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When you look at it that way, it's an incredible story really.
'French singer makes it big in Mexico' You couldn't make it up. Another idea for any eBay sellers we have in the forum. Anything i sell, to anywhere in the world, i always include a CD compilation. Blank CD's are really inexpensive and if it even spreads the word to 1 person, i look on it as time well spent. |
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Needless to say they we're so enthusiastic about it, that Alizée's team saw this as well as a lot of publicity that had been made of her during her absence. If you remember when she first came back the second video we saw of her was when she had a gathering with some of her old fans in France and they showed her looking at Mexican magazines towards the end. Like I said in another forum, her Mexican deal was no accident it was all planned. Alizée's team saw the potential, they put it to the test and the result was very favorable. The only small problem I saw was that because Alizée was promoted with all her old performances (obviously this was all the Mexican had at the time), some where expecting to see her the same way. Something we need to keep in mind when we promote her. Quote:
Edgar you have very good points, but to be on the positive side USA has a big percentage of mixed nationalities now a days. I don't know what the percentage is but we could find out if it makes anyone feel better...
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Heh sorry, not trying to be a downer or discourage us from trying. Just saying it's going to be hard. There are artists who take the risk and put themselves out here, like Yelle (a French singer who recently had a US tour), for whom it's paid off... but it doesn't seem Alizée's like that. Quote:
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Well it's true Alizée had no intention of going to Mexico and there was no promotion there at first, but because of YouTube and the internet the Mexican fans found out about her and started getting her played in clubs and on the radio and finally she got popular enough for the media to do a story on her. It was surprising to her and her label, no one expected it, almost seemed like a sort of overnight explosion, but it took a lot of work and support from the Mexican fans. With the sort of attention she had sprung their it would be silly not to give them a show.
It seems a bit harder for the US, like there is something we can't break. We are so big and the fans are very split up. Also like many said we can't just go around forcing the music on people, that don't work its counter-productive, and word of mouth isn't going to be enough to get her to do a tour here. We need her to rise in clubs and hit the radio, and get people interested in her, the only problem is will the majority of people in the US want to listen to her? I know some foreign artist have been popular in the States but not many comparing to other countries where foreign, especially American music, is played quite often. The majority of the US is a bit closed minded to foreign music I think because of the big name artist we already have, not understanding the lyrics is a problem for many people, and the majority of people in the US seem be against the French (although this could be false or changing a bit, I mostly hear dumb jokes). If she is not willing to play clubs and small shows and spend a lot of time working and spending money to grow here (which I doubt she wants to nor would I ask that of her because even that may not work) we have to pick that job up and raise awareness ourselves, not an easy feat, to get to the US I almost feel like she has to shoot off like a rocket with the new album and become a big name again, then maybe the US would be an easier target and we could break her in. I don't mean to sour anyones coffee or say it isn't possible because it very well could be but its going to take a strong dedicated force and lots of work, and I am not really sure where to begin. Quote:
Well I think Yelle can do the clubs and things like that, because her music is like that, electro music is not really too mainstream like pop music, she is used to playing clubs and that kind of environment. I don't know about Alizée though, she has always been known and her music fits the big theatre's and t.v. shows, although her new music has some electro influence, not sure how she would do in the club/dance scene.
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I have been a fan of Alizée for over 5 years now. I have tried to get radio stations to listen to her CD's, etc.
The music business in this country thinks it is the end-all, be-all of all music business, which it is not. However, it is the people in charge of the business that dictate who will be pushed and who will get air time. There is an artist in India who has sold more records then Michael Jackson, but we won't here them here. It is all about the bottom line to these music executives, not artistry, talent, appeal, the "X" Factor, honesty, all of which Alizée has in huge amounts. To these record people, they think she would not make them the money it would be worth to put forth the effort. If Alizée had the appeal and sold the records in Europe that the Beatles used to sell when they first started, they might take a chance with her, but it would take massive amounts of demand by so many people that the record people would be forced to look at her and consider the possibilities. Alizée herself said that she is not interested in coming here due to the way the industry is as a school of sharks, and for that reason, I cannot blame her one bit. Why should she have to put up with the crap other artists do just to make it here?! She does not want the hassles that come with being famous in the states, and I cannot blame her for being smart and estute enough to see that fact. Personally, I think the music in the states, for the most part, sucks out loud. Groups are being thrown against the wall to see what sticks and the rest are thrown by the wayside. I have listened to European pop since finding out about Alizée by a frend of mine from Europe, who made me aware of her long ago. While I play professionally, if I do not need to learn a piece of music from the states, I don't listen to it much at all. I try to get European stations on my work computer to listen too and mostly stations that would play Alizée. Other then that, I listen to Alizée on the forum's video listings. I would just go crazy to be able to hear her in this country, but being in the industry, doing session work, and playing live, I have come to understand how it works here, and it sucks bigtime. If I had the money, I would move to France to live, and become immersed in all things French. The states are fast becoming a second-class nation, and are not that well thought of by the rest of the world. While it isn't the fault of the people, but the fault of the government, it is going to take a lot more then what americans can do to get Alizée famous in this country, although I never stop trying to get people to listen to her. Last edited by C-4; 06-30-2009 at 06:24 AM.. |
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I think the people in here would like Alizée, especially the new La Isla Bonita, I don't know why I think that, but once a friend of mine told me "that's gonna be a hit". Canada also has a big percentage of french-speaking people, maybe they would like something new for them, but in their own language. Last time I was at Montreal I asked to almost everyone I could if they knew Alizée, but nobody did . |
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didn't Alizee state in an interview or something.. maybe i read it in a thread here, but it was basically saying that Alizee was hesistant about the US because working in the US music industry would be much much more time consuming, and would require her to be away from Paris and her family?
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Here is my .262 peso's (yes that equals 2 cents)
In reading this thread, something is bothering me about the underlying assumption. Here are a couple of examples: I hate to say this, but what if Alizee is just fine with her level of stardom. Maybe she has found the perfect balance in life. And our efforts, as noble as they are, would be in vein and contrary to her wishes. Obviously no really knows what's rattling around her head. None of us are sitting down at the dinner table with her and chatting it up. But I think the question should be begged, Would any grassroots efforts to promote Alizee in the US be an exercise in futility? And Ponder this, maybe what draws us all to her is her relative obscurity. What if she did saturate the American market? Would you not be afraid it may alter the reasons we all love her so much? I believe a couple of recent posts have touched on her aversion. Don't get me wrong, if she were to play a venue in my area, I would be there in the 1st row with "Ali" written on my shirt and "zee" on my wifes. But I would also still be perfectly at peace if she stayed the relatively obscure French singer she is today. Blessed to have been exposed to such an extraordinary individual That's all I have to say about that. -B
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Concerts may be a different story and maybe more under her control. But either way, when you sign with someone, there are certain expectations and a surrendering of some control. Record companies exist to make money and I doubt if they are interested in working with artists that want to put limits on that. Having said that, I of course have no idea what her particular contract looks like. If I had to guess, Alizée might be happy with limited or moderate success in the USA, but I don't think she wants to be the next craze sweeping the nation.
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