A video with Alizée and Myléne?

[babyblue558]

Originally Posted by Corsaire

Not to get unnecessarily picky, but as I have mentioned the award is for “francophone” (French-speaking) rather than “French” (which would refer to the nationality). For example, artists from Québec who sing in French (like Céline Dion and Garou) have won some of those francophone NRJ Awards.

No worries, you're right. What I was getting at was "French" artists as in the language but "French-speaking" is a better translation. I'm nowhere near fluent and sometimes the most difficult thing is finding an English equivalent of a French word, if you know what I mean. As in - you know what the French word means as such, but can't find a way of expressing it in English. For "francophone", "French-speaking" is more accurate than just "French". In fact, Mylène herself is from Quebec.

[Corsaire]

Originally Posted by babyblue558

No worries, you're right. What I was getting at was "French" artists as in the language but "French-speaking" is a better translation. I'm nowhere near fluent and sometimes the most difficult thing is finding an English equivalent of a French word, if you know what I mean. As in - you know what the French word means as such, but can't find a way of expressing it in English. For "francophone", "French-speaking" is more accurate than just "French". In fact, Mylène herself is from Quebec.

Although “francophone” does exist in English, it is rarely used, I find. I therefore tend to translate it to “French-speaking”.

Oh yes, knowing the meaning of the word in French and not finding the exact equivalent in English, or vice-versa, happens to me all the time. Sometimes, there is just no true equivalent. What is worse for me are words that are the same in English and French, but don’t quite mean the same thing. Arrrrrrgggghhh! Or sound replacement when I write in English (to = too, then = than...). I have to concentrate like crazy, end even than...

For a decade or so, but a long time after MF had left Québec, I actually lived a few streets away from where she was born. She is from Québec, but she got French nationality through her parents, if I remember well.

[babyblue558]

Originally Posted by Corsaire

Although “francophone” does exist in English, it is rarely used, I find. I therefore tend to translate it to “French-speaking”.

Oh yes, knowing the meaning of the word in French and not finding the exact equivalent in English, or vice-versa, happens to me all the time. Sometimes, there is just no true equivalent. What is worse for me are words that are the same in English and French, but don’t quite mean the same thing. Arrrrrrgggghhh!

Exactly!! For example I still couldn't tell you an exact translation for the French expression "une pièce phare" even though in my head I know what it means. So frustrating sometimes!

Originally Posted by Corsaire

Or sound replacement when I write in English (to = too, then = than...). I have to concentrate like crazy, end even than...

I have the same problem in French, especially when differentiating between verb endings... sort of like how "j'ai" and "j'aie" sound pretty identical when said aloud but are used in very different circumstances.

Originally Posted by Corsaire

For a decade or so, but a long time after MF had left Québec, I actually lived a few streets away from where she was born. She is from Québec, but she got French nationality through her parents, if I remember well.

Yes, I think Mylène and her parents moved to France when she was 8 years old.

[DrSmith]

Originally Posted by Corsaire

For a decade or so, but a long time after MF had left Québec, I actually lived a few streets away from where she was born. She is from Québec, but she got French nationality through her parents, if I remember well.

Right. Her parents were both originally from France.

[Corsaire]

Originally Posted by babyblue558

Exactly!! For example I still couldn't tell you an exact translation for the French expression "une pièce phare" even though in my head I know what it means. So frustrating sometimes!

That is a good one! If it can appease your frustration , although not quite perfect, I found this:
"une pièce phare: a style-defining item / an item to build around / a must have trendy item"

[babyblue558]

Originally Posted by Corsaire

That is a good one! If it can appease your frustration , although not quite perfect, I found this:
"une pièce phare: a style-defining item / an item to build around / a must have trendy item"

Hahaha yeah in order to get the meaning across in English you have to use an awkward expression with lots of words just like those. As far as I know there's no succinct equivalent in English.

[Corsaire]

Originally Posted by babyblue558

Hahaha yeah in order to get the meaning across in English you have to use an awkward expression with lots of words just like those. As far as I know there's no succinct equivalent in English.

Yes, I know...
Ok, here is my own attempt then: delineative, guiding or beacon piece. The last one being my favorite. Not really sure how it sounds to a native Anglophone though: “The hat is really the beacon piece of his style”... Hmm...

[Bigdan]

A video with Alizee and Mylène....

[babyblue558]

Originally Posted by Bigdan

A video with Alizee and Mylène....

Ooh leggings vs latex