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21 pages of Alizee GIFs here

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/for...e-Gifs:2699490

(Just found this, thought I'd share it.)
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21 pages of Alizee GIFs here

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/for...e-Gifs:2699490

(Just found this, thought I'd share it.)
Great find. Thanks!

Using one the GIFs, I wonder where this ranks among the best moments of her life?

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21 pages of Alizee GIFs here

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/for...e-Gifs:2699490

(Just found this, thought I'd share it.)
great find! thanks Mr Coucou



I love how she plays with her eyebrows
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:22 PM
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One thing for sure, Alizee is not boring.





This one... holy smokes..


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Great find. Thanks!

Using one the GIFs, I wonder where this ranks among the best moments of her life?


Because Alizee was the most popular contestant on the show, I wondered if the producers saw to it that she wasn't eliminated in any of the competitions, and I wondered if the fix was in for her to win the final championship. All those thoughts evaporated when I saw her reaction at winning. She obviously had no idea whether she would win or not and was anxious about the outcome. If there was a fix, she wasn't part of it.
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Because Alizee was the most popular contestant on the show, I wondered if the producers saw to it that she wasn't eliminated in any of the competitions, and I wondered if the fix was in for her to win the final championship. All those thoughts evaporated when I saw her reaction at winning. She obviously had no idea whether she would win or not and was anxious about the outcome. If there was a fix, she wasn't part of it.
I think she was far from the most popular contestant. The most famous perhaps. But the other contestants all have successful careers in the public eye. One was a comedian, two models, Brahim was Madonna's boyfriend at the time, Laetitia Milot is an actress, and a few of them were singers (most notably Tal, Keen'V). Those last three all had massive followings that voted them far into the competition, especially Keen'V who was utterly useless as a dancer.

Alizée on the other hand was an underdog until she set foot on the dance floor. She had to earn every vote she got, week after week. There were some cases in which the, let's call them passionate, angry fans of an eliminated contestant tried to band together to vote against her. Some had similiar suspicions as you, that the producers had faked the love story with Greg to fix her up as the winner in the end for ratings. She hasn't been a popular or even well liked figure in France in many many years. Even back in the MF/LB days, some people judged her negatively for the Lolita image. There was a tv performance of JPVA where just as the song started playing, you can hear an audience member shout some obscene language at her. For that reason it was heartwarming to see some people get behind her over the course of the season. And of course disappointing when the Blonde tour that followed was cancelled for low ticket sales.
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I think she was far from the most popular contestant. The most famous perhaps. But the other contestants all have successful careers in the public eye. One was a comedian, two models, Brahim was Madonna's boyfriend at the time, Laetitia Milot is an actress, and a few of them were singers (most notably Tal, Keen'V). Those last three all had massive followings that voted them far into the competition, especially Keen'V who was utterly useless as a dancer.

Alizée on the other hand was an underdog until she set foot on the dance floor. She had to earn every vote she got, week after week. There were some cases in which the, let's call them passionate, angry fans of an eliminated contestant tried to band together to vote against her. Some had similiar suspicions as you, that the producers had faked the love story with Greg to fix her up as the winner in the end for ratings. She hasn't been a popular or even well liked figure in France in many many years. Even back in the MF/LB days, some people judged her negatively for the Lolita image. There was a tv performance of JPVA where just as the song started playing, you can hear an audience member shout some obscene language at her. For that reason it was heartwarming to see some people get behind her over the course of the season. And of course disappointing when the Blonde tour that followed was cancelled for low ticket sales.


I remember the debate as to whether her affair with Greg was a publicity stunt or not, but the rest of what you posted I had no knowledge. Thanks for the information.
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I think she was far from the most popular contestant. The most famous perhaps. But the other contestants all have successful careers in the public eye. One was a comedian, two models, Brahim was Madonna's boyfriend at the time, Laetitia Milot is an actress, and a few of them were singers (most notably Tal, Keen'V). Those last three all had massive followings that voted them far into the competition, especially Keen'V who was utterly useless as a dancer.

Alizée on the other hand was an underdog until she set foot on the dance floor. She had to earn every vote she got, week after week. There were some cases in which the, let's call them passionate, angry fans of an eliminated contestant tried to band together to vote against her. Some had similiar suspicions as you, that the producers had faked the love story with Greg to fix her up as the winner in the end for ratings. She hasn't been a popular or even well liked figure in France in many many years. Even back in the MF/LB days, some people judged her negatively for the Lolita image. There was a tv performance of JPVA where just as the song started playing, you can hear an audience member shout some obscene language at her. For that reason it was heartwarming to see some people get behind her over the course of the season. And of course disappointing when the Blonde tour that followed was cancelled for low ticket sales.
Totally agree with you, some like Tal and Keen'v have a lot of fans in France (a lot of young and teenager) so they thought maybe he would go far in the competition, but then there is the emotion that Alizée gave on the dance floor. I think it played a lot. If we look at the announcement of each result, we can see it being stress so for me it's sure that it was expected before it wins.
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Alizée on the other hand was an underdog until she set foot on the dance floor. She had to earn every vote she got, week after week. There were some cases in which the, let's call them passionate, angry fans of an eliminated contestant tried to band together to vote against her. Some had similiar suspicions as you, that the producers had faked the love story with Greg to fix her up as the winner in the end for ratings. She hasn't been a popular or even well liked figure in France in many many years. Even back in the MF/LB days, some people judged her negatively for the Lolita image. There was a tv performance of JPVA where just as the song started playing, you can hear an audience member shout some obscene language at her. For that reason it was heartwarming to see some people get behind her over the course of the season. And of course disappointing when the Blonde tour that followed was cancelled for low ticket sales.


The hostility directed against Alizee has taken me by surprise. I can understand the enthusiasm of fans, but not the ugliness toward a competitor. I remember one of the dancers on DALS, I don't recall her name, who complained bitterly that Alizee had only to smile and management would give her whatever she wanted. At the time I thought this woman's animus was an exceptional case.

I was also surprised that after Alizee's hiatus of two years to have a baby, when a journalist stopped random people on the streets of Paris to query them about Alizee's return, many didn't remember her. One woman, who did, spoke of Alizee as some long past and nearly forgotten entertainer.

I have shown Alizee's videos to friends in Texas and been surprised that they didn't see anything exceptional. When I first discovered her on the Internet, I was totally blown away after watching a single four-minute video. Now it surprises me she doesn't impact everyone the same way.

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She hasn't been a popular or even well liked figure in France in many many years. Even back in the MF/LB days, some people judged her negatively for the Lolita image. There was a tv performance of JPVA where just as the song started playing, you can hear an audience member shout some obscene language at her.
I really cannot think of an incident in Alizee's early career that would be the direct cause of her being disliked by a significant number of people. She played a Lolita image, but since when is that offensive to the French? Did they all of a sudden find religion? She was not the first Lolita in France and was very tame compared to Mylene's Lolita years, who's first music video had her fully nude and engaged in soft core porn.

Maybe Alizee was TOO nice. She was soft-spoken, respectful and polite. This gives the haters an easy target. I'm sure there was a good amount of jealousy involved being that this nobody from the "land down under" (Corsica) is propelled to fame. She was the French answer to America's Britney Spears, and it just confounds me how the French do not support their own.

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I was also surprised that after Alizee's hiatus of two years to have a baby, when a journalist stopped random people on the streets of Paris to query them about Alizee's return, many didn't remember her. One woman, who did, spoke of Alizee as some long past and nearly forgotten entertainer.
This was a huge career mistake that I have been vocal about before. It was a terrible miscalculation. "Out of sight, out of mind" and "What have you done for me lately?" are two cliches that come to mind.


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I have shown Alizee's videos to friends in Texas and been surprised that they didn't see anything exceptional. When I first discovered her on the Internet, I was totally blown away after watching a single four-minute video. Now it surprises me she doesn't impact everyone the same way.
We saw the same video first and I was in the same boat as you. Getting some confirmation from friends would help validate my judgment, but I have pretty much concluded my attraction to Alizee has no reasonable explanation, and I'm good with that. In all the reactions in comments that I have read on her videos, they are either unmoved (or insulting) or blown away. There is some in-between but most tend to be at the extremes.

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