What is everyone's feeling about this?

[wildfire]

Originally Posted by Criss_pl

And btw. name of your attached picture-baba is in Polish a pejorative augmentative (sometimes insulting) of word woman ("kobieta" in Polish)

Hmmm. that was the name of the photo at the source.... dunno what the real meaning may be....

coould be worse, they could mean the russian meaning... as in the witch baba-yaga... who lores children into her house with the chicken legs and eats them!


maybe someone misspelled "babe"...

[Scruffydog777]

Originally Posted by C-4

I have read a lot of people's postings about being let down, feeling poorly due to the unfortunate end-of-year events which have taken place in Alizée's universe last year, et. al.

As of yet, nothing definite has been stated by Alizée, or her new management, so everything hypothisized about what has actually happened is still not founded in absolutes, that I am aware of, aside from her having cancelled her October concert, and having attended the awards ceremony in Mexico.

It is my personal feeling that I still support Alizée and will not pass judgement on anything not founded in facts that might transpire this year until they are made available for her fans.

I am and have continued to vote for Alizée on Radio Atlantis and for the haircut contest running currently.

I have noticed however, that she has fallen off in the voting on Radio Atlantis and I wonder if it is because some of her fan base has lost interest in her.

It would be nice to show her that there are those of us who still care about her standings, even though Radio Atlantis does not mean too much since it is more of a paid voting system and a way for them to make money. Still if there is no other voting contest going on at this time, or in the future that she may be a part of, why shouldn't we back her up?

She is still my favorite singer, and I haven't lost my feelings for how she makes me feel, which many others here have also felt at one time about her.

How do you all feel at this time about her?

I've read a lot of posts in here and other forums. Heard the frustration of so many fans wanting to hear any kind of news from her. Hearing rumors of some kind of release on this date, then that date, only to be followed by bitter disappointment. Seeing fans turning their frustration into anger. I and I'm sure many others have thought why can't they come out with some short release saying "new album not to be released until sometime after the first of the year". Is that asking too much. Doesn't she keep in touch with the forums and know what we're going through?

But the bottom line is, we don't know what's going on in her mind, whether she doesn't care about us, whether as we've heard that she's kind of superstitious about jinxing things if she speaks about it, whether she's getting advice from her managers or the record companies not to say anything and because I don't know the real reason, I will sit and wait as long as it takes. Only one other woman in my life has brought as much enjoyment into my life as she has. I owe her big time,so I will always give her the benefit of the doubt.

When this album comes out, I'll give my honest opinion of it as I did with Psych. If it sucks I will be the first to say so, because I think that is the way it should be.

Although I think her breaking away from MF and LB was a huge mistake ( I think all three were equally responsible for Alizée's success), songs like PLP, La javanaise, Il jouait du piano debout, L'important C'est D'aimer, La Isla Bonita,Ella Ella, Rockcollection, prove she doesn't need them to have a successful careeer. So I'll wait as long as it takes for this new album to be released and will remain optimistic that it will be a good one.

Originally Posted by wildfire

just be careful what you wish for... as you can see, Alizée likes to experiment with her hair during her time off...

I hope it's not along the lines of what Christina Aguilera did. I'm sure it would look cute, but I also think it would be a distraction from all the natural beauty she has. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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[TheBarrett]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

Is that asking too much. Doesn't she keep in touch with the forums and know what we're going through?

No, and no.

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

When this album comes out, I'll give my honest opinion of it as I did with Psych. If it sucks I will the first to say so, because I think that is the way it should be.

To be honest, you're one of the most unbiased people ever, and I hugely respect that.

[rcs]

Her silence is so loud, it's deafening. Only the diehards hunker down and wait.

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by TheBarrett

No, and no.

Actually that's no and yes. She follows Lilly Town (French language forum) on Twitter. When she did the chat thingy, she displayed considerable knowledge of the posters on the old AFC forum (now Lilly Town). Although for linguistic reasons she's probably more familiar with that forum than this one or the Mexican forums it is beyond credibility that she would never browse here.

She might even post on Lilly Town, although if she does I haven't figured out her ID yet. (Not that I'd tell you guys if I had.)

She is not oblivious to what her fans think of her. I'm not at all sure why she is doing such a poor job of communicating, but it's not that. If I had to guess, I would say that she's just a very private, shy person who needs to work on that and open up more, keeping a distinction between her personal and her professional selves, but sharing the latter better with her community. Or of course it could be that the record company is telling her to shut up, in which case it's not her fault and a plague upon J/E.

[TheBarrett]

Originally Posted by Deepwaters

Actually that's no and yes. She follows Lilly Town (French language forum) on Twitter. When she did the chat thingy, she displayed considerable knowledge of the posters on the old AFC forum (now Lilly Town). Although for linguistic reasons she's probably more familiar with that forum than this one or the Mexican forums it is beyond credibility that she would never browse here.

She might even post on Lilly Town, although if she does I haven't figured out her ID yet. (Not that I'd tell you guys if I had.)

She is not oblivious to what her fans think of her. I'm not at all sure why she is doing such a poor job of communicating, but it's not that. If I had to guess, I would say that she's just a very private, shy person who needs to work on that and open up more, keeping a distinction between her personal and her professional selves, but sharing the latter better with her community. Or of course it could be that the record company is telling her to shut up, in which case it's not her fault and a plague upon J/E.

I'm to assume the worst.
I'm thinking her actual care for the archetypal musician's life is little to none.
There's a line to be drawn between privacy and downright neglect. Judging from the semi-stalkerish fans that plague here, there, and everywhere, yet they are still keen on letting her have her privacy, she shouldn't have a problem with that.

I doubt any record company would want their artist to remain in solitude and silence. They want the money, so they want the promotions, they want activity, it's the business.
Personally I may have reason to believe her label may even hate her because she's the exact antithesis of good business, but business is business, and I doubt they can refuse her.
Her lack of promotions, secrecy (the ideal of privacy has been crossed), and output of compulsive date switches, stylistic alterations, and lack of any decent solid base in which to truly establish a strengthened fanbase in is her biggest exposed weakness. If I had the mind of her label's owners, I would fire her, her presence would be sort of a stain in revenue.

From this I can draw conclusions, that it's either her or her husband that's pulling the strings.
Judging from the mutual relationship of the two I am sure J-boy's not the dominant one. He's not as 'popular' and he's relatively submissive when his wife wanted him to write songs for her.
So in this case I can say that it's all weighed on this "private woman", she's passively lighting her fanbase on fire.
Looking at two possible outcomes, if she decides to speak out more, the record company would deem it as promotion, appeal to the masses, building pathos in the infernal fanbase, and they would be the last to prohibit it. With promotion comes sales, with sales, comes their paychecks.
I also sincerely doubt Mr. Chatelain's going to stop her from bringing in decent cash to the household, in fact it's a no-brainer he's probably the only one keeping her in the business...

[pepelepew]

The rumors, speculations, expressions of frustration from fans are frustrating themselves. All of this is helpful to keep the juices flowing so to speak. I have never been very good @ small talk unless it is the humorous variety. I enjoy hearing the fans musings, because these fan sights would die if left up to me during these long Alizee intermissions. It is in my nature to avoid borrowing trouble when little or no facts are present on a particular issue such as what is going on with Alizee and the new album in particular. Alizee's fan base is so small and spread out that she probably is more focused on making a big splash than taking care of her current fans that she has already won over. From a commercial perspective she as well as her fans know that this is probably make or break for her career as a pop success. I know this is just another speculation without all the facts. The fact is that Alizee has never been a great communicator with her fans especially between albums. It just appears the normal plight for an Alizee fan. Alizee is the first and probably the last pop artist that I have given a flying crap about their welfare or impatient with their next album release. Though I can vent frustration with her like the best of them I still in the end support her unconditionally. I know i am not alone in this world of Alizee fandom. Though not perfect this is the best fan site out there in my opinion.

Originally Posted by TheBarrett

I'm to assume the worst.
I'm thinking her actual care for the archetypal musician's life is little to none.
There's a line to be drawn between privacy and downright neglect. Judging from the semi-stalkerish fans that plague here, there, and everywhere, yet they are still keen on letting her have her privacy, she shouldn't have a problem with that.

I doubt any record company would want their artist to remain in solitude and silence. They want the money, so they want the promotions, they want activity, it's the business.
Personally I may have reason to believe her label may even hate her because she's the exact antithesis of good business, but business is business, and I doubt they can refuse her.
Her lack of promotions, secrecy (the ideal of privacy has been crossed), and output of compulsive date switches, stylistic alterations, and lack of any decent solid base in which to truly establish a strengthened fanbase in is her biggest exposed weakness. If I had the mind of her label's owners, I would fire her, her presence would be sort of a stain in revenue.

From this I can draw conclusions, that it's either her or her husband that's pulling the strings.
Judging from the mutual relationship of the two I am sure J-boy's not the dominant one. He's not as 'popular' and he's relatively submissive when his wife wanted him to write songs for her.
So in this case I can say that it's all weighed on this "private woman", she's passively lighting her fanbase on fire.
Looking at two possible outcomes, if she decides to speak out more, the record company would deem it as promotion, appeal to the masses, building pathos in the infernal fanbase, and they would be the last to prohibit it. With promotion comes sales, with sales, comes their paychecks.
I also sincerely doubt Mr. Chatelain's going to stop her from bringing in decent cash to the household, in fact it's a no-brainer he's probably the only one keeping her in the business...

You know Mr. Barrett that this has been Alizee's MO from the beginning. With Mylene there was lots criticism regarding very limited interviews and or exposure. It didn't stop her success then and she learned it from Mylene. I am in agreement that it was a wrong strategy then and especially now. Between you and me I wouldn't be surprised if there never is another album released. again speculation on my part, but the silence is deafening as another fan stated. Or it is the strategy I spoke of in my last post. I would think that someone would be drumming up excitement at least with the existing fans now if there was any plans to release a single any time soon. Again I'm hoping for the big splash strategy as I spoke of in my last post.

[jung_adore_ALIZEE]

Originally Posted by Deepwaters

Actually that's no and yes.

How about a no and kinda sorta somewhat, but not really.

Oh, she doesn't post or even have an account on LillyTown BTW.

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by jung_adore_ALIZEE

Oh, she doesn't post or even have an account on LillyTown BTW.

How would you know this? You might be right, but all you need to log onto that forum is an email address, which can be created strictly for the purpose. I doubt that Julien shares information about his posters anyway (Ben certainly doesn't), but she could have an ID there without him knowing, let alone you. And if she did have one, I'm sure she wouldn't tell him. It would be SOP for her.

But I have no knowledge that she does, so that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that because she is very secretive and doesn't communicate much, it's easy to make the mistake of thinking that she's not paying attention. That is not true. She is very much aware of what's going on in her fan community. She misses very little. Whether she posts there or not, she does read it. And at times she reads this forum, too.

I think that Pepelepew is partially right about the reason for her reticence, but that it's also part of her nature. She's not entirely comfortable being in the public eye. She's introverted and shy. Introverts are always being misunderstood by extraverts who think we don't care. That's not true. She does care. She just isn't always very good at showing it.

I really think this is something she needs to work on.