Mexican popularity theory

[FanDeAliFee]

Why is Alizée so popular in Mexico? I would like to suggest a possibility.

The "Parler Tout Bas" music video reminds me of the Latin American Quinceaños celebration. You have the doll, the cross and the chambelán. To top it off, in real life, Alizée even has a "Chatelain" (sic. - close enough!) And supposedly an admiration for French culture inspired this custom. Ok, you do have to wait for the "Mes Courants Électriques" album cover for the shoe change!

I also find it interesting that the departure point for the plot in the very telenovela in which Alizée appeared was Candy's trauma as a Quinceañera.
(See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Tontas_No_Van_al_Cielo ).

What do you think of my theory, Karlalizee?

Perhaps this suggests a way to make and keep Alizée popular in Latin America. If Felix Mendelssohn's "Wedding March" can be a staple at weddings, why can't we try to introduce playing "Parler Tout Bas" at the Quinceaños? Or make giving a copy on CD/DVD to the Quinceañera a modern tradition?

Forgive me for being practical, but if one could gift decoratively-cased CD/DVDs, maybe many of them could even be legitimately licensed and sold! And at the worst, even counterfeit copies could help recruit a few new fans.

[user472884]

an interesting theory, but I don't think so... that's like saying Michael Jackson likes Marilyn Manson because they both look like scary-ass white women...

Mainly because she was (and is) a hell of a lot more popular for Mes Courants and Psychédélices than she is for Gourmandises.

I think it has to do with her sex appeal, personally. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that's an undeniable significant reason.

[Fall]

Originally Posted by Jalen

Michael Jackson likes Marilyn Manson because they both look like scary-ass white women...

That's not very nice of you
"Before you judge me, try hard to love me" - "Childhood" MJ

[Alex]

Although I've been a fan since her first visit to Mexico, since that day I have read, viewed, listened, all Mexican media possible to try to understand how could a foreign non-spanish speaker artist became a phenomenon in just a few years after her famous albums were released years before. I have noticed that since that first visit her fan base and admirers vary tremendously from different ages and sexes. It's true that her popularity success is due and gived by various factors:

-Internet(YouTube)
-La Isla Bonita
-J'en ai Marre Performance (not the actual music video)
-Radio Stations
-TV shows and mentions
-Fan Promotions

Adult popularity came from Bars showing the J'en ai Marre Performance to adults (men), men then thought when Alizee did her '08 Tour she would perform in a VERY sexy and sensual way. Men then had REALLY had hopes that she would perform like those videos seen at the bars. Not wanting to know anything more about this sensual artist they most probably invited more friends to go see her, just to satisfy their sexual thoughts. After the Mex concerts this specific fan/admirers left dissapointed, and much likely not to be considered anymore "fans'

In the other hand young adults, teens, children, and others saw the Isla Bonita performance and got seduced by this carisma, talent, voice, movemnets, uniqueness that Alizee showed. this group of admirers later became fans and started those well-known Mexican forums and clubs. Later they started doing ALOT of promotions not only in Mexico City but as well as the whole Mexican Repuplic(Guadalajara, D.F., Puebla, Monterrey, etc..) Media soon noticed this great fuzz and popularity that was growing of a French POP Star in Mexican terretory, so then decided to play some of her music in radio stations, music stores after great demand brought all her albums including En Concert, TV stations made several(until this day) TV segments, mentions, showed her music videos, and other shows that showed Mexico who was this "lolita". As a consequence of this media "boom" many, many people showed great interest in her and also became fans of her.

As for why not this Alizee "pandemic" has hit Latin America, well...it's very simple...people are just starting to know about her, and those fans have not organized correctly and well enough to make her known in their country like what has happened in Mexico.

I hope this clarifies a little more to why her popularity in Mexico grew in a very fast pace. I'm not the best member here to explain this but I try to keep up to date with most of the media Mexico posts about her.

Members like Ben, Edgar, RondasX, and others would better explain this for their experiences in this movement.

[User22]

Originally Posted by Alex

Although I've been a fan since her first visit to Mexico, since that day I have read, viewed, listened, all Mexican media possible to try to understand how could a foreign non-spanish speaker artist became a phenomenon in just a few years after her famous albums were released years before. I have noticed that since that first visit her fan base and admirers vary tremendously from different ages and sexes. It's true that her popularity success is due and gived by various factors:

-Internet(YouTube)
-La Isla Bonita
-J'en ai Marre Performance (not the actual music video)
-Radio Stations
-TV shows and mentions
-Fan Promotions

Adult popularity came from Bars showing the J'en ai Marre Performance to adults (men), men then thought when Alizee did her '08 Tour she would perform in a VERY sexy and sensual way. Men then had REALLY had hopes that she would perform like those videos seen at the bars. Not wanting to know anything more about this sensual artist they most probably invited more friends to go see her, just to satisfy their sexual thoughts. After the Mex concerts this specific fan/admirers left dissapointed, and much likely not to be considered anymore "fans'

In the other hand young adults, teens, children, and others saw the Isla Bonita performance and got seduced by this carisma, talent, voice, movemnets, uniqueness that Alizee showed. this group of admirers later became fans and started those well-known Mexican forums and clubs. Later they started doing ALOT of promotions not only in Mexico City but as well as the whole Mexican Repuplic(Guadalajara, D.F., Puebla, Monterrey, etc..) Media soon noticed this great fuzz and popularity that was growing of a French POP Star in Mexican terretory, so then decided to play some of her music in radio stations, music stores after great demand brought all her albums including En Concert, TV stations made several(until this day) TV segments, mentions, showed her music videos, and other shows that showed Mexico who was this "lolita". As a consequence of this media "boom" many, many people showed great interest in her and also became fans of her.

As for why not this Alizee "pandemic" has hit Latin America, well...it's very simple...people are just starting to know about her, and those fans have not organized correctly and well enough to make her known in their country like what has happened in Mexico.

I hope this clarifies a little more to why her popularity in Mexico grew in a very fast pace. I'm not the best member here to explain this but I try to keep up to date with most of the media Mexico posts about her.

Members like Ben, Edgar, RondasX, and others would better explain this for their experiences in this movement.

Sabemos que la razón por la Alizee es una gran celebridad en México ahora!
***We now know the reason Alizee is a huge celebrity/hit in Mexico now!***

Thanks to Alex's Awesomeness

[-OC-]

Nice theory, but i don't think you're right, partly because Parler tout Bas and Gourmandises as a whole wasn't as popular as her two other albums were in Mexico (at least not what i know of).

Wasn't the huge boost she gained in Mexico mostly because of JEAM and the dance that followed with it? I would guess you would have to ask an mexican member of this forum (Alex perhaps?) to be precisely correct, but i've heard that's practically the reason she, "got over" so to speak, in Mexico. Of course, the fact that she covered Madonna's "La Isla Bonita", a sung inspired very much by latin rhythmics, didn't exactly decrease her popularity.

[Roman]

Yes, Alizée says it was because of La Isla Bonita, which is why she did a reprise of it in 2008 and included it on a Mexican edition of Psychédélices. However, from what I have noticed, it's all about J'en ai marre. Maybe Alizée just doesn't want to say that.

[FanDeAliFee]

Thanks for your responses. I agree, -OC-, it would be nice to have some Mexican input. Karla is of Venezuelan extraction, but surely must know a lot about Mexico from friends, having grown up on the Rio Grande. Roman, I will accept at face value your assertion about Alizée's explanation. But I also think she said at least once that her Mexican fans like best when she sings in French, rather than Spanish (she did not mention English in that context).

The Hispanic references aside, "La Isla Bonita" is of course ("Corse", haha once again) a half-decent translation of Corsica's sobriquet, "L’Île de Beauté," which keeps it in the "Alizée tradition" of referencing her origin, her name and its meaning. Add to that it started as a Madonna song, and covering it was probably most irresistible for our favorite chanteuse.

Is there some reason Alizée's Mexican breakthrough can't be repeated elsewhere in Latin America? Mexico is among the wealthiest states in the region, but there are others. There are lots of strange things happening in Venezuela now, but maybe it is on the list, too. Karla, you listening yet?

And here's another question: Concentrating on Mexico again, can you guys think of any ways to put some more pesos into one of Alizée's leather handbags, other than fostering a new Quinceaños custom, as I suggested?

[FanDeAliFee]

Originally Posted by docdtv

Is there some reason Alizée's Mexican breakthrough can't be repeated elsewhere in Latin America? Mexico is among the wealthiest states in the region, but there are others.

The old post here translates Alizée as replying so:
Q. Will you visit soon other countries in Latin America?
A. Yes, of course I will. My plans are to introduce myself in Argentina and Chile.

This is the strategy for which I had advocated in the quote. I wonder if it still is active a year later.

[Plaz]

i'm mexican but certainly not enough (never actually been to mexico) to answer this...