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Old 09-30-2006, 02:53 AM
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I just stumbled upon this analysis of J'en ai marre while digging around in the Alizée Alliance (the French forum linked from Le Nid d'Alizée, the site who's webmaster received the letter from Alizée). I only thought the song was hinting at other things, I mean the conclusions drawn in this will completely change how you feel about the song. It was done by Marine, a 16 year member, but a quick check of the comments show that most people that commented on it seem to agree that it for the most part seems plausible, but might be stretching it a bit. Here's the analysis in French (I'll post a transalation later if wanted). http://www1.france-jeunes.net/lire-d...marre-8415.htm

Basically Marine says that although innocent looking at first JEAM is a song all about female masturbation...
Like I said J'en ai marre will never be the same, at least for me...and I was worried about the damn zuchinni line...

PS: This only applies to the French lyrics as the song was rewritten and not directly translated into English.

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Old 09-30-2006, 03:59 AM
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I knew it had a deeper meaning behind it, but not that... lol. Wow... just wow.
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Old 09-30-2006, 04:04 AM
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If she is alluding to that in the song, this just means that Alizée was a much more well-adjusted individual at 19 than most girls that age ;-) That's how you can look at it if your attraction to her isn't necessarily sexual...
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Old 09-30-2006, 08:31 AM
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I just stumbled upon this analysis of J'en ai marre while digging around in the Alizée Alliance (the French forum who's webmaster received the letter from Alizée).
Emilie isn't webmaster of Alizée Alliance. She's webmaster of Le Nid d'Alizée.


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I only thought the song was hinting at other things, I mean the conclusions drawn in this will completely change how you feel about the song. It was done by Marine, a 16 year member, but a quick check of the comments show that most people that commented on it seem to agree that it for the most part seems plausible, but might be stretching it a bit. Here's the analysis in French (I'll post a transalation later if wanted). http://www1.france-jeunes.net/lire-d...marre-8415.htm

Basically Marine says that although innocent looking at first JEAM is a song all about female masturbation...
Like I said J'en ai marre will never be the same, at least for me...and I was worried about the damn zuchinni line...

PS: This only applies to the French lyrics as the song was rewritten and not directly translated into English.
This analyze is way too stretched. It is meant to promote the sexual interpretation of the song at all costs. Even the first 3 lines makes you realize that the analyze is way off...

JEAM do speak of masturbation, it is clear. But not in scale that this analyze suggest.
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Old 09-30-2006, 08:52 AM
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Very very very far fetched for me. It looks like those ever going analysis of Nostradamus thingies. You can make them tell anything you want, and the contrary...
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:19 PM
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Ask Alizee what the song meant? Alizee made a video where she is breaking dinner dishes and saying, " I'm fed up "
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:12 PM
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Ask Alizee what the song meant? Alizee made a video where she is breaking dinner dishes and saying, " I'm fed up "
Yeah, that's what the song is "about". Saying it's about masturbation is actually too simple, because really that's just one of the things it talks about. Yes, that definitely is a theme in the song, and some of that analysis is probably correct, but a lot of it is looking at the song all from one angle too much like others have said.

I mean, the song is basically a description of a moment: she's in the tub, fed up with the world, starts touching herself, and thinks about all the things she's annoyed with. It's far from innocent, but to me the framework there - the subject of the song - is the stuff she's annoyed about. The masturbation is "just" something that happens along the way.
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:34 PM
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The masturbation is "just" something that happens along the way.
Well, I typed about a 5 paragraph response to this, and I then realized I was just babeling, so heres the shortened response.

Where does it say anything about masterbation? I spent a good hour studying this song, and I haven't found a thing other than double meaning lines that could possibly mean she was touching herself, but there is no referrence to that being in a sexual manner.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:24 PM
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Emilie isn't webmaster of Alizée Alliance. She's webmaster of Le Nid d'Alizée.
Sorry it was late, but that's the forum you are linked to from Le Nid d'Alizée should have been more clear.

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Very very very far fetched for me.
I was feeling the same way, nice to have it backed up by someone who's French is better. I mean there is some plausibility to some parts but not to the level that the analysis wants you to believe.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:34 PM
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Very very very far fetched for me. It looks like those ever going analysis of Nostradamus thingies. You can make them tell anything you want, and the contrary...
Exactly what I meant. Whoever wrote it, wants to believe that it talks about sex in every line.

Which it clearly doesn't do. Some of those notes are totally made up. They are absolutely no connection between the notes and the lyrics.
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