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03-23-2021, 07:39 AM
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^Thanks! It might be interesting to explore the possibilities a little, unless it causes too much work.
Fortunately, however, this AA exists, even if that other one doesn’t come on the lines, the Russians ’own problem, unless they speak English. LOL. By the way, do you remember what platform it was on; phpbb, vbullet, etc. I think upgrading from the old version to the new one can also be a problem or just harder when you want to restore the old data. I have phpbb forums myself, but technical support and maintenance elsewhere. At least there are problems transferring them if the files are large and quite a few can do it. Sure, it could also be kept only as an archive and in the old version, but security might suffer, etc. Edit: Edit. I already did more research.   I found... "To purchase a domain and / or forum, email: riccardo83@gmail.com" Did you just contact him, Scruffy? Looks like Riccardo wants to earn with it, and of course I can’t blame him for that. But on the other hand, it would be great if he himself or we other fans could publish it online in some other way and even in read-only format, unless there is no other option (i.e. only in the archive). I also search a picture of the history, and it was also Vbulletin.  [Btw, Note Scruffy that you're "online" in that picture.  ] In addition, a person named Vibhash Chandra, apparently an AA member, had asked Riccardo to agree to merge AF and AA, apparently in VBulletin it’s easier. I personally don't know this platform at all...?
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03-23-2021, 09:26 PM
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I contacted him via FB and he went under the name of Riccardo Ulpts. Here is how that went,
"You sent December 31, 2018 Hey Riccardo. I hope you're having a happy birthday. I wanted to ask if you still have the server or the old files for AF. It be nice to have access to the history of the Alizee Forum. 1/3/19, 7:32 AM Riccardo sent January 3, 2019 im sorry, i might have but not sure Riccardo sent January 3, 2019 look into the future not past ��".
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03-24-2021, 11:44 AM
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Hmmm... A little weird answer from Riccardo.  Theoretically... I think if someone still tries, Riccardo would like a direct offer or something like that? The problem is knowing from the start what is a reasonable offer for such a product. 
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03-25-2021, 12:35 PM
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I have my 2 cents to put in on this topic.
From the screen shot of the forum, the vBulletin version is 4.2.2. We are running vBulletin version 3.8.4. They are one major version apart, which can be significant. vBulletin uses a MySQL database to store data. It's a relational database, so similar data can be stored in its own entity (tables). I don't know the architecture of the vBulletin database, but a simplified one might have all the posts populating one table, thread information in another, forum information in another, member info in another, etc. There are established relationships between the tables so that the vBulletin software can retrieve the data and organize it and present it on a browser. Even if we were to get only the database for AFI, the chances are very slim we could do anything with it, such as merge the history into AAm. The database structures most likely changed with the version upgrade. We would have to migrate all the user information and their security settings. Given enough time, it could be done, but the level of effort would be very high. The only viable option in my opinion is to buy the whole site from the latest backup. We would have to host it somewhere and rebrand it or leave it as AFI. Who knows if the owner still has a backup, but I have a feeling he did not just delete it permanently.
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03-25-2021, 05:24 PM
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Good comments from both!
After reading old texts which I found ... I felt like Riccardo was somehow “angry” or offended that in 2017 No one at the time immediately knew yet to ask about the subject when he apparently closed his page? Scruffy apparently asked then 2018/2019, like some others? That’s why it just came to mind... So is that the reason maybe why he answers related queries so vaguely, etc.? It seems strange that he would have destroyed it - unless it is accidentally destroyed in some way.Of course, someone unknown may already have been able to buy it from him, but that’s pretty unlikely.
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03-26-2021, 02:59 PM
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I would ask Riccardo again but without any reference to "buying" it. Ask if he would give it to us. Maybe he would be willing to upload a backup to a google drive and be done with it. My reasoning is this. If we buy it, there would be some expectation that he should support us as we attempt to resurrect the site as a whole or just the data. Maybe he recognizes this and does not want to be on the hook for providing any support. Also, what happens if we raise some funds here and send it off to him, and we get unusable garbage in return? There could be missing files, corrupted data, etc. Then we have angry people who put up the money. However, if he gives it to us, it would be a no strings attached arrangement, and who knows, he might go for this option.
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03-26-2021, 07:16 PM
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03-26-2021, 09:14 PM
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Hmm. The quote feature seems to be malfunctioning, but to quote AlizéeSuperFanFIN:
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For you and for anyone else, now and a hundred years from now, as clearly as I can: there is no replacing AAm. This effort was not engaged in trying to replace AAm. Only AAm is AAm. We should do everything we can to preserve this resource. As you noted, anyone who Googles Alizée can find AAm. Unfortunately not very many join us. But that's ok. Just as important, though people didn't really pay it any attention: This idea was to give AAm members, and those who do not wish to join AAm, a place to come together under one "roof" so to speak. It required a significant amount of planning, communication with other communities, but all that went out the window for some reason. I don't know what the discord spaces that were created look like right now, but they are likely no threat of "replacing" AAm. I've repeated myself enough on this topic.
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but none of them replace AA’s purpose!
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