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Originally Posted by LE_LOUP_DES_STEPPES (Post 229471)

Agnosticism and atheism are two different beliefs. To say your both Agnostic and atheist contradicts the definition of the two titles. :)))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism
Research before you laugh :bye:

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Originally Posted by Future Raptor Ace (Post 229473)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism
Research before you laugh :bye:

I did its still not the same thing! :)):)):)):)):))) whoever modified that wiki page is a moron! the two titles can never be one. you should do some real research and you will see that it isn't.

http://www.howtodothings.com/religio...t-and-agnostic

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8230643AAOI8ML

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=5889

Yahoo answers is a joke, the people on there are freaking idiots.

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 229479)

Yahoo answers is a joke, the people on there are freaking idiots.

:))) majority always rules!!

IF YOU LISTEN TO FOOLS<br>THE MOB RULES !

:agree:
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Originally Posted by DrSmith (Post 229482)

IF YOU LISTEN TO FOOLS<br>THE MOB RULES !

:agree:
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Allow me to rephrase my comment THE MOB RULES!!!! :)))

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 229461)

Well I really wasn't trying to turn this into a religious debate. It is merely an observation.

Complete and utter bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Azhiri (Post 229462)

Whether someone is smart or not doesn't really have that much to do with it, though. This guy was very, very, very smart, no doubt about it. So are the people you listed as examples. Just because somebody is smart enough to know that doing certain things are wrong, doesn't mean they are going to care enough to refrain from doing them. When all is said and done, morality is subjective. You could even say it's just a mindset. There are certain things some could say they would never be capable of doing. The truth is that they are perfectly capable - they just have a sense of right and wrong that was taught to them from a very early age. What people like you and I have that Hitler, Manson, and Holmes DIDN'T, is a conscience, and the ability to empathize and have consideration for other people's feelings and well-being. Something went chemically wrong in their brains so that that guilt just doesn't register, and that is what we call a sociopath.

I don't think the guy is evil, or that Hitler or Manson were evil. To say that is to try and distance ourselves as much as possible from these people and just totally dismiss them as freaks of nature, when really what we should be doing is learning all we can from them and taking something away from each incident in terms of awareness and personal knowledge of mental illness.

I agree that we must learn how they think and what makes these people the way they are. But anyway you look at it, they are evil. There os no justification for killing, no mental illness that can't be traced back to evil.

Religion is necessary or at least some form of moral guidance for matters of the heart and emotions.

Don't have to believe in a religion, but having values and morals is important.

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Originally Posted by alizeefan (Post 229463)

the news we are fed is all bad,for every bad religion story there are 1000 good ones you never see...

How ironic, the same could be said about guns.

As they say in the industry, "if it bleeds, it leads."

Okay you guys, this thread was made to pay respect to the victims of the shooting and to discuss the shooting itself. I think that part has run its course and the religious discussion has gone far enough, we don't want to go there, so I'm just going to lock this thread before it takes an ugly turn. We can all decide for ourselves what we believe in, and nobody here necessarily has to know or share what that is.