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Originally Posted by Deepwaters
...Polish ghetto under Nazi occupation?...
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Originally Posted by Deepwaters
...Alizée's songs could almost be written by completely different people. I know Laurent and Mylène DID write them, but they are so different from Mylène's own that it's clear to me there's a different influence at work...
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Ok, I don't know why I'm going to enjoin this speculation fest. I haven't even been around long, but what the hey. For the sake of argument, I'll point out that it is Mylène and Laurent who started this whole thing. It was their little experiment of picking up a fresh new talent and a young girl. I don't know who's idea it was, but assuming it is something that Mylène or both of them wanted to do, I think that it is something different that they did want to express that Mylène couldn't do herself. Also, I haven't gotten the impression that much of the music was influenced by anyone other than Laurent himself, though I remember from that JEAM performance interview, Lili said that she asked for more guitar and drums in the second album because she likes to dance. -great choice. After having both albums for several weeks now and being a fan for a few months, I think overall I like the second album better. Take 'Hey, Amigo' for instance. I love that song and I love the way the music starts out. Ok, getting off on a tangent. What I meant to say was that I agree with the statement by MiamMiam. Those shots of Mylène/Alizée clothing shows that as for official attire Mylène seems to have laid it out.
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Originally Posted by Deepwaters
...I wouldn't want to be the one to try to push Alizée around or make her do something she didn't want to do. My feeling is that wouldn't pay off well...
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Ok, I suppose your point is that if Alizée was not telling the truth, that could be considered pushing her around (coersion?). Anyway, to further my point, I'll try to characterize it this way: when Alizée started off with M&L, they were huge stars in their own right and experienced and resourceful adults. They came down as from on high and chose Alizée who was very lucky to be chosen. It's sort of hard to judge her feelings about that time from interviews, but I tend to think she was just thrilled to be chosen and quite happy to do what M&L wanted her to do. They helped make her into a huge star, something she had been training for for years (though she apparently did not really expect it to happen that way. who would?). From what Alizée has said, it sounds like they treated her very well. It's hard to look at that with scepticism. I have no reason to believe that anything she said was not true - warning her what her future would be like and the type of advice Alizée said that Mylène gave her.
Having said all that, I must make sure to point out that if it had not been Alizée herself, I'm not so sure it would have worked out so well (for me anyway).
I really would like to hear more stories about how they worked and what their relationship consisted of and what Alizée's life was like back then (and now).
Oh, just read DJ_Greg's post. What did she say that would make you think that? What I heard was that mostly Laurent came up with some music and then they discussed ideas for songs and what would go with the music, sometimes what ideas Alizée would like to express, and then while they all worked together on it, Mylène wrote the lyrics. She's the song writer. It was never a secret. Why would they credit it otherwise. In some bands, one guy writes the songs and that's that, no discussions, but just because it wasn't quite like that doesn't mean they needed to give Ali writing credits. It was done in a way that was meant to put Alizée up front as the sole persona and performer and thus necessarily she had to give some influence to it. Maybe the only question of influence I might have is where Alizée said that Mylène gave her advice rather than saying that she gave her direction. I got the impression that Mylène never wanted to act like she owned Ali. So that is why Mylène was very careful how she treated her. Mylène sounds like a really great person from the way Alizée characterizes it and from the appearance of things. I still have no reason to doubt any of that and don't know why Ali would need writing credits. Don't underestimate the great contributions of M&L.