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Scruffydog777 06-04-2012 08:52 PM

Well I think we could incorporate some type of system, the question is which. I think it might be a good idea to have something where you could give a thumbs up to a thread. I think the benefit of that would be in the way we store threads. When you looked let's say in the discussion forum, the first threads you should see should be and I'm just throwing out a figure here is threads that were posted on in the past cou;le of weeks. After that, maybe it would be good to post the threads that had the most thumbs up, making it easier to find popular threads.

As far as thumbs down or dislikes, you could vote thumbs down on a thread, but it would only keep tally of the votes made in the past couple of weeks. Because there are often threads that are good, that may go off topic into an area that is very controversial, seeing a lot of thumbsdown on a thread could give a heads up to a mod, that something is amiss. It could warn them to tell members to get back on subject, in which case a good thread will stay active and will eventually lose the no votes it didn't deserve.

Those no votes could also offer an early warning of threads that may need to be shut down.

Maybe what I propose is too complicated to be implemented, but I figured I'd suggest it.

I think I understand what Helix is talking about when he says about what the royalty likes and dislikes. Me and him have gotten into some major arguements in here. Arguements in which case I think we were both equally wrong not so much for what we were saying, but the way we said it and I think because of what I've done in here, he got looked upon as the evil doer, when as I said we were both equally wrong.

But I think we have a pretty good group of mods here with me being the weakest link. I'm trying hard but I keep making mistake after mistake. Just the other day, in the criticism thread, I questioned whether people wanted this to be a forum for discussion or a place where people come to kiss Alizee's behind and I shouldn't have worded it that way. Bigdan had a very good response to it. He could have gone off on me, but unlike me, he used tact.

As far as Helix, after we did battle, there were times I went off on him at the littlest thing. Totaly unfair. He's been a loyal member for I believe as long as I have. I'd like to see him post more often here. We will get into arguements again.................................let me rephrase that................we will get into discussions again in which we have far differing views, but I will try to do my best to keep it as a discussion.

ALS 06-04-2012 10:36 PM

Scruffydog we are like family here, we fight, we argue and we make up.

Just be glad this board isn't made up with a bunch of drama queens, then the mods would actually have to work. :)

BrianO1 06-04-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 226539)
Well I think we could incorporate some type of system, the question is which. I think it might be a good idea to have something where you could give a thumbs up to a thread. I think the benefit of that would be in the way we store threads. When you looked let's say in the discussion forum, the first threads you should see should be and I'm just throwing out a figure here is threads that were posted on in the past cou;le of weeks. After that, maybe it would be good to post the threads that had the most thumbs up, making it easier to find popular threads.

The problem with that is, if a thread is still popular, it will still be near the top of the page. Or at least on the first page. We don't want to store them based on over all popularity. An example would be, say, LE 2008. That thread was popular at the time, but obviously now, does not need to be held at the forefront.

If a thread is popular, then it will remain active, thus, will remian at a high point on the page, automatically.

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As far as thumbs down or dislikes, you could vote thumbs down on a thread, but it would only keep tally of the votes made in the past couple of weeks. Because there are often threads that are good, that may go off topic into an area that is very controversial, seeing a lot of thumbsdown on a thread could give a heads up to a mod, that something is amiss. It could warn them to tell members to get back on subject, in which case a good thread will stay active and will eventually lose the no votes it didn't deserve.
I don't think that is needed either. If something horrible is said, members need to use the report button. As for off topic...it happenes, and if it gets too bad, one of the mods, who should already be watching, can clean it up. Plus if we give a thread "bad" marks for simply going off topic, members may skip over a perfectly good thread, thinking its full of badness, when in fact it just a little off topic chit chat.




Another problem with the idea of a rep system or what not, is new members. When I first joined these forums, I would feel a bit scared to disagree with a member who had 75975387596397592763 posts, to my 4. A reputation system could do the same thing. Members may not want to disagree with a member who has a "we all love this member" rep, if they themselves only have a "wait, when did this guy join?" rep. We want new members to feel like their views and opinions matter, and are vauable, regardless of post count and reputation status.


At the end of the day, we all know the members that make constant good posts, and we know the members who make the....not so good posts. (Looks at Azhiri) :p :p


While overall it's not a bad idea, and I'm sure it works great on other boards, I just don't think this forum needs something like that. :)

texasguy 06-04-2012 11:24 PM

*edit

Well Brian changed his post so what I said would no longer make sense.

User22 06-05-2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianO1 (Post 226543)
I would feel a bit scared to disagree with a member who had 75975387596397592763 posts, to my 4. A reputation system could do the same thing. Members may not want to disagree with a member who has a "we all love this member" rep

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HelixSix 06-05-2012 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 226539)
Arguements in which case I think we were both equally wrong not so much for what we were saying, but the way we said it and I think because of what I've done in here, he got looked upon as the evil doer, when as I said we were both equally wrong.

Too many times have people argued over the same points going in circles only to get the thread closed when the same debate will come back since it was never resolved in the first place. That's when I try to find out the motivation for why people have their views so maybe something can actually be resolved. It usually doesn't go well though.

If some guy with 3 posts wants to single me out he should be able to. I'm sure every person here could have been put in their place by unregistered viewers who chose not to get involved. It's lower class civility but it gets closer to the truth and is better than telling somebody to F off. All I've ever wanted was for the things I say to be understood even if people hate me for it.

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we will get into discussions again in which we have far differing views, but I will try to do my best to keep it as a discussion.
Going forward there might be less to disagree about.

It's always come down to her character and situational judgement for me rather than her career. Since the last album the values I respected are disappearing. But that's for another thread.

Azhiri 06-05-2012 03:53 AM

As far as incorporating a rating system for threads or posts, I think that's a feature that would be far better-suited to a much larger forum. On AAm, we have a relatively small pool of regular posters. The practical purpose of such a rating system would be to decide at a quick glance whether a topic is interesting or "good" enough to bother going into.. do we have that many topics being generated each day that we would really need to do that? It's a nice idea, but as well as the negative connotations that ALS and Helix mentioned, it's just not really something we need at the moment.

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Originally Posted by HelixSix (Post 226547)
Too many times have people argued over the same points going in circles only to get the thread closed when the same debate will come back since it was never resolved in the first place. That's when I try to find out the motivation for why people have their views so maybe something can actually be resolved. It usually doesn't go well though.

This is true, and it doesn't make much sense to me. Most if not all discussions to be had around here involve people debating about their opinions. It's silly because there's nothing to be debated about an opinion, it's just an opinion. We've seen members go back and forth here about the most subjective of ideas. There is no resolution to such arguments, people will think what they want to think. There's nothing wrong with wanting to find out more about why a member might think the way they do, but it becomes a problem when insults start flying around. There's an important life skill to be practiced in that situation, and that is the skill to respectfully disagree.

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If some guy with 3 posts wants to single me out he should be able to. I'm sure every person here could have been put in their place by unregistered viewers who chose not to get involved. It's lower class civility but it gets closer to the truth and is better than telling somebody to F off. All I've ever wanted was for the things I say to be understood even if people hate me for it.
Absolutely. As a mod I want every member to feel like they can speak his or her mind on this forum without being attacked or victimized by some kind of clique. This is why threads get locked, members get temp bans, etc.

ALS 06-05-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Azhiri (Post 226548)
Absolutely. As a mod I want every member to feel like they can speak his or her mind on this forum without being attacked or victimized by some kind of clique. This is why threads get locked, members get temp bans, etc.

I also agree with
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I would feel a bit scared to disagree with a member who had 75975387596397592763 posts, to my 4. A reputation system could do the same thing. Members may not want to disagree with a member who has a "we all love this member" rep
That also is a problem with some boards where people want to be the Grand Poo Bah's who post endlessly to get their post counts up. Then they act like they are all knowing on what ever subject the board may have been started for. Nothing worse than arguing or trying to have a discussion on a particular point and having to deal with one of these light on knowledge of the subject, heavy on the ego, idiots. Once they get a foot hold, start watching the number of posting members drop fast.

I've been here since 2007 and tank God we have never had a group of these people gang up on the other members on this this board. Even on the other Alizée boards that I pop onto once and a while, everyone seems to play well together. Which tells you a lot about the kind of people who are fans of Alizée. :D

Personally I feel things are working fine now the way the board is set up.
Maybe clean up the forums by putting in a sub forum archive (Sticky) inside each group that threads that have not been responded to for say a year or more, are sent to this folder. That way if someone wants to look back two, three or more years the threads they're all in one place. We'll no longer have a forum like Alizée Discussion with 91 pages of threads going back to 6/22/2006 we would have only 11 active pages. If someone finds an archived thread that they want to respond to in this archived sub-forum it would go back into active status, until another year passed with out any activity.

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I just want to add this for your entertainment. One of my buddies on another board came up with this, this afternoon.

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If I was the internet czar - URL's would have to accurately reflect what the forum is really about.
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That way, people don't go to a forum they don't belong to by mistake.
I have a better idea. Instead of .com, .gov, .org, .edu, .co, .tv, and so on, add some new ones for forums and blogs that allow people with serious issues to go and post in order to use their keyboard to work out their own unique vision of Primal Scream Therapy:

.rant - Sites featuring endless bitching about products or services and no usable content.

.troll - Sites offering trolls a safe haven to post their flame bait, much like placing all the violent criminals in the world on a deserted island so they can all fight it out. On the .troll sites, be sure to post in the "Welcome to our Site" thread so you can get your first slap-down within minutes of joining.

.ego - A haven for the sanctimonious, the egotistical, and the narrow minded. Every member should have the self-proclaimed expertise of a certain Almighty Engineer that some may know from a hybrid-car-focused forum. The rules: Every thread must erupt into name calling by the third post, or the thread is deleted. Every post must consist of at least ten paragraphs of obscure data and theorems punctuated by graphs. Posts without irrelevant graphs are deleted, as are posts that don't repeat the same questionable content several times, as though the user were practicing copying and pasting text.

.godwin - A place to post when you feel that Hitler is the cause and/or solution of any conflict or challenge the world has ever known. Members' profiles get little gold stars in their signature tag each time another site member compares their opinions or views to those of Hitler.

.spam - The place to go to advertise the fact that you have unlocked cell phones or low-cost Viagra (which is actually the blue diamond marshmallows out of a box of Lucky Charms) or adult DVDs or $99 week-long cruises to a tropical destination. Links pointing to .cn or .ru domains are stickied so users can find them faster, click on them, and key in their credit card and social security numbers.

User22 06-28-2012 10:59 PM

ALS, I just had to share your edit on fbook...it cracked me up! Haha

Rev 07-04-2012 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by para.izée (Post 228029)
What's that I faintly hear in the distance? ...Could it possibly be AAm's homepage clamoring for SOME piece of this Action?

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<BLINK>** aam's homepage :need: **</BLINK>


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GREAT idea. Time to change the home page. :)

Rev 07-09-2012 01:21 AM

Nice change. Thanks. :)

Karin 07-09-2012 08:44 AM

I would change the b. color of image, cause red/black site color and grey pic color doesnt fir together :p

Rev 07-10-2012 12:01 AM

I like it as it is. It is striking. And the gray matches her dress well.

Also, the top image seems to have depth. :)

Taxi Driver Aaron 07-31-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ALS (Post 226542)
Scruffydog we are like family here, we fight, we argue and we make up.

Just be glad this board isn't made up with a bunch of drama queens, then the mods would actually have to work. :)

I'm happy that there is a lot of mods... personally, I think the more mods the better because not all the mods can be everywhere at all times.

On the other hand, it's not like we've got a thousand active members posting on a daily basis... so the site is easy to maintain.

I still think that the forum colors and the home page layout could use some changes though!... it's time for an upgrade and a new layout!

I also think the reputation bar needs to be spruced up as well. It is hard to notice it the way it is right now. I think instead of a green square it should be little Lili nose scrunch faces... lol ... and it should be easier to give and take away from peoples reputation. It should also be easy to see what a persons reputation is... right now it isn't ... everyone has a green square no matter how many reputation points they get or lose. There is no visual count... there should be a number associated with the meter.

ALS 03-29-2013 02:46 PM

I have a suggestion under the Edit button. I ran across this the other day when I made a post not knowing the video was up somewhere else. I would have liked to have had the ability to delete my post including removing the post all together but the software options to the members is limited. Any chance we could have the ability to edit our posts including physically deleting and removing the post from the thread. A couple of boards I'm on offer that option to the posters. Thanks

Al

DrSmith 03-29-2013 05:21 PM

I'm pretty sure we used to be able to delete our posts. I wouldn't mind having that back either.

Merci Alizée 03-30-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ALS (Post 239563)
I have a suggestion under the Edit button. I ran across this the other day when I made a post not knowing the video was up somewhere else. I would have liked to have had the ability to delete my post including removing the post all together but the software options to the members is limited. Any chance we could have the ability to edit our posts including physically deleting and removing the post from the thread. A couple of boards I'm on offer that option to the posters. Thanks

Al

Not sure what the current permissions are for regular users.

I guess for editing there is a time limit and after that you won't be able to edit or delete the post.

ALS 03-30-2013 10:48 AM

Merci, it was with in five minutes of the original post so the time limit we have now wasn't the issue.

lapinschous 03-30-2013 10:51 AM

Why on earth did someone retweeted Booba's fake account's message on Alizée America's twitter??

Ray4AJ 12-08-2013 01:12 AM

Is it possible to have an option for notification sounds when a new message is posted to the chatbox? Or, if that already exists, I can't find it.

Fall 12-09-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray4AJ (Post 247333)
Is it possible to have an option for notification sounds when a new message is posted to the chatbox? Or, if that already exists, I can't find it.

I agree, that would be nice. When you're on a different tab and somebody sends a message, you never see it till you come back :/

Merci Alizée 12-10-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fall06 (Post 247348)
I agree, that would be nice. When you're on a different tab and somebody sends a message, you never see it till you come back :/

Unfortunately there is no such option with this chatbox. We used to have sound notification with flashchat, but not with this one.

Ray4AJ 12-10-2013 10:15 AM

OK, thanks MA!

Fall 12-10-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Merci Alizée (Post 247351)
Unfortunately there is no such option with this chatbox. We used to have sound notification with flashchat, but not with this one.

Aw, alright. I still remember the sounds for that one, I hoped that we might be able to use those hehe :o
Thanks MA!

outlaw 12-12-2013 08:10 PM

hello my friends. long time no see. I noticed once someone wanted to change the alizee logo or pic of her on the site. may I suggested a 3d image of her and a new logo? blend in with the times?

Scruffydog777 02-15-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 247379)
hello my friends. long time no see. I noticed once someone wanted to change the alizee logo or pic of her on the site. may I suggested a 3d image of her and a new logo? blend in with the times?

Did you have anything specific in mind?

On another front, I wish with this and in other forums when you go to the forum page with the chat box, I wish they had the time that is being used displayed at the top of the page where the chat box is, rather than at the bottom.

Fall 02-15-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 248118)
On another front, I wish with this and in other forums when you go to the forum page with the chat box, I wish they had the time that is being used displayed at the top of the page where the chat box is, rather than at the bottom.

I think the time at the bottom is supposed to be your computer's local time zone anyway, but it would be handy to have that at the top :D

Ray4AJ 02-15-2014 11:03 PM

Yes, the times I see for the chatbox posts correspond to my local time. But I know that if I read threads when I'm not signed in, then the times shown are in forum time, and for AF that's 7 or 8 hours off. But as long as I'm signed in everything is in my time.

Scruffydog777 02-15-2014 11:39 PM

I guess that's where I've run into problems, when I'm not signed in and when I'm travelling. When I'm in France or what ever, if I get the way this is set up right, if I'm signed in, it will show the chat times in EST time, so then I have to take my shoes off to calculate the difference if I changed the time zone on my Kindle which I usually do.

I don't know if this would be hard to do, but it seems to me that we could have a system that if you're not signed in, would say chat times displayed are GMT along with the actual GMT right near the chat box, where you don't have to scroll down and if you're signed in, it would show a message saying chat times are in local time, along with the local time.

It would make life so much easier for simple minded people like me.

Ray4AJ 02-16-2014 10:21 AM

Visiting the forum without signing in is like walking past a restaurant and just looking at the food instead of going in to enjoy! :)

If you go in the forum User Control Panel, and go down to Options, near the bottom you can set your local time zone to whatever you choose. That's how the forum knows what time to show you. Only takes a few seconds. I think the forum time is set to where the servers are. I think.

Scruffydog777 02-16-2014 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray4AJ (Post 248128)
Visiting the forum without signing in is like walking past a restaurant and just looking at the food instead of going in to enjoy! :)

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What kind of restaurant are we talking about; Italian, TGIF, Japanese steak house, Chinese, Chuck E Cheese? I really miss Church's chicken from when I was in the military down in Texas. I also miss Krystals I believe it was with those little square hamburgers. I could eat a hundred of those things. They said they were full of fillers, but they were so good!

Rev 02-17-2014 12:49 AM

:confused: :dontknow:

:secret:

:cool:

:)

comjoz 02-17-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 248122)
I don't know if this would be hard to do, but it seems to me that we could have a system that if you're not signed in, would say chat times displayed are GMT along with the actual GMT right near the chat box, where you don't have to scroll down and if you're signed in, it would show a message saying chat times are in local time, along with the local time.

How do you see the chatbox if you're not logged in?

Scruffydog777 02-17-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by comjoz (Post 248161)
How do you see the chatbox if you're not logged in?

Good point! Someone mentioned earlier that the chatbox displays local time when you are signed in, so I assumed it showed GMT time if you weren't. I guess I don't know the workings of this forum well enough to know it doesn't show chat unless you are signed in. Still I'd like to see a time window, by the chat box, that the system is using for chat, that way if I'm in a different time zone and I haven't reset my kindle, I will quickly know how recent the posts are.

comjoz 02-19-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 248162)
Good point! Someone mentioned earlier that the chatbox displays local time when you are signed in, so I assumed it showed GMT time if you weren't. I guess I don't know the workings of this forum well enough to know it doesn't show chat unless you are signed in. Still I'd like to see a time window, by the chat box, that the system is using for chat, that way if I'm in a different time zone and I haven't reset my kindle, I will quickly know how recent the posts are.

It seems that you have two options. One is to reset your kindle and reset Time Zone at User CP here at AAm. Another option is to send a chatbox message and see what time shows up. For example send a message of any content just to see what is the current time:

[02-19, 18:19] Scruffydog777 some message

See it is 18:19 right now in the chatbox.


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