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Marilyn Monroe.
aaah, right, she was copying her in her career's start...seems like almost everybody has their idols...
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she was copying her in her career's start...seems like almost everybody has their idols...
Ok, so you've already known that.
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Ok, so you've already known that.
yeah i knew, just forgot that.
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Madonna, like a lot of people in her generation, is on a crusade, in her case to shatter sexual hypocrisy and at the same time promote a kind of sexual spirituality. I very much doubt that will ever be Alizée's thing, and I can't see her deep-kissing Madonna (or anyone else for that matter, male or female) on stage, because it's hardly her style, but we don't really know what Madonna is like in private or what it's like to hang out with her.

She's VERY intelligent, talented, and creative. I think she'd be a lot of fun to talk to, and could provide a lot of useful help to any performer. There's no particular reason why Alizée should avoid her, as long as she doesn't mesh with Madonna's PUBLIC self. And I can't see her ever doing that.
And thats exactly what i think! so they should perform together, but Alizée wont become Madonna as we should very well know
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i don't like Madonna to tell the truth her recent Cd i listened to at a friends well the practically sounded the same just different lyrics Madonna is not my first choice of singer to listen ot and truthfully i hope Alizee does not become Madonna
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truthfully i hope Alizee does not become Madonna
Worry not... Alizée wont become someone else, she will always be herself
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Worry not... Alizée wont become someone else, she will always be herself
And unless my understanding is off . . . more herself than ever!

I just feel I should put in a good word for Madonna, though. Just as a lot of people seem to see Alizée perform and pigeonhole her as "sexy French bonbon" without looking deeper, Madonna also is misunderstood a lot.

Take the song "Material Girl" for instance. How many people, back when that song came out, took it on a surface level and totally missed the irony? How many people heard the song as calling for a crass, materialistic approach to life (instead of the exact opposite, which was true)? How many feminists got up in arms about the line "'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash is always Mr. Right," and didn't see just how scathing that, and in fact the whole song, was toward women who thought that way?

Madonna has always been very sexual in her music, dancing, and performance, usually a lot more blatantly so than Alizée, because that was a part of what she was communicating: sexuality that broke taboos. She has also, very often, been very spiritual. A lot of her music has a religious theme. The song of hers that does the best job of blending those two currents is, in my opinion, "Like a Prayer." And I also consider it the best song she ever wrote. It throbs with both the spirituality of sex, and the sensuality of the spirit. It's incredibly powerful.

If you start out with a somewhat puritanical view, Madonna will offend. But if you can get past that, the brilliance and depth become very impressive. I can understand why Alizée would admire Madonna and be a fan of hers. Although Alizée shouldn't pattern herself after Madonna, that isn't saying there's anything WRONG with Madonna, only that they are two very different people and Alizée has her own type of splendor. She shouldn't pattern herself after Madonna for the same reason she shouldn't pattern herself after Mylène. I'm sure she'll never do the one, and will no longer do the other.

But Madonna's awesome. Don't diss the High Priestess.
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And unless my understanding is off . . . more herself than ever!

I just feel I should put in a good word for Madonna, though. Just as a lot of people seem to see Alizée perform and pigeonhole her as "sexy French bonbon" without looking deeper, Madonna also is misunderstood a lot.

Take the song "Material Girl" for instance. How many people, back when that song came out, took it on a surface level and totally missed the irony? How many people heard the song as calling for a crass, materialistic approach to life (instead of the exact opposite, which was true)? How many feminists got up in arms about the line "'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash is always Mr. Right," and didn't see just how scathing that, and in fact the whole song, was toward women who thought that way?

Madonna has always been very sexual in her music, dancing, and performance, usually a lot more blatantly so than Alizée, because that was a part of what she was communicating: sexuality that broke taboos. She has also, very often, been very spiritual. A lot of her music has a religious theme. The song of hers that does the best job of blending those two currents is, in my opinion, "Like a Prayer." And I also consider it the best song she ever wrote. It throbs with both the spirituality of sex, and the sensuality of the spirit. It's incredibly powerful.

If you start out with a somewhat puritanical view, Madonna will offend. But if you can get past that, the brilliance and depth become very impressive. I can understand why Alizée would admire Madonna and be a fan of hers. Although Alizée shouldn't pattern herself after Madonna, that isn't saying there's anything WRONG with Madonna, only that they are two very different people and Alizée has her own type of splendor. She shouldn't pattern herself after Madonna for the same reason she shouldn't pattern herself after Mylène. I'm sure she'll never do the one, and will no longer do the other.

But Madonna's awesome. Don't diss the High Priestess.
you have a point deep but then i have never really like pop music as i said before and madonna was a singer that i would listen to if i were younger just not what i listen to now especially with all the metal music i listen to and it's true people see Alizee as eye candy just well she appeals to me more with her songs than looks and well so i see what your saying just i prefer Alizee more than Alizee.
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Yes, agreed Deepwaters, i like madonna as well, altough i rarely listen to her music, but i agree that she is often a victim of misconception
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