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leto681 09-07-2016 08:30 AM

Christine Clip from Alizée visit to London
 
Hello

Chris Marques just showed a trailer on his Youtube channel of an upcoming Dance Clip with Alizée and Gregoire. Seems to be from their visit to London some months back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsAiqe9ZHGE

Clip should be released in 7 days, and seems to be from the Dance to Christine and the Queens.

Scruffydog777 09-07-2016 10:03 AM

Great news.....can't wait!
Thanks for posting.

Now is this is something different as opposed to the other show where her name was mentioned recently that is about 3 roommates? By the way, is the J-7 a channel like M1. I believe in another picture she was in recently for the show I mentioned, she was holding a sign that said J-5????

Here it is....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHwuyVWcAA9jXN.jpg

leto681 09-07-2016 10:40 AM

Hello Scruffy

This is something different.

En Coloc is a webseries, also published in Youtube. I did not have the time yet to watch the 1st eposide, to see if Alizée is appearing there.

The one where this short trailer is from, is from the Youtube Channel of Chris Marques (I assume you all already know who he is:) ), who is Judge in the DALS show in France. He is also producing the DALS Tournée and good friends with the A & G.

Ray4AJ 09-07-2016 12:30 PM

Thanks leto681!

J-5 is a countdown of days (jours) like rocket launches do the T-5..4..3..2..1.

Alizée I believe was only doing a promo for the En Coloc series. I watched (forced myself) the first short episode Saturday evening... No Alizée. I don't expect she is going to appear in it at all. I almost hope she doesn't .

There were some photos posted a while back of the London thing, I remember Grégoire had on dancing shoes in one of them. I'll try to locate them later but they are in a photo thread here somewhere.

EDIT - pictures A&G posted in back in March.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDlu3vUsbbf/
https://instagram.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn....84838545_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDlu3M1NoSa/
https://instagram.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn....41946076_n.jpg

Scruffydog777 09-08-2016 05:36 AM

There was J-5 and then J-7. I guess both countdowns for different events. I don't ever remember seeing something like this before with Alizee anyways. Could this be a spin off of the song Jour 1 by Louane?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uEHmaG3AM

Ray4AJ 09-08-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 256844)
There was J-5 and then J-7. I guess both countdowns for different events. I don't ever remember seeing something like this before with Alizee anyways. Could this be a spin off of the song Jour 1 by Louane?

I've seen "J-..." posts often from French fans for all kinds of things on social media over the last several years. It can be a countdown for an album release, for a return to school, for the start of vacation, to announce just about any kind of upcoming event.

I don't know if it's something unique to texting and social media, or if it's used more widely in everyday conversation. I don't expect I'll ever know.

Ray4AJ 09-14-2016 11:25 AM

et voilà
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaUzOE4L44Q

Scruffydog777 09-14-2016 02:50 PM

Thanks for posting Ray. Great video! I'm trying to find the lyrics.

In our recent talk about her leaving Sony, there's probably no better case to show it's a good move for her because we see here there is so much potential for her and or him to make some good videos together, with their dancing abilities, her voice and her beauty.

They should've made a video with Alcaline which was a simple story and would've been so easy to produce, but I'm sure if they had made one, it would've been just as lame as Blonde. So I'm convinced this break with Sony is the best thing that could happen to her if her singing career is to continue and have a chance at success.

EDIT: I like Sony. They've treated me and us well. Iris Merlet was incredibly nice to me and it hurts me to say that I think this break up with Sony is a good thing but I have to look at the fruits of their efforts and honestly think that it could've been so much better.

Bigdan 09-14-2016 04:59 PM

My god. She is so beautifull.:bow:

Ray4AJ 09-14-2016 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 256879)
Great video! I'm trying to find the lyrics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...he_Queens_song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NoLHyKxHLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBzsjga73s

A&G performed this dance during the DALS tour earlier this year.

Un-rêve 09-15-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray4AJ (Post 256878)

Thanks for posting Ray! There's something nostalgic about this clip but I can't quite put my finger on it, I wonder where in London it was shot?

Ray4AJ 09-15-2016 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Un-rêve (Post 256893)
Thanks for posting Ray! There's something nostalgic about this clip but I can't quite put my finger on it, I wonder where in London it was shot?

MC Motors, a 6,000 sq/ft East London warehouse available for filming, photo shoots and events.
28 Millers Avenue, Dalston, E8 2DS

http://www.castlegibson.com/locations/mc-motors/

http://www.castlegibson.com/wp-conte...edinitials.jpg

Ray4AJ 09-17-2016 07:27 PM

I don't know why I get so pessimistic sometimes, but maybe someone can help me see how this clip will benefit Alizée in the big picture. It's a nice video, and she's proud of it and we love to see it. I can't stop thinking it's all just a ploy by Chris Marques to cash in on his YouTube channel with advertising revenue. Sure, he is the content creator so he deserves anything he gets from it. Is this what entertainment has come to? Post something on YouTube, get fans to advertise it for free, and collect the check?

Sorry to be so negative. This (putting the fans to work) just bothers me for some reason. What am I missing this time?

Scruffydog777 09-18-2016 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray4AJ (Post 256910)
I don't know why I get so pessimistic sometimes, but maybe someone can help me see how this clip will benefit Alizée in the big picture. It's a nice video, and she's proud of it and we love to see it. I can't stop thinking it's all just a ploy by Chris Marques to cash in on his YouTube channel with advertising revenue. Sure, he is the content creator so he deserves anything he gets from it. Is this what entertainment has come to? Post something on YouTube, get fans to advertise it for free, and collect the check?

Sorry to be so negative. This (putting the fans to work) just bothers me for some reason. What am I missing this time?

Well I guess we have to face reality here. I'm sure she'd be quite happy if the opportunity for another album never arises. Financially she's probably all set with the money she's made from DALS and all the different tv shows in the past few years. I think they still have plans to start a dance school in Ajaccio which will probably be enough to meet her needs, especially now that there is another bread winner in the family. I think she also got a very bad taste in her mouth as far as putting out another album with all the failures she's had.

But as I said the other day, there is still a lot of potential there and with this video doing well, I think it will show other labels that there is a good amount of interest in her and them, but dancing itself wont be enough to fill the bill. If someone approaches her, they will want her to sing. I think she will be approached now that apparently she is no longer with Sony. Who knows if she will accept. But if something like that is to happen, it will probably have to at least get it's start within the next 6 months.

Again, there's only so much they can do with dancing. Even with another DALS tournee appearance for both of them if by chance that happens, I think interest will wane, so it has to happen soon. If a video like this does well, it could provide just the stimulus another label might need to approach her. So for the time being, even though I often get discouraged myself, I'm going to do all I can to promote her.

Shepherd 09-20-2016 06:56 PM

I'm not clear as to how she could make any money off this dance video or how it will advance her career. There must be a way. They have invested, time, energy, and some money into this project. They would obviously have knowledge of the entertainment business that I'm not blessed with. It does give them some exposure on the Internet.

168,839 views after only 6 days online, that's not bad.

Scruffydog777 09-20-2016 09:37 PM

Well I was kind of hoping that now that she's apparently no longer under contract with Sony, she was hoping this video would do well so other record labels would be more interested in approaching her. But I think it's more likely that she wants it to do well so it be more likely TF1 would bring her back for another Tournée.

Rev 09-21-2016 12:35 AM

I have to say that I think Chris made a poor choice of the venue. It doesn't fit her. An old, run-down building simply doesn't match everything about the music and the dancing. :(

Scruffydog777 09-21-2016 01:34 AM

Well it wasn't really a great choice of venues; but it wasn't a poor choice. At one point, I think it took kind of a sexual and in that case interesting turn. But that's something that's been so lacking in the Sony era and a big reason for her many flops. She is stuck in a world devoid of reality. Thinking that a Disney world will attract fans and having no clue as to why her early career under MF was such a success and the many years that followed had zero interest to the public.

The main bad choice that was made here was it was a type of dance that was all too familiar with us from the Tournée. I'm surprised it's done as well as it has. I think that's and attestment to how much appeal they have. If they had come up with something original, they probably could've come up with at least triple the views they've had so far..

Ray4AJ 09-21-2016 06:27 AM

These days it takes a lot to make money in the music business, and with Alizée's traditionally thrifty fanbase, that just isn't a smart direction for her to go. Getting views on YouTube isn't going to sell albums for her. YouTube is probably why her album sales fell off so much. No reason to buy when it's all right there.

The dancing tour is the big money-maker. I doubt she can get in again because the fans of the tour will expect to see the more recent participants when they pay to attend.

Still, I can't see the strategy behind Chris Marques (who I think pretty much runs the French DALS franchise) creating this clip and choosing now to release it. I'm wondering if A&G were paid to make this, or were required to under contract. I'm curious to see what it's leading to, if anything, or if it's just a way for Marques to mine some cash from YouTube ad revenue.

Alizée hasn't been very active on social media for some time, and her current surge to support the YouTube clip seems compulsory to me. I think it could prove beneficial to her to maintain an active presence with the fans, but she does things her own way so I'll just stick around and see what comes next.

Shepherd 09-21-2016 09:25 AM

Alizee's record sales have been declining since her second album, and the last one was a disaster. Her singing career has been a loser for Alizee personally, entailing hard work and considerable stress which hasn’t paid off. On the other hand, dancing with Gregorie has been a magical experience. She won the DALS competition and fell in love with a guy who has bolstered her confidence and self-worth. She loves dancing and has obviously been having fun. I think she is now trying to preserve that experience indefinitely by replaying the record. The problem is that she can’t replay it for long. Dancing is professionally a dead end. When a dancer enters his thirties, he’s facing the door. Really good dancers are a dime a dozen, and the best are teenagers. With time, the excitement of romance fades, and the repetition of the routine grows tedious. Alizee and Gregorie could comfortably support themselves giving dance lesson for the rest of their lives, but would so mundane a life be satisfying for someone who has flown with the eagles?

And where does all this leave her fans? Her disappearance from the scene is like a death in the family.

If she were to decide to cut another album, I’m sure she could find a small label that would be delighted to have her. The toughest problem appears to be a lack of artistic direction. Urban music won’t work for her, nor—I think—hold any appeal for Alizee or her fans. She could do quite well with music similar to the song she sang in the talent contest when she was fifteen or music like Lilly Wood And the Prick’s – Where I Want To Be. If that would be a direction she’d be willing to go, the next truly difficult task is finding a dozen good tunes. If she decided to record a Spanish album, it might be easier to find tunes and financially that album would do quite well.

She doesn’t have to cut a whole album. If she could find one excellent tune and make a decent video, that could restart her career. It would get her TV appearances and attract investment. And we’d be off to the races.

Ray4AJ 09-21-2016 12:16 PM

"Making of the Christine clip"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxhEdxtetdQ

Un-rêve 09-21-2016 03:35 PM

^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcqNRaQRUog

Thanks for posting Ray, I was gonna post it, but you beat me to it by about an hour and it seems it was only up for an hour at the time. :blink:

Ray4AJ 09-21-2016 06:27 PM

Now we need to figure out what they said. :/)

Scruffydog777 09-22-2016 02:18 AM

Well if a translation doesn't pop up in the next couple of days, I can have Marguerite translate it...

So what does everyone think the main purpose of these videos was? The expense of going to England and renting this facility and paying for the services of other people involved probably wasn't cheap. I'd have to think the main reason with it's coming out this month and the DALS season starting this month is a way of starting to get people interested in the show again, but it seems like TF1 had nothing to do with the production of this video, or did they?

leto681 09-23-2016 07:51 AM

Hello

I tried to translate it. Some things I did not understand acoustically, this I marked.

ALIZÉE: We are in London

GREGOIRE: We are London to finally film this video with Chris.

ALIZÉE: With Chris, yes, a video of our Dance about Christine.

GREGOIRE: Yes a video about our dance from DALS tourney from Christine and the Queens, with which we had fun. Which we danced during the DALS Tournée 28 times.

ALIZÉE: On the tournée this year

GREGOIRE: These 28 times we liked very much, we loved this choreography

ALIZÉE: Yes, we prepared this specially for this tournée. And yes, we are a little sad that this was over and we could not dance it anymore.

GREGOIRE: Yes and there was this perfect conclusion to have a super souvenir

ALIZÉE: A Souvenir and all that, because this is a rumba but a bit modernized because of the chorographical talent of Gregoire

ALIZÉE: No it is..

GREGOIRE: No it is really a remembrance (did not fully acoustically understand it) to the Choreography and dancing it 28 times

ALIZÉE: It has inspired us what it makes of Christine and what it makes choreographically (not sure if this is correct)

ALIZÉE: And above all to keep the Rumba side and with the style of Greg

GREGOIRE: We are lucky to have a location very extraordinary for the shooting, with a universe a little different,

ALIZÉE: Different furniture

GREGOIRE: .. different furniture and, I think, a light installation which is now being built, which will be really super

ALIZÉE: The décor, yes, which is really old

GREGOIRE: Antique

ALIZÉE: Voila, antique

ALIZÉE: And we are trying to evolve across the furniture to dance and (did not understand) although the floor does not seem to be very flat, it does have quite some holes in it, so this is a new challenge.

GREGOIRE: Yes, voila.

Scruffydog777 09-23-2016 08:46 AM

Thanks leto681!

Rev 09-25-2016 03:02 AM

Sounds like a way of reminding fans of DALS that Le Tournee will be coming again. :)

Also sounds like they did not like the venue.

Un-rêve 10-05-2016 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray4AJ (Post 256888)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBzsjga73s

A&G performed this dance during the DALS tour earlier this year.

I heard this English version of the song on the radio just the other day and thought I was dreaming.. I looked for the vid on youtube and was gonna post it here but it seems I don't need to.

TILTED THANKS! :)


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