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Originally Posted by Deepwaters
Watch the video I linked of "It's Not Fair." In that song, Allen is singing in quite graphic terms of a thoroughly inadequate, inconsiderate lover. "Lying in the wet spot in the middle of the bed," "spending hours giving head," references to the classic wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, I can see where Alizée would say that she could never do anything like this because she's too modest.
I think that's what she meant by "trashy."
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Originally Posted by docdtv
I agree with you, Deep. Alizée favors a more modest, circumspect, implied sexuality, of which I think the <i>Mademoiselle Juliette</i> music video is our best example. For example, the women in the bathtub are surely nude, but not even their breasts are visible to the camera. Someone's hair is indeed being tenderly handled, but not a more intimate body part.
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Originally Posted by Deepwaters
These are not subjects for polite conversation in mixed company, however much one may sympathize with the poor dear.
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Originally Posted by docdtv
I think that is true for pre-Baby Boom generations and some of the Baby Boom itself. But among Americans, I have found that the later someone was born, and the more formal education they have, the more likely they are to treat such a taboo with contempt or even amusement. The subject of the sexual selfishness of men has long been a staple of chat shows, and not just those led by professional sexologists like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer">Dr. Ruth Westheimer</a>
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The material above is from a posting I titled: <i>A time, place, and context to discuss everything requiring discussion?</i>
This morning at about 7:10am Eastern US time, I learned more about the Corsican girl when <i>Limelight by Alizée, la radio officielle d'Alizée</i> played for me Lily Allen's <i>It's Not Fair</i>, albeit without the slyly disorienting C&W announcer setup one sees in the music video version.
The betting window is now taking odds on whether Alizée would countenance Photoshopping her head into the revealing photo of the rudely gesturing Lily Allen <a href="http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/lily-allen-pussy-flash-landing-strip-no-panties-upskirt-01.jpg">here</a>. Note to Talmudic scholars: What is the aesthetic and moral difference between doing that and posing in the same manner for a photo yourself? Do different considerations about social signaling apply when one is playing a staged role or participating in spontaneous, personal social life? In which of these spheres, or both, do "publicity" media fall? And one final brain teaser: If Alizée were to use her personal digital artistry to synthesize "provocative" photos of Mylène Farmer (<i>sic.</i>) with the latter's acquiescence, using <a href="http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/docdtv/Technology/VirtualActors.htm">state-of-the-art-technology</a>, who would be posing that way? Alizée? Mylène? Both?
For additional background material, see: <a href="http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=159035&postcount=18"><i>Alizée, sex and AAm culture</i></a>