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View Poll Results: Do you like or dislike Une Enfant Du Siecle? | |||
Like | 49 | 79.03% | |
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I hope I get to hear some of the wonderful music you make in the future... that has been inspired by your listening experiences.
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It's true of any time it's about the material, not about what type of album it is.
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I totally disagree with this. I think the past two albums just haven't been that good and her image during the Psych era didn't help things out. Her image during the UEDS era looked like it was going to be a lot better, but the album never got out of the starting blocks for her to find out. In essence what you are saying here is millions of people in France are ignorant. You're saying that these people have been imprinted by the Lolita and now they can't recognize a good song when they hear one. Last edited by Scruffydog777; 03-26-2011 at 11:04 AM.. |
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Now, you want to say that it didn't sell well, that it wasn't a very popular album, that it wasn't a commercial success -- that's objective and provable (and true). But to say this means it wasn't good is false reasoning. Quote:
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It doesn't matter how many statistics you can pull about album sales or the number of people who like it versus the number who don't, it won't turn your opinion into a fact. You can dislike Psychédélices and Une enfant du siècle all day long, but when you try to tell people who like them that they aren't good, you're just being ignorant. Looking at popular music, it should be glaringly obvious that how well something sells can not be an accurate measure of how good it is (if for no other reason than because "good" is subjective). So you can lay your "UEDS didn't sell well because it isn't good" theory to rest, because it's flawed on every level. <hr> Then why did Une enfant du siècle sell so poorly? a) poor marketing; not enough people knew about the album b) Alizée's past image; the French public think she is a joke / don't want to like her / are not willing to give her new music a chance c) niche appeal; the music appeals to a group too small to sell huge numbers d) any combination of the above Whatever the reason, it wasn't because the album isn't good.
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Bottom line is except for the limited amount of people in these forums, I haven't heard any one of significance say that this a good album in any kind of way. EDIT: Quote:
and didn't Deepwaters belittle the people of France by "implying" they might be ignorant. Oh but in these cases, it's okay becuase it's in support of what you believe. Another opinion. Could be wrong. Could be right, but like I said, all it is, is an opinion. Last edited by Scruffydog777; 03-26-2011 at 11:43 AM.. |
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I'm not talking on behalf of severianb or Deepwaters. I'm talking about you constantly saying Alizée's past two albums "aren't good" as if it's an objective truth—and trying to prove it based on sales and popularity. It's not—and you can't. Whether or not the music is good is solely a matter of taste. <hr> Quote:
"Most people did not find it to be good" would be an acceptable reason (which I covered under "niche appeal.") Still, "most people" do not get to dictate their taste as objective truth. <br>
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I wish I could point out the articles I've read, but I can't because I don't remember where I saw them. But regardless, UEDS has received some good critical reviews as far as its musical and artistic qualities are concerned.
What “sells” has nothing to do with good and bad. A perfect example of this is Rebecca Black’s recent success with “Friday”. Personally, I think one would have a difficult time arguing that “Friday” has a high degree of artistic and musical quality, but it definitely is selling. I would be disappointed if Alizée did an album of "Friday" type songs just to sell. Think about your own career, whatever it may be. You gain a lot of specialized knowledge. You also become aware that the general public knows actually very little about what you do and what constitutes quality work on your part. Music is no different. The general public actually knows very little about music, but that doesn't mean they are ignorant. However they know what they like and what they don't like, and that's what determines where they will spend their money. We shouldn't confuse quality with quantity.
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