Coldplay blamed of plagiarize an Alizée song
 

There's a lot of buzz around this, in France.

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/people/0,,40...coldplay-.html


Its' pretty obvious...

Oh, not this again... :(

OMG they copyed Alizee fore shur!!

Ah come on, legal issues again? Bullcrap.

Why do they drag Lili into this? Didn't it say it was Mylene's song? D:

no way anyone could get anything out of it

Wait, I translated that wrong.


But in my opinion, Viva la Vida doesn't sound anything like JEAM =_=

This has been out there for a while and the general consensus seems to be: the songs sound eerily similar at points, but this was clearly not intentional. But the "buzz" is favorable, people in France need to be reminded how wonderful her music was and is, and just having her name in the news is a definite plus.

Did you listen to the mix between the 2 songs? ( my link)`

That's not bad...;)

The most that would happen would be for Coldplay to agree they infringed and then pay Mylene (not ALizée). I doubt Mylene would sue. Most likely the record companies would simply deal with it.

All Alizée can hope to get out of it is a few headlines - or perhaps many if the press really runs with it. As we all know, headlines are essentially always good publicity. :)

Let's hope the make a BIG deal out of it. :):)

With so many thousands of songs out there, many are bound to sound alike. That's common sense. These songs do resemble each other a bit, but not nearly as much as others i've heard.

the beats are the same.....what kind of idiotic buffoon would sue over a resemblance of beat? On second thought, never mind.....theres alot of people in the world who would sue over that, and if any of you ever meet the person that wrote that report, please help me call him/her a duma*$

I don't think its simply the supposed resemblance between the songs that is causing so many people to jump the gun and fling accusations of plagiarism at Coldplay. Rather, I think it is the fact that Coldplay has built up a reputation of being plagiarists through numerous blatant quotes by bandmembers as well as other accusations from other bands. Whether or not this is true, with this stigma, it seems as though even if the slightest resemblance exists between one of their songs and another bands work, the word "plagiarism" is immediately thrown about by journalists and music fans.

I think you're right, Mav. Everybody is going crazy about this because Coldplay is notorious for plagiarizing, even if they never did. The press has accused them so many times it just sticks, and as you said, the media LOVES to bring it back out whenever their new songs sound the littlest bit like another song. This probably brings ratings for all the media :P

And as said before, it gets Alizée's name out in the headlines and news, so she gets some free publicity :)

More !!
 

Well, I didn't see that LCI.fr article until I came to this thread, but check it out, more:
(from nidalizee.com)
http://www.nidalizee.com/MEDIAS/pres.../public272.jpg
This is just hilarious. LOL
And what about poor Laurent? Even in this thread people saying stuff about Mylène even, but no one talking about the guy who actually composed the music, which came before the lyrics if they were following what Alizée once said was the formula - Laurent wrote music and then Mylène came up with lyrics to go with it. Though they all worked together to define and create the songs, sure.
It's just funny because it's so ridiculous. But yeah, whatever gets her name out there. She's the performer. Her name is on the cover.

I knew there was a good reason I liked their song. :p

Whats happening?
Is coldplay trying to imitate JEAM?

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this isn't the first time?:confused:

Who knows where Coldplay got it's sound. I doubt they actually intentionally copied JEAM. That seems ridiculous, but it certainly has the sound and the catchy beginning; so, maybe they did! At a certain point one must recognize that there are just so many sounds one can use and they are bound to show up in more than one place, yet, there are others who have claimed they "plagerized" music. It's probably all nothing, but believe what you want.

That is way too close to be an accident. I can see where the beat might be the same or even a riff or two. But in this case it is almost with in a note or two of being just a bad cover band. What, did they think people wouldn't remember a song written five years ago? They are either total idiots to keep doing this or they're doing it for publicity. I think the latter.

Translation of article.



The two pieces, mixed together, are here


Alizée plagiarized by Coldplay? Surprising as it may seem, is what many fans of the young singer, relaying information on their blogs and other webzines on the internet. At Viva la Vida, one of its last planetary tubes out this year, the British group would in fact largely inspired I'm tired, a song of the former muse of Mylène Farmer output in 2003.

And indeed, if we listen attentively to the offending piece, it is clear that resembles the title of Alizée. Apart from a few different arrangements and words that have obviously nothing to do, the same agreements and almost the same pace. Possible explanations for this disturbing similarity: the melody of Viva La Vida and I was so tired "banal" it necessarily looks to many existing tracks. So voluntary plagiarism or coincidence?

Denial of the English quartet

Anyway, this is not the first time the group Coldplay, and in particular singer Chris Martin, are dealing with plagiaires. Beginning in 2008, Andrew Hoepfner, leader of creaky Boards, obscure group had accused New York, including internet, Chris Martin for his largely inspired by their song The Song I Did not Write (translate the song I did not written ...).
This title has been played by the group during a concert in New York in October 2007 in which the singer of Coldplay attended.

At that first indictment, the British quartet has already responded. In a denial issued in June 2008 by the English music magazine NME (New Musical Express), he said, evidence that Chris Martin has never attended the concert in question as it was in recording session in a studio in London.

Remains "the case Alizée." And to silence the rumor circulating on the web globalized, there is no doubt that Coldplay will have a good explanation. It is expected therefore denied the next, final and without appeal.

or they thought it would go good with their song witch it does there is no reason to be upset about it

On top of all this, an American band called Creaky Boards said that Viva la Vida was copied off of their ironically titled song, "The Songs I Didn't Write"! If you guys already know this, I'm sorry for posting it again.

also one out there saying they copied Joe Satriani too

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so whatever its a decent song so its all good

I have to say, Coldplay's song resembles Joe Satriani's far more than Alizée's. But I found this triple mashup a week ago, and I thought it was pretty nice:

Titled "Coldplay vs Joe Satriani ft. Alizée"

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I actually think it sounds more similar to Satch's than Alizée's.

bam ba da bam bam ba da ba da bam bam :p

Yeah I'm bored because I'm waiting in a line that's three miles long :o

Maybe I gotta listen better, they still don't sound alike to me :confused::confused:

Not until Coldplay can do this:

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2357/alizeeir3.png

^hillarious

I did a search and it wasn't too hard to find. My guess is it was deliberate. :(

"In a recent interview with Rolling Stone magazine, Coldplay front man Chris Martin has admitted to plagiarizing many, if not most, of the songs he wrote. Specifically, Chris said:

“We’re definitely good, but I don’t think you can say we’re that original,” he notes. “I regard us as being incredibly good plagiarists.”

In another article, the song “Fix You” was specifically mentioned as being a copy of Elbow’s “Grace Under Pressure”. To that, guitarist Jonny Buckland had this to say.

“We’ve never so directly stolen off anyone before. We’ve never paid for our plagiarism.”

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2005/...ts-plagiarism/

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:mad: Let's get these bad boys! :o

Oh for crying out loud....I'm Fed Up and Long Live Life, I can really see the two songs resemblance.....one is about a king falling down on his luck, and the other is about being tired of nonsense, how could i have missed there similaritys.

They might have "copied" the sound of it. But one has to understand that artists are constantly influenced by other artists. So, the sound/songs may be similar to other artists that a particular artists has been influenced by. I like Coldplay anyways.

I've read the articles and all the comments. I've taken into consideration all the pros and cons and I've come to this conclusion: I don't care.

YEAYEAH! that makes two of us!

Plagiarize - Inspire! :)

Sue their asses lily!!!


What did they do now again?

I think their is a certain time span were you are allowed to copied the song without someones consent.
BTW how does Weird Al get away with it, I don't think he pays for rights when he copies songs


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Weird Al gets consent from the artist or their people before he makes a parody and thats why their was such a big deal made about the Coolio song. He made the song because he got consent from Coolio's people, but not Coolio himself and Coolio didn't want it done. I don't know if he could be sued if he didn't get the green light, never really looked into it and I don't really know about it to much.

Not to sure if the source about the Coldplay's band members quotes are credible, but yeah not that big of a deal to me. I don't really like the bands music so I will continue to ignore them and listen to bands I like, kinda like Rocket. ;)

I think I interpret this quote a little differently. I don't think he was suggesting that they plagiarize other artists deliberately. Rather, it's a subconscious effect.

No art is truly "original". All artists are influenced to some extent by others and their creative output is an amalgam of those influences. That's how I interpreted the quote.

Incidentally, I don't hear the similarity to JAM at all.