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Euphoria 02-24-2013 02:04 PM

Mylene is fully aware of that. Just listen to the song "Et tournoie."

lapinschous 02-24-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsaire (Post 237600)
Myself, I believe the concept is rather simple: it shows LB’s inner conflict which results from using MF as his puppet:

At 1min, you can see how he uses his hands as those of a puppeteer manipulating an inanimate object when talking about directing her. He also mentions talking little to MF on set and the need to position her by touching her. LB reflects on this, saying: “It was very weird stuff”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rr_CAQxmAk#t=1m00s

Holy cr*p! It's so obvious when you see his body language, he really considers Mylène as his "thing" ... :13:yeah a puppet is the best word describe the way he interacts with people under his command... and I suspect it was probably the same regarding his behavior with lili.. He must have really powerful psychologically persuasive skills... Such a smart mind.. to me, he's both fascinating and scary :fear:

Bigdan 02-24-2013 04:54 PM

My message to Lapinchous :

http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...s-35814409.jpg

:D

Future Raptor Ace 02-24-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdan (Post 237619)

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Corsaire 02-25-2013 01:32 AM

@lapinschous
Yes, LB’s body language is quite revealing... and there are plenty of other evidence that show MF was basically his puppet. I think Alizée was also his “thing”, but maybe not the same way MF was.

@Euphoria
Myself, I don’t see how ‘Et tournoie’ refers to this particular subject (even with the "pantin translucide" reference). But I would say that MF definitely knew that she was used as a puppet. After all, it was pretty obvious. I believe she just went along with it because she saw an opportunity that she never could have had without LB.

Rev 02-25-2013 02:56 AM

MF needed guidance. LB provided it. She is the performer. He is the orchestrator.

AJ needed guidance (to have the path laid out for her to follow)... :)

lapinschous 02-25-2013 03:05 AM

Bigdan, Raptor...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3025844224/h94E66000/

Corsaire 02-25-2013 10:42 AM

Rev, don’t forget that LB is a very, very strange individual. You cannot think and analyse his work and his influence as you would analyse that of an average type of guy. There are pretty dark and occult concepts in there. All evidence seems to indicate that, for LB, MF was not so much a performer, but rather an instrument. She was more like an “object” that could be manipulated and controlled. This is not figuratively speaking; this is a real case of a man who used an artist in a way that she becomes a puppet serving his art.

I don’t believe LB approached the Alizée concept the same way. For starters, Alizée was quite different from MF and I am not sure the “puppet” thing would have worked very effectively. Nevertheless, I think he still did use some concepts that are related to mind control, as in the JPVA and PTB videos.


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