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below this J'en Ai Marre video. Thirteen years ago this was released and yet Alizée is still grabbing new fans with it. :)

My favorite comment from two months ago. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6fuPQ-294

I totally forgot this video had that many views. I was in a mindset where me and a couple of others liked her, seeing this video again with all these comments makes me happy :)
To answer the question asked by the youtube comment: Im afraid of what i would do for just a chance for her to be my wife :))

The other day i tried finding her Moi Lolita performance in Taormina(My favourite performance) but could only find it by googling it. It wasnt on youtube!. Im probably gonna upload my whole collection of videos to a dedicated channel im gonna make as soon as my collection is done. Just for the chance that others may discover her. Maybe some day, the comments on my videos will look like the ones you posted :)
http://i.imgur.com/LrnEfnd.gif
Alizée - Moi Lolita - Festivalbar Taormina

I know her JAM performance at Festivalbar in Pistoia got taken down a while ago. It was one of my favorite ones to show people who hadn't seen her before. When I saw it was no longer available, I try uploading it to Youtube and it got nailed for copyright violations and I'm guessing that's what happened with this one in Taormina. It's on Rutube, but it's a poor resolution.

On one of my vacations, I went to Pistoia and Taormina for 2 reasons. Mainly because she performed there, but also because they were beautiful sites. The site in Taormina was a Greco-Roman theater originally built in 300 bc I think it was. In the back ground, you can see Mount Etna.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...psjvtkk2kd.jpg

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Just as they say a lot of Shakespear's works are timeless, I think the same is true of her performances. It's difficult to nail them to a specific time frame in my opinion, for someone who hadn't seen her before with her simple but stunning beauty and also the string music of LB and the unique dances of MF.

What? I thought live performances were free for anyone to upload as they wish!
From past experience, its enough to use some software like audacity to change pitch by 2% to not get your video removed, so I guess it wont be such a big problem anyways.

In Norway, atleast where i live, there are mostly very steep mountains. The gentle curve of the landscape with the white local buildings look beautiful! A vibrant yellow sunset probably looks amazing over there :)

I've posted many videos of these early performances and many took a copyright hit, but that was it. I was still allowed to post them, but in just about every case they were blocked in Germany and I believe it was always United that claimed the copyrights. But things have changed in recent years.

Certain performances aren't allowed such a JAM at Festivalbar in Pistoia and it looks like that might be the case of ML in Taormina and I think this was a Festivalbar event too which might have a lot to do with it.

Here's one of my videos that received a cr claim, but is still allowed, but was monetized and the claim against it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srlhKBUbQjM


http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...psizgh350l.jpg

Here's another one of mine, Alizee Moi lolita from teenager to young woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLnOD1cQoWM

Again it received a copyright flag for play match at 0:01 - 4:21, again by Hitpool but has been monetized by Hitpool. By the way, the name Hitpool is one, I've only seen in the past year, but I haven't really been checking on this, so I don't know when they came on to the scene.

I had another video that I made that was part of the Stars a Domicile 2003 show. It was a segment where she was kind of startled when another singer came out singing her ML song. This little clip did quite well. It became a featured YT video and had over 200,000 hits I believe it was. To look at it, you be surprised they'd worry about it, maybe I'll share it via google drive.

Now as I touched on earlier, it used to be, you could post any of these official videos from the early years 1999-2003, and you'd get a notice of a copyright hit, but it would still be allowed and they weren't monetized. So somebody must've bought the rights for different performances so they can make some money off of them.

Not too long ago, all the Stars a Domicile performances disappeared and now they are back up again I'm suspecting they've been monetized.

As far as disguising your videos, I guess that may be possible by changing the audio somewhat, then leaving Alizee's name and the name of the song out of the title or description and hope they avoid manual detection.

I attended 2 Les Enfoires performances in 2012 and 2013. Me and Jenny posted some videos we took on YT, but made the mistake of at least in my case, using Alizee's name in the title and I believe these were manually detected and taken down, but I know there were some German fans who were there and titled their videos "Germans on the Rhone #1,#2, etc and their videos did not get taken down.
So it seems to be a constantly changing ball game.

This video simply is the no.1 Lili trap, where many poor souls of men and boys get caught - and the worst cases end up on forums like this :D And it will last at least as long as video technology will remain similar.

:wub:

If you're wanting discuss that look she has that is a killer, this is the video. Baggy pants and a sweater but that face just grabs you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cf75x8j3Kc

As typical with her, it didn't have to be a sexy outfit. It was her natural beauty that shone through. Natural eyebrows; no warpaint on the finger nails; no eye shadow, no huge lashes. Just a huge amount of natural beauty and a unique beauty, that was a Corsican beauty.

Always loved how shy she becomes at the start of the video when people are whistling like crazy :)
http://i.imgur.com/OAkVMX5.gif

I liked this performance because the crowd was so into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJohde636Lc

I love the reaction of the audience. I also like that so many of her fans are women and children, which is typical of all her audiences, not just this one.

What would be Jérémy Chatelain's answer?

Before or after he pissed her off?

I've got a feeling that when she is nice, she is REALLY nice. But when yous piss her off, she will REALLY hurt you. So I guess before and after, the answers are easy. But what about now, long time after the split?

She refers to Jeremy as her daughters father, nothing else.

I'd guess she's probably cordial to him due to Annili.

I think it's this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGa3sU-Ax9A

A guy was ansking for "a higher resolution, or more clear recording of this performance". Does anyone have it? I wouldn't mind it either :D

I guess you haven't joined the DC++ hub where you can get just about every video that's out there. I'm not sure if the hub is going to be around much longer. Anyways if you don't want to join the hub, someone can get it to you through Google drive or some other way. I can't do it until I get back.

I was only able to find one version in my files. There is a download (226MB) link on my profile page in the visitor messages. http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/member.php?u=6065

So thats why i dident find it, theres no "taormina" in the title! Good find.
The best quality videos Alizée you will find is on the dc++ hub. Its really sad that theres no better quality video though.

Somewhere, a retired filmcrew member has the original rawdata of that recording on a forgotten harddrive hidden under some ski's in his basement among the rest of his works. And i really want to punch him in the face and steal that harddrive :)

Amen.:p It is exactly what I think.

So Alizée was two times at Festivalbar in Pistoia. First time it was in 2002 performing Moi Lolita:
http://vdb.alizee.cz/browse.php?nid=120
Youtube video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCMQtc6wfgw

... and second time she was at Festivalbar in Pistoia in 2003 performing J'en ai marre:
http://vdb.alizee.cz/browse.php?nid=93
By the way it's my favorite of all the JAM performances of her.

That location can be seen at https://www.google.hr/maps/@43.93368...8i4352!6m1!1e1

You were there. Did you show the videos of those performances that she performed there on your mobile phone to some of the passers-by there on that square in Pistoia? Maybe someone remembers her and those two performances she had there.

I didn't have a video capable phone at the time. I didn't ask people if they had seen her, but one thing I did do is take my mini lap top and sat down and watched her performances from Pistoia. That's the closest I could get to the real thing.

I stayed at a B & B right around the corner from this square that was run by a very good looking woman who had 2 or maybe 3 young daughters and a son and I thought about asking her about it, but then again I thought with her having such young daughters, maybe it wasn't a good idea to ask her if she remembered a beautiful young lady singing "Moi Lolita". I would've asked about that song because in my travels, I found few people remember J'en ai marre, but everyone remembers Moi Lolita.

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Great. Thanks Scruffy for sharing those pictures and stories from your travels. So you were there on that square in Pistoia in Dec 2009, right?

Yeah, I remember once you mentioned that you have asked some people on your travels, in France I think, when you have shown a video of Alizée performance to them and some of those people said they know about her. How many of those people were there whom you asked who remembered her? Were they only French? You've asked only about Moi Lolita and J'en ai marre, and mostly they remembered just Moi Lolita?

Yes in my early days of travel, I don't remember anyone who had actually been to one of her performances. I'd first ask if they've heard of "Alizee" and I seldom got a yes answer which could of been because of my accent, but it seemed once I mentioned "Moi Lolita", they knew instantly who I was talking about. Then they would say "Oh Alizee!" and it would sound exactly the way I was saying it, but I think part of that is maybe they probably aren't expecting a question like that about a young French singer who at that point was a few years past her big days of success.

After they realized who I was talking about, the ones that did remember her didn't remember other songs I mentioned such as J'en ai marre and L'Alizee which was a number one hit, which again could've been an accent thing. But like I said "Moi Lolita" were the magic words in getting them to remember who she was. It was instant recognition.

It seemed younger people around 20 or so were less likely to remember her, but people in their 30s were more apt such as when I was in the Hotel de Ville area of Paris where Alizee performed JPVA in the blue, I stopped to talk to two 30ish looking women who were taking a smoke break in front of the office they worked in. Then when I was in Lorient, I was there to see the U boat pens from ww2, I walked down to the harbor to an area where I thought they were and didn't see anything and I asked two 30ish young men who had just gotten on a sail boat where they were and they said on the opposite side of the harbor and they said they were headed over there and asked if I wanted to go along with them which was a "Hell yeah!" moment and I did and we had a long conversation which include Alizee who they remembered well and they seemed a little amused that I was such a big fan. I wound up getting a beautiful boat ride with great views of the pens though it was a rainy day.

I visited Pistoia for 2 reasons. Alizee performed there, plus looking at the video, you saw it looked like a beautiful and interesting place to visit.

The same is true of Taormina on Sicily. I thought of visiting it when I went to Italy for those 2 reasons, but when I saw how far south of Rome it was, plus the fact it was on an island and I said that's a little too far, but then I learned that site where she did perform was a Grecco-Roman theater first built in 300 BC and you could see Mt Etna in the background and then I just had to go.

I also visited the Triage Lavoire buillding where ACC was filmed. I'm a big ww2 buff and learned this building was built under the Marshall plan at the end of the war which added some interest for me, plus this wasn't far out of my way in my travels across Europe though I had to improvise to find a way to get into the building.

When I stayed in Le Mans a couple of years ago on the night Alizee won DALS, I had talked to a woman around 40 I say who remembered her, but didn't seem to have a good opinion of her and I had hoped to inquire why the next night, but the place was busy with guests and I never got that chance.

A few pictures below. One is how I got into the Triage Lavoire building. The picture of the pens at Lorient isn't that great because I was mainly shooting video which I could post if anyone wants.

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I think you took a video of your travels there playing Alizée in your car on a cd if I'm correct? Well it seems you have been all over the world and posted many things related to Alizée on your travels, so maybe I've got mixed up.

Nonetheless I've enjoyed reading your travels to Corsica and France etc, I'm sure you have more than ones I've come across here on the forum.

I had a similar experience the second time I was in Corsica.. one time I asked a couple in Porticcio for a phone as I was stranded there one day and they said something like Alizée to me as they opened a door for me where I went to the front desk. I thought I heard them wrong but I have heard her name other times whilst in Paris too, unrelated to Alizée herself, so I feel there might be another term in france/Corsica that sounds the same as Alizée? I just can't think of what though???

Well, Alizé means tradewind as you probably know. Maybe its a way to say its windy?

You know there was a song written 17 years before Alizée's birth about her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsY8l0Jg3lY

Apparently there is some word or more likely words that sound like Alizee. There's been numerous times over there mostly when watching tv where I thought her name was mentioned but the subject at hand had nothing to do with her or music.

Sheesh.. I can't believe I missed that!

You are so right though, it's seems that day I was stranded in Porticcio the boat didn't come in as the sea was rough. I'm thinking now when that couple opened the door for me at some leisure centre they must've been saying it was windy! I can't really remember if it was or not though as I just wanted to get back to Ajaccio.. well it all makes sense now.

Yeah maybe there are other words in france apart from Alizé - tradewind - windy that sound like Alizée too . Anyway thanks for clearing things up peeps, many times I thought I was just hearing what I wanted to hear but on the flipside hearing Alizée's name mentioned unrelevent to anything that was going on made me think I was going crazy. :fear:


BTW nice find ALS!

That's happened to me often when hearing French spoken. Next time I hear it I'll try to get a sample and maybe we can figure it out.

Why can't it be both the $50 mil lottery winnings AND Alizée. ;)

I should have realized this much sooner because I often listen to this song but the word Idealiser from the song by that name sounds a lot like her name. I wonder if similar words such as ideology which we might hear often on the news is pronounced in a similar way.

Idealiser....... I like that one...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djIAnChHYrc

I really enjoy Christophe Willem's interpretation of the song that he did on the show SAGA. He's got an incredible voice. Plus I enjoy watching the affect it had on Alizee. It wasn't until this show and the interpretation I did of this song that I realized why a lot of people thought this was a song directed at MF in a negative way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUBLxEQB41M

The most interesting to me was this one with Moi Lolita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJZ6LkTeJ8

I'm not sure is there a subtitles for this one available, but it would be interesting to know what Alizée was saying.

I had just about the whole show translated; at least everything that had to do with Alizee. I posted it in 3 parts on Youtube. At the time I made it private or was it unlisted in the hope it wouldn't get taken down for copyright violations. So far it hasn't so I will probably soon make them public, but here are the links to the 3 shows. The one where "Moi Lolita" was sung is in pt3.
Pt1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjujVh399Q
Pt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncJABBl-F3g
Pt3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzERQSwHszk

I also posted several of the songs seperately
Alizee singing Patrick Fiori's 'Sans bruit' (Quietly).
Alizee singing Chritophe Willem's 'Double Je'(Double me?)
Patrick Fiori singing Alizee's 'A Cause de l'Autome' (Because of the Fall)
Christophe Willem singing Alizee's Idealiser
Tina Arena singing Alizee's 'Seulement Pour Te Plaire' (Only to please you)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmnFGqmQ_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No0-QkRtG7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73HHtzy8qvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No0-QkRtG7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZDPYQmNWI

"Plus I enjoy watching the affect it had on Alizee." Yeah, this is especially interesting thing to observe. Just see how she is rubbing her palms at 0:06 at the beginning of the song. It's like she is expecting to hear something especially delicious, how her own song sounds sang by other singer. :D
Then see expression on her face at 2:02, it's like she's totally stunned, even almost worried at what she's hearing. Also at 2:26. :D
But Tina Arena at 1:38 doesn't seem to look much different :), and Michel Fugain at 1:55 almost the same.


How much the translation is reliable? Who did it?

Long story short.....I was able to get in touch with a young woman who used to live in Paris. She's about 5 years younger than Alizee. She moved to this country several years ago and now does tutoring or the occassional translation services that someone like I was looking for so I'd say as far as the conversations, the translations are very accurate.

I did not have her translate the songs because there are interpretations of the songs already out there and I get charged by the letter.

But with the interpretations of the songs out there, I found in many cases they were all lacking at one point or another and I had to read between the lines for what I thought was being said.

But I did the same thing with all the DALS episodes in case you haven't seen them with the translations supplied by Marguerite.

Now as far as the song Idealizer. Christophe Willem has a very strong voice and it's very possible that she was just blown away with it.

But it looks like you might not have seen conversations in here concerning this song on this show, so I have to tell you a little about the history "in case" you aren't aware of it.

After her separation from MF, her first album was Psych.

"Some" people said that the song Idealizer was directed at MF in a negative way. I never really looked into it until this SAGA show came out. I looked at different interpretations.....well actually I think I only found one and that was by RMJ and with my very limited knowledge of French, but doing a lot of research into the words, "I" came up with this interpretation and I feel it's fairly accurate but I invite others to look at this song and see what they come up with.

So after controversy arose when the album was released about this song, the writer of the song said it was about a woman who had a lot of issues and eventually commited suicide. With out naming names, assuming he hasn't, I think a lot of people had trouble swallowing that.

Gotta get ready for work and will discuss more tomorrow if you care to continue this but one thing I want to remind you of is some of the pronouns I believe is the right term in this song can be interpreted as either he or she. In my translation, I used he, but if you look at the song and substitute she, it gives it an interesting meaning.

So I don't know if she was affected by the meaning of the song or just Chritophe's voice. I think it was just his voice.

Good to know that. Now finally I'll take a look at it.

Well, I never was much interested in the interpretation of the songs. I mostly appreciate how the song is sung, sound, melody and Lili's voice. And that thing, the interpretation of the songs, is highly controversial and of much speculative nature, and I think it is only that the writer of the song knows what the song is really about. So I was never much interested in that stuff. But if you feel that it is interesting to comment upon it, then please continue.

Well it's interesting if you want to know the ins and outs; the history of what happened and what could've happened and it's a long story, full of speculation and little fact, but I'll mention some of the things I've seen and heard over the years and though there are things I believe, I still cant say what is fact and what is fiction and you have to look at what's out there and make your own determination.

Of course it started with ML. A story about a young sexually active girl. There is controversy about what the line and I'm speaking from memory "Et quand je donne ma longue au chats" meant.

Then we skip to J'en ai marre. Another song supposedly written in Freudian terms. You have to remember that MF designed her own sex toy, then wrote a song about it. It's said she's an expert in writing songs with lines that have multiple meanings.

Now supposedly Alizée was well aware of the fact that several of the songs she sang, had sexual meanings, ala ML, but she had no idea about the deeper sexual meanings.

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Enter stage left Jeremy. It's alleged that he told her about the deeper sexual meanings of these songs and also that she should've been making a lot more money than she was.

So Alizée was at this point deeply in love with this guy. She trusted him and believed what he said, I think and I emphasize think, that she got fed up with MF and LB. So Jeremy himself was a young singer doing well and Alizée was doing extremely well, so they got very big heads and thought they could make it on their own and she decided to leave MF and I have to mention Mylene was the most successful female singer in French history. A part of that was she used sex to sell. She even designed her own sex toy, then wrote a song about it (Sextonic), but I think would've done very well otherwise.

So thanks to Jeremy, Alizée went out on her own and her first album was Psych. It was a very lame album in my opinon, keeping in mind, people in France look more to international artists than they do to French artists. She was competing against the best of the best of the best and Psych was far from their league.

The worst thing about that album was Idealizer. It came out and the rumors came out that it was directed at MF. Alizée sent the first cd from that album to MF/LB and they didn't respond and you have to wonder why.

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As close as Alizée and MF and LB were in those three years, after the separation, years later Alizée said she'd like to work with MF again, but I believe there was only one message from MF to her. I think MF is a good person, maybe too sexual, but a good person. I think she was offended by Idealizer, but willing to look the other way, but LB, her partner for so many years and who was very responsible for the amount of success she had, wasn't so willing.

Getting back to the deeper meaning of some of her early songs, I think many people never realized the significance of the red shoe that was on stage in En Concert.