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From all I’ve read, Alizée was popular 20 years ago when Moi Lolita came out, no more recently than that. I was a bit discouraged to learn this but it’s what I think. Is she not a one hit wonder? I still like her dance videos and she’s obviously so beautiful, I would just say her popularity in France didn’t last more than about 3 years at most. Quote:
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In essence, the post-2003 Alizee is a less interesting person than the Alizee of 2000-2003. The post-2003 Alizee is less interesting even to us. (Look at the tribute videos, and you'll see a very heavy focus on the 2000-2003 Alizee. Look at the photos and discussion on the AA forum, and you'll see a heavy focus on the 2000-2003 Alizee. Look at the photos that Alizee signed in front of Scruffy in 2019, and all but one of them was the 2000-2003 Alizee. Etc.) The people who are joining the Facebook group are joining because they are interested in the 2000-2003 Alizee. They're not particularly interested in the 2021 Alizee. |
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Yes, thank you Ben.Daly!
The name rang a bell once I read it. My memory is not the same as it used to be. Edit: Quote:
A female artist named Louane is currently experiencing the same track as Alizee did. A big first album (2x Diamond with 1.8 million copies sold in France), followed by a still big but not as much second album (3x Platinum, selling 400K in France), then a Gold third album in 2020 (only 50K sold in France). Then there are other factors in Alizee losing favor among the French after her second album: she grew up, leaving her Lolita image behind; the split with Mylene, which was considered traitorous to many; her getting married, which took her "off the market" and crushing many a young man's dreams; her hiatus and lack of contact with her fans ("out of sight, out of mind" applies here). Even so, there still was a sizable remnant of French fans that have stayed true to Alizee throughout the years. Since twenty years have passed and Alizee has remained visible, I believe then trend will continue to go in her favor. Edit: Then you have the people like me. Interested in the 2000 Alizee, the 2021 Alizee and every year in between. Last edited by CleverCowboy; 11-08-2021 at 07:33 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doubleposts |
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Then I was confused about popularity. It is not a bad thing, I am just trying to be realistic. With or without quotas, I think most artists including English ones have careers that last 5 years or so, those that last longer are the exception. Even iconic Mylène with the people who do like her songs is no longer as mainstream.
Yes I know Louane, I listen almost exclusively to French music (way superior music). More popular these days is to listen to rappers like JuL, Damso, OrelSan, Nekfeu, MHD, maybe Niska. |
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There will always be a market for music that is pre-mainstream. A lot of people don't like rap. At least in the US, some of the old rock bands from the 70's and 80's figured it out and came out of retirement and tour to sing their old songs. Two or three tour together and sell out shows. Alizee still might become a national icon of France but only time will tell. Her songs, even though no longer mainstream, might become timeless like these other artists are discovering. |
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Since you're very familiar with French music, how do you explain Mylene's success and popularity? It seems that no other female singer in France is nearly as successful as Mylene. Is there a simple explanation for this? How does Mylene do it? Why are other French singers unable to come anywhere close to the success that Mylene has achieved?
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Ahah there’s loads to discover. There are so many genres and hundreds of talented artists. At first it doesn’t sound the same but then you spend a few days listening only to French music and you soon come to enjoy it. Though yes Mylène’s first number one hit was in 1988 and still today people follow her like a cult - to stay like that is quite unique. And oh yes I am one of those who doesn’t like rap that much. Last edited by Elise; 11-12-2021 at 07:55 AM.. |
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The "Lili Bug" is a real phenomenon and is unique to her. |
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I pretty much "disagree" on this, I think Alizée is "at the top of her career", thanks to Youtube!
I don’t think anyone other than maybe at most some Asian celebrity [because there are a lot of people] can do the same... Well over a billion views and listenings, although Alizée's career "in principle and in practice" lasted only about four years and already 20 years ago. Almost all of the big popular names have decades-long careers and and a great marketing machinery or they have been forgotten... Sure... Alizée herself doesn't get much benefit from her current popularity, but I think that popularity is even historically unique. And it would be much bigger if everyone even knew her! After all, many of us here have only known her for a moment, and more than half the world has still not even heard of her!
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