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Old 12-01-2008, 07:32 PM
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I think he will easily win in 2012. He doesn't have any competiton on the Republican side, only person that came close to beating him was Hilary.
I think he's pertaining to the end of the Mayan calender. Remember Y2K?

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The point is my guy beat your guy by a landslide. Get over it. The election was over by 10 e.s.t. That's laughable. It was a clear indication that the country wants to go in a different direction.
Yeah, Jung's not McCain or Obama, he, like me, doesn't give a shit about leaders.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:40 PM
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Who's bashing.
not saying it is happening here or not happening here, but its happening and not just to him but too all Republicans just as it has been in the past for the Dems and it will go back and forth like this for a long time to come

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I think he will easily win in 2012. He doesn't have any competiton on the Republican side, only person that came close to beating him was Hilary.
you took that wrong, but him winning again in 2012 depends on if he actually becomes a good president


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That's a load of baloney! He won because people think he will do a better job of handling the economy. Economy was issue #1 and it also helped that the he against the war in Iraq. There were other Black figures that ran for President but they didn't win because they weren't appealing or had polices that were not appealing to the mainstream that why they lost unlike Obama. And it is historic, he became the first Black President, something that I didn't expect to see it in my lifetime.
I know people who did though

besides what can a president truly do for the economy other than make it worse?
it is up to the people to create business
government created businesses usually end up costing the people just cause they are funded by the Government. Where does this money come from? tax payers

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The point is my guy beat your guy by a landslide. Get over it. The election was over by 10 e.s.t. That's laughable. It was a clear indication that the country wants to go in a different direction.
I never had a guy and you know not who I voted for

my guy is against higher gun control than there already is other than that and a few other issues there is little difference in either choice bud

remember I don't really have anything against Obama as a president yet as he hasn't been in office

I just don't like how he has all this media hype about him
that and his voting record

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Lol. I think the gun should read "Bush". If there was one guy that destroyed the Republican party it's Bush. The American people just took out their anger on McCain.
you really don't like Bush do you?

Bush did not destroy the Republican Party

people just need to realize the world isn't a perfect place where you don't need to protect yourself or your own country

or maybe try to help other people in other countries
you don't hear some of the true stuff that happens in Iraq

an voter from Iraq on Bush
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as always congratulations to Obama

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I think he's pertaining to the end of the Mayan calender. Remember Y2K?
indeed

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Yeah, Jung's not McCain or Obama, he, like me, doesn't give a shit about leaders.
and indeed
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:49 AM
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you took that wrong, but him winning again in 2012 depends on if he actually becomes a good president
Yes, you are right him being re-elected would be based on how good of a President he is. I was basing it on the fact that the last two Presidents who won by such landslide Ronald Regan & Bill Clinton easily won re-election.

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besides what can a president truly do for the economy other than make it worse?
it is up to the people to create business
government created businesses usually end up costing the people just cause they are funded by the Government. Where does this money come from? tax payers
Well, Obama will not create government businesses but he will do several things. He is working on a major stimulus package to jump start the economy, will reduce taxes for the middle class and businesses, and invest in rebuilding our infrastructure which will create more construction jobs, which is good news for you.  He actually has whole plethora of economic policies that he want’s to instill that you could check out on his website as well as other policies I don’t feel entertained enough to go into.


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you really don't like Bush do you?

Bush did not destroy the Republican Party

people just need to realize the world isn't a perfect place where you don't need to protect yourself or your own country

or maybe try to help other people in other countries
you don't hear some of the true stuff that happens in Iraq
I would disagree. Now, you need to know something about me dude, and that is I actually am a Conservative on a lot of issue & can identify with a lot of things Republican. But when I look at Bush I don’t see a true conservative. Ultimately what is conservatisms? It is supposed to be about having small government, low taxes, balancing the budget, and reducing the debt. Bush is exactly the opposite on all accounts. He had record budget deficits, spent money like a socialists, racked up $5 trillion dollars in debt more than all the Presidents combined, he had the biggest expansion of the government since WWII. Whereas if you look at Clinton he reduced the national debt, had balanced budget, promoted small government, in other words he was more of a conservative that Bush! Who is going to pay for $5 trillion dollars in debt that Bush racked up? It’s going to be me, you and future generations. We are going to pay because of his screw ups! There are a lot of Conservatives who are pissed off at Bush because of his record spending and racking up so much debt. And I don’t even want to get into the Iraq war, a war a vast majority of American disagree with and war that Obama said, “Never should have been authorized”. Aside from the fact that a lot of people got killed, $3 trillion of our money was wasted in a foreign country like Iraq instead of using it here in America. While come you didn’t see this much hate towards other Republican Presidents like the first Bush or Ronald Regan. Maybe because Ronald Regan & the first Bush were pragmatic not Ideologues. Bush and the neo-cons took the country so off course not only in foreign policy wise but in economic policy there was a huge Backlash against the Bush and the Republican. That’s why they lost by such a landslide. Just look at the Senate, Democrats have 58 seats, much more than they need. I didn’t even include the Senate race that is still going on Minnesota where the Republican incumbent is going against comedian Al Franken. When you have a party that is struggling to win against a comedian for seat in the Senate, than you know your party is in the gutter. I sure hope for the sake of the Republican party that they return to the Ronald Regan & the first Bush type of party not just for it’s sake but for the country as well.

And I would also like to add the reason that Obama won by landslide is because A LOT of Republicans got fed up with the Republicans and voted for Obama. There is no way Obama would have won by such landslide if he didn’t have millions of Republicans who voted for him.

I would also like to add that I forgot to say in my other post and that is I actually agree with a lot of John McCain said prior to him running. I just disagree with the manner in which he ran his campaign, I, like a lot of others, lost a great deal of respect as the campaign went on. Having said that, the election is over now & Obama won. I applaud McCain for, what I think, was a very classy concession speech.
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^your best post on this topic
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^your best post on this topic
Agreed.

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Say Hello to your New President: Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States of America and the First African-American President in History!

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President Obama officially makes History! Congratulations President Obama, I wish you good luck and hope you are successful.
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I pray for our president and wish him well. He has a hard job ahead of him. I do have one question. Why does he have to be called an african-american? The day my dad became an american citizen he has called himself an american. A picture of him taking the oath while holding a small american flag hangs in our hallway. People talk about equality and yet they place a separation by saying african-american. I just don't get it.
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Say Hello to your New President: Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States of America and the First African-American President in History!
My president? I didn't know that everyone here was American
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I pray for our president and wish him well. He has a hard job ahead of him. I do have one question. Why does he have to be called an african-american? The day my dad became an american citizen he has called himself an american. A picture of him taking the oath while holding a small american flag hangs in our hallway. People talk about equality and yet they place a separation by saying african-american. I just don't get it.



Me neither. It is totally ridiculous.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:35 PM
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I'm thrilled about the new President. Even as far back as his speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, I felt he had a great image about what America should be and how he would help us to get there. I've supported him ever since. Of course now he has have to prove himself.
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