to believe I will say it, I count Psychealizee too, and until last year A-life too.

I think by AlizéeArt and Alizée-France we could really say Alizée is supporting them. She knows RMJ, she used many times his pics. She knows and met Cynthia from Alizée-France many times, she commented sometimes their post on their Facebook. And A-life, when while interview in DALS they showed Alizée a pic posted by Karin, she recognized it and she seemed to really know about A-life.

As far as Annily, if Alizee doesn't want pictures of her displayed , she shouldn't have her on stage with her as she did with a group of kids that was being filmed and she absolutely should not have allowed her to be in a fashion show. Hello!!!!!... People take pictures at fashion shows and usually a lot of them, even if it's just a fashion show for charity. Face the fact that some will get posted. We wont allow it in our forum, but it doesn't really surprise me or upset me, if they show up in other forums as long as it's done in a nice way

Yes, Annily appeared in many events where everyone could see her, or find her in photos. But we know Alizée's opinion about sharing Annily's photos, most where her face is seen. That we already saw her doesnt mean, we can share her pics. If fans cant understand this, they are not good fans, cause they would respect it.

Btw... I heard long time ago very interesting things (of course in bad way) about your favourite Fany, from very very very trustworthy person.

Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 08:11 AM
You're absolutely right about what you said about mellealizee. Anyone could post something like that. But from what I've seen of AIFC so far, I think they do her a lot more good, than harm. Maybe time will prove me wrong, but so far I'm okay with what they are doing.

EDIT: I'll have to contact Lefty to see if maybe he was just added to their membership without his knowledge or if joined voluntarily. I'll send him an e-mail to make sure he notices.

I see RMJ mentioned. I've met him a couple of times in fact, we've gone out for drinks together on two occasions when we went to see Les Enfoires. Now it was mentioned how people take other people's pictures or videos and put their own mark on it. RMJ has snuck in a big SLR year after year into Les Enfoires shows, which is against that shows rules. He gets away with it by the fact the show is always in January and you have to pack a big bag of clothes for the wait outside and he hides it in the bottom. So essentially he's stealing pictures from the show. Is it because they are of Alizée and they do her good that nobody cares how they were obtained.

He's told me stories of how he's lied his way into some of her events and then gotten some great pictures, but again, because it's of Alizée is that okay?

If someone on AF asks RMJ why he puts his monogram on all his pictures, that's the pictures he stole, they will receive a quick F. U. in response instead of saying something like "I work hard to get these pictures so I feel I have the right to" and that has happened on more than one occasion.

He told me how easy it was to steal train rides on the French rail system, but in one of Alizée events in recent years he said he hitchhiked across France to get where ever the event is and I'm quite sure he probably was caught too many times on the trains without a ticket. I've traveled the trains system often. I've seen people get nabbed for not paying. They grill them like they were trying to steal the Eifel tower. So if he hitch hiked it was probably because if he was caught stealing a train ride again, he'd go to jail. So I hope he's not being used as an example of things good for Alizée.

In fact if you ask Ray about this, I'm sure he'll agree, He may have ruined our chances to get into the last autograph session we both attended in Paris. I had met with the other two members of AAm with the rep from the FNAC record store and she seemed a little upset with me that there were two other people with me, because initially I had met her by myself.
While we were in Paris, I got an e-mail from RMJ saying he wanted to be with our group. He was almost in tears about the potential of seeing Alizée and wanted us to "lie" by saying he was our photographer. Now Jenny was there too with 2 other members of AF. After we got RMJ's message, we (AAm) discussed it and we thought that might be too many and we thought maybe allowing one of their members to join us. Now RMJ had just been to the autograph session at Rin Tin Tins and he was going to some of the autograph sessions in other cities that followed this one, but he had to be at this one and never said maybe we could try and get one of the other members in. He just mentioned getting himself in. We thought it would be great to get Jenny in. We would have loved to have seen that.

So on the day of the autograph session we showed up at FNAC and there he was with the AF members at the counter where we were supposed to meet the FNAC manager. Now they wound up saying that Alizée ran late so she couldn't autograph our cds before the regular autograph session. Then they said, she might be able to do it after the session and then afterward she couldn't do that, I forget if the reason they gave us was because she was tired or it was too late or maybe the real reason is they thought there were too many people with us. I think we all suspected the latter. So I hope no one here is trying to use RMJ as an example of good things, because if they are, they don't know the rest of the story.

Like I said, I will contact Lefty. I would be very concerned if they did just add his name to their membership.

EDIT: EDIT; I sent a pm to Lefty. I'm sure he'll reply as soon as he gets a chance.

lefty12357
12-13-2015, 12:16 PM
Just like Lucas, I've been added to groups without my knowledge. When a lot of Alizée groups were first being formed, I also added myself at times. When groups are in their infancy and have no track record, one just assumes they are there to support Alizée. I have since removed myself from several groups, and yet I have been added back to some without my consent. I can't even tell you which ones. It's a lot to keep track of and I have a lot of other things going on. Thanks for the heads up on this one. I guess it's time to clean house on Facebook again...

Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 01:28 PM
So it looks like Lucas was right they are adding names without peoples knowledge, probably to boast that they have a large number of members. I'm very, very disappointed with that. That's dirty pool, but still at this early stage of "learning" what this site is about, I still like what I think they are doing for Alizée.

Paybays
12-13-2015, 07:52 PM
People are finding out RMJ is an asshole and did nothing to support Alizee except for a website that covers up all the bad things he is doing?

I have yet to see any use for a facebook fanpage while Alizee is slowly going into the books as a star from the past. It wasnt easy to give up my ticket to attend the autograph session in Paris. I was all alone, knew nobody and as soon as someone would know who I was irl I would get lynced.

Im not here to bash RMJ i am past that stage but I am here to defend my status as a true fan and not just someone who tries to get Alizee her attention by trashtalking or making her feel uncomfy. My letter has been gone for over a month now and still no reply. And thats fine with me. Im afraid I have to let all the fansites go because barely a handfull are actually doing something. I have yet to be invited to alizeegroups on facebook but i am trying to keep my privat profile out of the internet. RMJ and I have a rough past and so does the whole AF crew.

Holing she will be at LE and hopefully someone wants to share their tickets with me and a hotelroom so I can get my wish come true.

Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 08:02 PM
Paybays, I hear your concerns. I'm very afraid I wont be able to attend Les Enfoires in January. If I can't go, I will very willingly give you my tickets for either show or both shows on one condition. You video her and nothing but her. Just let me know what show you want to go to on the 22nd or the 25th. If I am able to make it, maybe we can go together. If I can't go and she is in the show, I will even pay for your hotel room. All I want is to see videos of her and nobody else. We can wait for the dvd to see videos of the other singers.

Paybays
12-13-2015, 08:11 PM
That would be generous but I couldnt go alone. And I would not know how to get a professional videocamera in there or to get one.

I should be asleep but I have been browsing aifc and to be honest its what attracted moet fans back in 2000. Her sexy moves detailed by Bizz made half of AF like her. I like her music. Paris would only be a 3 hour trip for me with the Thalys if it isnt bombed

I would love to go and hear her sing just once i couldnt care what she sang. But not alone.

Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 08:16 PM
Well let's keep in touch about this. Maybe there is a way I can make it, or maybe there is a way another member can make it such as Bigdan or some other member. Alizée is too important for us to give up hope. You don't have to have a professional camera. All you need is a steady hand, something I'm having trouble with since my surgery. If need be, I will send you a camera too.

Paybays
12-13-2015, 08:23 PM
Dont lay to much pressure on me :) I would be willing to share the costs and spend what I have saved up and my christmas money on seeing her sing. Im on welfare right now and im trying my best to safe some money in case Alizee would do another tour or something.

I have the feeling I been living to much in the present world where I have been preparing myself for a family that didnt happen. Im regretting so much things in my life and one of them is not hearing Alizee sing. I have nothing with LE except for the theme and Alizee. Even if she would do a solo which lasted one second I would still be happy

ALS
12-13-2015, 10:07 PM
Paybays, we all have our own opinion of RJM, lucky for us we don't have and didn't have those kind of problem children on this site. After being a fan for over 11 years I've seen them come and I've seen them go. Although there are a few, very few from AF if I was Alizée I would have restraining orders on them. :)

Scruffydog777
12-13-2015, 10:13 PM
There is no pressure. If I can't make it and I supply you with tickets, I would hope you could supply some videos of her. But if you find yourself there and you find yourself so mesmerized by her, that you cant take video of her and can only watch her, what I would expect of you is to describe every moment of that experience

Rev
12-14-2015, 02:46 AM
For awhile Alizée's team did have a flag on RMJ. So, there is a real possibility that his presence at Scruffy's meeting could have been a deciding factor. :13:

:)

Paybays
12-14-2015, 03:15 AM
For awhile Alizée's team did have a flag on RMJ. So, there is a real possibility that his presence at Scruffy's meeting could have been a deciding factor. :13:

:)

I am pretty sure and convinced that is the reason why they didn't let them in. He's is still to much obsessed with her and the story scruffy posted was really nice and interesting. He didn't change a bit.

Scruffy, I know you have been a pilot, but I have no clue how rich you are to do all this stuff. I'm Dutch, but that doesn't mean that dutch people like everything free. It would be devastating and make me feel very awkward to just accept stuff like that from you without making any video or something related for the forums or anything else.

The tickets back and forth will be well over 200 euro's so I need to find another way to get some money before the whole show happens.

Scruffydog777
12-14-2015, 01:19 PM
First I'd like to apologize to the "forum" for what happened last night. I try to make this forum a good place for all members and visitors to come to. I treat everyone with respect. I make mistakes all the time. When I get teed off about something, I'll look for a way to find a peaceful solution, but last night, I felt disrespected by someone I've done a lot for and proposed to do a lot for and I lost it. I was wrong. I should've been a stronger person and found a way to clear the air, but I failed.......again.

Again.......my apologies!

I am by no means rich. I'm not poor, but far from rich. When I fly, there is a fee we have to pay based on mileage. It's not cheap, but it's affordable for me.

Of course it's great to see her in person, but one of the main reasons I go is to get video of her. I love seeing her sing and dance and until a new album comes along, the best place for that is Les Enfoires. Now the dvd that comes out each year has to focus on everyone and you never know how much Alizée is going to be in it. Look at this video that I put together. About half of these are fan videos and to me they're priceless. I can't count the number of times I've watched these. So I want to do what ever I can to make sure she gets filmed.

Look at the time I went to Ajaccio just for one day to film her autograph session on her birthday. I did it because I thought nobody else would be there to film it and I was right and I got some great videos

I also made another trip just to see her performance with Olly Murs singing Dear Darlin. I did it because I thought there might not be anyone there to get a good video of her. In that case, I was wrong. There were plenty of videos that came out after, but it was great to see her perform.

So giving away the tickets to someone who will try and get some videos of her means nothing to me and if that happens and something goes wrong and they don't get good videos or any vidoe, que sera, sera. I've had things go wrong. It would be no big deal

I see the doctor tomorrow to get my shoulder evaluated and probably then or the day after, I will have a good idea whether I'll be able to go or not.




https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzKkKGF2lV3xdGJVZ2dlZVoxdVU/view?usp=sharing

Paybays
12-14-2015, 01:59 PM
Maybe we can make a banner... I have always wanted to let Alisee know old fans still exist. To be fair I should grab this chance in case it wont cost me to much and I can afford it. Im probably the oldest sane living fan that hasnt twisted his brain.

Taking a crap right now while listening to ACC. And now its Parler tout Bas ... the tears :( And i have that dvd of les enfoires and shes not on that to much :(

Scruffy your behavior is... well... let's not discuss that here :)

Scruffydog777
12-14-2015, 02:56 PM
Now that I've cooled down (No I haven't!) If you guys still want to pursue the lanyard, I'm in or how about a pennant? Maybe that's what Paybays meant by banner? As opposed to most banners, pennants are usually of a triangular shape. I think that would be cool with the right design.

Paybays
12-14-2015, 03:21 PM
Now that I've cooled down (No I haven't!) If you guys still want to pursue the lanyard, I'm in or how about a pennant? Maybe that's what Paybays meant by banner? As opposed to most banners, pennants are usually of a triangular shape. I think that would be cool with the right design.

No a banner in case I/we/whoever goes to LE :P

Scruffydog777
12-14-2015, 04:32 PM
Well if you want a banner for L E, then I suggest putting a Moor's head on it. I think that would definitely get her attention if you were near the stage or at some point part of the show was near you for they definitely like to go into the crowd at certain points.