How Degrading... - Page 2

Joey_adore_Jung · #11 10-22-2007, 03:45 PM

well in case it wasn't mentioned the JPVA suits were rather eye catching as well so again she obviously didn't mind, if you think about it.

atra201 · #12 10-22-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanFan

Get a grip... every normal guy would want to nail Alizee regardless what she wore. The truth is that there are some girls out there that would be interested too.
In any case, Alizee would have some say in it. She never struck me as the type who would EVER sleep around.
It doesn't matter what she wears. Alizee could dress up in a space suit and still be smokin' hot!

i don't think you understood me
i was speaking to those who don't agree to what you just said and i quote from it this sentence "Alizee could dress up in a space suit and still be smokin' hot!"
i myself think she's so beautiful and just had a dream about last night to prove it and i didn't say i didn't wanna nail her myself. try to understand me first

CFHollister · #13 10-22-2007, 04:10 PM

I was writitng a long response to this but a wrong click deleted it, oh well

. I guess you'll just get the short version now.

Anyways... No, I don't think they were degrading. I think Alizée herself my have best weighed in her opionion when she said (I've used this quote before):
"In any case, being sexy includes being natural. Anything can be sexy, except vulgarity." -Alizée
And I can see nothing vulgar in any of Alizée's performance regardless of of how immature, vulgar, and degrading assholes may choose to respond to them.

Similarly, (not saying she ever would or should) if Alizée were ever to pose nude for photographs, those wouldn't be degrading either. Afterall, how can something so natural, beautiful, and pure be degrading? Alizée's nature includes being natural, beautiful, sensual, and even sexual. To deny or ignore those qualities that she posesses does her as great a disservice as focussing all one's attention on them. Just because something can be degraded by vulgar and callous individuals, doesn't mean that it is degrading.

It is possible Alizée may have become uncomfortable and a change was made... perhaps there were too many assholes in her audience (I kinda doubt that), maybe she decided that those aspects of her nature were more meant for her future husband Jérémy with whom she may have getting closer to, or maybe she just decided that she didn't want to share that aspect of herself so freely with the public because, well, that's her perogative... or all of those possibilities could be wrong. They could have just decided to change costumes.

Solaris · #14 10-22-2007, 04:13 PM

Well put CFH, and sorry bout your long explanation.

Deepwaters · #15 10-22-2007, 04:18 PM

Change costumes?

In the JEAM and IFU videos on this site, she wore pants at Eurobest on 3/25, and in Germany on 7/12. She wore the other outfit on 3/1, 3/8, 3/14, and 4/2, and for the IFU performance on 7/4. There was no change in costume, it was just a variation.

atra201 · #16 10-22-2007, 04:18 PM

i just want to that i don't just want to "nail Alizee " just to stop any complaints about my previous comment
i totally agree with CFHollister
but about posing nude i think one's body is his or hers only and should not be shared except for that person and NOT the public

AmericanFan · #17 10-22-2007, 04:21 PM

I believe CF said it best... In any case, being sexy includes being natural. Anything can be sexy, except vulgarity."

Deepwaters · #18 10-22-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by atra201

but about posing nude i think one's body is his or hers only and should not be shared except for that person and NOT the public

Well, Alizée has never shown any inclination to pose nude, and I don't expect that, but just the same I disagree. There's nothing wrong with a naked body unless it's presented in a furtive way that suggests there IS something wrong with it. If she did want to do that, I'm sure it would be done in a very tasteful way and would not be vulgar.

CFHollister · #19 10-22-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanFan

I believe CF said it best... In any case, being sexy includes being natural. Anything can be sexy, except vulgarity."

Perhaps I didn't make myself completely clear, that is what Alizée has said.

fsquared · #20 10-22-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deepwaters

Change costumes?

In the JEAM and IFU videos on this site, she wore pants at Eurobest on 3/25, and in Germany on 7/12. She wore the other outfit on 3/1, 3/8, 3/14, and 4/2, and for the IFU performance on 7/4. There was no change in costume, it was just a variation.

I forget now where, but I think in one of her interviews she actually discussed why she wore pants in some (e.g. Eurobest). Something about having to sing something else too and/or to be on stage introducing or doing something with some other performers.