First of all, Corsaire, I want to thank you for putting your thoughts out here on the matter of if we can or should not talk about Alizée's song lyrics and/or Alizée sexually.
As some of you may know, FanDeAlifee chose to post about Alizée elsewhere(which doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't browse here) a couple days ago due to an anonymous member politely asking him not to discuss or even mention some things about Alizée or members of her family sexually in threads of any kind here partly for the sake of the forum's well-being and growth. I would like to officially come out and say that, yes, I was the one who asked him not to discuss or even mention some things about Alizée or members of her family sexually in threads of any kind here partly for the sake of the forum's well-being and growth.
And in doing this I am not trying to point out, put to shame, or do any sort of harm to FanDeAlifee or his image, I would like to summarize the 2 things he said in 2 seperate threads that led me to send him a message to him about it all(NOTE: I cannot specifically quote and link these 2 things because the threads were changed to "Invisible" by the mods):
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-When FanDeAlifee was harmlessly and in a good mindset, trying to help the forum and its members out by trying to create ideas for an official AAm song, he came to a point in the song he was making(which was based off a real song) that was sketchy in a way that he mentioned that the lyric for one of the lines should not say "Alizee is bending over to give a rainbow" because FanDeAlifee said that would imply Alizee was hosting a rainbow party. Now I know he meant no harm in mentioning that, especially since he said the lyric should not say that. But he still typed into the post some very degrading things in that sentence implying that Alizee did those degrading things. And that sentence was brought to the attention of the mods and that thread was made "Invisible".
-In a caption to a photo of Annily's legs in high heels in the "erotic symbolism of the high heel" thread, FanDeAlifee said
he guaranteed Annily will not leave this life as a virgin(NOTE: he did not say how this would come to be). I found that to fall under the category of "Alizee and the members of her family should not be discussed about sexually in any kind of thread here(except about Alizee when talking about her song lyrics)".
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Now some of you may say, "Aaronius31, you are doing just as much harm as FanDeAlifee did by repeating what he said in a thread here, which is totally hypocritical of what you are trying to point out". But my response to that is, Corsaire asked we put it all out on the line what we think to get past this all, which in my mind needs to happen also.
Now, to get to the point I was trying to prove by summarizing the 2 suggestive matters posted by FanDeAlifee in this post. The reason I summarized them here is to show that (in my opinion and in Corsaire's words of question):
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Originally Posted by Corsaire
always leaving Alizée, the person, out of it[/B]
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We should be able to discuss the mature side to Alizee's song lyrics like Corsaire and several others said, but we should
TOTALLY LEAVE ALIZEE, the person and members of her family, OUT OF IT.
And here is one of the solutions we made to solve this problem a while back that not many people caught on to obviously:
When creating a thread with topics relating to the sexual content of Alizee's song lyrics(AND NOT ALIZEE THE PERSON), the Thread-Creator should put [MDO] in front of the thread title to warn readers that the thread contains Mature Discussion Only. And to go along with that title-warning, the Thread-Creator should include a note in the first post of that thread of something along these lines:
Link:
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronius31
Any thread labeled with [MDO] is meant for Mature Discussion Only. This means that while in this thread, you agree to only discuss and debate in a mature, and civil manner, even if you dont agree with the content/ideas presented.
You will remain respectful to all members, and to Alizée
No attacks on people, ideas, or opinions.
If you are unable to discuss the topic in a civil mature way, then this topic is not for you! Posts that violate this rule may be removed.
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See how I put the plentiful amount of space after the post to make sure that if someone did not want to read any part of that mature discussion, that it is guaranteed they will not see any of it since the space will take up their whole screen?
And I also want to give credit to Brian01 for first conceiving that idea and to Corsaire for mentioning in the first post of this thread something of that nature saying it should be a thread-warning like this: [sexual content]
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But now to get to the even bigger point of this whole thing...Has anyone taken the time to step back and see that this forum is struggling for various reasons? And that thanks to Ben and the minuscule amount of dedicated donators(which i am very thankful to), this forum is still alive? And that this forum has come VERY CLOSE several times to shutting down for weeks at a time or even permanently? And that we are not promoting, but instead ripping apart the chances of this forum growing in numbers and in healthiness by mentioning things that the general public would not like to see when searching for a forum about Alizee?
My friends, this forum is holding on for dear life, especially since Ben is almost never online for legitimate reasons(and I am not saying that in a bad way to put down Ben, I am simply stating fact). And Ben not being online and not being able to be contacted makes it near impossible to get him to fix the forum since HE has the software, server information, and other things that keep this forum going. Let me point out an example of why this is important: a month or two ago the forum took a big hit since it was down for 2 whole days due to something only Ben could fix, which thankfully after several attempts MerciAlizee and I were able to bring to Ben's attention that he needed to fix the forum for it to get back online.
So all I'm saying is, while some people on here are discussing things that will most likely decrease the chance of more people joining this forum to help it grow, the forum is holding on to dear life while only being supported by Ben and the small amount of donators on this site.
So all I ask is this, can we please swiftly come to a decision that allows those who want to discuss mature things about Alizee's song lyrics to be able to do that while NONE of us being able to discuss or even mention sexual things that disrespect Alizee and her family?
Thankyou for reading what I have to say.