Women and Alizée

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Bamagirl

I, personally, see no reason why a women should feel threatened by men noticing and appreciating attractive qualities--of any type--in another woman. But, unfortunately, that does seem to often be the case. For me, admiring another woman--be it her beauty, her fashion sense, her intelligence, her character, her talent, or any other quality about her--is not materially different from admiring anything that is worthy--art, music, beauty in nature, etc. I admire certain people (both men and women) for a wide variety of reasons. And I also admire works of art, literature, engineering, etc.

Personally I don't know how a woman would react to this type of feelings towards another woman (even if she is famous and you have never met her). For my little experience, I've seen that many women (I mean girlfriend, wives..) tend to be jealous. Jealousy is not always a bad feeling, it's a particular demonstration of love, but it must be contextualized. And so we are again talking about what we should say to a partner about Alizée... That girlfriend /wife might feel as playing second fiddle (is that the way you say it?), because we're talking about something more than simply admiring a famous person. And obviously that's not a good thing for her.

To regard to female friends/relatives, I think it's just a question of being afraid of not being understood or looking weird. And as I was saying this might be true regardless of your speaker. At least it is so for me. For example I'm very sorry that Scruffydog's sister doesn't understand his feelings, but I'm not even ready to tell the thing to my brother.

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

The fact is that Alizée is much more than just a singer/performer to me.

Soulmate .

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

Soulmate .

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[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

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Here's the definition of "soulmate" from wiktionary---

Someone, especially a romantic partner, with whom one is exceptionally or uniquely compatible or has a special, almost spiritual connection.

It applies to you, doesn't it? (I think it applies to a lot of us on the forum.)

Note: Alizee isn't anyone's actual soulmate, of course. I think "virtual soulmate" would be a more precise term.

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

It applies to you, doesn't it? (I think it applies to a lot of us on the forum.)

Well, yes, so much!

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

Note: Alizee isn't anyone's actual soulmate, of course. I think "virtual soulmate" would be a more precise term.

Yes, that's why this is a really complex situation: I have never met her but she completely changed my life. It's like being under a spell.

[CleverCowboy]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Yes, that's why this is a really complex situation: I have never met her but she completely changed my life. It's like being under a spell.

Do we see things in Alizee that reflects us? We know this connection that many of us feel to her goes beyond the physical.

[Silencio]

Two links on the topic, to pages where women discuss Alizée. The pages are in Russian, you can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.

The first link is to a question on Q&A site in which a girl complains that her boyfriend always watches Alizée, in particular when she sleeps, and asks what to do with it. The answers came mostly from women.

https://otvet.mail.ru/question/3425760

The second link leads to a quite large thread on a women's site. One woman came across J'en Ai Marre TV performance on YouTube, read men's comments, was surprised by them and started a discussion that attracted great interest among other women (93 answers in 4 days).

http://www.woman.ru/relations/men/thread/4788635/

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Silencio

The second link leads to a quite large thread on a women's site. One woman came across J'en Ai Marre TV performance on YouTube, read men's comments, was surprised by them and started a discussion that attracted great interest among other women (93 answers in 4 days).

http://www.woman.ru/relations/men/thread/4788635/

Some of them are a little bit frustrated and envious

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Silencio

Two links on the topic, to pages where women discuss Alizée. The pages are in Russian, you can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.

Interesting, thanks!

Originally Posted by Silencio

The second link leads to a quite large thread on a women's site. One woman came across J'en Ai Marre TV performance on YouTube, read men's comments, was surprised by them and started a discussion that attracted great interest among other women (93 answers in 4 days).

The Russian women don't seem to get it.

The appeal of JEAM is a couple of things. The women need to watch JEAM in slow motion (1/2 speed), and look at the precision of Alizee's movements. Alizee moves like an angel--- this is part of the reason that men are mesmerized by Alizee.

Then there is Alizee's face--- which is average-looking and extremely beautiful at the same time--- which makes no sense. Also mesmerizing.

(Personally, I'm more mesmerized by Alizee's face than by her dancing.)

Edit:

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Some of them are a little bit frustrated and envious

Now we know where all the "dislikes" come from on Alizee's videos!

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

Then there is Alizee's face--- which is average-looking and extremely beautiful at the same time--- which makes no sense. Also mesmerizing.

Once I found a quote by Seneca (Roman philosopher and dramatist) and, even though I usually don't agree a lot with his philosophy, I find it quite interesting:

"A woman is not beautiful when her ankle or arm wins compliments, but when her total appearance diverts admiration from the individual parts of her body."

This may be the meaning of your observation about Alizée's face, according to which it is average-looking and extremely beautiful at the same time.
I think that the average-looking thing is due to the harmony of her face: there is nothing out of place, everything is perfect and absolutely balanced.
But then, after you wake up from her hypnotic power, you start to focus on the little things: her nose, her eyes, her smile and so on. So every little part of her face becomes a little masterpiece and you can't help but feeling "mesmerised".

I think this "theory" applies to her whole body. She is beautiful from every point of view