View Full Version : Experiencing an Alizee Comeback.
newalizeefan
12-13-2006, 03:29 AM
most of us know she went silent during 2002 (if i remember correctly) and came back 2003.
now for the people that experienced that time period from her moi-lolita period ---> 2002 break ---> 2003 come back.
how did it feel when she cameback?
did u guys get news of her comeback or did it just happen out of the blue?
and were websites accurate on info about her comeback (if there were websites about it)?
Great question! I would also be interested in how this news was passed on.
Seapaddler
12-13-2006, 07:30 AM
The reason for the break then and now is like black and white. The circumstances are totally different regarding her return now. So many unanswered questions hang in the air, her return in 2007 will be a huge sigh of relief and won't compare to her return in 2003.
aFrenchie
12-13-2006, 09:11 AM
The reason for the break then and now is like black and white. The circumstances are totally different regarding her return now. So many unanswered questions hang in the air, her return in 2007 will be a huge sigh of relief and won't compare to her return in 2003.
I would tend to think the same! :)
SupaKrupa
12-13-2006, 10:18 AM
I'm reading all this stuff about her comeback and then I came upon Snatcher42's little story about the Indochine concert thingo. Man... that was so exciting hahaha.
Someone tell me what it was like to experience her comeback!
nurvonic
12-13-2006, 03:00 PM
The reason for the break then and now is like black and white. The circumstances are totally different regarding her return now. So many unanswered questions hang in the air, her return in 2007 will be a huge sigh of relief and won't compare to her return in 2003.
probably, that is almost definately 100% certain that her 2007 comeback would be stupendous. i didnt experience Alizee's 2003 comeback first hand cuz i was busy skipping school, but this 2007 comeback is gonna be gargantuan
CFHollister
12-13-2006, 03:06 PM
probably, that is almost definately 100% certain that her 2007 comeback would be stupendous. i didnt experience Alizee's 2003 comeback first hand cuz i was busy skipping school, but this 2007 comeback is gonna be gargantuan
We hope...
If it were up to us, her loyal around the world, undoubtedly so.
I'm just worried about how the French music scene will treat her. Will they give her the respect she deserves without Mylene's guiding hand?
Matrix
12-13-2006, 04:14 PM
I wonder if her next album will have the first song sung in english like her first song on the album Mes Courants Electriques?
How can her comback this time be huge? Laurent Boutonnat is not making the music
People.. remember.. this time her music is going to sound alot different. Who is writing her music this time? Not the lyrics.. the music?
Who is producing her music?
CFHollister
12-13-2006, 04:23 PM
I really doubt that her first song will be in English... her first priority is definitely France. Plus, the first track was in English only on the international version of the album; the French version was all French.
What you're saying about the music is true. But at this point it's a shot in the dark guessing what it will sound like. Though it very well may be different, it also might be somewhat similar... another "wait and see" scenario. On thing that might help to limit how different it could be is the fact that Alizee loves to dance and perform for an audience. I think she would more than likely insist on music which wuold allow her to continue to do those things.
aFrenchie
12-13-2006, 04:24 PM
I wonder if her next album will have the first song sung in english like her first song on the album Mes Courants Electriques?
Not on the first original editions in France anyway. Even MCE still has not even one English song on it here:
Amazon.fr results (http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_ss_w/171-1557439-1193010?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=aliz%E9e+courants&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go)
I don't know how much time it will take to be edited abroad. And it depends on the overall success!
EDIT: CFHollister, you've been faster than me :)
Matrix
12-13-2006, 10:48 PM
Lol :) and all this time I thought Alizée was doing something special for us english speaking people. I got an international version of Mes Courants Electriques? sigh :(
I purchased it on amazon.fr , yeah I want the original album she put out in france.
I would rather have the french version of Mes Courants Electriques, guess I gotta go back to amazon.fr and buy it again. What does the french album version of Mes Courants Electriques look like?
Lol :) and all this time I thought Alizée was doing something special for us english speaking people. I got an international version of Mes Courants Electriques? sigh :(
I purchased it on amazon.fr , yeah I want the original album she put out in france.
I would rather have the french version of Mes Courants Electriques, guess I gotta go back to amazon.fr and buy it again. What does the french album version of Mes Courants Electriques look like?
French version has exactly same songs that are included in International release. Tho, international has 4 EXTRA songs (the English songs are the extra songs).
French release has only 11 songs while International has 15.
And what comes to look of them... Well... They looks exactly the same. :blink: Or well, they have one tiny difference. International has white line going around the front cover which French version does not have (and of course international has lyrics for the English songs in booklet)... So, I don't much see point getting the French version unless you are collecting all the versions of the albums.
Here is French and International side by side:
http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/bilder/discographie/album_mescourantselectriques_france.jpghttp://www.alizee-fanpage.com/bilder/discographie/album_mescourantselectriques_international.jpg
HibyPrime
12-13-2006, 11:00 PM
I thought this was the international version:
http://www.douban.com/lpic/s1471431.jpg
Twitch
12-13-2006, 11:06 PM
Same as the international version but without the white border on the front. The copy I bought here in Canada was the French version, not the international version. I guess they imported the French version and didn't bother to wait until the international version came out. Amazon.ca is still selling the French version, not the international. link (http://www.amazon.ca/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Frn-Alizee/dp/B00008NR5X/sr=8-1/qid=1166068564/ref=sr_1_1/702-4798047-2154409?ie=UTF8&s=music) Notice the track listing as well as the FRN in brackets showing that it is the French and not International version. If that's not proof enough my Friend ordered it and he got the French version, with none of the English tracks on it. But amazon.com also has MCE with only the French track listing as well, but I can't vouch for it actually being the French version without the English tracks.
EDIT: Guess you guys were quicker than me, and that is the Asian versian of MCE Hiby.
HibyPrime
12-13-2006, 11:16 PM
EDIT: Guess you guys were quicker than me, and that is the Asian versian of MCE Hiby.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up!
Matrix
12-13-2006, 11:19 PM
I thought this was the international version:
http://www.douban.com/lpic/s1471431.jpg
That's what I got HibyPrime. Inside was the International Mes Courants Electriques, and two more discs... a J'en ai marre and Moi Lolita video cd single and a Japanese or Korean lyrics booklet
Well when i go back to amazon.fr I will just make sure I get the Mes Courants Electriques album that is entirely in french
Rocket
12-13-2006, 11:29 PM
I'm going to go with the attitude that she's not coming back. That way, if she never does, I'm satisfide with what I have. If she does, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
CFHollister
12-13-2006, 11:59 PM
That's fairly depressing, Rocket. I think her comeback may not be as soon as we would like, but I feel it is deffinitely at hand... I'd say within the next 6 months.
maareek
12-14-2006, 02:59 AM
and a Japanese or Korean lyrics booklet
Without doing any looking into it, I'd be fairly sure it's Japanese. If you can post a scan of the booklet or something I can tell you for absolute sure. Or RMJ or somebody who knows can tell you.
And I think Rocket's attitude is brought on by all the rumors and so forth we've all heard for quite a while. I'm sure more than a few people have come pretty much to that feeling, because in the end that's where we should all be. If she comes out with new material we should feel honored and happy. If she doesn't, we should be grateful for what we've gotten. Expecting or not expecting the new album shouldn't change that.
Seapaddler
12-14-2006, 03:07 AM
I'm going to go with the attitude that she's not coming back. That way, if she never does, I'm satisfide with what I have. If she does, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Hopefully 10 years from now we can call these her classics. It would be very sad indeed if she was never able to realize her potential.
I thought this was the international version:
http://www.douban.com/lpic/s1471431.jpg
That's Korean release. And it has 16 tracks (16th is Moi... Lolita).
That's what I got HibyPrime. Inside was the International Mes Courants Electriques, and two more discs... a J'en ai marre and Moi Lolita video cd single and a Japanese or Korean lyrics booklet
I doubt you got Korean version because it's relatively rare (not Japanese for sure since they got whole another looking release ! ).
Your version is most likely Taiwanese Deluxe release, which is like the one in the image but with little additional text. It has also those two bonus discs. And 7 photo cards (which 4 has lyrics printed on the other side of them).
Korean Deluxe release (the one in the photo) has only 5 photo cards but it also includes tiny mouse pad.
Altho, if you actually did got the Korean Deluxe release, then be happy ! People are paying over 40 euros of it on eBay ! It is one of the most wanted releases there is.
newalizeefan
12-14-2006, 04:20 AM
well rocket. i sometimes get that attitude once in a while. i think im more vulnerable to that type of attitude considering i have never experienced anything alizee. i became a fan in 2006 and she was inactive and all i was left with was a bunch of old-alizee material from the internet. hopefully her comeback is soon so that im there to experience it. i mean that day when theres a topic here saying "ALIZEE'S NEW ALBUM COMES OUT" or single whatever, i want to actually experience that (considering it wont be a joke). i cant even imagine how id react if/when that happens.
btw. look at how this thread drifted off-topic. lol
Twitch
12-14-2006, 12:39 PM
Korean Deluxe release (the one in the photo) has only 5 photo cards but it also includes tiny mouse pad.
Altho, if you actually did got the Korean Deluxe release, then be happy ! People are paying over 40 euros of it on eBay ! It is one of the most wanted releases there is.
Are you talking about this release? Mes Courants Electriques [Import] (http://www.amazon.ca/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Alizee/dp/B0000C6IA5/sr=8-9/qid=1166117447/ref=sr_1_9/702-4798047-2154409?ie=UTF8&s=music)
This is it's descritption:
Sophomore album for the French teen pop-star. This Asian edition adds one exclusive bonus track 'Moi...Lolita' & a bonus VCD with two tracks, 'Moi...Lolita' & 'I'm Fed Up'. Also included is a 5 inch mousepad with Alizee's photo plus 5 postcard size picture cards. Standard jewel case & slimline jewel case housed in a slipcase. Universal. 2003.
Watch it sell out now before I get a copy...
Rocket
12-14-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm more afraid for the ones who are waiting for her to come back as she was. A wide-eyed innocent with an awesome voice. She wanted to let us know that in her second album. It was sort of a 'no longer a child - not yet a woman'. Now she's a woman and if she comes back I (for one) hope she comes back with an 'in yer face' attitude. LOL Come back at kick some butt Aliz'ee.
newalizeefan
12-14-2006, 04:37 PM
i liked her music during her lolita era.
i liked her music during her MCE era.
i think without a doubt im gonna like her music when she comesback.
Are you talking about this release? Mes Courants Electriques [Import] (http://www.amazon.ca/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Alizee/dp/B0000C6IA5/sr=8-9/qid=1166117447/ref=sr_1_9/702-4798047-2154409?ie=UTF8&s=music)
Yeah.
Interesting that Amazon has gotten more of it. If it really is the right version. Tho, it wouldn't be first time when Amazon has wrong description for an item. Especially since the Taiwanese and Korean version are almost identical. And well, shipping time is said to be 1 to 3 weeks which means that they have trouble getting them to be send (not in storage).
But if it really is the real Korean release, then it's nice thing to have for collectors. :)
DJ_Greg
12-15-2006, 12:35 AM
So, I don't much see point getting the French version unless you are collecting all the versions of the albums.
I decided to get the original French version because the international version puts the English versions in place of the French ones, bumping the original French songs to the end. I wanted the "MCE experience" in its original form, not a CD that bounced between redone English versions and French songs.
If the international version had the English songs at the end, instead of interspersed among the French songs, I might have gotten it instead. As it is, I don't think the English versions compare to the original French, so I don't really regret not having them.
To each their own, I guess...
As it is, I don't think the English versions compare to the original French, so I don't really regret not having them.
Umm... Only INT and IFU doesn't compare with originals...
But Youpidoo beats it's original version anytime and Amélie is at bar with the original version. :)
CFHollister
12-15-2006, 02:54 AM
Umm... Only INT and IFU doesn't compare with originals...
But Youpidoo beats it's original version anytime and Amélie is at bar with the original version. :)
I dissagree about Youpidou. I think the english version changes the meaning of the song too much. In the French it seems to be about escaping some asshole, hence "Youpidou." In the English, its more about not holding onto a non-commital relationship; that added to "Youpidou" in this context, Alizee comes off as almost cruel in this context. Nah, I like being able to feel protective of Alizee agianst this imaginary asshole, rather than broken hearted by her leaving me in an imaginary all-to-short relationship.
Well, atleast the English version makes sense, unlike the French one which is plain non-sense.
And what's the more important, it sounds better !
DJ_Greg
12-15-2006, 11:45 AM
Umm... Only INT and IFU doesn't compare with originals...
But Youpidoo beats it's original version anytime and Amélie is at bar with the original version. :)
I don't hear what you (and some others) do in the English Amélie...for me, there's just no comparison to the original.
I can listen to INT (I like how she sings "I'm not twenty...") and Youpidou, but I don't bother with the other two. Like I said, to each their own, I guess. ;)
Well, INT is the worst of them all. :blink: I mean... It's total nonsense !
Only thing why one can listen to it is Lili's voice. Without Lili, the song would be total flop. But Lili saves the day. :)
Amélie is good English rendition. Yeah, you can still tell it's not the original but it's very well done anyways. And it really is almost even with the French version. Both are very beautiful songs.
DJ_Greg
12-15-2006, 12:26 PM
Well, INT is the worst of them all. :blink: I mean... It's total nonsense !
Only thing why one can listen to it is Lili's voice. Without Lili, the song would be total flop. But Lili saves the day. :)
I would say the same can be said for all four. The French versions are just superior in every way, and that's really all there is to it.
Nope, they aren't superior. Like said, Youpidoo is better than Youpidou. :)
And Amélie is equally good as AMD.
her accent in Amélie kills me .. I love it.
I think the French versions are better songs, but I enjoy listening to the English versions a lot.
nurvonic
12-15-2006, 03:01 PM
all Lili songs, whether it be french or english, are great;)
Amelie
12-15-2006, 04:21 PM
i love Amélie English and i love Amélie M'a Dit French. i think, i prefer the French version, how it sounds...but i prefer the English version lyrics, they are so sensitive, so beautiful!
i think, French versions are better than English versions, Alizee seems like not Alizee in English versions and i don't like that way.
Sir Wood
12-15-2006, 06:14 PM
Are you talking about this release? Mes Courants Electriques [Import] (http://www.amazon.ca/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Alizee/dp/B0000C6IA5/sr=8-9/qid=1166117447/ref=sr_1_9/702-4798047-2154409?ie=UTF8&s=music)
This is it's descritption:
Sophomore album for the French teen pop-star. This Asian edition adds one exclusive bonus track 'Moi...Lolita' & a bonus VCD with two tracks, 'Moi...Lolita' & 'I'm Fed Up'. Also included is a 5 inch mousepad with Alizee's photo plus 5 postcard size picture cards. Standard jewel case & slimline jewel case housed in a slipcase. Universal. 2003.
Watch it sell out now before I get a copy...
This is the same one I bought from Amazon US (http://www.amazon.com/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Sacrifice/dp/B0000C6IA5/sr=8-8/qid=1166224050/ref=pd_bbs_8/103-0612294-6017444?ie=UTF8&s=music) and did not receive the "included is a 5 inch mousepad with Alizee's photo plus 5 postcard size picture cards."
I didn't complain at the time because I was just so excited to have received the CD and had to immediatly hear them.
But like RMJ said, it's not the first time that Amazon has the wrong description advertised. Look at their En Concert DVD (http://www.amazon.com/En-Concert-Alizee/dp/B0006BLIYA/sr=8-11/qid=1166224050/ref=pd_bbs_sr_11/103-0612294-6017444?ie=UTF8&s=music).
But if you want the original French version, go a head and get them. Though I'll just set up a playlist to mimic their order. ;)
BTW, I ordered the above DVD a couple days ago and it has a delivery date of Feb 2007. :blink: Lili's new CD might be out by then! :eek: (Aha, here's to hopeful wishing.)
Lastly, anyone know why the price discrepancy between the En Concert DVD and CD, with the CD costing more, or did I order wrong?
CFHollister
12-16-2006, 05:19 PM
her accent in Amélie kills me .. I love it.
I think the French versions are better songs, but I enjoy listening to the English versions a lot.
I also love Alizee's accent in I'm Fed Up... its sublte but precious. The part that gets me every time is how she says "water" by actually pronouncing the "t" as /t/. Any native english speaker (that I've ever heard) converts this to a /d/ or what is called in phonetics a "flap" (similar in almsot any medial "t" like "bottle," "throttle," etc.). Anyway, all that phonetics speak asside, I just think it's cute as hell. She's trying so hard to get the pronunciation right, that she ends up over shooting.
This is the same one I bought from Amazon US (http://www.amazon.com/Mes-Courants-Electriques-Sacrifice/dp/B0000C6IA5/sr=8-8/qid=1166224050/ref=pd_bbs_8/103-0612294-6017444?ie=UTF8&s=music) and did not receive the "included is a 5 inch mousepad with Alizee's photo plus 5 postcard size picture cards."
I didn't complain at the time because I was just so excited to have received the CD and had to immediatly hear them.
Yea, this is the problem. And it's caused by lack of information. People still thinks that there is only one "Asian release" when in reality there is half a dozen of them.
So, the Korean and Taiwanese releases gets mixed all the time. Even people who has them don't always know which one it is because they can't recognize Korean and Chinese language (even tho, it should be very easy since they have not much in common). And stores, simply don't care. They just calls it "asian release" most of the time. Or simply "import" version.
Of course this isn't problem for normal people who just wants the CD. But to collector it is pain in the ass. You want to buy something specific and you end up getting something that you have big pile already.
I originally got my Korean edition from individual seller. He was selling it as "Taiwanese" edition but since he included full description what was inside the packet, I knew right away it was the Korean version and bought it away, at ridiculously low price since not many are interested of the "Taiwanese" version.
HibyPrime
12-16-2006, 09:28 PM
I want an Alizée mousepad :(
I want an Alizée mousepad :(
I'll trade my Alizée mousepad to Alizée !
Cooney
12-17-2006, 03:13 AM
I just put in an order for the one on amazon.ca... will wait and see what it turns out to be. It won't ship until after X-mas, so it'll be a while, but whatever. If the picture is right, this is most certainly the Korean version - the Taiwanese version has Chinese writing in place of "Mes Courant Electriques" and should have been blatantly obvious to anybody entering it initially. Again assuming the cover pictures are correct, it's interesting to note they have the Japanese version as well.
rwd716
12-17-2006, 03:23 AM
I also love Alizee's accent in I'm Fed Up... its sublte but precious. The part that gets me every time is how she says "water" by actually pronouncing the "t" as /t/. Any native english speaker (that I've ever heard) converts this to a /d/ or what is called in phonetics a "flap" (similar in almsot any medial "t" like "bottle," "throttle," etc.). Anyway, all that phonetics speak asside, I just think it's cute as hell. She's trying so hard to get the pronunciation right, that she ends up over shooting.
I know, right? Soo cute!
Just doing some late night Alizee Video watching and something came across my mind.....:)
Late last year, 2005, i stumbled across Alizee while playing a PC game. People where mentioning her name, so i looked it up..and was hooked. Its too bad that i 'found' her during her hiatus. I would have loved to experience first hand the fever of Alizee during her popularity in Europe during early 2000 to 2004.
Did anyone here experience Alizee in Europe during that time? If so, what was it like???.
Whether watching her on TV? Buying her CDs in Europe? Going to her Live Concert throughout Europe? What was it like seeing her on TV performing J'en Ai Marre for the first after a long absence? Here in the US, when a performer is hot...movies, music, or TV...we tend to saturate the public with that person's persona...ie, britney spears. Did that happen in Europe?..mainly France?
bt_bird_90
12-17-2006, 04:59 AM
I wasn't part of that, but my expert powers of observation lead me to the assumption that it was the cat's pajamas.
newalizeefan
12-17-2006, 07:00 AM
man i started almost the same exact thread. then it went off topic and people started talking about international versions of alizee cds haha.
but no i wasnt fan back during her active career. although i wish i was but i might have lost interest somewhere around 2005/early 2006. im guessing it was a very exciting time when she came back in 2003 with JEM for all the oldschool fans.
JCC,
I think most people on this website have discovered Alizee during her hiatus. It's okay, I know what you mean. Let's face it, we are hooked to this amazing singer by first watching/listening to her on a small PC screen. :p
Watching Alizee in concert must have been totally unreal. I think if she were to have another concert nowadays, there would be a lot of people traveling across the globe to see her. :cool:
Seapaddler
12-17-2006, 09:18 AM
The En Concert DVD on a projection screen and home theater system is the friggin best.
Hiby you can get mouse pads at that Poster website, any poster image can be put on a mouse pad. Under each poster is a link for mousepad instead.
rwd716
12-17-2006, 06:58 PM
I think if she were to have another concert nowadays, there would be a lot of people traveling across the globe to see her. :cool:
QFT (and the rest of the ten letters)
newalizeefan
12-17-2006, 08:34 PM
her accent in Amélie kills me .. I love it.
I think the French versions are better songs, but I enjoy listening to the English versions a lot.
in te english version of amelie.. i used to think she used to say "love wimpy wimpy" hahahaha.
i was like what is alizee talking about lol
lobowolf14
12-17-2006, 11:34 PM
I want an Alizée mousepad :(
An Alizée mousepad... I'd be afraid to use it for fear of getting her dirty.
CFHollister
12-18-2006, 07:03 AM
An Alizée mousepad... I'd be afraid to use it for fear of getting her dirty.
A mouspad is a picture of Alizee, not Alizee herself; so I wouldn't worry to much about getting it dirty. You can always get another one. As much as we may want our pictures of Alizee to be as genuine as the real thing, I can assure they aren't... despite all the candles and chanting :( (just kidding ;) ).
I think an Alizee mousepad is a great idea; I want one too.
JCC,
I think most people on this website have discovered Alizee during her hiatus. It's okay, I know what you mean. Let's face it, we are hooked to this amazing singer by first watching/listening to her on a small PC screen. :p
Watching Alizee in concert must have been totally unreal. I think if she were to have another concert nowadays, there would be a lot of people traveling across the globe to see her. :cool:
Hmm..i guess my thread was merged into this one. I guess the majority of us caught Alizee during her hiatus. Now if this site were live DURING her run of popularity in Europe early 2001...the possibilities, eh?!
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