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Old 12-09-2011, 08:53 PM
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Ahem, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#V_sign_as_an_insult

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The insulting version of the gesture (with the palm inwards) is often compared to the offensive gesture known as "the finger". The "two-fingered salute", also known as "The Longbowman Salute", "the two" and as "The Tongs" in the West of Scotland and "the forks" in Australia,[6] is commonly performed by flicking the V upwards from wrist or elbow. The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England,[7] and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; though the use of the inward peace sign as an insulting gesture is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand.[1] It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt, or derision.[8]
As an example of the V sign (palm inward) as an insult, on November 1, 1990, The Sun, a British tabloid, ran an article on its front page with the headline "Up Yours, Delors" next to a large hand making a V sign protruding from a Union flag cuff. The Sun urged its readers to stick two fingers up at then President of the European Commission Jacques Delors, who had advocated an EU central government. The article attracted a number of complaints about its alleged racism, but the now defunct Press Council rejected the complaints after the editor of The Sun stated that the paper reserved the right to use vulgar abuse in the interests of Britain.[9][10]
For a time in the UK, "a Harvey (Smith)" became a way of describing the insulting version of the V sign, much as "the word of Cambronne" is used in France, or "the Trudeau salute" is used to describe the one-fingered salute in Canada. This happened because, in 1971, show-jumper Harvey Smith was disqualified for making a televised V sign to the judges after winning the British Show Jumping Derby at Hickstead. (His win was reinstated two days later.)[11]
Harvey Smith pleaded that he was simply using a Victory sign, a defence also used by other figures in the public eye.[12] Sometimes foreigners visiting the countries mentioned above use the "two-fingered salute" without knowing it is offensive to the natives, for example when ordering two beers in a noisy pub, or in the case of the United States president George H. W. Bush, who, while touring Australia in 1992, attempted to give a "peace sign" to a group of farmers in Canberra—who were protesting about U.S. farm subsidies—and instead gave the insulting V sign.[13]
Also, in the opening credits for a number of seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Spike, who is British, is shown using the V sign as an insult to Xander Harris in a scene from the episode Hush.
On April 3, 2009, Scottish football players Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor were permanently banned from the Scottish national squad for showing the V sign while sitting on the bench during the game against Iceland. Both players were in their hotel bar drinking alcohol after the Scottish defeat to Holland until around 11*am the next morning, meaning that both of the players breached the SFA discipline code before the incident as well, but the attitude shown by the V sign was considered to be so rude that the SFA decided never to include these players in the national line-up again.[14][15] Ferguson also lost the captaincy of Rangers as a result of the controversy.[16]
Steve McQueen the late American actor gives a British (knuckles outward) V sign in the closing scene in 1970s motorsport movie 'Le Mans'. A still picture of the gesture was also recorded by photographer Nigel Snowdon and has become an iconic image of both McQueen and the 24 hours of Le Mans.
Eric Young a TV news anchor in New Zealand was accidentally broadcast flashing the V sign to a producer off screen after a report on a Rugby match between Auckland and Counties Manukau.[17][18]
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She does it because she likes the raps and the hips and the hops.

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I think it's a secret message. Her new album will have a second Gourmandises song. It will have an awesome beat, just like the first one and become a sensation around the world.

The title will be: "Gourmandises 2012: Eat The Sweets" The video will be HOT.
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:35 AM
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Yeah, I think thats only a Dick Move™ in British nations.
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I don't get it...I thought all European countries did away with the whole "Don't show the Vickies!" thing, whatever it even means!
I know the "longhorn" sign (just like in Texas College or university) is considered offesinve in Italy. Not sure about the rest of Europe.
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Yep, it accuses the person's wife of being unfaithful if pointed at them.

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In Italy, pointing the index and little finger at someone is a common curse as well as an accusation of having an unfaithful wife. With fingers down, it is a common apotropaic gesture instead, by which superstitious people seek protection in unlucky situations (something like touching wood).
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For this picture I noticed we tweeted back something about Hot Chocolate.



Is it? I thought it was coffee...

Also, what is Alizée trying to say about the spoon?
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Yep, it accuses the person's wife of being unfaithful if pointed at them.
If you look at the picture you'll see that Alizée is pointing with the first two fingers, not the first and pinkie. She often does the latter, not pointing AT anyone, but as a sign against evil, something often done by practitioners of certain occult schools in Italy and Corsica (I'm sure she wasn't accusing anyone of being a cuckold on those occasions). However, this is something different.

Although I could easily be wrong, I think it was giving the impression that she was magically summoning the cotton candy into her mouth. Or something like that.
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Anyone else notice she is following nearly every major Alizée fan site...except ours?
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