solution to problem? advice needed - Page 3

mavsluver41 · #21 01-12-2009, 07:31 PM

Someone who has a digg account should submit this, it's front page material fo' sure

. It wouldn't hurt to throw the fact out there that this is from an Alizée forum (for a bit of sneaky advertising

).

Edcognito · #22 01-12-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Toc De Mac

That's pretty funny.

How can a country which was forcefully created from stolen land hope to live in peace?

Isreal was created, in exactly the same manner as Lebannon, Syria, Iraq, Transjordan and Saudi Arabia...

(also, to be quite honest, the same manner as the majority of the countries in the world have been founded, from war...)

By fiat. vOv

The League of Nations and the Allied powers at the end of WWI, 1948 partition (into a TWO nation state), invasion by Arab Nations and the forcing of refugees into refugee camps, instead of resettlement, because the Arab Governments told all the palastinians that the Isrealis wouldn't be around that long...

TBQH - IMHO- there will not be peace in the Middle East until one group or the other wipes its enemy completly off the map.

Ed

Toc De Mac · #23 01-12-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Future Raptor Ace

The jewish people settled in Israel after leaving Egypt and then were later conquered by Muslims and kicked out from the land that they settled. Israel is just getting back lost land from a long time ago.

Ok, cool.

Since the Native Americans were conquered and expelled from their homelands, particularly by the Americans, I guess that they should petition for the return of the entire North American continent.

Makes sense, right?

I think that the first sentence of this Wikipedia article provides some perspective (perhaps inadvertently):

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The State of Israel (Hebrew: מדינת ישראל‎, Medinat Yisrael) was established in 1948 after nearly two thousand years of Jewish dispersal, and 55 years of Zionist agitation.

Edcognito · #24 01-12-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toc De Mac

Ok, cool.

Since the Native Americans were conquered and expelled from their homelands, particularly by the Americans, I guess that they should petition for the return of the entire North American continent.

Makes sense, right?

I think that the first sentence of this Wikipedia article provides some perspective (perhaps inadvertently):

Nope, it does not make sense.

Jews had been agitating for a homeland, the League of Nations and the United Nations gave them that... AND a national homeland for the Palestinians...

The Arab League and the (2 yr. old) Arab Nations of Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan and Iraq (along with the MUCH older Egypt) - invaded in 1948, and lost.

And lost the Palestinian Homeland . . . Of which there had NEVER been one before, since it all belonged to the Ottomans....

So you see, Israel didn't steal that which never was...

Ed

Future Raptor Ace · #25 01-12-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Edcognito

Nope, it does not make sense.

Jews had been agitating for a homeland, the League of Nations and the United Nations gave them that... AND a national homeland for the Palestinians...

The Arab League and the (2 yr. old) Arab Nations of Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan and Iraq (along with the MUCH older Egypt) - invaded in 1948, and lost.

And lost the Palestinian Homeland . . . Of which there had NEVER been one before, since it all belonged to the Ottomans....

So you see, Israel didn't steal that which never was...

Ed

Yup
The sad and honest truth is its antisemitism thats causing this. The world hates the Jew, which doesnt make sense since Christianity and Islam are a modified version of Judaism.
We live in a very prejudice and racist society.
Also about the Native American thing, yes it was wrong and can never be excused. The American government however does acknowledge that it was wrong and gives Native Americans tax free land with pretty much no laws, scholarships, and other perks as well as having all the benefits of being an American citizen. The many Native Americans I know, as well as the Native American owners to the huge casino (gambling is illegal in New York, but not on Native American land) near by seem pretty happy.