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wasabi622 09-07-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBarrett (Post 139440)
Ol' Jung's retiring that post. You can go ahead and take over. ;)

i feel a bit safe when i say that i find myself to be quite eligible for that position. :p

i've got the hand to hand taken care of, as well as with firearms. :p
though, i doubt my firearms ability could even measure up against Jungs!

VVVACCPLPNLY 02-20-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 138813)
Cheers to you too, Jess! 'n Thanks! Jalen, Fall06 > back at you ;)

Ahem:
délitdocile has very kindly given us a reply to the original question:

Alizée chante sans accent, et ce depuis le début. Elle articule bien avec une prononciation "classique" tout à fait orthodoxe.On peut en juger dans une chanson comme Psychédélices.
D'ailleurs, je sais que le clip de ML a servi dans des classes de langue en Allemagne et en UK. C'est peut-être une idée à creuser Aux USA...
Elle a un peu d'accent, et quelques expressions méridionales dans ses tous premiers interviews.


"Alizée sings without an accent, and since the very start. She uses good articulation and completely "classic", orthodox pronunciation. You can tell in a song like Psychédélices.
Besides, I know that the Moi Lolita video was used in language classes in Germany and the UK. That could be an idea to try out in the USA...
She had a bit of an accent, and used some southern expressions in her very first interviews."

So there. This may be just one reply, more may come back still, but I concur and don't expect a lot of variation... As for the "Growling Rrrrrrr's" in the back of the throat, yeah, that's French. Practice that, if you haven't, a lot of Americans find that sound impossible.



Wasabi, buddy, and all who want to know another language: "proficient" depends on what you want the language for--traveling, reading lyrics, or writing speeches for Sarkozy. I'd say anyone determined to do so could learn enough to travel around France comfortably in a few weeks. But I don't consider myself "proficient", maybe I know about half of what there is to know. Maybe not even.

Really, French is wack. It's not gaining in world popularity polls the way English is. They've got two genders for all their nouns, a million diffferent endings for all the verbs, adjectives that have to match the gender and plurality of the noun they modify.... I mean who invented this crap??? Oh yeah. French people.

A language is a creation. Created by a community. And like all creations, it reflects the philosophy and values of its creators. Superficially, then, while French seems to almost value style more than substance, it also reflects a deep reverence for tradition. As in "Franch is ze best! It has always been ze best! We are not going to fock wees zat!" If you agree, you will probably want to learn French. If you don't agree, no problem, you just keep walking. Well, that's my take on it, anyway!

{Final tip - WordReference.com is better than a standard English-French dictionary by far. Although not as portable. But just try the "conjugator".}

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French, Spanish, German, Korean, Italian---Aren't we a bunch of cunning linguists? sorry, just had to say that one

Say, it occurred to me, for those of you in ROTC's:
The services have some excellent language programs. I learned about 5 years worth of German in under a year. They may have classes near you, or they may cover your tuition at your college? I don't know for sure, but it may not hurt to ask someone about it!

Don't say you want to learn Corsican, though!:eek:

Not to be a jerk, but the Romans invented this nightmarish part of Romance languages. I have had Latin one and two in high school, and that was the worst part. But it has assisted me in teaching myself French. I am by no means proficient, but can at least form simple sentences, and I can look at an English to French translation and tell to some degree whether it looks right.

FanDeAliFee 02-20-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 138746)
...a family just moved in down the block (with kids same ages as ours) that are from France! He's a helicopter engineer. We've been helping them adjust. Cool! Who knows what this could lead to, but they are heading back in a couple years. Maybe we'll have weaseled ourselves an invite to France by then! :D

If you need help, Boston-based <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/member.php?u=1762">Scruffydog777</a> can speak accent-free Helicopter to the guy! ;)

Melle A. 06-22-2010 04:01 PM

There is a Corsican accent? I don't have idea, but maybe it's because Italy is near Corse, and some things from Corse are from Italian too they're like connected... there's an interview about it when she went to Italy.

user472884 06-22-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Melle A. (Post 169941)
There is a Corsican accent? I don't have idea, but maybe it's because Italy is near Corse, and some things from Corse are from Italian too they're like connected... there's an interview about it when she went to Italy.

Yea there is. She apparently has one (which I never picked up on), and she's been called out on it several times

SDB 06-23-2010 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Melle A. (Post 169941)
There is a Corsican accent? I don't have idea, but maybe it's because Italy is near Corse, and some things from Corse are from Italian too they're like connected... there's an interview about it when she went to Italy.

Not only an accent, but a language aswell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_language

nudeeyes7 09-16-2011 05:14 PM

no doubts abt it that french is a sweet language i have learnt it too but its was not that much easy as i expected it to be but still i learnt it after 6 months Yay!!!! lol

Bigdan 09-16-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 138746)
(p.s.: *For what it's worth, I posted on Lillytown.net to ask if the French detect a Corsican accent in her singing -- no answer yet. But I'm pretty sure the answer's gonna be "no".) C

The answer is effectively "no". A lot of french singers lost their accents when they sing. But I can say that what's alert me when I pass her in the street in Paris, it's precisely her light south accent, and her unique tone.

para.izée 09-16-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdan (Post 208907)
The answer is effectively "no". A lot of french singers lost their accents when they sing. But I can say that what's alert me when I pass her in the street in Paris, it's precisely her light south accent, and her unique tone.

Precisely what makes me so addicted to her long TV and radio interviews.:thumb:

If only they they had more quantifiable returns for her, being that such publicity consumes a lot of resources from Alizée, seen and not so apparent.

Un-rêve 09-16-2011 06:16 PM

Alizée has the sweetest voice and I've always liked the way she says Oui.. well sometimes because of her accent it sounds like she's saying Wish!


She says it here too as she's talking to the show host at around the 5:26 and 5:30 minute mark. ;)

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