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penguinluvr91 11-30-2007 10:34 AM

why??????
 
why is it that the U.S exports almost all entertainment such as artists and movies and shows to other countries buy they hardly do that in return. we almost never or never hear about artists or movies or shows from other places that weren't the United States.

i mean the only other places i hear artists, shows, movies from is from Latin America. i mean its obvious why we hear so much from Latin America but that doesnt mean we should limit ourselves to that.

are artists from other countries scared that they wont do well in America or do their record labels not let them go beyond where ever they're from.

well i dont know but those artist from other countries should come to the U.S....

French Fan 11-30-2007 11:59 AM

The main problem in my opinion is that artists are afraid with the US market because most of people think english language is required for success in the US...

SilentFox 11-30-2007 12:07 PM

That was what i was thinking about to there FF

cocoroa 11-30-2007 12:19 PM

you should be happy those who live in the us or in europe

i live in chile and here you don´t see too many concerts and things like that

you should be proud of having that number of artists who give concerts almost all the time.

Nobody cares about small countries.

blueskyy 11-30-2007 12:29 PM

Maybe because some Americans think that the US is the best country in the world and that we already have the best stuff, so they have no interest in listening to foreign music/art. Plus the fact that most of them don't know anything or have any experience to foreign music/art.

Just think of the rednecks that you may try to introduce to Alizee: "I aint listn'n to no French crap! They didn't support us in the war, etc etc.

OGRE 11-30-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinluvr91 (Post 79254)
why is it that the U.S exports almost all entertainment such as artists and movies and shows to other countries buy they hardly do that in return. we almost never or never hear about artists or movies or shows from other places that weren't the United States.

Supply and Demand.

America generates a lot of domestic entertainment. Our internal supply is very high. Couple that to the fact English is the primary language of commerce (requiring most Americans to only need to learn English) and they will gravitate to English enterntainment provided by an oversaturated internal demand. There is little demand for foreign entertainment because, in a nutshell, most of what we desire (or wish to desire) is produced domestically.

Many countries outside the U.S. don't generate as much entertainment domestically (although several external markets are expanding very nicely), and the U.S. is more than ready to provide supply. Couple that to the fact many foreigners know English as a second language, and are willing (and accustomed) to accepting foriegn entertainment products.

espire 11-30-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by French Fan (Post 79256)
The main problem in my opinion is that artists are afraid with the US market because most of people think english language is required for success in the US...

The English language is required for success in the US, partly because people will usually prefer to listen in a language that they understand, but also recursively; success is defined by sales,so there isn't as much publicity as there usually is in the native country. Publicity causes a lot of sales, so until music companies start taking risks, we'll be stuck in that loop.

theit77 11-30-2007 03:40 PM

Very well said, Orge; I think the language barrier is a major part of the problem, but your supply-demand relationship probably explains it best

lefty12357 11-30-2007 05:40 PM

Ogre makes a good point. The US can produce more than enough entertainment for its own needs.

But I would argue that Americans still need to expose themselves to what the rest of the world has to offer. We need to be open to new sounds and new ideas. We may be smart in some things, but we are quite ignorant in others. We have cut ourselves off from the rest of the world for too long and are missing out on too much.

I also think French Fan makes a good point. Until the US sends a signal to the rest of the world that we are willing to listen, people like Alizée may just decide not to bother coming here. It will be our loss.

DirtyACE 11-30-2007 05:48 PM

Even with the supply of entertainment US provides, I think we'll see a growth in exposure of foreign artists gradually, thanks to the internet mainly. Youtube anyone.

lefty12357 11-30-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyACE (Post 79307)
Even with the supply of entertainment US provides, I think we'll see a growth in exposure of foreign artists gradually, thanks to the internet mainly. Youtube anyone.


Yeah, I think the internet is making a difference, and I hope it continues to grow.

penguinluvr91 11-30-2007 07:04 PM

it kinda makes me mad that they let people like kevin federline make "music" (if u could call it that) but they wont let people with real talent (even if theyre not from America) have a chance to succeed here

sure kevin did awful as a rapper but just because he was once married to britney doesnt mean that he should have an automatic ticket into the music industry

thats why im saying that americans should let music from other places into their music selections

Deepwaters 11-30-2007 07:56 PM

I don't know, the language thing is probably part of it, especially when it comes to music. But movies get dubbed/subtitled all the time. Recently when the only source I had to watch the MJ videoclip was one with commercials preceding it, I saw a Hollywood movie with French dubbing advertised. You see foreign movies with subtitles or dubbing in English here, too, although they're never promoted as heavily as movies that are made in English to start with.

OGRE 11-30-2007 08:42 PM

I have noticed a lot more foreign films making it to the American market over the past few years. I believe part of the reason is the technology to create really good films is growing, enabling the smaller up start overseas studios to make first class films. Second, I believe most of the American movie scene has been monopolized by writers, directors, and actors more bent on pushing their political agenda in movies than in generating all around good stories. And third, the distribution technology (e.g., netflic) is making it easier to review and get access to foreign films.

I have probably seen more foreign films in the past year or two than I've seen in my entire previous years combined.

Again, supply and demand. But keep in mind that supply is not just numbers and demand can be picky. Hollywood produces a lot of supply, but a good bit is just plain crappy these days. So the excess domestic demand begins to look for overseas suppliers. Hence, a small but significant influx of foreign films in American households. And if Hollywood doesn't wake up, and stop becoming political hacks, Americans just might discover foreigners can produce some really good stuff.

Rocket 11-30-2007 09:04 PM

Gérard Depardieu as Cyrano De Bergerac is one of his greatest roles. He did a magnificent job. And it came with english sub-titles.

WindReaver 12-02-2007 04:20 PM

No foreign song will make it here unless it is played on the radio... repeatedly.

I think that if they were to put a song of hers into one of those accursed "song rotation loops" that gets played over and over and over again it would generate a huge amount of sales for her. I could see some of her songs doing very well here. Moi... Lolita, Par Les Paupieres, Coeur déjà pris, Amelie, À Contre-courant, probably a few more.

The music industry doesn't give enough credit to the American listeners. Look at the playlist of anyone on the 'net and you will almost always find foreign music in there. We just don't have access to it though the normal music listening channels.

ajaccio corsica 12-02-2007 05:31 PM

hi
actually it's pretty easy to find foreign cutural products if you live on the east coast, california or florida
it's true that it's more difficult to find french cd's or dvd's in hicksville ohio or little rock arkansas
cheers

WindReaver 12-02-2007 05:40 PM

Sure you can find them here, but you really have to go looking for it. For brick & mortar shopping most people buy their music from Wal-mart these days and not specialty music stores. The real trick is to get them hear it first so they will go looking for it.

Matrix 12-02-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blueskyy (Post 79260)
Just think of the rednecks that you may try to introduce to Alizee: "I aint listn'n to no French crap! They didn't support us in the war, etc etc.

you know I think you would find alot of french "rednecks" in the southern Louisiana bayous. But once they see a pic of Alizee, they would be like..."oh, so that's Alizee" tell me more, please


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